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Naoya Inoue is known as Japan's Bruce Lee for a reason.

A true martial arts fanatic. He is crazy about boxing and knows all the intricacies of this martial art. I really like his fighting style. He throws most of his punches with his front hand. The fist moves along a minimal trajectory, and the enemy is forced to constantly be on the defensive.

Naoya is an absolutely unpredictable boxer. He constantly changes his fighting style, and this terrifies all his opponents. But they do not have time to really get scared (because they get a terrible blow to the body and they no longer have time to feel fear).

It will be very difficult for Butler to box with such a strong opponent.

Not just in Japan alone, he is also the Bruce Lee in the boxing industry with monstrous strength that by far, only Nonito Donaire have managed to put him on edge but then he keeps on evolving as time goes by and have managed to master both offense and defense. So, that makes him more unpredictable aside from constant changes in his fighting style, and that scares his future foes because they will need to make an expensive mistake just to figure out Inoue's style and weakness. By that time that they know, Inoue already defeated them, that's how terrifying this monster is. I bet the champions in the super-bantam are already worried because they are about to face a tough challenger.

Yes, after that experienced against the Pinoy flash he evolves a lot and continue in enhancing his skills,
the IQ that he has makes him more unpredictable.

He can adjust while fighting something that his opponent will be hard to box him, with his strong combination and the perfect
timing of his speed Butler's chance of winning is too slim.

We are just waiting for the date and for Inoue to complete his chase in holding all the belts in his division.

Inoue made Donaire as a motivation to mature and develop his skills to become much stronger in his next fights because the aging Donaire managed to push him in corner, so he thinks that he should improve because he cannot cement his legacy if he'll be predictable.

Now, as we saw him in his recent fight, he's already different and much agile than he is before. Even the Flash cannot predict nor read his movements and only knew the attack the moment he already suffered it. Anyway, the fight is nearing its schedule, I'm just excited on Inoue's post-fight statements regarding his move.

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However, it seems Bob Arum won't allow his Inoue to face the champions right away and for me, that would also be a nice move once he moved up. There's no need to rush for a title match right away although I really badly want to see Inoue facing Fulton or Akhmadaliev in a title match someday.

That's not really far from happening once Inoue climbs the next weight class and that might be the closest case because Bob Arum is known to take a less risky path for his fighters while milking them at the same time for challenging a much easier opponent. I assume that Bob Arum will let Inoue to face either Fulton or Akhmadaliev after 2 non-title fights, with win of course.

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Naoya Inoue is known as Japan's Bruce Lee for a reason.

A true martial arts fanatic. He is crazy about boxing and knows all the intricacies of this martial art. I really like his fighting style. He throws most of his punches with his front hand. The fist moves along a minimal trajectory, and the enemy is forced to constantly be on the defensive.

Naoya is an absolutely unpredictable boxer. He constantly changes his fighting style, and this terrifies all his opponents. But they do not have time to really get scared (because they get a terrible blow to the body and they no longer have time to feel fear).

It will be very difficult for Butler to box with such a strong opponent.

Not just in Japan alone, he is also the Bruce Lee in the boxing industry with monstrous strength that by far, only Nonito Donaire have managed to put him on edge but then he keeps on evolving as time goes by and have managed to master both offense and defense. So, that makes him more unpredictable aside from constant changes in his fighting style, and that scares his future foes because they will need to make an expensive mistake just to figure out Inoue's style and weakness. By that time that they know, Inoue already defeated them, that's how terrifying this monster is. I bet the champions in the super-bantam are already worried because they are about to face a tough challenger.

Yes, after that experienced against the Pinoy flash he evolves a lot and continue in enhancing his skills,
the IQ that he has makes him more unpredictable.

He can adjust while fighting something that his opponent will be hard to box him, with his strong combination and the perfect
timing of his speed Butler's chance of winning is too slim.

We are just waiting for the date and for Inoue to complete his chase in holding all the belts in his division.

That made him better, he is more precise in the rematch and they really made a good game plan to hurt Donaire. Inoue is faster and smarter than his opponent, so he will likely dominate the fight and I'm not seeing Butler would have a big upset win here.

