Topic: [Boxing] Nonito Donaire vs Alejandro Santiago for WBC bantamweight title (Read 4429 times)

Hopefully, they will be able to settle their issues outside of social media. We know how the news will spread if both Donaire and his
Dad will continue to broadcast what's happening between them.

I think that personal issue should not be shared and in the case that Donaire already forecast what his dad's prediction and it so happens
that it came true.

Hoping that they can correct this and they observe that saying which blood is thicker than water.

Well, what you've said is actually not far from happening because they might be against each other now but I know that somewhere in the future, both of them will come into terms as it's not good for a father and son to have a grudge like this specially in an Asian household and culture where there might be some misunderstanding, but sooner or later, all of that will cease because in the end, they are a family.

We all know that Donaire Sr. is a trainer and being a trainer, he has keen observation of the physique of a boxer.  I do not think that the Donaire Sr. has ill intention for his son but I believe what the Donaire Sr. stated is about his observation.  Donaire Jr. is way beyond his prime and is in a performance decline while Alejandro Santiago is performing well in had learned a lot which is shown in his recent fight.  Donaire Sr. also know the weakness of his son and it is possible that he thinks that the weakness will be shown in that match.  Donaire Jr. has this tendency to try to one-punch KO his opponent and he becomes impatient doing that especially when the opponent is much shorter than him.  We have seen it in his previous fights.


I also agree, the father will always care for his son even if he doesn't show it.  Maybe the father wanted fo his son to reach him first and fix things.

But at least though there is no personal grudge between the Mayweather. In Nonito Jr case, it seems that his father some some grudge to settle with him and thus he wish that his son getting knockout and not becoming a world champion again.

And his wish becoming true as he lost the fight against Santiago. But I do believed that blood is thicker than water and so after this, we might see them settling their issues and the family is closer again. Hopefully this can happen in the future.

Donaire probably is like Mayweather, who also does not have a good relationship with his father. Well, it's sad news, but we don't know what happened between them. All we know is that Donaire Sr. is a good trainer, and personally I don't agree with his prediction because it's something personal. He is not making views based on professional judgment.

I thought he will be in the mix or at least fight for the title eliminator? And thanks for this news, I don't know that he is being trained by Nonito Sr. Was he the trainer when Nonito Jr, knockout Gaballo though?

So in any case, this is the opposite of what is happening with Americans, their father was their trainer and they are really supportive about their sons, Like Bill Haney, Lopez Sr, the Benadivez brothers and others. But here, Nonito Sr was butt hurt when Jr left him and really shut him down for good when Nonito Jr become a champion and now a legend.

Yes, I also read this feed in my twitter, I thought him and his father has settled their differences already. But it seems the older Donaire has some hatchet to bury with his son. And it's really sad to hear this one.

It was a bitter separation as far as I can remember, the involvement of Rachel Donaire as a manager in his boxing career really put a dent on his father and they were never the same again.

Donaire is emotionally hurt after finding out that his father who used to be his former trainer on his first title shot against Darchinyan predicted that he would be knocked out by Santiago


https://twitter.com/filipinoflash/status/1686490127613427712

Nonito Donaire Jr. ‘hurt’ after dad predicted he would get knocked out by Santiago

They have a very bitter parting of ways Donaire Sr. should not say that thing it's like wishing that his son to be in trouble you never do that to your son, boxing is a dangerous sport he knows it since he is a trainer also, by saying this he doesn't care on his son anymore.

True, Gaballo is a slugger, and he has often relied on his strength. However, as you mentioned, he has improved significantly, and this could lead us to witness a different Gaballo—one who could potentially defeat a champion in the bantamweight division. He certainly has fighting skills, and I don't see Santiago and Moloney as difficult opponents to deal with in the ring. Gaballo definitely has a chance, but I wouldn't expect him to guarantee a win.

Since his lose to Donaire, Gaballo has fought twice in the Philippines with his new trainer, the old Donaire (Nonito's father) and they said that Gaballo has improved a lot when Nonito Sr take over as the trainer.

I don't know if Gaballo has the chance to fight any of the bantamweight belt but if he do i am confident that he could make life difficult of either Santiago or Moloney.

Gaballos' career was hyped when he was still undefeated, but when he lost to Donaire, he was out of circulation for a while. Now, since Donaire has experienced losses and is no longer a champion, and probably nearing retirement, Gaballo's chance has resurfaced, especially as the current champions are not on par with Donaire during his prime. Furthermore, Gaballo's loss against Donaire might actually be beneficial, as he can use that experience to mature and improve as a boxer.

As of now, there's no news yet on when Gaballo will fight or whom he will fight against, but considering his young age (only 26 years old), I believe he still has a promising future ahead in boxing.

I haven't followed this kid closely, so I was surprised to find out from https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/677961 that he had two wins after his loss to Donaire. Judging by his activity, we can say that he is an active boxer.

