Topic: [Boxing] Nonito Donaire vs Alejandro Santiago for WBC bantamweight title - page 25. (Read 4409 times)

Last time was Manny Pacquiao. I think he can bring his power to 122 lbs, the question is how the natural 122 lbs like Fulton will absorb his power. Although there's not much of a different as far as weight goes, but mostly natural and bigger fighter shows good power absorption. That's why when Manny for example move up in weight, he was not able to knockout the bigger guys in the weight class that he is moving up. But we shall see, this is Inoue's first fight at super bantamweight and so we don't know that to expect from him as far as power and speed as well. Or even his chin as well, if it can hold against the power of Fulton.

Right but enough for Inoue vs Fulton because this thread is dedicated to discuss the upcoming fight of Nonito Donaire against Alejandro Santiago for the vacant WBC belt.
Regarding the said fight, I'm optimistic that they can announce a timeline before this month ends and that both camps are already having their conversation to materialize the fight because I clearly don't believe that Santiago will also back out because this is the best chance that he can receive a fight like this considering that he is a few more ranks away from the eligible boxers.

Let's see about that. But I believe Inoue can bring his prowess at super-bantam because if we look at it closely, the weight difference is not that much and most probably, 122 is Inoue's natural weight class because at 118 he needed to trim some of his weights just to suit the weight class but there's no problem about it. And so, in this division, I'm pretty much confident that Inoue can dominate 122. It's been quite a while since an Asian boxer dominated several weight classes.

Yes, Inoue already proved enough that there's nobody at 118 that can be a threat to his throne that needed to be eliminated and it's safe to say that he already swept the good calibers at 118 that's why he climbed to the next weight class to see for himself if he can still dominate the division that is just few pounds away from 118.

And for Donaire's journey, he could've settled this fight already if the Jason Moloney didn't backed out from the mandatory fight. He's the one who should've received something like a punishment because it's a mandatory fight and nobody can back away from it but Moloney did a safe route and found another vacant belt.

We can blame it on the organization, yeah why not, but they should anticipated that Inoue will go up in weight class. Although they have sanctioned fights already for this year, but nothing has yet to materialized.

Just like what we have been expecting this fight, it's been months and no official word from the WBC or even from the boxers themselves.

I don't think they will have to wait for Gaballo's title eliminator. On the contrary, it should be the championship fight that needs to happen first so that they will have a official champion in their rankings.

He can do that much though, I doubt that he can go as high as 147 lbs. Inoue will be biting too much if he goes to 126 lbs to 130. So for now, I don't see any comparisons to Manny. There's only one Manny Pacquiao in our generation.


He has a full plate in front of him and that is Fulton is June. Fulton is a great champion and the natural 122 lbs boxer. So we don't know if Inoue can adjust and bring his power to this new division. Although he has been given the greenlight to fight for the belt in his first fight in this weight class because of what he achieved in the bantamweight division.

They can do that as it cannot be denied that Inoue is truly an exceptional fighter. However, they need to understand that time is running out, so they should always aim for a championship fight first and then move up after a win. The chance of Inoue becoming like Pacquiao is decent, given his power and speed, but he still needs to be tested.

In my opinion, I'm seeing that Inoue's camp is trying to achieve what Manny had accomplished, or they wanted to have more to be one of the best fighter in his era.

Yeah, fans will love a kind of fighter who is not afraid of taking any difficult challenges and with how
Inoue showing his aggressions to continue his journey to another level of competitions for sure he will
be praised and continue to be loved while still fighting.

We will see, but the hype is very high for Inoue dominating the current division. Hopefully, we will not be disappointed in his coming performance. A dominant boxer would always bring joy to the fans, especially if that boxer is not afraid of taking on challengers, just like what Manny did. Maybe we will see someone like him in the future, or maybe it will be Inoue.

If anything the boxing associations are at fault, this is not the first or the last time a boxer will unify all the titles in a single division and then move to another division, just on the last two years this happened three times with Canelo, Usyk and Inoue, Usyk was successful and remained at the heavyweight division, Canelo lost but most likely will make another attempt soon, and we still do not know how Inoue will do on his current division as he is yet to fight Fulton.

After unifying all the belts, he just jumped up and vacant the titles. Now we see those possible upcoming fights and we might see more, but moving forward with this said upcoming fight of Donaire.

