[Boxing] Nonito Donaire vs Reymart Gaballo (WBC bantamweight) - page 28.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 05, 2021, 06:53:01 AM

I tell you, man, don't just based on the statistics, based on the quality of opponents these two boxers have fought.
Check the record of Donaire https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/48243

here are some of the names of the champions that he beaten.

Nordine Oubaali
Vic Darchinyan
Jorge Arce
Fernando Montiel

Tell me, what are the big names Gaballo beat in his boxing career?

On the other side we can't set aside to look for the fact that these statistics of a fighters will be used as a basis to determine the odds that may favor towards a fighter. But you still have a point mate, those statistics are just the statistics of a boxers past and recent fights and for sure every fighters have had an improvement in their physique's, in their strategy and improvements in their speeds and skills but there are given skills that are the true assets of a fighter that can be seen through out his fights. Donaire is such a good boxer and Gaballo is also a good one, so I can say that the upcoming fight is a very anticipated fight.

This is the basis of the expert to see who's more stronger among those fighters but when the fight is on things will be different since we might gonna see that the other fighter will change it phase and been more prepared for this fight, also age might be consider unto this since we know Donaire is not the same as before but let see what performance he can show and I want him to win against Gaballo so that we can see a possible rematch between him and Inoue.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 05, 2021, 06:53:01 AM

I tell you, man, don't just based on the statistics, based on the quality of opponents these two boxers have fought.
Check the record of Donaire https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/48243

here are some of the names of the champions that he beaten.

Nordine Oubaali
Vic Darchinyan
Jorge Arce
Fernando Montiel

Tell me, what are the big names Gaballo beat in his boxing career?

On the other side we can't set aside to look for the fact that these statistics of a fighters will be used as a basis to determine the odds that may favor towards a fighter. But you still have a point mate, those statistics are just the statistics of a boxers past and recent fights and for sure every fighters have had an improvement in their physique's, in their strategy and improvements in their speeds and skills but there are given skills that are the true assets of a fighter that can be seen through out his fights. Donaire is such a good boxer and Gaballo is also a good one, so I can say that the upcoming fight is a very anticipated fight.

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Donaire is still powerful to fight besides his age factor. Yes, the punches were really strong and quick enough to hit the opponent. Every boxer has their own style of boxing. I recently saw a movie with full of boxing. Yes, each one has their own uniqueness in playing with opponents. Yup so far I have seen, both Nonito Donire and Reymart Gaballo are really good fighters.

They are really good but only one will win in this match, and probably the older one will win as Gaballo lacks experience fighting against a champion. Reymart Gaballo would be happy to have this opportunity to fight the Filipino flash, as although he is going to fight an older Donaire, but this is his biggest fight so far and this fight would test him if he could continue to carry that undefeated record.

Maybe Reymart Gaballo has no long experience like what Donaire has but just check His statistics here

specially those highlighted part and tell us how sure you are that Donaire will win in this fight?

that 24 wins in all his fight and 20 of them are Knockouts are proof that this man is a Monster inside the ring .

I tell you, man, don't just based on the statistics, based on the quality of opponents these two boxers have fought.
Check the record of Donaire https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/48243

here are some of the names of the champions that he beaten.

Nordine Oubaali
Vic Darchinyan
Jorge Arce
Fernando Montiel

Tell me, what are the big names Gaballo beat in his boxing career?

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Quote from: peter0425 on October 05, 2021, 03:08:37 AM

that 24 wins in all his fight and 20 of them are Knockouts are proof that this man is a Monster inside the ring .

Well he is really something. I watched his previous fights and I can say that he is more like Inoue, fast, agressive and know where to hit his opponent. However he is not well known and those opponents he managed to defeat are also not popular the reason why he is not recognize yet. But if ever he defeat Donaire on their upcoming fight, it might be the start for him to be on the spotlight so lets see whats going to happen.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 04, 2021, 03:30:07 PM

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Donaire is still powerful to fight besides his age factor. Yes, the punches were really strong and quick enough to hit the opponent. Every boxer has their own style of boxing. I recently saw a movie with full of boxing. Yes, each one has their own uniqueness in playing with opponents. Yup so far I have seen, both Nonito Donire and Reymart Gaballo are really good fighters.

They are really good but only one will win in this match, and probably the older one will win as Gaballo lacks experience fighting against a champion. Reymart Gaballo would be happy to have this opportunity to fight the Filipino flash, as although he is going to fight an older Donaire, but this is his biggest fight so far and this fight would test him if he could continue to carry that undefeated record.

Maybe Reymart Gaballo has no long experience like what Donaire has but just check His statistics here

specially those highlighted part and tell us how sure you are that Donaire will win in this fight?

that 24 wins in all his fight and 20 of them are Knockouts are proof that this man is a Monster inside the ring .

