Topic: [Boxing] Nonito Donaire vs Alejandro Santiago for WBC bantamweight title - page 19. (Read 4413 times)

Now sure who Doc J, is he something famous in the Philippines? I will have to research more about this guy.

I'm not sure who this person is either. When searching on Google, "Julius Erving" appears, so it's possible that the person you're referring to might not be widely known. However, someone who is active in the Philippine boxing community on social media, like @bisdak40, might have more information about this individual.

Lol, Doc J is just an ordinary person here in Cebu City and he is a trainer in the Omega Gym but maybe he is also a doctor by profession (not sure though).

I initially thought that he is a renowned trainer, but it seems he is just from Cebu City. But anything that Donaire can get while in the Philippines, it will be good for him.

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I did some research guys on who is this Alexandro Barrios is and it turns out that Alejandro Santiago and Alexandro Barrios is just one person hehe, his full name is "Agustín Alexandro Santiago Barrios" so there no change in opponent for Donaire guys, maybe they are just waiting for something but the good thing is that Donaire is keeping himself in shape even though the schedule is not definite yet.

Donaire though looks in shape. I mean it's probably those genes from Asian people wherein they can still eat what they want and not gain weight because of their metabolism. And probably it will help Donaire as well if his weight will be in control during off-season and then when he start training again, hard training, then there will be no problem on his weight.

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So they really be pushing for this, as we have been discussing, age is a big factor for Nonito. Admit it or not, he is aging and at 40 years olds, should not be fighter anymore because their could be health concerns in the future.

Yup, at his age there are many possible complications, which he needed to consider,

Though I can also see that it's more about the passion that he wanted to pursue, having the belt back plus the consideration that
he will earn decently as he's on the A-side and possible to have bigger cut with the possible profits.

We will just wait for any updates and any announcement that will be provided by either from both camps or from the
promoters to start promoting the possible date of these upcoming fights.

Apparently, up until now, both camps are still on the talks to make this fight in reality.

I don't know what is up but there should be no hurdles along the way because this fight is not that big and Nonito Donaire is just picking boxers down the line because the higher ups are already having their own respective fights in other vacated belts.

It seems to me the Santiago is buying some time because he knows that the more he can buy some time, the more his chances to upset the favorite. I mean, we cannot blame these boxers to take an easier path because becoming a champion really got some perks.

It that is the case, and then WBC should go and get the next high rank boxers in their organization to face Nonito for the vacate belt. No need to stall this fight in his part, he will have equal chances to win the vacated belt so it doesn't make sense for him and his camp to act like that.

And on the contrary, it will be a honor for Santiago to face the legendary Nonito for the title.

It's like 3 months already, taking this long as I have said might have a negative effect on Donaire.

That confrontation doesn't seem bad to me, I don't know if it's my perception or I'm too paranoid, but I see that maybe they don't want to give Donaire opponents, I don't know, but it could be because of his age or because maybe they already did the marketing study and They realized that with Donaire they won't raise as much money and they don't know how to delay everything, that may be happening, and taking into consideration that now boxing has become pure money and little sport is very likely, of course this is my speculation , it may be that I am wrong, but it could be that something like this was happening.

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Quote from: Vaculin on May 18, 2023, 01:55:19 PM

Now sure who Doc J, is he something famous in the Philippines? I will have to research more about this guy.

I'm not sure who this person is either. When searching on Google, "Julius Erving" appears, so it's possible that the person you're referring to might not be widely known. However, someone who is active in the Philippine boxing community on social media, like @bisdak40, might have more information about this individual.

Lol, Doc J is just an ordinary person here in Cebu City and he is a trainer in the Omega Gym but maybe he is also a doctor by profession (not sure though).

I did some research guys on who is this Alexandro Barrios is and it turns out that Alejandro Santiago and Alexandro Barrios is just one person hehe, his full name is "Agustín Alexandro Santiago Barrios" so there no change in opponent for Donaire guys, maybe they are just waiting for something but the good thing is that Donaire is keeping himself in shape even though the schedule is not definite yet.