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Naoya Inoue is known as Japan's Bruce Lee for a reason.

A true martial arts fanatic. He is crazy about boxing and knows all the intricacies of this martial art. I really like his fighting style. He throws most of his punches with his front hand. The fist moves along a minimal trajectory, and the enemy is forced to constantly be on the defensive.

Naoya is an absolutely unpredictable boxer. He constantly changes his fighting style, and this terrifies all his opponents. But they do not have time to really get scared (because they get a terrible blow to the body and they no longer have time to feel fear).

It will be very difficult for Butler to box with such a strong opponent.

Not just in Japan alone, he is also the Bruce Lee in the boxing industry with monstrous strength that by far, only Nonito Donaire have managed to put him on edge but then he keeps on evolving as time goes by and have managed to master both offense and defense. So, that makes him more unpredictable aside from constant changes in his fighting style, and that scares his future foes because they will need to make an expensive mistake just to figure out Inoue's style and weakness. By that time that they know, Inoue already defeated them, that's how terrifying this monster is. I bet the champions in the super-bantam are already worried because they are about to face a tough challenger.

Yes, after that experienced against the Pinoy flash he evolves a lot and continue in enhancing his skills,
the IQ that he has makes him more unpredictable.

He can adjust while fighting something that his opponent will be hard to box him, with his strong combination and the perfect
timing of his speed Butler's chance of winning is too slim.

We are just waiting for the date and for Inoue to complete his chase in holding all the belts in his division.

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Naoya Inoue is known as Japan's Bruce Lee for a reason.

Thanks for this info, not aware that he is known to be the Bruce Lee of Japan, but in any case, many martial arts and boxers idolizes Bruce even Manny Pacman.

Quote from: Smartprofit on November 15, 2022, 08:45:16 AM

Naoya is an absolutely unpredictable boxer. He constantly changes his fighting style, and this terrifies all his opponents. But they do not have time to really get scared (because they get a terrible blow to the body and they no longer have time to feel fear).

It will be very difficult for Butler to box with such a strong opponent.

I think it's more of him really improving, what's scary is that he is evolving and not reaching his prime years yet. Maybe in the next couple of years, we will see a version of Inoue like no other and it will be hard to defeat him.

This is an Eastern philosophy - an emphasis on self-improvement, and not on the result.

For an oriental athlete, the most important thing is the path of self-improvement. Naoya Inoue also follows this path of cultivation.

He chooses exceptionally strong opponents and successfully defeats them. At the same time, with each victory, he becomes stronger and stronger. His fighting style is often compared to that of the young Muhammad Ali.

He has excellent sports training. His first coach was his father (also an excellent boxer).

At the same time, he trained his son according to all the rules of Shaolin monk training (cross-country running, walking on his hands, swimming in icy water, balancing on a pole dug into the ground, as well as other very difficult exercises).

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Quote from: mirakal on November 15, 2022, 11:02:19 AM

I bet the champions in the super-bantam are already worried because they are about to face a tough challenger.

I believed that's not the case but the other way around. The current Super bantamweight title holders, Stephen Fulton and Murodjon c already show interest in fighting Naoya Inoue once he moved up in that division. Instead of being worried, these champions might be more hungry to beat Inoue as this challenger has a big and heavy status. Defeating Inoue will make these champions become more popular as they defeat the monster of Bantamweight even how dominant it is coming from a Bantamweight.

However, it seems Bob Arum won't allow his Inoue to face the champions right away and for me, that would also be a nice move once he moved up. There's no need to rush for a title match right away although I really badly want to see Inoue facing Fulton or Akhmadaliev in a title match someday.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on November 15, 2022, 08:45:16 AM

Naoya Inoue is known as Japan's Bruce Lee for a reason.

A true martial arts fanatic. He is crazy about boxing and knows all the intricacies of this martial art. I really like his fighting style. He throws most of his punches with his front hand. The fist moves along a minimal trajectory, and the enemy is forced to constantly be on the defensive.

