[Boxing] Nonito Donaire vs Reymart Gaballo (WBC bantamweight) - page 30.

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The only way Donaire would win here is via knockout because if the fight goes the full 12 rounds chances are Donaire would gas out and Gaballo might take over in the championship rounds. So with that being said my bet is Donaire via KO, I hope the odds are attractive for this market.

Donaire is hitting with his age effect and fighting 12 rounds is already exhausting to him. It's difficult to gather points while stamina is depleting.
A knockout win for Donaire should be the key to win the fight. When they are both tired, Gaballo seems to have an advantage as he's currently in his prime and can manage to last 12 rounds with no problem with stamina.
Unless Donaire will school and show Gaballo what's the meaning of being a multi-champion and a titleholder.

And now being a veteran. Grin

Will it be the time to pass the torch or will Donaire prove he can still fight and there still so much strength in his body to pursue for high rank boxers like Inoue for a rematch.
In the end, it's not really a loss for Donaire. He already proved a lot to the Filipino people and he will be kept in our hearts with pride. But that rematch should really happen before he retires. It's a UD which is not fun since both are known for a mass number of KO's, it will be more exciting if it will end with a sleep.

The guy is already 38 and he is aging fast. In this fight as well as all the fights he takes before his retirements, he has to try to win with a KO. Otherwise, his opponents will try to play a bit passive and try to lengthen the matches because he will get exhausted as the age will get the better of him. And winning against an exhausting Donaire will be easier for Gaballo. His retirement is very near, maybe 1 or 2 more matches till that.

Cant really deny that age would really a big factor when it comes to fight outcomes its true that it might be part of the strategy that they would lengthen up the fight
because speaking of stamina of Donaire then we have seen it already on previous fight with Inoue and im sure that they arent blind on not to see those kind of
opportunities which they could really take out some advantage but the question is, how they would able to last it long? Impossible that you wont really get
any hit or counterpunches. Cheesy

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Quote from: danherbias07 on October 01, 2021, 10:51:22 AM

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The only way Donaire would win here is via knockout because if the fight goes the full 12 rounds chances are Donaire would gas out and Gaballo might take over in the championship rounds. So with that being said my bet is Donaire via KO, I hope the odds are attractive for this market.

Donaire is hitting with his age effect and fighting 12 rounds is already exhausting to him. It's difficult to gather points while stamina is depleting.
A knockout win for Donaire should be the key to win the fight. When they are both tired, Gaballo seems to have an advantage as he's currently in his prime and can manage to last 12 rounds with no problem with stamina.
Unless Donaire will school and show Gaballo what's the meaning of being a multi-champion and a titleholder.

And now being a veteran. Grin

Will it be the time to pass the torch or will Donaire prove he can still fight and there still so much strength in his body to pursue for high rank boxers like Inoue for a rematch.
In the end, it's not really a loss for Donaire. He already proved a lot to the Filipino people and he will be kept in our hearts with pride. But that rematch should really happen before he retires. It's a UD which is not fun since both are known for a mass number of KO's, it will be more exciting if it will end with a sleep.

The guy is already 38 and he is aging fast. In this fight as well as all the fights he takes before his retirements, he has to try to win with a KO. Otherwise, his opponents will try to play a bit passive and try to lengthen the matches because he will get exhausted as the age will get the better of him. And winning against an exhausting Donaire will be easier for Gaballo. His retirement is very near, maybe 1 or 2 more matches till that.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on October 01, 2021, 10:51:22 AM

And now being a veteran. Grin

Will it be the time to pass the torch or will Donaire prove he can still fight and there still so much strength in his body to pursue for high rank boxers like Inoue for a rematch.
In the end, it's not really a loss for Donaire. He already proved a lot to the Filipino people and he will be kept in our hearts with pride. But that rematch should really happen before he retires. It's a UD which is not fun since both are known for a mass number of KO's, it will be more exciting if it will end with a sleep.

