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Topic: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13 - page 31. (Read 16053 times)

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Yes, Butler now faces a very difficult task.  Perhaps his only chance is to outsmart the Japanese boxer.  

He may pretend to be weakened and incapable of active resistance.  And then inflict an unexpected blow to the Japanese on the head.  Maybe this trick will work.  Butler's main problem is that his opponent is younger and faster. Of course, Butler himself will get tired much earlier than his opponent.

Also, he cannot count on his strength, because the Japanese is also very strong.  

Therefore, only cunning can bring victory.  Some clever professional trick.  

Well, we know that in any boxing match there can be an unexpected denouement.
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I don't think Butler's skill should be underestimated.  Yes, in the upcoming battle, he is potentially very much inferior to the Japanese. 

However, Butler is an experienced and strong fighter.  If he does not lose personal courage and fights with all his strength, then he has a chance to win.  Butler is very unpredictable.  It is not for nothing that this boxer is called the Killer, who has a childish face.  He can outsmart the Japanese. 

If the Japanese boxer relaxes, then Butler can launch a surprise attack that will lead to a technical knockout.  Such an option now seems completely unbelievable, but it is possible.

Inoue is not one of those fighters who allow himself to relax in the ring, his advantage in this fight looks very clear, he has a very strong punch and he surpasses Butler in speed. Butler says that he is not afraid of Inoue, moreover, he is confident in his victory. It is clear what is the point of entering the ring if you are not confident in yourself, but also need to be objective, Inoue is the clear favorite in this fight.
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Even if Donaire is in his prime, I think Inoue can still beat him, but maybe not as easy as he beat in their rematch. Well, for sure Donaire is going to retire soon while Inoue is a rising superstar, so we still have a lot of fights to expect from the monster. If he decides to move up, then it will only make his career more exciting as he will face bigger challenges in heavier division.

It is hard to speculate since Donaire is way faster in his prime.  But let us leave things as it is, Donaire and Inoue are both great fighters and it is a good thing for us boxing fans that another great fighter comes up as the older great fighter is about to retire.


I don't think Butler's skill should be underestimated.  Yes, in the upcoming battle, he is potentially very much inferior to the Japanese. 

However, Butler is an experienced and strong fighter.  If he does not lose personal courage and fights with all his strength, then he has a chance to win.  Butler is very unpredictable.  It is not for nothing that this boxer is called the Killer, who has a childish face.  He can outsmart the Japanese. 

If the Japanese boxer relaxes, then Butler can launch a surprise attack that will lead to a technical knockout.  Such an option now seems completely unbelievable, but it is possible.

Sure lapses on boxers while in a fight happen but I do not think it will happen on Inoue.  As far as I see, Inoue is a well-disciplined boxer.  Lapses only happen on boxer that is too cocky and Inoue isn't one of them.

I'm pretty sure that Butler is already aware on how good Inoue is, so for sure, he is already preparing how to be effective in the fight night. Inoue is the best, but he has a weakness as well, and that's what Butler's camp has to find out so they can play the right strategy.

True, so it interests me what kind of strategy Butler will implement since I cannot find any gap in Inoue's ability that Butler can take advantage of.  It is also quite slim for Butler to score a knockout since Inoue can really take heavy punches and we have seen it on his previous fights against heavy hitter like Donaire and Moloney.
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I don't think Butler's skill should be underestimated.  Yes, in the upcoming battle, he is potentially very much inferior to the Japanese.  

However, Butler is an experienced and strong fighter.  If he does not lose personal courage and fights with all his strength, then he has a chance to win.  Butler is very unpredictable.  It is not for nothing that this boxer is called the Killer, who has a childish face.  He can outsmart the Japanese.  

If the Japanese boxer relaxes, then Butler can launch a surprise attack that will lead to a technical knockout.  Such an option now seems completely unbelievable, but it is possible.
In this case we know that Butler's quality is very good but the problem is Inoue is one of those fast boxers and he can hold a punch.