Naoya is an absolutely unpredictable boxer. He constantly changes his fighting style, and this terrifies all his opponents. But they do not have time to really get scared (because they get a terrible blow to the body and they no longer have time to feel fear).

It will be very difficult for Butler to box with such a strong opponent.

Not just in Japan alone, he is also the Bruce Lee in the boxing industry with monstrous strength that by far, only Nonito Donaire have managed to put him on edge but then he keeps on evolving as time goes by and have managed to master both offense and defense. So, that makes him more unpredictable aside from constant changes in his fighting style, and that scares his future foes because they will need to make an expensive mistake just to figure out Inoue's style and weakness. By that time that they know, Inoue already defeated them, that's how terrifying this monster is. I bet the champions in the super-bantam are already worried because they are about to face a tough challenger.

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Yes if Bob arum handle Inoue Then he will know when to fight and also who will be the opponent of this monster like what bob arum did manny pacman to show up and now holding the one and only 8 division champ in the world. Then what do you think to inoue is he will overtake many or not?
As we can see that inoue nowadays is unstoppable in his division but when he will reach higher then he need to practice more speed than his opponent to control the fight.

Not impossible to take, but I think that Naoya Inoue already has the speed he needs, he out-speeds the flash, Nonito Donaire, in their 2nd bout, while in their 1st but he is having a hardtime with him and the fight goes the distance, for me he gained ultimate power and speed from his training while we can not say that Donaire isn't training and it upped his game, Naoya Inoue just double his ability the last time they fought, but for me, I can not compare Inoue with Ryan Garcia in terms of power and speed, because I think that we can not compare him to Ryan Garcia and because he only holds 3 belts in the same weight class, the WBC, WBA, and IBF, the only belt he doesn't have was the WBO where Paul Butler has it,

He out speed Nonito Donaire on their 2nd bout because Nonito is not that versatile and agile anymore compared to his younger years. There is a 3-year gap between their 1st and 2nd bout, given the Flash's age, it's clear that it will take a toll on his body while Inoue is approaching the height of his career and getting stronger inside that 3-year span.

And Inoue and Garcia isn't really that comparable because they aren't on the same division and they're are also different in-terms of what they attained in their careers. Garcia has yet to hold his own title, so he still have a lot to prove before that.

That statement is true Inoue is on his prime when the rematch take place while Donaire is already on the part of his last dance, though
he tries his chance, but the Monster dominated him and knock him down.

Nothing to say regarding to the comparison of Garcia and Inoue maybe if they will meet in the same division, we will be able to see
and the comparison will be valid.

For now, Inoue is on the mission in collecting more belts under his name, not far to achieved as he is the favorite here against Butler

Though, even if we know that, I still favored Donaire on their 2nd bout because I had that feeling that Donaire at his age, could still give a good fight with Inoue because we saw how close their fight on their 1st bout, but the unexpected happened as well as Donaire didn't expected that. It was evident that Inoue and Donaire's gap has gotten wider throughout those given year.

Speaking of Donaire, after his statement post-fight that he will still continue his career for a coupe of years, I expected that he will go down in 115 lbs. But that is not the case this time because after hearing Inoue's future plans, Donaire decided to stay in bantamweight and the WBC ordered a fight between him and Jason Moloney.

Bonaire and inoue brings us a good fight and we all know that through them many gamblers place their bet to the both of then because they see both popular in the world of boxing so without a doubt they get the attention of the fans in their first meet what we can see is a close fight but inoue will win and when the time they will face again each other in the ring then inoue shock the world he knock down donarie in themost middle of the end round and claim the victory.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on November 15, 2022, 08:45:16 AM

Naoya Inoue is known as Japan's Bruce Lee for a reason.

Thanks for this info, not aware that he is known to be the Bruce Lee of Japan, but in any case, many martial arts and boxers idolizes Bruce even Manny Pacman.

Quote from: Smartprofit on November 15, 2022, 08:45:16 AM

Naoya is an absolutely unpredictable boxer. He constantly changes his fighting style, and this terrifies all his opponents. But they do not have time to really get scared (because they get a terrible blow to the body and they no longer have time to feel fear).