I think Jason Moloney did a great job at avoiding Nonito Donaire for the WBC fight because he was being challenged by Donaire. Now that he is defeated, he can try and dominate the 4 organizations thinking he could win against the new champions. That might be their strategy, in my opinion.
But, I am a Filipino so I want Reymart Gaballo to do this instead. Take the IBF title first, if it will be Moloney who will try to take it then he hits 2 birds with 1 stone stealing the WBO title in the process if he wins. And then he could avenge Donaire by defeating Santiago.
The chance is not that low for Gaballo to dominate the Bantamweight division. I think he can do it.

That's interesting. We might see Gaballo hyping his career, if fate permits him to win over Maloney.

His next journey might a money making fight for him, trying to add more belts under his name and the possibility to collect
all those available from this division may take place, something that the "Monster" Inoue left after moving up and earn another
belt in a different division. Still far to conclude as there's no update yet if Gaballo will be schedule to any title fight.

There's a vacant title, which is the IBF, and as we can see from the rankings at https://www.boxingscene.com/rankings, the top 3 boxers include only one Filipino. However, if we look at the WBO rankings, Reymart Gaballo is currently ranked number 1, which means he could be a challenger to Jason Moloney in a mandatory fight. Just imagine, if Reymart Gaballo secures the IBF belt, he can have a unification fight against any of the champions, and it's possible that he could become an undisputed champion, as none of the current champions are as strong as Inoue.

Bantamweight IBF Top 3 Boxers
Emmanuel Rodriguez
Melvin Lopez
Reymart Gaballo

^^ That's a solid 118 lbs champions list, so we will see how Santiago will have his name in the mix. It seems that the goal of boxers right now is to immediately unify all the belts.

I remember there was a time wherein when you become a champion, you will have to defend your belts successively and seldom fight to get the other belts or at least in the modern era 4 belts is not even the plan. But we have like Inoue, Crawford and Taylor and maybe there are others as well who have unified the title in the past. So its seems that we have seen the shape of 118 lbs already as we only have one organization that doesn't have a champion.

I am hoping he will lose, hehe... Because I want a Filipino champion to challenge and defeat him. Filipino boxers excel in the bantamweight division; we have a lot of fighters who could eventually become challengers if Santiago chooses to stay and defend his title.


He probably is thinking wisely because making a decision as he gets older is crucial. If he loses to Inoue and then to a less popular boxer, it might indicate that his time is already over, but this is just our personal opinion. Ultimately, he will be the one to make the final decision.

These are the current champions in the division.

Yes, I guess we have to move on now that Donaire has lost his chance to become a champion against Santiago. And with that, we can only hope that Santiago will not be a one hit wonder and will continue to defend his belts or unify it against different champions in this division.

So far we haven't heard anything about Donaire, maybe it's not yet sink into his mind that he let this one slip away. But give him a couple more days or even months at least at the end of the year and decide what will be his fate, whether to continue or not.

A great achievement, as he is now holding the belt and has that chance to unify it all. For sure, the value of his name was also
being hype and he can now earn more compared to his previous value.

Another plus factor is the name behind that win, Donaire even it's no longer in his prime, still a well-respected champ from this division.

Time to move on now. It's Santiagos' journey now while with Donaire. Chance, seeing him hanging his gloves, is his next possible decision.

His prediction is true because it is someone's normally, what happens is that much more attention is always paid to him because he is a man who is in the middle, he must know many more details than us as fans, it may be that he enters They get to know each other a little better and exchange messages from time to time, they know what their training style is like and they can even share details of how they can improve their technique, something like soccer players who have their numbers and everything, as far as Personally, I think that Donaire here with the prediction failed with everything because the Japanese is a man who, above all , has a lot of discipline and does things with more moderation, and his preparation is on another level.

I would like that one day Inoue could give away what a day of his training is like, it would be great to see him how he does it, I imagine that his exercises are quite strong and with many repetitions, it is something that I can only Imagine , because his training must be very well, he always ensures his fights and makes everything look very easy, that's what I admire most about Inoue, on the other hand I hope that Donaire finally seizes the Opportunity to fight and can give us a good demonstration of good boxing.

and Nonito:

Nonito Donaire weighs up future after world title loss to Alexandro Santiago




Source: https://www.ringnews24.com/2023/07/30/nonito-donaire-weighs-up-future-after-world-title-loss-to-alexandro-santiago/

The truth is something sad about Nonito , in particular I would have liked to see him win, but I think that Nonito has already lost a lot of shape, he has not trained as he is, it is Difficult for him now to ask for another fight.

Yes, really hard to see Donaire losing, actually he has a good chance, however, as the fight goes on, he is fading and I see that he could be losing this fight and let it slip away. But we will give credit to Santiago, they had a good game plan against Donaire and they executed it very well and even though he was caught with that left hand, it seems that Donaire's power is gone. And just like the rest of you guys say, maybe this fight is enough reason for him and Rachel to decide to quit and not fight again. He has done everything in his career and several times after his lost, we thought that he is done. However, losing back to back specially against Santiago, it doesn't look good for Donaire.