Topic: [Boxing] Nonito Donaire vs Alejandro Santiago for WBC bantamweight title - page 22. (Read 4429 times)

Perhaps they can make it happen somewhere in middle to late June where there is no huge fights happening in that month because the month of May is quite stacked already because in that same month, Canelo vs Ryder and Loma vs Haney will happen. July might be okay too but I don't think that the organizers will approve that month as in that same month Inoue vs Fulton bout will happen.

Forgive me if I may sound hasty, it's just that Donaire doesn't have that much time to wait and if they are planning to have another bout after this (considering that Donaire will win) then they should make it happen as soon as possible, so that Donaire can fight again early next year.

Thanks for correcting my typo. Things got mixed in my mind lol.

Agree with you. A possible 1-2 unification fight might have a chance for him if there will be no such thing as too much waiting for long between his next set of fights in the future. Time is running for him if the target is unifying all the belts. There might be also a chance that on the way, he will be mandated to a title defense. I also don't see him averaging 2 fights per year but hopefully, he will have a chance to get it.

Anyways, before we discuss Donaire having a unification fight in the future, he needs to win no matter what against Santiago as his first step. Losing one of his future fights is enough reason to retire. If he can't pass Santiago, which is below his rank and not even on the Top 5 rankings by the WBC, it means Donaire should bid goodbye now to his boxing career and call it "a good journey".

This is a great match for sure, both fighters have a pretty good record Alexandro Santiago came from a win against Antonio Nieves with a corner stoppage while Nonito Donaire lost to Naoya Inoue, pretty much Donaire got the height and reach advantage, against Alexandro Santiago Nonito Donaire also have the experience with those 49 bouts he has while Alexandro Santiago has 35, but surely Alexandro Santiago is only 27 years old while Nonito Donaire is now at 40 years old, and with that young age Santiago have already build up some nice fights and winnings this could be a hard fight for Donaire but his experience against the boxer Naoya Inoue is a real great experience and he could build that experience in winning in this fight,

Although there is no official announcement when will be the fight the WBC has already approves about this fight to happen for the vacant bantamweight title,

We cannot say they are delaying it because we have no idea when this fight will happen.

We are just speculating that it will happen this year, but until an official announcement has been made, we should not expect it to happen soon.

Promoters will ensure that they make money on this fight. We know that lower weight divisions don't attract crowds compared to higher weight divisions, so timing is very important to ensure that this will result in a win-win situation for both boxers and promoters of the fight.

There might be waiting for the right timing because if they happened to choose a date that will conflict with other star boxers, their earnings will not be that high. Anyway, this is not really a problem for them since they know what they're doing but the problem here is with the boxer because as much as they delayed it more, the chance for the boxers to get injured will increase and it will probably cost them much because the fight will gonna be canceled if that's gonna happen. They should also consider the age of Donaire, he has only a little time left they really need to rush this fight.

I don't know if Donaire is now serious about his training right as his fight with Santiago is still in limbo, not definite yet as they have not released a date. I tried to listen to his interview but the volume of his microphone was so slow that we could not understand what he was saying.

If only he is still with Top Rank, i think he could be a good co-main attraction to the Haney vs Loma fight this May 20 in Las Vegas  .

@inthelongrun, bai please decode what Donaire was saying in the video below, maybe you could read what words that came out of his mouth hehe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tvou14vNAt4&ab_channel=SALTPAPI

I understand why people are excited about the unification fight because most of us thought that Donaire would easily dispose of Santiago as his challenger. I can't wait to see this fight, but unfortunately, there is no specific date yet. Nevertheless, I am still optimistic that the event will happen this year.

Donaire is getting older, so he does not need to wait a long time to have a big fight. After winning, we may witness a unification fight.

You are right. I just realized that this fight still has no exact date and venue until now. I believe both Donaire and Santiago are now in their final few weeks of preparations. They were expected to have started their training camps in early March or even late February so this fight badly needs a venue and a May date ASAP.

I believe the issue here is Richard Schaefer's involvement with the Kinahans, a global Irish syndicate. Probellum already decided to shut operations earlier but later Schaefer was named as president of Anthem Sports which is expected to become the new promoter of Donaire. But there is also the tendency that Anthem Sports is having difficulty dealing with sponsors, venues, and television networks just like Bob Arum earlier shutting down the chances of working with Schaefer.

It's obvious that he is not getting any younger, and we all know that sooner or later his body and mind might not be able to cope with this brutal sports. So he should take advantage of the opportunity he has been given right now, to fight for the belt as this could be his last chance to become a world champion again.

As for unifying it, we shouldn't just jump on the bandwagon right now. It's better to see his performance against Santiago first and if he wins, then wait for the other body mandatory fight for the belt and see if he can cross over and fight that champion. Or defend the belt at least one more time.

Same here, I also think that Donaire is not getting any younger and every year pass will have a serious impact on his physical attribute.  We all know that once pass the prime, the performance deteriorates, it is whether the strength of the punch, the reflex or the speed and even resistance (wear and tear of a boxer) that are affected.