Even he's near from his retirement, as Pacman already did, I also agree that the rematch should happen. UD and Donaire almost win that fight. If only he didn't take that long rest and continue fighting, he might have the stamina that he needs to knock down Inoue.

I'm not saying that he's not that prepared, but we all know that he takes a long vacation and his comeback fight is with Inoue right away.

If they just take it slowly and fight other boxers first before taking Inoue, maybe, just maybe, his skills and abilities will be enhance more and his readiness to face this young Inoue is more interesting.

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Quote from: agustina2 on September 30, 2021, 05:20:58 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 30, 2021, 05:14:35 PM

The only way Donaire would win here is via knockout because if the fight goes the full 12 rounds chances are Donaire would gas out and Gaballo might take over in the championship rounds. So with that being said my bet is Donaire via KO, I hope the odds are attractive for this market.

Donaire is hitting with his age effect and fighting 12 rounds is already exhausting to him. It's difficult to gather points while stamina is depleting.

A knockout win for Donaire should be the key to win the fight. When they are both tired, Gaballo seems to have an advantage as he's currently in his prime and can manage to last 12 rounds with no problem with stamina.

Unless Donaire will school and show Gaballo what's the meaning of being a multi-champion and a titleholder.

And now being a veteran. Grin

Will it be the time to pass the torch or will Donaire prove he can still fight and there still so much strength in his body to pursue for high rank boxers like Inoue for a rematch.
In the end, it's not really a loss for Donaire. He already proved a lot to the Filipino people and he will be kept in our hearts with pride. But that rematch should really happen before he retires. It's a UD which is not fun since both are known for a mass number of KO's, it will be more exciting if it will end with a sleep.

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Donaire is nearing to to His prime and i think in a matter of time he might decide to but of course the main reason why he don't wanna do this is because still wanted to rematch against Inoue in which will surely a big fight to happen.
This is one of the best game ever to happen as Donaire is a best fighter after Manny Pacquiao , while Gaballo is one of the toughest Boxer of these days now.

Only a champion could retire Donaire and I don't think he will have a hard time beating Gaballo in this fight knowing this kid does not play good defense. The left hook and the counter punch of Donaire is so effective to an opponent that is aggressive and does not play defense, so Gaballo better watch out.

But Gaballo is undefeated, that's another thing that would still make Gaballo confident in this fight.

You know, Gaballo knows that if he beats Donaire, it will raise him up to have big fights in the future, like a chance of fighting Inoue or his fellow countryman Casimero. Of course, that's just one of the scenarios (least likely to happen) but it's possible since Gaballo would also train hard to win and achieve his ultimate goal to become a champion in this division.

Such opportunities give him the determinations to do all the best that he have beating Donaire.

It's good since both fighters are really eager to win, we might expect very decent fight, maybe change in their fighting style to make

Sure that every movement is carefully being executed. Donaire, though, is a well-known observer. He will quietly observe and assess if
what kind of adjustment he needed to win the fight.

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Donaire is nearing to to His prime and i think in a matter of time he might decide to but of course the main reason why he don't wanna do this is because still wanted to rematch against Inoue in which will surely a big fight to happen.
This is one of the best game ever to happen as Donaire is a best fighter after Manny Pacquiao , while Gaballo is one of the toughest Boxer of these days now.

Only a champion could retire Donaire and I don't think he will have a hard time beating Gaballo in this fight knowing this kid does not play good defense. The left hook and the counter punch of Donaire is so effective to an opponent that is aggressive and does not play defense, so Gaballo better watch out.

We cannot assure that Donaire will have a advantage on this fight and if we take a basis on last fight of Pacquaio which many or shall we say majority think that its an easy fight for him but turns out that Ugas dominate Manny at that fight. So the same on this and we cannot expect anything huge as Donaire is not same as before but let see if he can still defeat these guys and maybe he will get the fight against Inoue if he can show to the world that he's prime is not yet fading.