It will be very difficult for Butler to box with such a strong opponent.

I think it's more of him really improving, what's scary is that he is evolving and not reaching his prime years yet. Maybe in the next couple of years, we will see a version of Inoue like no other and it will be hard to defeat him.

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Naoya Inoue is known as Japan's Bruce Lee for a reason.

A true martial arts fanatic. He is crazy about boxing and knows all the intricacies of this martial art. I really like his fighting style. He throws most of his punches with his front hand. The fist moves along a minimal trajectory, and the enemy is forced to constantly be on the defensive.

Naoya is an absolutely unpredictable boxer. He constantly changes his fighting style, and this terrifies all his opponents. But they do not have time to really get scared (because they get a terrible blow to the body and they no longer have time to feel fear).

It will be very difficult for Butler to box with such a strong opponent.

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Yes if Bob arum handle Inoue Then he will know when to fight and also who will be the opponent of this monster like what bob arum did manny pacman to show up and now holding the one and only 8 division champ in the world. Then what do you think to inoue is he will overtake many or not?
As we can see that inoue nowadays is unstoppable in his division but when he will reach higher then he need to practice more speed than his opponent to control the fight.

Not impossible to take, but I think that Naoya Inoue already has the speed he needs, he out-speeds the flash, Nonito Donaire, in their 2nd bout, while in their 1st but he is having a hardtime with him and the fight goes the distance, for me he gained ultimate power and speed from his training while we can not say that Donaire isn't training and it upped his game, Naoya Inoue just double his ability the last time they fought, but for me, I can not compare Inoue with Ryan Garcia in terms of power and speed, because I think that we can not compare him to Ryan Garcia and because he only holds 3 belts in the same weight class, the WBC, WBA, and IBF, the only belt he doesn't have was the WBO where Paul Butler has it,

He out speed Nonito Donaire on their 2nd bout because Nonito is not that versatile and agile anymore compared to his younger years. There is a 3-year gap between their 1st and 2nd bout, given the Flash's age, it's clear that it will take a toll on his body while Inoue is approaching the height of his career and getting stronger inside that 3-year span.

And Inoue and Garcia isn't really that comparable because they aren't on the same division and they're are also different in-terms of what they attained in their careers. Garcia has yet to hold his own title, so he still have a lot to prove before that.

That statement is true Inoue is on his prime when the rematch take place while Donaire is already on the part of his last dance, though
he tries his chance, but the Monster dominated him and knock him down.

Nothing to say regarding to the comparison of Garcia and Inoue maybe if they will meet in the same division, we will be able to see
and the comparison will be valid.

For now, Inoue is on the mission in collecting more belts under his name, not far to achieved as he is the favorite here against Butler

Though, even if we know that, I still favored Donaire on their 2nd bout because I had that feeling that Donaire at his age, could still give a good fight with Inoue because we saw how close their fight on their 1st bout, but the unexpected happened as well as Donaire didn't expected that. It was evident that Inoue and Donaire's gap has gotten wider throughout those given year.

Speaking of Donaire, after his statement post-fight that he will still continue his career for a coupe of years, I expected that he will go down in 115 lbs. But that is not the case this time because after hearing Inoue's future plans, Donaire decided to stay in bantamweight and the WBC ordered a fight between him and Jason Moloney.

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Yes, they are siblings, and usually Japanese and Filipino boxers have their sort of rivalry in Southeast Asia. So I'm not surprised that they are willing to test the other Inoue against a Filipino here. Unfortunately, Bornea is a relatively unknown. But who knows, he can pull a surprise here. He has nothing to lose and everything to gain if he fight everything against Takuma and upset him in his brother card. And yes, news is that after he unified and win against Butler, he will move up to super bantam.

With hard work and determination also excellent coaching from his brother, he will surely improve when he will gonna first fight some boxers that are not really strong or capable of giving him hard time inside the ring because when you have the right trainers and the right skills with you, there are really have enough rooms for improvement and when he will gonna fight a Filipino boxer, he is one step to be able to cross every hard storm in his next fights and after a year or two without tasting any single lost, he will be given an opportunity to fight for a championship.