It's just weird because I honestly thought that Doc J is somehow famous in the Philippines because why would he be in a headline for helping Donaire if he's just a nobody. Curious enough to know who he is, I looked him up and there is nothing that is connected to a Doctor J in Ph.

Anyway, thanks for clarifying the situation for us @bisdak. If not because of you, we will have plenty of questions that will remain unanswered and funny enough, we will expect that this Alexandro Barrios is the new opponent when in-fact we are just talking for the same person.

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Well, at least, we now have some better news after a long drought of having no updates. I personally agree that it doesn't matter anymore who will he fight this year as long as it will produce him a fight that is connected to the vacant WBC belt, whoever he is, I know that Donaire still got the upper hand because looking at the bantamweight right now, I think Moloney will be his biggest foe as the likes of Casimero and Inoue have already left the division.

In terms of advantage, I agree that Donaire still has the upper hand,

He's still the favorite to win and earn the belt back, but knowing this sport and how the outcome may be, upset can happen if the opponent will train hard and will prepare the right way while waiting for the date of the fight, though both camps still have the time and maybe the negotiations are now ongoing as Donaire is preparing to make sure that his body still in good condition before the fight night.

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Now sure who Doc J, is he something famous in the Philippines? I will have to research more about this guy.

I'm not sure who this person is either. When searching on Google, "Julius Erving" appears, so it's possible that the person you're referring to might not be widely known. However, someone who is active in the Philippine boxing community on social media, like @bisdak40, might have more information about this individual.

Lol, Doc J is just an ordinary person here in Cebu City and he is a trainer in the Omega Gym but maybe he is also a doctor by profession (not sure though).

I did some research guys on who is this Alexandro Barrios is and it turns out that Alejandro Santiago and Alexandro Barrios is just one person hehe, his full name is "Agustín Alexandro Santiago Barrios" so there no change in opponent for Donaire guys, maybe they are just waiting for something but the good thing is that Donaire is keeping himself in shape even though the schedule is not definite yet.

OK, it's clear now, so it's just the same person, I also confused about it because I can't find that name in Boxrec or even in the rankings of WBC. LOL, I thought too that it was Julius Erving the basketball legend. But perhaps he is just local in Cebu and could have been a good doctor/trainer for Donaire while he was in the Philippines to keep his body stay in shape since the fight might happen in the next quarter of the year.

So again, still a waiting game for us, someone mentions July? Hopefully that will be the date that we can finally see this fight so that we will have a chance to see Donaire being a champion again.

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Now sure who Doc J, is he something famous in the Philippines? I will have to research more about this guy.

I'm not sure who this person is either. When searching on Google, "Julius Erving" appears, so it's possible that the person you're referring to might not be widely known. However, someone who is active in the Philippine boxing community on social media, like @bisdak40, might have more information about this individual.

Lol, Doc J is just an ordinary person here in Cebu City and he is a trainer in the Omega Gym but maybe he is also a doctor by profession (not sure though).

I did some research guys on who is this Alexandro Barrios is and it turns out that Alejandro Santiago and Alexandro Barrios is just one person hehe, his full name is "Agustín Alexandro Santiago Barrios" so there no change in opponent for Donaire guys, maybe they are just waiting for something but the good thing is that Donaire is keeping himself in shape even though the schedule is not definite yet.

He needs to stay in shape all the time because he is not getting any younger, so he requires more training than a younger fighter. Alejandro Santiago is still young at 27 years old, so we can expect that he has the advantage if this fight reaches 12 rounds. And since this is a championship fight, it will likely be held in the USA. Therefore, Inoue will also have to train in the USA, as the climate is different from that of the Philippines.

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I'm seeing that if this fight is not going to be made, then maybe we will not see this happening this year and it might be too late for Donaire, in my opinion. Just a year added to Donaire's age might be huge.

Just saw a newsfeed in my social media account stating that a trainer of a gym in Cebu City is helping Donaire train for his upcoming fights, so i think that Donaire will be fighting this year but what caught my attention on that news (though not official) is that Donaire will be fighting Alexandro Barrios and not Alejandro Santiago whom we are speculating that the Filipino Flash will be fighting, that maybe the reason on the delay of the fight of Donaire as WBC might be shopping for his new opponent.