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Quote from: Finestream on October 01, 2021, 12:10:05 AM

Quote from: peter0425 on September 30, 2021, 11:51:37 PM

Donaire is nearing to to His prime and i think in a matter of time he might decide to but of course the main reason why he don't wanna do this is because still wanted to rematch against Inoue in which will surely a big fight to happen.
This is one of the best game ever to happen as Donaire is a best fighter after Manny Pacquiao , while Gaballo is one of the toughest Boxer of these days now.

Only a champion could retire Donaire and I don't think he will have a hard time beating Gaballo in this fight knowing this kid does not play good defense. The left hook and the counter punch of Donaire is so effective to an opponent that is aggressive and does not play defense, so Gaballo better watch out.

But Gaballo is undefeated, that's another thing that would still make Gaballo confident in this fight.

You know, Gaballo knows that if he beats Donaire, it will raise him up to have big fights in the future, like a chance of fighting Inoue or his fellow countryman Casimero. Of course, that's just one of the scenarios (least likely to happen) but it's possible since Gaballo would also train hard to win and achieve his ultimate goal to become a champion in this division.

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Quote from: peter0425 on September 30, 2021, 11:51:37 PM

Donaire is nearing to to His prime and i think in a matter of time he might decide to but of course the main reason why he don't wanna do this is because still wanted to rematch against Inoue in which will surely a big fight to happen.
This is one of the best game ever to happen as Donaire is a best fighter after Manny Pacquiao , while Gaballo is one of the toughest Boxer of these days now.

Only a champion could retire Donaire and I don't think he will have a hard time beating Gaballo in this fight knowing this kid does not play good defense. The left hook and the counter punch of Donaire is so effective to an opponent that is aggressive and does not play defense, so Gaballo better watch out.

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Donaire is nearing to to His prime and i think in a matter of time he might decide to but of course the main reason why he don't wanna do this is because still wanted to rematch against Inoue in which will surely a big fight to happen.
This is one of the best game ever to happen as Donaire is a best fighter after Manny Pacquiao , while Gaballo is one of the toughest Boxer of these days now.

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IMO, it's not really a huge fight, although Gaballo is younger and undefeated the quality of opponent Donaire beat is higher than what Gaballo had beaten, it's a big test for Gaballo but for Donaire, it should be an ordinary day in the office comes the day of the fight.

While I agree that Donaire is without a doubt the best of the two and this must be reflected in the odds about who should win the fight, at the same time I do not think it is healthy for him to have the attitude that since he has beaten better fighters in the past then he's going to beat his current opponent with ease and that there is nothing to worry about, we have seen that attitude many times in the past and it never ends well, boxers need to take seriously their opponents because only one punch is needed to change the outcome of any fight.

I'm not sure how come that Donaire is the Best here? AFAIK Gaballo has a Good record between them though Donaire is the most popular.

I'm sure that Donaire will have tough event in this fight .

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And obviously, it could be a win by Donaire again, I'm not underestimating Gaballo here but I see his weakness when he fought Rodriguez, he is not accurate with his punches so he might get KO by Donaire here who is only waiting for the right timing.

Gaballo has a lot to learn, relying on power alone is not gonna work against a veteran champion.

Experience-wise, Gaballo still has more food to eat. Donaire's experience is his advantage in that fight. But in my own view, I'm looking the other way.

I see Gaballo will be more pumped at that fight as just imagining what will happen next if he wins is already exciting to think. If by any chance that he defeat Donaire, more recognition will be given to him and a possible a much better contract deal compare to his usual. He will also climb the ranking making an opportunity to fight at those on higher rankings. That's an opportunity that every boxer wants.

Not favoring between one of them who will win. They are both PH boxers so regardless of the result, they will carry the PH flag.

Well this is the ticket that Gaballo is waiting for, if he upsets his idol Donaire, then he might be the next bantamweight that will carry the flag for Philippines. And he is under MP promotions, so a lot of things can happen in his career if he wins here.

Nevertheless, he is facing one of the best in this division, who has face a lot of boxers, and has a big heart. So it's a dangerous fight for Donaire, he really needs to train very hard specially his stamina as he is not getting any younger and this fight might last for full 12 rounds.