Yes, but it's different body and personality, you will have the best comparison, Manny and Bobby Pacquiao. It was Bobby who was in boxing early that Manny, but it was the younger Manny who become the best boxer of our generation. So it might be that they have the same last name. But it doesn't mean that they will have the same path in greatness in boxing. I will say that Naoya is much better than Takuma.

Naoya shows more huge potential than his brother so there's no question who is more stronger than them if there's comparison between them. But for sure there wasn't because both of them are sharing some good success between of there careers. But for now the name of Naoya is more dominating the scene because recently he show tremendous power and defeat some big names in the scene. Maybe in future we can see Naoya surpass the record of Pacquao or even Mayweather if he's still consistent with his records then will not record a serious injury.

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Yes, they are siblings, and usually Japanese and Filipino boxers have their sort of rivalry in Southeast Asia. So I'm not surprised that they are willing to test the other Inoue against a Filipino here. Unfortunately, Bornea is a relatively unknown. But who knows, he can pull a surprise here. He has nothing to lose and everything to gain if he fight everything against Takuma and upset him in his brother card. And yes, news is that after he unified and win against Butler, he will move up to super bantam.

With hard work and determination also excellent coaching from his brother, he will surely improve when he will gonna first fight some boxers that are not really strong or capable of giving him hard time inside the ring because when you have the right trainers and the right skills with you, there are really have enough rooms for improvement and when he will gonna fight a Filipino boxer, he is one step to be able to cross every hard storm in his next fights and after a year or two without tasting any single lost, he will be given an opportunity to fight for a championship.

With the right sets of skills and IQ and with the right camp to train you, the chance of improving yourself from each fight you take
is very possible.

He got that advantage as he already has a someone who can help him in keep improving his
skills. If he really wanted to pursue his career from this same sport with his brother, then he needs
to work hard, the expectation that accompany in his name is very tough, he needs to be prepared
both physical and mental to achieved his goal.

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Yes, they are siblings, and usually Japanese and Filipino boxers have their sort of rivalry in Southeast Asia. So I'm not surprised that they are willing to test the other Inoue against a Filipino here. Unfortunately, Bornea is a relatively unknown. But who knows, he can pull a surprise here. He has nothing to lose and everything to gain if he fight everything against Takuma and upset him in his brother card. And yes, news is that after he unified and win against Butler, he will move up to super bantam.

With hard work and determination also excellent coaching from his brother, he will surely improve when he will gonna first fight some boxers that are not really strong or capable of giving him hard time inside the ring because when you have the right trainers and the right skills with you, there are really have enough rooms for improvement and when he will gonna fight a Filipino boxer, he is one step to be able to cross every hard storm in his next fights and after a year or two without tasting any single lost, he will be given an opportunity to fight for a championship.

Yes, but it's different body and personality, you will have the best comparison, Manny and Bobby Pacquiao. It was Bobby who was in boxing early that Manny, but it was the younger Manny who become the best boxer of our generation. So it might be that they have the same last name. But it doesn't mean that they will have the same path in greatness in boxing. I will say that Naoya is much better than Takuma.

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 14, 2022, 04:44:39 AM

Yes, they are siblings, and usually Japanese and Filipino boxers have their sort of rivalry in Southeast Asia. So I'm not surprised that they are willing to test the other Inoue against a Filipino here. Unfortunately, Bornea is a relatively unknown. But who knows, he can pull a surprise here. He has nothing to lose and everything to gain if he fight everything against Takuma and upset him in his brother card. And yes, news is that after he unified and win against Butler, he will move up to super bantam.

With hard work and determination also excellent coaching from his brother, he will surely improve when he will gonna first fight some boxers that are not really strong or capable of giving him hard time inside the ring because when you have the right trainers and the right skills with you, there are really have enough rooms for improvement and when he will gonna fight a Filipino boxer, he is one step to be able to cross every hard storm in his next fights and after a year or two without tasting any single lost, he will be given an opportunity to fight for a championship.