Relax? he is not that typical because of the aggressiveness and speed he always displays in every fight and maybe we can see one of his last fights against Donaire a few months ago.
On the other hand Butler must be wary of Inoue's left hand in this match because he is a monster especially when his left hand punch is really strong.

Yes, I agree with you, it will be very difficult for Butler to win.  The Japanese are a very disciplined nation.  

To understand this, it is enough to read the code of honor of the Japanese samurai, which is called bushido.  It was discipline and self-control that allowed modern Japanese to achieve great success in the development of modern electronic technologies.  The Japanese are very attentive and focused.

Inoue is no exception.  And for sure he will try to show himself in this fight as best as possible.  

However, it also has its weaknesses and shortcomings.  

And the English boxer needs to make every effort to win this boxing match.
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I don't think Butler's skill should be underestimated.  Yes, in the upcoming battle, he is potentially very much inferior to the Japanese. 

However, Butler is an experienced and strong fighter.  If he does not lose personal courage and fights with all his strength, then he has a chance to win.  Butler is very unpredictable.  It is not for nothing that this boxer is called the Killer, who has a childish face.  He can outsmart the Japanese. 

If the Japanese boxer relaxes, then Butler can launch a surprise attack that will lead to a technical knockout.  Such an option now seems completely unbelievable, but it is possible.
In this case we know that Butler's quality is very good but the problem is Inoue is one of those fast boxers and he can hold a punch.

Relax? he is not that typical because of the aggressiveness and speed he always displays in every fight and maybe we can see one of his last fights against Donaire a few months ago.
On the other hand Butler must be wary of Inoue's left hand in this match because he is a monster especially when his left hand punch is really strong.

I'm pretty sure that Butler is already aware on how good Inoue is, so for sure, he is already preparing how to be effective in the fight night. Inoue is the best, but he has a weakness as well, and that's what Butler's camp has to find out so they can play the right strategy.
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I don't think Butler's skill should be underestimated.  Yes, in the upcoming battle, he is potentially very much inferior to the Japanese. 

However, Butler is an experienced and strong fighter.  If he does not lose personal courage and fights with all his strength, then he has a chance to win.  Butler is very unpredictable.  It is not for nothing that this boxer is called the Killer, who has a childish face.  He can outsmart the Japanese. 

If the Japanese boxer relaxes, then Butler can launch a surprise attack that will lead to a technical knockout.  Such an option now seems completely unbelievable, but it is possible.
In this case we know that Butler's quality is very good but the problem is Inoue is one of those fast boxers and he can hold a punch.

Relax? he is not that typical because of the aggressiveness and speed he always displays in every fight and maybe we can see one of his last fights against Donaire a few months ago.
On the other hand Butler must be wary of Inoue's left hand in this match because he is a monster especially when his left hand punch is really strong.
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The only thing to survive in my opinion is not to dare to deal with toe-to-toe confrontations. I mean not to let
Inoue to box him and allow exchanges of punches.

If Butler will avoid that scenario, he will not win. If surviving is the only goal, what's the purpose of the fight?

He should just take the risks since this is the biggest fight of his career. Regardless of how long their distant, he should just try.

It's fine to see him losing if he tries to fight toe-to-toe with Inoue instead of just avoiding the Monster all the time just to survive. Much better for Butler fans to remember him that way. Smiley
I think this is the approach that Butler must follow, if he tries to run away and avoid a direct confrontation with Inoue not only he will not win the fight but his fans will be incredibly disappointed of him, instead if he decides to fight Inoue with everything that he has he may still lose but at least everyone will see on him a fighter which was not afraid of the challenge in front of him, and on his next fights he will still be able to generate some interest on him due to his performance.

I don't think Butler's skill should be underestimated.  Yes, in the upcoming battle, he is potentially very much inferior to the Japanese. 