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And obviously, it could be a win by Donaire again, I'm not underestimating Gaballo here but I see his weakness when he fought Rodriguez, he is not accurate with his punches so he might get KO by Donaire here who is only waiting for the right timing.

Gaballo has a lot to learn, relying on power alone is not gonna work against a veteran champion.

Experience-wise, Gaballo still has more food to eat. Donaire's experience is his advantage in that fight. But in my own view, I'm looking the other way.

I see Gaballo will be more pumped at that fight as just imagining what will happen next if he wins is already exciting to think. If by any chance that he defeat Donaire, more recognition will be given to him and a possible a much better contract deal compare to his usual. He will also climb the ranking making an opportunity to fight at those on higher rankings. That's an opportunity that every boxer wants.

Not favoring between one of them who will win. They are both PH boxers so regardless of the result, they will carry the PH flag.

Well, that is possible, though shall not be too confident that Donaire will win --underdog could win too just like a previous boxing match that recently happens. Look at Pacquiao's fight against Ugas, he was too confident about it and the result of losing because he thinks that he can defeat the ability but the truth is, he cant. The advantage here is they are both Filipino and that is right, whoever will win is still a Filipino for sure. We hope that there is no postpone match like injury or ^[excuse] reason why the fight will not happen.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 30, 2021, 05:14:35 PM

The only way Donaire would win here is via knockout because if the fight goes the full 12 rounds chances are Donaire would gas out and Gaballo might take over in the championship rounds. So with that being said my bet is Donaire via KO, I hope the odds are attractive for this market.

Donaire is hitting with his age effect and fighting 12 rounds is already exhausting to him. It's difficult to gather points while stamina is depleting.

A knockout win for Donaire should be the key to win the fight. When they are both tired, Gaballo seems to have an advantage as he's currently in his prime and can manage to last 12 rounds with no problem with stamina.

Unless Donaire will school and show Gaballo what's the meaning of being a multi-champion and a titleholder.

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Quote from: harizen on September 30, 2021, 04:53:14 PM

Not favoring between one of them who will win. They are both PH boxers so regardless of the result, they will carry the PH flag.

Same here, the Filipino fans of this sweet science are the winners here as whoever wins this fight still carries the PH flag just like what you said.

Betting-wise, I would still prefer to push the button on Donaire's side as the guy is popular in the US and he could give money fights to Casimero if they meet in the future.

The only way Donaire would win here is via knockout because if the fight goes the full 12 rounds chances are Donaire would gas out and Gaballo might take over in the championship rounds. So with that being said my bet is Donaire via KO, I hope the odds are attractive for this market.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on September 30, 2021, 04:17:27 PM

And obviously, it could be a win by Donaire again, I'm not underestimating Gaballo here but I see his weakness when he fought Rodriguez, he is not accurate with his punches so he might get KO by Donaire here who is only waiting for the right timing.

Gaballo has a lot to learn, relying on power alone is not gonna work against a veteran champion.

Experience-wise, Gaballo still has more food to eat. Donaire's experience is his advantage in that fight. But in my own view, I'm looking the other way.

I see Gaballo will be more pumped at that fight as just imagining what will happen next if he wins is already exciting to think. If by any chance that he defeat Donaire, more recognition will be given to him and a possible a much better contract deal compare to his usual. He will also climb the ranking making an opportunity to fight at those on higher rankings. That's an opportunity that every boxer wants.

Not favoring between one of them who will win. They are both PH boxers so regardless of the result, they will carry the PH flag.

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This is a good match although not a lot of people expected this since there's been a talk of Donaire vs Casimero so I really don't see why the organization decided to bout Gaballo and Doanaire.

Both Donaire and Gaballo are on the same organisation, they are both champions, Donaire holding the WBC regular bantamweight belt, and the Gaballo, the interim bantamweight. And that's why boxing now is so confusing because there are so many champions who are holding the same belt for one organisation. So the winner will be the true champion of the WBC bantamweight, unless they give Donaire about title belt and then relegated another boxer in their organisation to a champion.

