[Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13 - page 33.

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When you bet on Butler to win, you are most likely going to throw away your money. Though I can see, some are starting to get interested in ML for Paul Butler. Well, if you've got money to burn, take the risk, upsets are always there anyway. Who knows.

For Paul Butler fans, they won't think that they are wasting money betting on him as they want to show support for the boxer.

True, there are supporters that are willing to make huge bet, regardless of what the odds are for this boxer. And in this case, it will not be a waste of money, because Butler is a huge underdog and if he wins, then his fans who bet on him will also win big.

That's the price you will get if a huge underdog will win, you are like winning a jackpot here.
Although I believe 90% believe that Inoue will win but it's not a guarantee that Inoue will win, remember that he is just a human, he can also make mistakes and Butler could take advantage on that.

That is a big question for now because no matter which angle we are trying to see, the odds are in favor of Inoue and almost none of here will even disagree for that fact. But yes, I agree with you guys, Inoue's victory is not guaranteed yet because they still have to fight, and we never know if Butler will be very lucky at the day of their fight. We will see soon what Butler will do in front of the monster.

Smart money will go to Inoue, those who are looking for a lottery win will go to Butler. So it's just a matter on how the bettors will look at it. If you want a long shot to win in order to have a windfall then Butler, but the odds are very slim. And if you are smart, then you just have to look at what other betting options for Inoue, or better yet, if you have thousands of dollars then ML might be good, and at least you can 'feel' some winnings if you bet huge on him.

When it comes to odds and according on to this site or article.
Naoya Inoue has opened as a massive -3300 favorite against Paul Butler.
https://www.thesportsgeek.com/news/naoya-inoue-massive-favorite-against-paul-butler/

Considering if you on moneyline then expect that odds arent really giving that much huge win which is common sense.
Why would go for lottery bet on BUttler if you do see that chances are almost close to zero? Grin

Well there are people who would really make that bet.

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When you bet on Butler to win, you are most likely going to throw away your money. Though I can see, some are starting to get interested in ML for Paul Butler. Well, if you've got money to burn, take the risk, upsets are always there anyway. Who knows.

For Paul Butler fans, they won't think that they are wasting money betting on him as they want to show support for the boxer.

True, there are supporters that are willing to make huge bet, regardless of what the odds are for this boxer. And in this case, it will not be a waste of money, because Butler is a huge underdog and if he wins, then his fans who bet on him will also win big.

That's the price you will get if a huge underdog will win, you are like winning a jackpot here.
Although I believe 90% believe that Inoue will win but it's not a guarantee that Inoue will win, remember that he is just a human, he can also make mistakes and Butler could take advantage on that.

That is a big question for now because no matter which angle we are trying to see, the odds are in favor of Inoue and almost none of here will even disagree for that fact. But yes, I agree with you guys, Inoue's victory is not guaranteed yet because they still have to fight, and we never know if Butler will be very lucky at the day of their fight. We will see soon what Butler will do in front of the monster.

Smart money will go to Inoue, those who are looking for a lottery win will go to Butler. So it's just a matter on how the bettors will look at it. If you want a long shot to win in order to have a windfall then Butler, but the odds are very slim. And if you are smart, then you just have to look at what other betting options for Inoue, or better yet, if you have thousands of dollars then ML might be good, and at least you can 'feel' some winnings if you bet huge on him.

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When you bet on Butler to win, you are most likely going to throw away your money. Though I can see, some are starting to get interested in ML for Paul Butler. Well, if you've got money to burn, take the risk, upsets are always there anyway. Who knows.

For Paul Butler fans, they won't think that they are wasting money betting on him as they want to show support for the boxer.

True, there are supporters that are willing to make huge bet, regardless of what the odds are for this boxer. And in this case, it will not be a waste of money, because Butler is a huge underdog and if he wins, then his fans who bet on him will also win big.

That's the price you will get if a huge underdog will win, you are like winning a jackpot here.
Although I believe 90% believe that Inoue will win but it's not a guarantee that Inoue will win, remember that he is just a human, he can also make mistakes and Butler could take advantage on that.

That is a big question for now because no matter which angle we are trying to see, the odds are in favor of Inoue and almost none of here will even disagree for that fact. But yes, I agree with you guys, Inoue's victory is not guaranteed yet because they still have to fight, and we never know if Butler will be very lucky at the day of their fight. We will see soon what Butler will do in front of the monster.

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Quote from: ultrloa on September 20, 2022, 08:05:55 AM

For sure will go on Inoue this time because I think he is much stronger than Butler since he is young fast and have killer punch which can totally knock out his opponent.

Everytime Inoue has a fight, the majority of the fans are rooting him to win, so it's not a surprise because he is the better fighter here based on their stats in comparison. Actually, fans are not discussing on who will win, they are discussing on how Inoue will win.