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Gaballo would not gonna make the fight last because his style is aggressive boxing, he doesn't have the jabs, his aim is to KO his opponent early on and with that, I can say that they have the same goal with Donaire. If Gaballo changes style, then maybe we might see this a long bout and could be on his advantage as the aging Donaire might get frustrated and will loss his stamina, however, beating Donaire is easier said than done.

Counter puncher like Donaire would really be most likely to prefer on aggressive fighters because we know that counter punches can really be seen with these kind of moments or shall we say its the exact
times on where these counterpunches would really be relevant.

counter puncher like Donaire is indeed best defense in this fight but the problem is power , these past years we can see how lowering punches Nonito has delivered and we can check this in His past fight specially against Inoue.

Maybe you should check the last fight of Donaire which is against Oubaali and tell me if the power is a problem for him.

Here are the highlights of the fight, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWwV2_9Kr4U.
Man, he still has the power and the best timing for his counter punch.

You are correct there. Age is not hitting Donaire, at least for now. Not just against Oubaali but his performance against Naoya Inoue. If Donaire and Inoue are in the same age and prime, the former can destroy that champion. And prior to fighting Inoue, he reached the finals of that event destroying a much younger boxer on his way to the top.

Look at some highlights about Nonito's counterattack. It can give heavy damage even to a prime boxer. Gaballo knows that. It's hard to fight a counter-puncher wherein Gaballo's majority of his winning is not against a boxer of that type. He will be tested against Donaire and that will be the best opportunity in his career to fighting against a solid counter-pouncher.

Age might affect Donaire's footwork and speed but his counter punching ability?? Hell no and yes we've seen it against Oubaali. The counter punches and the power of his punches are still there. He isn't as athletic as he is at his prime which is understandable I think but he can still fight younger and strong fighters at his age. He's like Pacquiao that can beat fighters still even they are at near 40's already.

Its a Filipino against a Filipino then and Gaballo is also undefeated as well. The trashtalks of Casimero went to nothing. I don't want to say that Gaballo has the upper hand in this fight because Donaire can still dominate but.. yeah lets just see what will happen. For us Filipino countrymen, for sure we will watch this fight since we are seeing 2 Filipino fighters fighting for a title

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P.S. I thought Donaire will fight CongTV Cheesy

(If you are a Filipino, you will know who Cong is Cheesy

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on October 04, 2021, 03:30:07 PM

They are really good but only one will win in this match, and probably the older one will win as Gaballo lacks experience fighting against a champion. Reymart Gaballo would be happy to have this opportunity to fight the Filipino flash, as although he is going to fight an older Donaire, but this is his biggest fight so far and this fight would test him if he could continue to carry that undefeated record.

If Donaire still has his skills even up to this time, then Gaballo has no chance of winning this fight. But if what remains today is only his name and his skills are already dramatically subsided, then Gaballo will dominate the fight through the rounds if he just stays calm and not rushing to knock Donaire out. Remember, even though Donaire loses his speed and agility, he still has that deadl y counter punch that can turn the table in just a few seconds.

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Gaballo would not gonna make the fight last because his style is aggressive boxing, he doesn't have the jabs, his aim is to KO his opponent early on and with that, I can say that they have the same goal with Donaire. If Gaballo changes style, then maybe we might see this a long bout and could be on his advantage as the aging Donaire might get frustrated and will loss his stamina, however, beating Donaire is easier said than done.

Counter puncher like Donaire would really be most likely to prefer on aggressive fighters because we know that counter punches can really be seen with these kind of moments or shall we say its the exact
times on where these counterpunches would really be relevant.

counter puncher like Donaire is indeed best defense in this fight but the problem is power , these past years we can see how lowering punches Nonito has delivered and we can check this in His past fight specially against Inoue.

Maybe you should check the last fight of Donaire which is against Oubaali and tell me if the power is a problem for him.

Here are the highlights of the fight, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWwV2_9Kr4U.
Man, he still has the power and the best timing for his counter punch.

You are correct there. Age is not hitting Donaire, at least for now. Not just against Oubaali but his performance against Naoya Inoue. If Donaire and Inoue are in the same age and prime, the former can destroy that champion. And prior to fighting Inoue, he reached the finals of that event destroying a much younger boxer on his way to the top.

Look at some highlights about Nonito's counterattack. It can give heavy damage even to a prime boxer. Gaballo knows that. It's hard to fight a counter-puncher wherein Gaballo's majority of his winning is not against a boxer of that type. He will be tested against Donaire and that will be the best opportunity in his career to fighting against a solid counter-pouncher.

