Topic: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13 - page 15. (Read 16002 times)

There's nothing wrong on betting for Butler to win, it's just like you are betting in a lottery, and who knows, this is boxing, anyone can win and upset does happen sometimes. Butler is also a champion, unfortunately people see him as inferior than Inoue, so bookies are just doing their job.

I agree with you . Those who bet on Butler are either greedy for high returns or they don't understand boxing very enough .However, there are many exceptions in the game, so there is no 100% guarantee that Paul will win. But his chances of winning are very high.  And those who watch his fighting will definitely back Paul and not decide to bet against Paul. I myself like Paul's fighting a lot

Yeah right! Only those avid fans who have lots of money to spare for Butler, Inoue's chance to win is huge.

I'm not sure but most of the review, if not all, are favoring Inoue and we are seeing that reflecting from how bookies provide
the odds between the two fighters.

If there's someone who will take Butler here, it might be a fan of upset and huge potential profits. They've got their reason
in taking an underdog bet.

Only crazy bettors would risk their money betting on Butler, or those who are rich enough to waste their money, LOL.. Kidding aside, the probability of winning for Inoue is very high, and Inoue is still in his prime so can't bet against him, he is the man and he is gonna make a history of his own.

Can't agree more to this.
That also explains why the massive odd against Inoue.
According to this website : https://box.live/boxing-betting/inoue-vs-butler-odds/
Bookies have Inoue 93% chance of winning against Paul Butler's 7% winning chance. Majority is expecting the same result though, but If someone is willing to risk their money here, the winning reward is really great here than what you put on the line. The odds for Paul is really really tempting for the bettors, but then again you are gambling with the lowest chance and more likely to just donate your money lol.

Yes, but knowing the bad blood between Arum and Haymon, it's going to be very difficult to see them work at this point to have this fight.

However, we as fans could pressure the two to negotiate and make the fight. But we will have to wait then, Inoue is Arum's cash cow and so how he build Pacman, he will have to milk him first for more money before allowing him to fight champion in the super bantamweight.

Bob Arum might take that route as well for Inoue I think that is the best move, have 2 fights are non bearing, just to get a feel on 122 lbs. Unless they see Fulton as a paper and weak champion then they might opt to go for it, but the only hurdle is the promotion, as Stephen is with PBC.

So we will see, and for sure Inoue's camp is going to watch Casimero's move to 122 lbs as he could be a potential fight for them in the future.

I guess we also have to look at Fulton's manager he is under PBC, so can they sit down and talk about this fight if ever both are very interested against each other?

And we all know that Bob Arum and Al Haymon of PBC has a history of not wanting to work it out. So this is again a fight that might take years to make. While Akhmadaliev is with Eddie Hearn and Matchroom, so again, there could be few problem as well.

And the odds as well by crypto sports bookies, they know that Butler has a slim chance to win against the Monster. Yes, there could be upset, but it's the question on whether Butler has the tools, which we see that he didn't have because he even had a hard time against Jonas Sultan. And we believed if that is Casimero, then maybe it could be a different outcome (sorry for bringing the name of Casimero again, but it's a good comparison). So for backers of Butler here, best of luck.

Some do say that it would be depending on Inoue's decision but in overall the promoter would be always having the last decision on what decisions should be followed.Even if Inoue's been looking on moving on higher
weight division but Arum wont really be tending to approved on doing so then i dont see that he could do on what he wants but of course if Arum do sees potential huge money could really be made on
then he might able to approve but of course everything would be still on question.Boxing is business which it would be that normal on setting up things
which they do seem that they could benefit out.

Right! I'm also happy to see that there's someone here who believes that Butler have a good and fair chance in defeating the monster of Japan, Naoya Inoue. However, I will be also among the first ones who will break that statement because no offense to Butler's fans/believers out there, saying that Butler has a good chance is quite seriously an overstatement, why? Look at his recent fight against Jonas Sultan who is the replacement of Casimero, he just barely won that fight. Casimero could have destroyed this Baby Faced Assassin but the latter had an easy journey towards the unification fight against Inoue. That is why I really don't believe that Paul Butler have a decent chance against Inoue.

Something that fans will really love to see if Arum will negotiate once Inoue beats Butler. It will be a good test for both fighters if ever
that Inoue decided to move up.

The division champ is willing to stake his belt if ever Inoue call for the challenge, in some instance it will engage more fans especially
those who already impress by Inoue, moving up is something that they will expect.