However, Butler is an experienced and strong fighter.  If he does not lose personal courage and fights with all his strength, then he has a chance to win.  Butler is very unpredictable.  It is not for nothing that this boxer is called the Killer, who has a childish face.  He can outsmart the Japanese. 

If the Japanese boxer relaxes, then Butler can launch a surprise attack that will lead to a technical knockout.  Such an option now seems completely unbelievable, but it is possible.
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The only thing to survive in my opinion is not to dare to deal with toe-to-toe confrontations. I mean not to let
Inoue to box him and allow exchanges of punches.

If Butler will avoid that scenario, he will not win. If surviving is the only goal, what's the purpose of the fight?

He should just take the risks since this is the biggest fight of his career. Regardless of how long their distant, he should just try.

It's fine to see him losing if he tries to fight toe-to-toe with Inoue instead of just avoiding the Monster all the time just to survive. Much better for Butler fans to remember him that way. Smiley
I think this is the approach that Butler must follow, if he tries to run away and avoid a direct confrontation with Inoue not only he will not win the fight but his fans will be incredibly disappointed of him, instead if he decides to fight Inoue with everything that he has he may still lose but at least everyone will see on him a fighter which was not afraid of the challenge in front of him, and on his next fights he will still be able to generate some interest on him due to his performance.
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The only thing to survive in my opinion is not to dare to deal with toe-to-toe confrontations. I mean not to let
Inoue to box him and allow exchanges of punches.

If Butler will avoid that scenario, he will not win. If surviving is the only goal, what's the purpose of the fight?

He should just take the risks since this is the biggest fight of his career. Regardless of how long their distant, he should just try.

It's fine to see him losing if he tries to fight toe-to-toe with Inoue instead of just avoiding the Monster all the time just to survive. Much better for Butler fans to remember him that way. Smiley
If you do know that you would gonna loss then it would be better if you do show up your best as much as you could which would be leaving good impressions and some respect
rather than ending up on surviving via running and clinching will really be giving the opposite way around.We cant really make out some conclusions but basing up on paper and
past fight performances then we could really say on whose the better one but just like been said earlier that its better to try rather than making yourself running around. Smiley
It would always generate bad words and criticisms if people doesnt really able to see on what they do want to see.


I can agree with both of you, my only point in my opinion is for him not to be knocked down,

though both points are valid, and like what OP said, it's a big fight for him, so why bother not to try his luck
and be aggressive in finding good openings.

I used to remember the first fight between Inoue and Donaire. It was a close fist fight but Inoue's capabilities
in taking solid punches is really something that goes for his advantage.
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The only thing to survive in my opinion is not to dare to deal with toe-to-toe confrontations. I mean not to let
Inoue to box him and allow exchanges of punches.

If Butler will avoid that scenario, he will not win. If surviving is the only goal, what's the purpose of the fight?

He should just take the risks since this is the biggest fight of his career. Regardless of how long their distant, he should just try.

It's fine to see him losing if he tries to fight toe-to-toe with Inoue instead of just avoiding the Monster all the time just to survive. Much better for Butler fans to remember him that way. Smiley
If you do know that you would gonna loss then it would be better if you do show up your best as much as you could which would be leaving good impressions and some respect
rather than ending up on surviving via running and clinching will really be giving the opposite way around.We cant really make out some conclusions but basing up on paper and
past fight performances then we could really say on whose the better one but just like been said earlier that its better to try rather than making yourself running around. Smiley
It would always generate bad words and criticisms if people doesnt really able to see on what they do want to see.
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He will be tested again against Butler, expect him to perform the same
way as how he over power Donaire.

I think it's better to say that Paul Butler will be the one that will be tested instead, not Inoue. Cheesy

Inoue doesn't need to be tested on this fight as he is up against Butler at all factors. The chance of Butler winning this fight is really low. The only advantage that Butler will have is if Inoue will have an injury prior to their fight. But Inoue is very disciplined with his training and never pushes his body too far that's why even a slight injury will not happen on Inoue's side during training.