There's no update yet and there're no hypes and interest that can pull the trigger to push the date
to happen. We are just waiting and hoping that it will take place.

what is very strange about all this is that from the 15th of february to the 28th of february the news channels and even the youtube channels have not talked about this fight since they talked about this fight, knowing that the marketing agents of these fighters are a true genius in the arts of publicity and they don't let this type of event go unnoticed, they would already be doing a big publicity campaign about this fight even if it still didn't have a specific date, but then I wonder why the agents of marketing of these fighters still haven't moved?

this means that if they still haven't said anything about the dates of the fight then the date could be many months from now, something like 4 or 5 months from now, if they were going to fight earlier like in may or june or july they would have already spoken and already would be doing a publicity campaign around this fight, anyway we just have to wait for the fight to happen, but it won't be something that will happen anytime soon, everyone likes to win money and titles and fights, that's why they do everything everything to have fights sooner, but when you're facing an undated fight then it won't be something that will happen so soon

when I see that there are already days and months that they will fight that will be when I will really believe that the fight will happen and then I will worry about finding out more about the two fighters and the possibility of placing a bet and which fighter I will bet on, for now I see this fight as something that is only on paper, something that is just a plan and has nothing concrete in practice, even on the prediction sites that I tried to search I did not find anything about a prediction of who could win this fight, there is nothing more about this fight.

I might not go with that statement mate because we cannot just compare Manny Pacquiao's footsteps with Santiago's footstep because the latter has nothing in comparison with the Filipino legend. I mean, look at his records, Manny Pacquiao surely didn't have that when he was still climbing from flyweight up to bantamweight, at that time, he already got a lot of recognition and was known already in the industry unlike Santiago now who is still fighting to earn himself a place in the division.

I'm talking about when Inoue vacated, so there is a power vacuum being left as a result of that. So obviously all 4 belts are available, and there are fight like this being ordered by WBC, although initially it should have been Moloney vs Casimero. And then Moloney decided not to fight Donaire, jump ship to WBO and now he is fighting for the belt.

And there are title eliminators too if I'm not mistaken with Gaballo and others. Now, we even don't have the date for this said fight. It was ordered months ago, but so far no official date. So right now we don't know what is happening and there could be some changes, who knows.

So that is the mess that Inoue created, everyone wanted to have the title. Governing bodies are scrambling to fill up that open space.

As stated by the earlier reply, I believe promoters are looking for a good timing to schedule the fight since there are more excited matches in the month ahead.  It may incur  a loss if the schedule of the fight get in sync with other matches that is more interesting.


I agree, it would be disadvantageous for Donaire if the match takes long to schedule.  Donaire's performance may be affected when old age takes a toll on him.

What? How Inoue created this mess? In the first place, he already achieved all things that were needed in the bantamweight division and it just makes sense for him to move up. No need to stay in the 122 division.

It's Jason Moloney who created this mess because he backed off this fight.

It's just that there's no official date released but it's not a problem. We just need to wait.

Maybe after the fight between Reymart Gaballo and Nawaphon Kaikanh in May, we can expect that the WBC will now formally announce the details of the fight between Nonito Donaire and Alejandro Santiago for the vacant WBC Bantamweight title.

I assumed that because the winner between Reymart Gaballo and Nawaphon Kaikanh will be the contender for the winner between Nonito Donaire vs Alejandro Santiago. Let's wait until next month after the Gaballo and Kaikanh match if there will be any information about the Donaire vs Santiago fight.

Perhaps it was due to the issue with Richard Schaefer, Donaire was used to be under Probellum and Richard, but then Richard bolted out of Probellum and work on another outfit, he did bring Donaire though with him. So most likely, Richard as a manager needs to do it in scratch as he is no longer with Probellum, just my hint.

Yeah, this championship fight needs to happen, and so is the other sanctioning body's championship and eliminator. The Inoue going up in weight created this kind of mess.

Yes, we all know that it has been approved, but same question, why is there a delay? this fight should have at least a date already, what keeps the fighters and their promoters from announcing the fight officially?

And you might be right, as the day passes by, Donaire might loss sometime, I mean he is not getting any younger, LOL, you can even see his hairline already at his age of 40 years old. This should be made at least June or July so that Donaire will not have any ring rust.

I think the reason they delaying this fight is the huge list of exciting fights coming next month and maybe after that, they will finally put a schedule on this one. There's no way that they will further delay it because the more the days go by, the more Donaire is heading towards retirement soon and he thinks he can still go for 2 or 3 fights after this one, so they really need to make a schedule as soon as possible in order for Donaire to still showcase his boxing skills in this era.