He already dominated the current division seeing him in the place outside from his comfort zone give more credit to his career.

Hard to compare though, I guess Canelo being the pound for pound has it's perks has he was given the chance to fight for the 175 lbs belt.

So not sure if the organizations are going to do that with Inoue as well once he beat Butler. Maybe he will opt to get a tune up fight to get a feel of the 122 lbs. Or if he insists and given the opportunity, then Fulton could be his next opponent and definitely it will be a banger fight for us fans. Fulton has also expressed the same that he is willing to put his title in the line against the Monster.

It will be interesting to see how Inoue decides to manage his career if he beats Butler, both Canelo and Usyk decided to go for a title fight immediately after getting the undisputed and they got completely different results, Inoue seems to be convinced that he will do well and if he is right about his self-examination then it makes sense to try to get a title immediately as this will make him more money over the long run.

Well, clearly Inoue is at the top of the best boxers, but if he does a knockout it will obviously be good, but because of how he will most likely want to move up to a higher weight, if he does a more round fight without a knockout, he will make the fans remember much more, getting more fame, it is not the same to say that he did a knockout as to say that he did 12 rounds with all the rounds totally dominated by him, this gives much more show, and by giving more show gets more fans and they will see this to look for fights where they will make him more famous and therefore there will be much more business so that he can access more money, that way it is the one that the boxer is looking for, something similar he is doing the Russian boxer Bivol.


Well, it is not to determine who is the undisputed champion, although Inoue is a boxer who has everything very clear, he has his direction well focused on being the undisputed, for me if he can be victorious, it remains to be seen how Butler will come out, Butler must be very pressure too, because he is a boxer who can really make history if he does not allow Inoue to beat him, for me it is one of the things that can make a difference, however we have to wait, everything is in the hands of both boxers, taking into account Inoue's expertise is likely to win out and that's why the odds are so biased in favor of Inoue.


Without a doubt, he is a boxer with a great hunger for triumphs, the Japanese knows very well where he can make history, for now he must wait to see how it goes with Butler, it is something that can become either very easy or difficult but something can be solved Of course, if he wants to achieve that, he must win this fight, what seems to be that making those decisions has a lot to do with how willing he is to be able to do something against that type of opponent, he says himself, that I am unknown to him, only that the blows will weigh a little more on him, it's all a matter of adapting, the category he is in is not the same as gaining a couple of pounds more.

I agree. There's a chance that Inoue might lose if they will push a fight against the champions already.

The best way to milk some money for him is to have him fight first those boxers on the super bantamweight, maybe those in the Top 5 will do.

But at the time Inoue now has a chance to fight those champions, I hope that time, it's still Fulton or Akhmadaliev holding the titles.

We know that its business and for those handlers or promoters then they would be normally be doing up their best on maximizing out possible profits into those very common obvious ways.They do have the rights whether
for a certain fight to be pushed on or would be redirected into other fights which they could potentially or do sees that it could sold out ppvs and gym tickets or whatsoever in connected to that.
As for Inoue, he's really into its prime and now its really hard to believe on that Butler could defeat him out but im not making direct conclusions but basing up
on how they do fight then you could really see the differences.

Since Naoya Inoue is currently prime, he can generate more money by fighting other boxers in the meantime instead of going against directly the champions. Like what happened to Pacquiao during his prime and being managed by Bob Arum, there are fights of his that give disappointment fans but in return, still always produced sold-out tickets and PPV. As we know Arum, he will maximize what Inoue can bring before considering him to fight for the title match.

From what I see if ever Inoue will moved up, he will have 2-3 non-title fights first then after that, a title match will be next.

Bob Arum won't do that for sure even if the market is too good for both promoters if Inoue will go straight to the champions, either Fulton or Murodjon. There's a lot of undefeated boxers on the super-bantam division that will be good for Inoue in his first fight, testing the waters first will be the best option, there's no need to hurry even if Inoue have a good chance against these guys.

Knowing Arum, it will not be hard to assess if what his decision is as long as there is a pot of money, then he will consider that.

Inoue is a monster and if in case he decided to move up after this upcoming fight, his winning chance is still good, not high since it's different
weight and the power of his possible opponent is much greater than those who he met before.

Let's all wait after facing Butler if there's any update between him and Arum regarding to moving to another division.