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We will find out this December, right now, the only available odds are the moneyline odds which is 1.02 for Inoue per my bookie. Maybe bettors will just be predicting which round Inoue will KO Butler as most likely Inoue will again win by KO. I believe he can do it with Butler as he does it with Donaire which is a better fighter than Butler IMO.

Correct. For sure in December, more lines will be opened. Even if it will out now, it's hard to analyze on what round Naoya Inoue will defeat Paul Butler. Even at the first round, Butler might put on sleep knowing how strong Inoue is.

KO at 1st Round - 3rd round I think will be @1.5.

With how spectacular he performed against Donaire, almost all of us are expecting that this fight won't last long and yes, this could end before the bell rings after the third round if Paul Butler commits a mistake just like Donaire.

I think as early as November we can see all the odds/markets for this fight because Inoue has already carved a name in the boxing world, especially in Las Vegas.

For sure fans will be in favor with Inoue because he's past performance will tell all and what he do on Donaire is pretty much good indicator that he might dominate there fight.

For sure will go on Inoue this time because I think he is much stronger than Butler since he is young fast and have killer punch which can totally knock out his opponent.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on September 17, 2022, 08:49:11 AM

We will find out this December, right now, the only available odds are the moneyline odds which is 1.02 for Inoue per my bookie. Maybe bettors will just be predicting which round Inoue will KO Butler as most likely Inoue will again win by KO. I believe he can do it with Butler as he does it with Donaire which is a better fighter than Butler IMO.

Correct. For sure in December, more lines will be opened. Even if it will out now, it's hard to analyze on what round Naoya Inoue will defeat Paul Butler. Even at the first round, Butler might put on sleep knowing how strong Inoue is.

KO at 1st Round - 3rd round I think will be @1.5.

With how spectacular he performed against Donaire, almost all of us are expecting that this fight won't last long and yes, this could end before the bell rings after the third round if Paul Butler commits a mistake just like Donaire.

I think as early as November we can see all the odds/markets for this fight because Inoue has already carved a name in the boxing world, especially in Las Vegas.

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Naoya Inoue is now closer to becoming an undisputed bantamweight champion. What do you think guys, will he move up now to the featherweight division after that, or he will stay as bantamweight to accept more challenges here?

For me, he should moved up.

After dominating every single opponent in his current weight division, he should move up and continue climbing to the top because a boxer like him is very rare nowadays and it's really a rare scene to see someone winning his fight one after another to become undisputed and he is not just winning, he is knocking his opponent as if they were nothing but a punching bag for him. Just look at what he did to Donaire in their last fight. It's really nice to see he will beat his opponents in the upper-weight class like that.

If he really wants to achieve greatness, there's no reason for him to stay at bantamweight where he already won the undisputed championship (in case he will win), new division, better challenges and if he still succeed, that will make him more popular and will become one of the greatest boxers in the world.

Let's expect that it will be his next move, staying in a division that he is dominating does not increase his ranking, so it's wise to move up and face the champions, I think the higher the weight the more popular the division, which means more money will come for him.

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Naoya Inoue is now closer to becoming an undisputed bantamweight champion. What do you think guys, will he move up now to the featherweight division after that, or he will stay as bantamweight to accept more challenges here?

For me, he should moved up.

After dominating every single opponent in his current weight division, he should move up and continue climbing to the top because a boxer like him is very rare nowadays and it's really a rare scene to see someone winning his fight one after another to become undisputed and he is not just winning, he is knocking his opponent as if they were nothing but a punching bag for him. Just look at what he did to Donaire in their last fight. It's really nice to see he will beat his opponents in the upper-weight class like that.

If he really wants to achieve greatness, there's no reason for him to stay at bantamweight where he already won the undisputed championship (in case he will win), new division, better challenges and if he still succeed, that will make him more popular and will become one of the greatest boxers in the world.

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Quote from: goinmerry on September 19, 2022, 07:57:19 PM

Naoya Inoue is now closer to becoming an undisputed bantamweight champion. What do you think guys, will he move up now to the featherweight division after that, or he will stay as bantamweight to accept more challenges here?

For me, he should moved up.

After dominating every single opponent in his current weight division, he should move up and continue climbing to the top because a boxer like him is very rare nowadays and it's really a rare scene to see someone winning his fight one after another to become undisputed and he is not just winning, he is knocking his opponent as if they were nothing but a punching bag for him. Just look at what he did to Donaire in their last fight. It's really nice to see he will beat his opponents in the upper-weight class like that.