I agree with you, Butler will also have options to win, but I think the only option is the surprise, that he surprises him at any moment, either trying a knockout or something, but I'm sure that for now Inoue has a very high level , and I think that he has achieved this due to his high training and really because he has great experience in the fight, this determines him as a fighter and as a person who does not lower his level despite having many victories, I am also a supporter that the undisputed winner will be Inoue, but for me there is still a long time for this fight, anything can happen and Butler can have a very exhausting training to face him, and that can make the difference.

So I don't think that Butler can go the whole 12 rounds. It will really be a punishment and maybe his team will throw in the towel because they don't want Paul to get ruin by so much punches he will get from Inoue if ever it will go to the distance and they will still lost in the judges card.

His team might not get even a chance to throw that towel because Inoue is so quick that they will not know when is the right time to throw that towel to stop the fight. The moment they will throw the towel, Butler might already kiss the floor.

No disgrace to Butler or to any fans here that we are throwing speculations like that. It's just that, that's the close thing to happen. Yes, Inoue is also a human and they have the same weight as Butler but the former's built is really something that no one in Bantamweight can match against him.

That only shows that Butler is just too far from Inoue's current prowess, we cannot be throwing some low speculations to his end if we don't know the real score between. That is just sad for Butler and I bet that even him knew and cannot deny that he can't really keep up with Inoue, even Donaire can't keep up, so it is quite safe to assume that Butler won't be fighting for long with Inoue in the same ring.

I agree about that! Butler is nowhere near Inoue's league, I know somebody might argue with me on this especially Butler's fans but that is the truth and I definitely think that majority here would agree with me. Butler's only chance to get out from the fight safe is to get his camp throw in the towel at the end of their selected round, he might get criticized for playing safe but there is no other choice.

What happens is that when a boxer fights it safe, it is something that cannot be applied all the time because that steals a lot of attention and the people and the fans do not like it, more so if they make it all a fight attached only to the technical, because if that is the case, it is better that they do not do it because it would be very boring, if Inoue fights very, very defensively and Butler too (I hope not) it will be a fight that will bring disappointment, but in my personal opinion, I think Butler leaves iur with everything towards Inoue, that's what I think, he won't leave anything up in the air, and he's not going to leave like a loser who didn't want to give everything out of fear, that's the worst thing that could happen to a bnoxer, from my point of view I consider it a great failure.
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The only thing to survive in my opinion is not to dare to deal with toe-to-toe confrontations. I mean not to let
Inoue to box him and allow exchanges of punches.

If Butler will avoid that scenario, he will not win. If surviving is the only goal, what's the purpose of the fight?

He should just take the risks since this is the biggest fight of his career. Regardless of how long their distant, he should just try.

It's fine to see him losing if he tries to fight toe-to-toe with Inoue instead of just avoiding the Monster all the time just to survive. Much better for Butler fans to remember him that way. Smiley
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So I don't think that Butler can go the whole 12 rounds. It will really be a punishment and maybe his team will throw in the towel because they don't want Paul to get ruin by so much punches he will get from Inoue if ever it will go to the distance and they will still lost in the judges card.

His team might not get even a chance to throw that towel because Inoue is so quick that they will not know when is the right time to throw that towel to stop the fight. The moment they will throw the towel, Butler might already kiss the floor.

No disgrace to Butler or to any fans here that we are throwing speculations like that. It's just that, that's the close thing to happen. Yes, Inoue is also a human and they have the same weight as Butler but the former's built is really something that no one in Bantamweight can match against him.

That only shows that Butler is just too far from Inoue's current prowess, we cannot be throwing some low speculations to his end if we don't know the real score between. That is just sad for Butler and I bet that even him knew and cannot deny that he can't really keep up with Inoue, even Donaire can't keep up, so it is quite safe to assume that Butler won't be fighting for long with Inoue in the same ring.