Anyway, as of now, all we can do is just assume since we are not the one who knows the status of Donaire's body, it is only him that knows whether he can continue or not. I hope Donaire will be smart enough to know when to stop.

We might be seeing the condition of Donaire this fight.  If he is able to finish his opponent without any problem then we can say that Donaire can still rock.

I agree, which is why he is pursuing even at his age now to become a world champion once again because he can't just leave the division mainly now that there's nobody dominating it. Without Inoue in the same division, he is surely the right boxer who should own it now but I'm just quite confused because they should've made an announcement this month regarding the details and the date of the fight.

I had the same thought that Donaire might be too late already to unify all the belts at 118 because time is not on his side anymore, even if we say 2 years from now, he will have successive wins on his fights, we all know that it's still not enough as there are other factors that will delay the time. And up until now, they haven't come up with a schedule so that means he wasting time again and then regarding his age, 2 fights per year will be his maximum.

Yeah, he still has one of the most lethal left hook, not just in this bantamweight, but all of boxing.

We've seen it in his prime, knocking a lot of great boxers during that time, and his timing is still impeccable at his age. No wonder that he was able to survived this long, because he has perfected everything and not just relying to his God giving talents. So let's wait, I'm also in agreement that he can still be a world champion in this division, maybe 2 belts the most. Time is running out for him though, this fight should be made this year and maybe defended it next year and later go for a unification fight which boxer is available.

Donaire really has that lethal hooks that this division is not capable of absorbing well. Donaire may be slower now but his chin is somewhat durable in this division and he has enough world-class experience to try to connect his deadly hooks in 12 rounds. I am confident Donaire will become champion again but I am not sure how long he can stay as champion knowing his age. Hopefully, 2 unification fights will happen so it only needs 1 more unification fight to determine the next undisputed champion. Otherwise, it will take years to collect all 4 belts to become undisputed.

By the way, it's 118 for bantamweight mate, 122 is 1 division above.

That's the obstacle as we know and we already see the effect of getting age from this sport. His movement is far different from his prime, though the combination of punches can still be performed, but his speed might not coordinate.

Though it's really slim to unify all the belts for that reason, as long as he is still standing and aiming to fight and win
we might see him accomplishing it. (just hoping though)

I agree, it will take 2 or 3 years at least for Donaire to unify all the title., that is if he will be able to beat his opponents.  Regardless of his physical condition, he still have to beat the title holders which we know is difficult since these fight will not just stand there and absorbs Donaire's punches.  Plus they are the champion because they are capable.  So it is not only that Donaire is aging but also his opponent is maturing and getting skilled.

Though it looks like the possibility of Donaire to unify all the title is slim, as one of his fans, I still wanted to see him hit that goal before he hang his gloves.

Nonito needed to fight in some fight to again attention to them. I'll wait for Jen na lang and be careful sa topic namin, ganyan gagawin namin because they needed to have a good shoe rack after ko magkaroon. Intense yung ganung feeling and they are really trusting you so much to smaller than the other people who joined to use and to give her comfort.

I'm not sure if there will be a chance for Donaire to still unify "all the belts" at 118 lbs providing his current age and status.

Just for the record, since Naoya Inoue vacated all his Bantamweight titles, only 1 vacant title is fulfilled at this point, the WBA that is now being held by Naoya's younger brother, Takuma Inoue, just this month. The vacant WBC title, which will be contested between Donaire and Santiago doesn't have any official date yet. The vacant IBF Bantamweight title between Emmanuel Rodriguez and Melvin Lopez also doesn't have any official date yet. For the vacant WBO Bantamweight title, Vincent Astrolabio and Jason Moloney will clash next month. In some cases, these champions will have a mandatory title defense first before having a unification fight.

As for Donaire, I think he might get a chance to unify at least 2 belts between the ages of 41-42. After that, if he still continues winning, I don't know if he will still continue his boxing career to pursue the other belts in that division.

Anyways, just a speculation of mine about the chances of Donaire unifying all the belts since he is now 40 years old. It's not that boxers can settle and deal a fight at least twice a year. Time is running for Donaire if the goal is unifying all the belts although no harm in trying and that will be a record-breaking if happened.

That is if the other belt holders are also interested mainly Jason Moloney (if he is successful for the vacant WBO belt) because we know that if that happens, he might buy some time so that he cannot face Nonito Donaire even if he's already old enough. He just can't take the risk to have another possible defeat again after the failed chase against Inoue because with Nonito Donaire on the same weight class, that will mean that his chance to own every available belt is much lower.

Correct. It's difficult to find an update about this upcoming fight. Mostly, are Philippines news outlets that are making articles about it, not international ones. According to box live it will happen in the Summer of 2023 which is June, July, or August but I think it will be in August because they are not aggressive yet at providing news to market this fight.
Maybe we will find it out in May, or worst, the last week of it before they could finalize the actual event place and the exact date on when they will face each other.
Even the social media pages of Nonito Donaire have no updates about it. But this will really happen because it's according to the WBC president when interviewed.