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Quote from: goinmerry on September 19, 2022, 07:57:19 PM

Naoya Inoue is now closer to becoming an undisputed bantamweight champion. What do you think guys, will he move up now to the featherweight division after that, or he will stay as bantamweight to accept more challenges here?

For me, he should moved up.

If that happens then there's no sense anymore for him to wait for another challenger as it seems that no one would likely want to challenge him on that weight division.

It's better for him to move up and I'm with that opinion of yours.

That, he should move up to have another weight class for his aim to gain another title.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on September 17, 2022, 08:49:11 AM

We will find out this December, right now, the only available odds are the moneyline odds which is 1.02 for Inoue per my bookie. Maybe bettors will just be predicting which round Inoue will KO Butler as most likely Inoue will again win by KO. I believe he can do it with Butler as he does it with Donaire which is a better fighter than Butler IMO.

Correct. For sure in December, more lines will be opened. Even if it will out now, it's hard to analyze on what round Naoya Inoue will defeat Paul Butler. Even at the first round, Butler might put on sleep knowing how strong Inoue is.

KO at 1st Round - 3rd round I think will be @1.5.

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Naoya Inoue is now closer to becoming an undisputed bantamweight champion. What do you think guys, will he move up now to the featherweight division after that, or he will stay as bantamweight to accept more challenges here?

For me, he should moved up.

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Then we just have to wait for the other betting options while the fight is approaching.

We should not think about that for now. I also now become curious what's the odds for Inoue winning by KO in a specific round.

Anyway, as I mentioned, let's just wait.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on September 16, 2022, 11:19:12 PM

Right now I see things very complicated, especially for betting, I have seen how many people wait for the statistics, to give themselves a guide of what they can do, but who can the money and will risk it is ourselves as bettors, I in In case I do my personal research, that includes doing research online, interviews, something you may have seen, maybe some kind of training videos, everything that has to do with boxers.

Is that statement of yours referring to betting in this particular right?

There's no need to complicate everything. Research about this fight is nonsense as the result is very clear. Depends on the betting line, I doubt bookies will open a betting for Inoue winning by TKO in a matter of 6 rounds with decent odds.

Odds for Inoue winning by TKO in the early rounds maybe will just be around 1.4 - 1.5.

I agree, the line for the over/under might be at 7.5 rounds, but it will be the odds that are going to be interesting, but I believed it will be like that 1.4 - 1.5 as we all know that it's hard to stay for at least 6 rounds because of Inoue's punching power. So the odds that the bookies are going to offer the under is low, and we will be lucky if we get that kind of odds. And this fight is not going to be complicated, on the contrary, I'm seeing that maybe a few will skip this fight and would rather just enjoy it as it is. Yes, it's for the unification at bantamweight, but the level of the boxers are very different, Butler's chance of winning is very slim.

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When you bet on Butler to win, you are most likely going to throw away your money. Though I can see, some are starting to get interested in ML for Paul Butler. Well, if you've got money to burn, take the risk, upsets are always there anyway. Who knows.

For Paul Butler fans, they won't think that they are wasting money betting on him as they want to show support for the boxer.

True, there are supporters that are willing to make huge bet, regardless of what the odds are for this boxer. And in this case, it will not be a waste of money, because Butler is a huge underdog and if he wins, then his fans who bet on him will also win big.

That's the price you will get if a huge underdog will win, you are like winning a jackpot here.
Although I believe 90% believe that Inoue will win but it's not a guarantee that Inoue will win, remember that he is just a human, he can also make mistakes and Butler could take advantage on that.

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Quote from: harizen on September 17, 2022, 11:04:24 AM

From the bettors' side, it's really not making sense to place a bet on Butler just for the purpose of taking advantage of the odds. Let's wait for other betting options while the fight is approaching. Still, around 3 months to go, and expect that while the fight is approaching, more options we can choose to place our bet on.

But for gambling bettors like the majority of us, we would like to see better options. So what we do is wait for the listing of another options, the more the betting. And then we put our money where we think we can win and give value to our bets, specially for average bettors.

Options will be available as the fight is approaching, for now, we cannot expect to see the full odds since we still have more than 2 months before this fight will happen.

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Quote from: harizen on September 17, 2022, 11:04:24 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on September 17, 2022, 08:25:04 AM

When you bet on Butler to win, you are most likely going to throw away your money. Though I can see, some are starting to get interested in ML for Paul Butler. Well, if you've got money to burn, take the risk, upsets are always there anyway. Who knows.

For Paul Butler fans, they won't think that they are wasting money betting on him as they want to show support for the boxer.

True, there are supporters that are willing to make huge bet, regardless of what the odds are for this boxer. And in this case, it will not be a waste of money, because Butler is a huge underdog and if he wins, then his fans who bet on him will also win big.