I agree about that! Butler is nowhere near Inoue's league, I know somebody might argue with me on this especially Butler's fans but that is the truth and I definitely think that majority here would agree with me. Butler's only chance to get out from the fight safe is to get his camp throw in the towel at the end of their selected round, he might get criticized for playing safe but there is no other choice.
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So I don't think that Butler can go the whole 12 rounds. It will really be a punishment and maybe his team will throw in the towel because they don't want Paul to get ruin by so much punches he will get from Inoue if ever it will go to the distance and they will still lost in the judges card.

His team might not get even a chance to throw that towel because Inoue is so quick that they will not know when is the right time to throw that towel to stop the fight. The moment they will throw the towel, Butler might already kiss the floor.

No disgrace to Butler or to any fans here that we are throwing speculations like that. It's just that, that's the close thing to happen. Yes, Inoue is also a human and they have the same weight as Butler but the former's built is really something that no one in Bantamweight can match against him.

Butler camps need to act fast if they are not want to see Butler kissing the floor.

I see your point and it's true Inoue's skills can put him down in the way that he doesn't know where it's coming,
this fighter has an extraordinary speed in this division.

The only thing to survive in my opinion is not to dare to deal with toe-to-toe confrontations. I mean not to let
Inoue to box him and allow exchanges of punches.

There's nothing to improve for Butler, he did a great job on his last fight and he got the belt. I think surviving is the most important thing he has to do here, going toe to toe will likely end the fight early, and Inoue will be declared as the undisputed champion.

Butler was just so lucky because he just fought a replacement boxer because Casimero can't make the weight needed, otherwise, it would be Casimero who will be fighting Inoue now for the undisputed title in the bantamweight division. It's still a win-win situation for Butler, he just needed to survive the whole fight, might be hard but he have to because the money that he'd get is already guaranteed.
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So I don't think that Butler can go the whole 12 rounds. It will really be a punishment and maybe his team will throw in the towel because they don't want Paul to get ruin by so much punches he will get from Inoue if ever it will go to the distance and they will still lost in the judges card.

His team might not get even a chance to throw that towel because Inoue is so quick that they will not know when is the right time to throw that towel to stop the fight. The moment they will throw the towel, Butler might already kiss the floor.

No disgrace to Butler or to any fans here that we are throwing speculations like that. It's just that, that's the close thing to happen. Yes, Inoue is also a human and they have the same weight as Butler but the former's built is really something that no one in Bantamweight can match against him.

That only shows that Butler is just too far from Inoue's current prowess, we cannot be throwing some low speculations to his end if we don't know the real score between. That is just sad for Butler and I bet that even him knew and cannot deny that he can't really keep up with Inoue, even Donaire can't keep up, so it is quite safe to assume that Butler won't be fighting for long with Inoue in the same ring.
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So I don't think that Butler can go the whole 12 rounds. It will really be a punishment and maybe his team will throw in the towel because they don't want Paul to get ruin by so much punches he will get from Inoue if ever it will go to the distance and they will still lost in the judges card.

His team might not get even a chance to throw that towel because Inoue is so quick that they will not know when is the right time to throw that towel to stop the fight. The moment they will throw the towel, Butler might already kiss the floor.

No disgrace to Butler or to any fans here that we are throwing speculations like that. It's just that, that's the close thing to happen. Yes, Inoue is also a human and they have the same weight as Butler but the former's built is really something that no one in Bantamweight can match against him.

Butler camps need to act fast if they are not want to see Butler kissing the floor.

I see your point and it's true Inoue's skills can put him down in the way that he doesn't know where it's coming,
this fighter has an extraordinary speed in this division.

The only thing to survive in my opinion is not to dare to deal with toe-to-toe confrontations. I mean not to let
Inoue to box him and allow exchanges of punches.