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Doc J is helping Nonito Donaire Jr. prepare for his upcoming WBC bantamweight championship fight against Alexandro Barrios

Oh that's good news for us. Finally a sigh of relief for us because we haven't heard any thing from Donaire's camp regarding this world title bid again. And it is said that the fight will happen in July, so let's wait and see.

Barrios is rank number 4 in their rankings, so yeah, it make sense that the WBC will order this fight.

But if I'm not mistaken, they also ordered Reymart Gaballo vs Nawaphon Sor. Rungvisai and the winner fighting the winner of Donaire and Barrios.

And so there is no change of opponents, I also thought that this is a new one for Donaire, but it takes out to be some misunderstanding with the name.

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Now sure who Doc J, is he something famous in the Philippines? I will have to research more about this guy.

I'm not sure who this person is either. When searching on Google, "Julius Erving" appears, so it's possible that the person you're referring to might not be widely known. However, someone who is active in the Philippine boxing community on social media, like @bisdak40, might have more information about this individual.

Lol, Doc J is just an ordinary person here in Cebu City and he is a trainer in the Omega Gym but maybe he is also a doctor by profession (not sure though).

I did some research guys on who is this Alexandro Barrios is and it turns out that Alejandro Santiago and Alexandro Barrios is just one person hehe, his full name is "Agustín Alexandro Santiago Barrios" so there no change in opponent for Donaire guys, maybe they are just waiting for something but the good thing is that Donaire is keeping himself in shape even though the schedule is not definite yet.

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Now sure who Doc J, is he something famous in the Philippines? I will have to research more about this guy.

I'm not sure who this person is either. When searching on Google, "Julius Erving" appears, so it's possible that the person you're referring to might not be widely known. However, someone who is active in the Philippine boxing community on social media, like @bisdak40, might have more information about this individual.

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Quote from: btc_angela on May 16, 2023, 04:59:04 PM

I'm seeing that if this fight is not going to be made, then maybe we will not see this happening this year and it might be too late for Donaire, in my opinion. Just a year added to Donaire's age might be huge.

Just saw a newsfeed in my social media account stating that a trainer of a gym in Cebu City is helping Donaire train for his upcoming fights, so i think that Donaire will be fighting this year but what caught my attention on that news (though not official) is that Donaire will be fighting Alexandro Barrios and not Alejandro Santiago whom we are speculating that the Filipino Flash will be fighting, that maybe the reason on the delay of the fight of Donaire as WBC might be shopping for his new opponent.

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Doc J is helping Nonito Donaire Jr. prepare for his upcoming WBC bantamweight championship fight against Alexandro Barrios

Thanks for this news, at least this could be the reason why the fight is stalling at this point, maybe Santiago pull out of the fight and so the WBC will have to look for someone to replace him.

So Donaire is still in Philippines? that's good to know, at least he is going back to his grassroots and most likely training some upcoming fighters or giving them motivation.

Now sure who Doc J, is he something famous in the Philippines? I will have to research more about this guy.

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I'm seeing that if this fight is not going to be made, then maybe we will not see this happening this year and it might be too late for Donaire, in my opinion. Just a year added to Donaire's age might be huge.

Just saw a newsfeed in my social media account stating that a trainer of a gym in Cebu City is helping Donaire train for his upcoming fights, so i think that Donaire will be fighting this year but what caught my attention on that news (though not official) is that Donaire will be fighting Alexandro Barrios and not Alejandro Santiago whom we are speculating that the Filipino Flash will be fighting, that maybe the reason on the delay of the fight of Donaire as WBC might be shopping for his new opponent.

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Doc J is helping Nonito Donaire Jr. prepare for his upcoming WBC bantamweight championship fight against Alexandro Barrios

That's great news! It adds some hope to the possibility of Donaire being able to fight this year. Regardless of who his opponent is, what's important is that he will have the opportunity to fight. We know he is not getting any younger, and if he successfully wins a championship, I believe Donaire will become more aggressive in challenging other champions to become a unified champion. The only boxer who has defeated him in this division has already moved up, so there's no one to hinder his path. However, as I mentioned, he needs to act quickly.

Yeah, It's better to know that he's preparing now, and that's simply saying that the fight will happen.