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Butler's fate is not yet determined and yes, of course most people and bettors will side on Inoue because it's just too hard to go against him, but Butler himself will be the one who will dictate his own outcome. Surely, he wouldn't win if he will avoid Inoue always and I bet his camp wouldn't recommend that move too. Still the best thing he could do is to face Inoue head-to-head and toe-to-toe.

the fight will be in japan and the japanese see Inoue as their idol, Inoue will have many supporters and he is a guy who is in better conditions to win this fight and Paul Butler despite being a good fighter who is coming from a good performance, he is 33 years old and that is also another disadvantage for him, his stamina is probably less than a 29 year old guy and his statements don't inspire confidence in me either, but he said he has been going to bed dreaming of becoming champion . It will be a very difficult fight for him and I will bet on Inoue to win this fight

inoue is very superior in front of his fans,, if butler can't deal with that much pressure then he won't last more than 2 rounds. So far butler has been full of luck,, even the WBO world title has been won for free lol. I know my 50:50 prediction is very controversial but it's only a small prediction because butler looks very sure about this fight Grin

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Quote from: Slow death on November 14, 2022, 09:03:24 AM

the fight will be in japan and the japanese see Inoue as their idol, Inoue will have many supporters and he is a guy who is in better conditions to win this fight and Paul Butler despite being a good fighter who is coming from a good performance, he is 33 years old and that is also another disadvantage for him, his stamina is probably less than a 29 year old guy and his statements don't inspire confidence in me either, but he said he has been going to bed dreaming of becoming champion . It will be a very difficult fight for him and I will bet on Inoue to win this fight

In other words, Naoya Inoue has every advantage in this fight starting from the venue, fans, skills, power, and many more to mention. With those advantages, I can't see how Paul Butler can't even match Inoue at any point. Moreover, it will be the biggest break for Paul Butler's career that he even thinks he will still have a chance to fight in a unification fight knowing champions in the bantamweight division are all tough for him (Donaire, Inoue, Casimero).

Butler got this big break that's why regardless of the odds and how strong Inoue is, he should be aggressive no matter what.

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Yes if Bob arum handle Inoue Then he will know when to fight and also who will be the opponent of this monster like what bob arum did manny pacman to show up and now holding the one and only 8 division champ in the world. Then what do you think to inoue is he will overtake many or not?
As we can see that inoue nowadays is unstoppable in his division but when he will reach higher then he need to practice more speed than his opponent to control the fight.

Not impossible to take, but I think that Naoya Inoue already has the speed he needs, he out-speeds the flash, Nonito Donaire, in their 2nd bout, while in their 1st but he is having a hardtime with him and the fight goes the distance, for me he gained ultimate power and speed from his training while we can not say that Donaire isn't training and it upped his game, Naoya Inoue just double his ability the last time they fought, but for me, I can not compare Inoue with Ryan Garcia in terms of power and speed, because I think that we can not compare him to Ryan Garcia and because he only holds 3 belts in the same weight class, the WBC, WBA, and IBF, the only belt he doesn't have was the WBO where Paul Butler has it,

He out speed Nonito Donaire on their 2nd bout because Nonito is not that versatile and agile anymore compared to his younger years. There is a 3-year gap between their 1st and 2nd bout, given the Flash's age, it's clear that it will take a toll on his body while Inoue is approaching the height of his career and getting stronger inside that 3-year span.

And Inoue and Garcia isn't really that comparable because they aren't on the same division and they're are also different in-terms of what they attained in their careers. Garcia has yet to hold his own title, so he still have a lot to prove before that.

That statement is true Inoue is on his prime when the rematch take place while Donaire is already on the part of his last dance, though
he tries his chance, but the Monster dominated him and knock him down.

Nothing to say regarding to the comparison of Garcia and Inoue maybe if they will meet in the same division, we will be able to see
and the comparison will be valid.