There's nothing to improve for Butler, he did a great job on his last fight and he got the belt. I think surviving is the most important thing he has to do here, going toe to toe will likely end the fight early, and Inoue will be declared as the undisputed champion.
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So I don't think that Butler can go the whole 12 rounds. It will really be a punishment and maybe his team will throw in the towel because they don't want Paul to get ruin by so much punches he will get from Inoue if ever it will go to the distance and they will still lost in the judges card.

His team might not get even a chance to throw that towel because Inoue is so quick that they will not know when is the right time to throw that towel to stop the fight. The moment they will throw the towel, Butler might already kiss the floor.

No disgrace to Butler or to any fans here that we are throwing speculations like that. It's just that, that's the close thing to happen. Yes, Inoue is also a human and they have the same weight as Butler but the former's built is really something that no one in Bantamweight can match against him.

Butler camps need to act fast if they are not want to see Butler kissing the floor.

I see your point and it's true Inoue's skills can put him down in the way that he doesn't know where it's coming,
this fighter has an extraordinary speed in this division.

The only thing to survive in my opinion is not to dare to deal with toe-to-toe confrontations. I mean not to let
Inoue to box him and allow exchanges of punches.
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So I don't think that Butler can go the whole 12 rounds. It will really be a punishment and maybe his team will throw in the towel because they don't want Paul to get ruin by so much punches he will get from Inoue if ever it will go to the distance and they will still lost in the judges card.

His team might not get even a chance to throw that towel because Inoue is so quick that they will not know when is the right time to throw that towel to stop the fight. The moment they will throw the towel, Butler might already kiss the floor.

I think the discussion was brought up on the premise that Butler will last the whole fight. That's why speculate that he will be mark or will disfigure his face but still wanted to continue the fight. Or his ring will have the duty to throw the white flag to prevent Inoue from being hurt. Look at the Pacquiao fight, Antonio Margarito faces was disfigured by Manny, and yet Robert Garcia refuses to throw the towel because of their "Mexican Pride". And now Antonio was able to make a comeback after that, and now has a artficial eye because of that. Corner shouldn't let that happen to their boxer.


Career's not over for Butler in case he will lose this fight, his side has to protect his health as boxing is just a competition, no boxer can win all the time, sometimes they have to accept and just try to work more to improve next time. Being brave is important but being smart is more important.
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So I don't think that Butler can go the whole 12 rounds. It will really be a punishment and maybe his team will throw in the towel because they don't want Paul to get ruin by so much punches he will get from Inoue if ever it will go to the distance and they will still lost in the judges card.

His team might not get even a chance to throw that towel because Inoue is so quick that they will not know when is the right time to throw that towel to stop the fight. The moment they will throw the towel, Butler might already kiss the floor.

I think the discussion was brought up on the premise that Butler will last the whole fight. That's why speculate that he will be mark or will disfigure his face but still wanted to continue the fight. Or his ring will have the duty to throw the white flag to prevent Inoue from being hurt. Look at the Pacquiao fight, Antonio Margarito faces was disfigured by Manny, and yet Robert Garcia refuses to throw the towel because of their "Mexican Pride". And now Antonio was able to make a comeback after that, and now has a artficial eye because of that. Corner shouldn't let that happen to their boxer.
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So I don't think that Butler can go the whole 12 rounds. It will really be a punishment and maybe his team will throw in the towel because they don't want Paul to get ruin by so much punches he will get from Inoue if ever it will go to the distance and they will still lost in the judges card.

His team might not get even a chance to throw that towel because Inoue is so quick that they will not know when is the right time to throw that towel to stop the fight. The moment they will throw the towel, Butler might already kiss the floor.

No disgrace to Butler or to any fans here that we are throwing speculations like that. It's just that, that's the close thing to happen. Yes, Inoue is also a human and they have the same weight as Butler but the former's built is really something that no one in Bantamweight can match against him.
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