Let's see if there's any available update in coming days or months after seeing that Donaire is starting his conditioning training and we will going to find out if who will be the opponent between Barrios and Santiago as the OP's title might be change if the confirmation will be against Barrios and for sure Donaire will bring something to this fight to continue entertaining his fans and all those people who are hoping for him to bring the belt back.

Well, at least, we now have some better news after a long drought of having no updates. I personally agree that it doesn't matter anymore who will he fight this year as long as it will produce him a fight that is connected to the vacant WBC belt, whoever he is, I know that Donaire still got the upper hand because looking at the bantamweight right now, I think Moloney will be his biggest foe as the likes of Casimero and Inoue have already left the division.

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I'm seeing that if this fight is not going to be made, then maybe we will not see this happening this year and it might be too late for Donaire, in my opinion. Just a year added to Donaire's age might be huge.

Just saw a newsfeed in my social media account stating that a trainer of a gym in Cebu City is helping Donaire train for his upcoming fights, so i think that Donaire will be fighting this year but what caught my attention on that news (though not official) is that Donaire will be fighting Alexandro Barrios and not Alejandro Santiago whom we are speculating that the Filipino Flash will be fighting, that maybe the reason on the delay of the fight of Donaire as WBC might be shopping for his new opponent.

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Doc J is helping Nonito Donaire Jr. prepare for his upcoming WBC bantamweight championship fight against Alexandro Barrios

That's great news! It adds some hope to the possibility of Donaire being able to fight this year. Regardless of who his opponent is, what's important is that he will have the opportunity to fight. We know he is not getting any younger, and if he successfully wins a championship, I believe Donaire will become more aggressive in challenging other champions to become a unified champion. The only boxer who has defeated him in this division has already moved up, so there's no one to hinder his path. However, as I mentioned, he needs to act quickly.

Yeah, It's better to know that he's preparing now, and that's simply saying that the fight will happen.

Let's see if there's any available update in coming days or months after seeing that Donaire is starting his conditioning training and we will going to find out if who will be the opponent between Barrios and Santiago as the OP's title might be change if the confirmation will be against Barrios and for sure Donaire will bring something to this fight to continue entertaining his fans and all those people who are hoping for him to bring the belt back.

Whoever player that fight against the veteran Nonito Donaire Then I still support my fellow countrymen and we are all known that donaire is one of the veteran boxers in the world of boxing. He is a champ. And we will prove us his upcoming fight Fight that age doesn't matter even though he is old but still he can fight younger opponent he can still win the fight because his experience will speak that Old but the moves and technique is like he is still in young age.

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I'm seeing that if this fight is not going to be made, then maybe we will not see this happening this year and it might be too late for Donaire, in my opinion. Just a year added to Donaire's age might be huge.

Just saw a newsfeed in my social media account stating that a trainer of a gym in Cebu City is helping Donaire train for his upcoming fights, so i think that Donaire will be fighting this year but what caught my attention on that news (though not official) is that Donaire will be fighting Alexandro Barrios and not Alejandro Santiago whom we are speculating that the Filipino Flash will be fighting, that maybe the reason on the delay of the fight of Donaire as WBC might be shopping for his new opponent.

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Doc J is helping Nonito Donaire Jr. prepare for his upcoming WBC bantamweight championship fight against Alexandro Barrios

That's great news! It adds some hope to the possibility of Donaire being able to fight this year. Regardless of who his opponent is, what's important is that he will have the opportunity to fight. We know he is not getting any younger, and if he successfully wins a championship, I believe Donaire will become more aggressive in challenging other champions to become a unified champion. The only boxer who has defeated him in this division has already moved up, so there's no one to hinder his path. However, as I mentioned, he needs to act quickly.

Yeah, It's better to know that he's preparing now, and that's simply saying that the fight will happen.

Let's see if there's any available update in coming days or months after seeing that Donaire is starting his conditioning training and we will going to find out if who will be the opponent between Barrios and Santiago as the OP's title might be change if the confirmation will be against Barrios and for sure Donaire will bring something to this fight to continue entertaining his fans and all those people who are hoping for him to bring the belt back.

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