Make sense and if whoever wins the fight, he will earn the title for this organization. Both Donaire and Gaballo want additional fame and winning is the best venue to earn that.

Donaire, though still hungry and still aiming to fight again with Inoue, he's nearing to his retirement, so he's more aggressive to win this fight and have that chance to call the rematch.

This fight might not gain much viewers, but since the organization mandated this fight, we will see who's going to be on top.

And obviously, it could be a win by Donaire again, I'm not underestimating Gaballo here but I see his weakness when he fought Rodriguez, he is not accurate with his punches so he might get KO by Donaire here who is only waiting for the right timing.

Gaballo has a lot to learn, relying on power alone is not gonna work against a veteran champion.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 29, 2021, 04:40:14 AM

This is a good match although not a lot of people expected this since there's been a talk of Donaire vs Casimero so I really don't see why the organization decided to bout Gaballo and Doanaire.

Both Donaire and Gaballo are on the same organisation, they are both champions, Donaire holding the WBC regular bantamweight belt, and the Gaballo, the interim bantamweight. And that's why boxing now is so confusing because there are so many champions who are holding the same belt for one organisation. So the winner will be the true champion of the WBC bantamweight, unless they give Donaire about title belt and then relegated another boxer in their organisation to a champion.

Make sense and if whoever wins the fight, he will earn the title for this organization. Both Donaire and Gaballo want additional fame and winning is the best venue to earn that.

Donaire, though still hungry and still aiming to fight again with Inoue, he's nearing to his retirement, so he's more aggressive to win this fight and have that chance to call the rematch.

This fight might not gain much viewers, but since the organization mandated this fight, we will see who's going to be on top.

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I can't seem to find an update on where and when it will happen. Tried to search it but most of the links are 6-8 days ago.
If its mandatory, shouldn't WBC make an announcement already? Because there is no going back in it for it was an order.

Gaballo would not back off in this fight even if Donaire is his idol. Somewhere in the corner of their mind they may have expected they will also fight each other someday.
I was a bit confused about what he said here.

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"I really want to fight my idol Nonito Donaire but it also depends on my boss and WBC. I am a fighter and what I want is to fight and win. That is my mindset," Gaballo said.

Depends on my boss and WBC? But it was already said as mandatory and the article was written September 23rd.
https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/sports/boxing/804340/reymart-gaballo-won-t-step-aside-for-donaire-vs-casimero/story/

Most likely it will happen in December. WBC ordered the mandatory fight, and so the manager of the two fighters will have to agree and sit down about the purse split. And maybe after that we might hear an official announcement from either of their promoters or managers. It is not the WBC that will officially announced it. So we will have to wait for the final date, but definitely this will happen before the much anticipated another all Filipino clash of Donaire and Casimero.

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Quote from: Reatim on September 28, 2021, 11:22:42 PM

Never Been lose with 24 wins and no draw? this is a really strong fighter that may end up Nonito's career.

also aging 25 years old? while Nonito Donaire is at 38 , the comparison is highly different in favor of Gaballo .

Yeah, it is an interesting comparison. I don't see any huge favour against each other. I'm not sure how the bookies would put an odd between these two fighters. Because I honestly don't see Donaire being an underdog here. Gaballo might not have fought elite fighters in Donaires level before. Plus, Donaire has the experience.
Well, this kid Gaballo is no doubt a strong fighter knocking out more than 80% of his opponent. Let's see what he can show to an elite veteran fighter.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 29, 2021, 04:40:14 AM

This is a good match although not a lot of people expected this since there's been a talk of Donaire vs Casimero so I really don't see why the organization decided to bout Gaballo and Doanaire.

Both Donaire and Gaballo are on the same organisation, they are both champions, Donaire holding the WBC regular bantamweight belt, and the Gaballo, the interim bantamweight. And that's why boxing now is so confusing because there are so many champions who are holding the same belt for one organisation. So the winner will be the true champion of the WBC bantamweight, unless they give Donaire about title belt and then relegated another boxer in their organisation to a champion.

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