Quote from: harizen on September 17, 2022, 11:04:24 AM

From the bettors' side, it's really not making sense to place a bet on Butler just for the purpose of taking advantage of the odds. Let's wait for other betting options while the fight is approaching. Still, around 3 months to go, and expect that while the fight is approaching, more options we can choose to place our bet on.

But for gambling bettors like the majority of us, we would like to see better options. So what we do is wait for the listing of another options, the more the betting. And then we put our money where we think we can win and give value to our bets, specially for average bettors.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on September 16, 2022, 11:19:12 PM

Right now I see things very complicated, especially for betting, I have seen how many people wait for the statistics, to give themselves a guide of what they can do, but who can the money and will risk it is ourselves as bettors, I in In case I do my personal research, that includes doing research online, interviews, something you may have seen, maybe some kind of training videos, everything that has to do with boxers.

Is that statement of yours referring to betting in this particular right?

There's no need to complicate everything. Research about this fight is nonsense as the result is very clear. Depends on the betting line, I doubt bookies will open a betting for Inoue winning by TKO in a matter of 6 rounds with decent odds.

Odds for Inoue winning by TKO in the early rounds maybe will just be around 1.4 - 1.5.

We will find out this December, right now, the only available odds are the moneyline odds which is 1.02 for Inoue per my bookie. Maybe bettors will just be predicting which round Inoue will KO Butler as most likely Inoue will again win by KO. I believe he can do it with Butler as he does it with Donaire which is a better fighter than Butler IMO.

Yes, betting options are still limited but in my own speculation, the odds for Inoue winning by KO regardless of the round, are not that high.

I might skip betting on this fight as knowing Butler, he even has a chance to be KO at Round 1.

It's hard to analyze this kind of matchup in terms of what round it will end by Inoue.

This is one of those matches in which unless you're a die hard fan of Butler then there is not much of a point on making a bet on his favor, without a doubt the odds will be very attractive but since the chances he'll actually win are so low it's simply not worth to take the risk, it's better to just enjoy the fight without making any bet and save your money for another fight in which both boxers are closer in terms of their skills.

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Quote from: agustina2 on September 17, 2022, 08:39:13 AM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on September 16, 2022, 11:19:12 PM

Right now I see things very complicated, especially for betting, I have seen how many people wait for the statistics, to give themselves a guide of what they can do, but who can the money and will risk it is ourselves as bettors, I in In case I do my personal research, that includes doing research online, interviews, something you may have seen, maybe some kind of training videos, everything that has to do with boxers.

Is that statement of yours referring to betting in this particular right?

There's no need to complicate everything. Research about this fight is nonsense as the result is very clear. Depends on the betting line, I doubt bookies will open a betting for Inoue winning by TKO in a matter of 6 rounds with decent odds.

Odds for Inoue winning by TKO in the early rounds maybe will just be around 1.4 - 1.5.

Right! Doing some research for this particular fight is quite rubbish and frankly, there's no need to do that especially if you already knew Inoue and how he fight. I mean it's almost nonsense to expect Butler that he can make some difference in this fight because we saw how Inoue fought Donaire, and made Donaire struggle reading the monster's movements. It will be a waste of money betting on Butler even if the betting odds are very tempting.

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Quote from: harizen on September 17, 2022, 11:04:24 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on September 17, 2022, 08:25:04 AM

When you bet on Butler to win, you are most likely going to throw away your money. Though I can see, some are starting to get interested in ML for Paul Butler. Well, if you've got money to burn, take the risk, upsets are always there anyway. Who knows.

For Paul Butler fans, they won't think that they are wasting money betting on him as they want to show support for the boxer.

From the bettors' side, it's really not making sense to place a bet on Butler just for the purpose of taking advantage of the odds. Let's wait for other betting options while the fight is approaching. Still, around 3 months to go, and expect that while the fight is approaching, more options we can choose to place our bet on.

It's only a waste of money if we are not enjoying the fight, we have our favorite fighter and we are supporting the fighter, so win or less the support is still there. For bettors' side, it's quite different as bettors do not need to be a fan in order to bet on the fight, so they could have a different purpose in watching the fight.

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Quote from: Oasisman on September 17, 2022, 08:25:04 AM

When you bet on Butler to win, you are most likely going to throw away your money. Though I can see, some are starting to get interested in ML for Paul Butler. Well, if you've got money to burn, take the risk, upsets are always there anyway. Who knows.

For Paul Butler fans, they won't think that they are wasting money betting on him as they want to show support for the boxer.

From the bettors' side, it's really not making sense to place a bet on Butler just for the purpose of taking advantage of the odds. Let's wait for other betting options while the fight is approaching. Still, around 3 months to go, and expect that while the fight is approaching, more options we can choose to place our bet on.

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