For now, Inoue is on the mission in collecting more belts under his name, not far to achieved as he is the favorite here against Butler

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I think otherwise though, I'm seeing Butler really trying to get on Inoue's skin by going toe to toe and see who is going to stand up in the end. I know that this is not supposed to be Butler plan, but seeing how the odds are, there's nothing for him in this fight but to proved that he can go with Inoue and take his shot. If he lost by knock out, then it is what it is. Instead of just trying to defend himself in the first couple of rounds. Inoue will not be tired of chasing him, so he should man enough to face his fears and accept what will be the consequence in the end. And it could throw Inoue off if suddenly Butler will be the aggressive in the beginning.

butler and inoue have a 50:50 chance to win in this fight. but Inoue will fight hard to win at home, when facing Donaire, many doubt Inoue will win but the reality is different. currently, Inoue already holds 3 belts in the bantamweight and has strong ambitions to snatch the WBO belt from butler, hopefully, Inoue doesn't have bad luck in this fight.

50:50 I don't think so inoue already encounter a lot of good, tough fighter and as we all know that in our can't win because of experience or any reason but when the time has come and they face in the ring all we can saw is the monster it means inoue release his monster skills to defeat tougher opponent which I see in this fight that in our can win the match even though he can't knock down but for sure via unanimous decision he will win.

A 50:50 chance is a bit overstatement to Paul Butler because his real chances are not that good and only slim, and I certainly don't think that Butler here can give Inoue a hard time in defeating him as the difference of their strength and power are wide enough to know that Inoue have the higher hand. The bookies won't list Butler with a very tasty odds if he does have a decent chance against Inoue.

Yes, we can't consider this a 50/50 fight. It's not about Inoue, it's about what Paul Butler can offer in this fight. Yes he won against a replacement fighter and become a champion, but I don't think that he has the tools to beat a version of the Monster right now. He needs to have a knock out power, and unfortunately, he doesn't possessed it. So most probably as I have said, he will go likely toe to toe and try to get that one prayer shot that if he caught Inoue, and Naoya wasn't expecting it, then maybe that is the slim chance that is looking for in this fight.

Butler's fate is not yet determined and yes, of course most people and bettors will side on Inoue because it's just too hard to go against him, but Butler himself will be the one who will dictate his own outcome. Surely, he wouldn't win if he will avoid Inoue always and I bet his camp wouldn't recommend that move too. Still the best thing he could do is to face Inoue head-to-head and toe-to-toe.

the fight will be in japan and the japanese see Inoue as their idol, Inoue will have many supporters and he is a guy who is in better conditions to win this fight and Paul Butler despite being a good fighter who is coming from a good performance, he is 33 years old and that is also another disadvantage for him, his stamina is probably less than a 29 year old guy and his statements don't inspire confidence in me either, but he said he has been going to bed dreaming of becoming champion . It will be a very difficult fight for him and I will bet on Inoue to win this fight

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Yes if Bob arum handle Inoue Then he will know when to fight and also who will be the opponent of this monster like what bob arum did manny pacman to show up and now holding the one and only 8 division champ in the world. Then what do you think to inoue is he will overtake many or not?
As we can see that inoue nowadays is unstoppable in his division but when he will reach higher then he need to practice more speed than his opponent to control the fight.

Not impossible to take, but I think that Naoya Inoue already has the speed he needs, he out-speeds the flash, Nonito Donaire, in their 2nd bout, while in their 1st but he is having a hardtime with him and the fight goes the distance, for me he gained ultimate power and speed from his training while we can not say that Donaire isn't training and it upped his game, Naoya Inoue just double his ability the last time they fought, but for me, I can not compare Inoue with Ryan Garcia in terms of power and speed, because I think that we can not compare him to Ryan Garcia and because he only holds 3 belts in the same weight class, the WBC, WBA, and IBF, the only belt he doesn't have was the WBO where Paul Butler has it,

He out speed Nonito Donaire on their 2nd bout because Nonito is not that versatile and agile anymore compared to his younger years. There is a 3-year gap between their 1st and 2nd bout, given the Flash's age, it's clear that it will take a toll on his body while Inoue is approaching the height of his career and getting stronger inside that 3-year span.

And Inoue and Garcia isn't really that comparable because they aren't on the same division and they're are also different in-terms of what they attained in their careers. Garcia has yet to hold his own title, so he still have a lot to prove before that.

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