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Quote from: Japinat on October 04, 2021, 03:45:25 PM

Pacquiao had formally announced his retirement in boxing already, we only have few Filipino fighters to watch, and currently, we only have a popular Nonito Donaire (who would retire soon) and Johnriel Casimero.

Both will have a mandatory fight and it would be nice for them to win their respective fight so a big fight will be scheduled for them, that's the reason why I think Nonito will win and I'm gonna bet on him as well.

There's something still in mind like Pagara but recently he was charged with a case of raping a teen (NSFW) but the boxer denied the accusations. I don't know if he can still get his feet back on the ring and I admire his skills in boxing but this current issue surely put him to some serious challenge. There are other professional ones like Ancajas, Marcial and one of my favorite as well Magsayo. Nonito should be at top of this since he got more experience and more popular internationally.

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Donaire is still powerful to fight besides his age factor. Yes, the punches were really strong and quick enough to hit the opponent. Every boxer has their own style of boxing. I recently saw a movie with full of boxing. Yes, each one has their own uniqueness in playing with opponents. Yup so far I have seen, both Nonito Donire and Reymart Gaballo are really good fighters.

They are indeed, good fighters but my bet is going to Nonaire on this one.

As someone who grew up watching the fights of Nonito "The Flash" Donaire, it is truly a privilege to see him fight once again on the ring despite his age. Since Manny Pacquiao has already retired from boxing, boxers like Donaire are only of the few Filipino boxers who have established their name and reputation as the 'greats' on their field.

Though Reymart Gaballo is one of those aspiring young fighters who have a good track record, the experience is with Donaire on this one.

Pacquiao had formally announced his retirement in boxing already, we only have few Filipino fighters to watch, and currently, we only have a popular Nonito Donaire (who would retire soon) and Johnriel Casimero.

Both will have a mandatory fight and it would be nice for them to win their respective fight so a big fight will be scheduled for them, that's the reason why I think Nonito will win and I'm gonna bet on him as well.

That's correct, he announces it a few days ago and it's not surprising anymore as after that he also files a candidacy to run for the presidency. It's the decision that he has to make as he cannot anymore do politics and boxing together since he is running for a higher position.

It was previously announced that he will have a fight in the 1st quarter next year as a rematch against Ugas, that's not gonna happen, all we can see next year are the rising Filipino boxers, so it's important that we will support them.

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Quote from: ReiMomo on October 04, 2021, 01:56:33 PM

Donaire is still powerful to fight besides his age factor. Yes, the punches were really strong and quick enough to hit the opponent. Every boxer has their own style of boxing. I recently saw a movie with full of boxing. Yes, each one has their own uniqueness in playing with opponents. Yup so far I have seen, both Nonito Donire and Reymart Gaballo are really good fighters.

They are indeed, good fighters but my bet is going to Nonaire on this one.

As someone who grew up watching the fights of Nonito "The Flash" Donaire, it is truly a privilege to see him fight once again on the ring despite his age. Since Manny Pacquiao has already retired from boxing, boxers like Donaire are only of the few Filipino boxers who have established their name and reputation as the 'greats' on their field.

Though Reymart Gaballo is one of those aspiring young fighters who have a good track record, the experience is with Donaire on this one.

Pacquiao had formally announced his retirement in boxing already, we only have few Filipino fighters to watch, and currently, we only have a popular Nonito Donaire (who would retire soon) and Johnriel Casimero.

Both will have a mandatory fight and it would be nice for them to win their respective fight so a big fight will be scheduled for them, that's the reason why I think Nonito will win and I'm gonna bet on him as well.

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Quote from: ReiMomo on October 04, 2021, 01:56:33 PM

Donaire is still powerful to fight besides his age factor. Yes, the punches were really strong and quick enough to hit the opponent. Every boxer has their own style of boxing. I recently saw a movie with full of boxing. Yes, each one has their own uniqueness in playing with opponents. Yup so far I have seen, both Nonito Donire and Reymart Gaballo are really good fighters.

They are indeed, good fighters but my bet is going to Nonaire on this one.

As someone who grew up watching the fights of Nonito "The Flash" Donaire, it is truly a privilege to see him fight once again on the ring despite his age. Since Manny Pacquiao has already retired from boxing, boxers like Donaire are only of the few Filipino boxers who have established their name and reputation as the 'greats' on their field.

Though Reymart Gaballo is one of those aspiring young fighters who have a good track record, the experience is with Donaire on this one.

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Quote from: ReiMomo on October 04, 2021, 01:56:33 PM

Donaire is still powerful to fight besides his age factor. Yes, the punches were really strong and quick enough to hit the opponent. Every boxer has their own style of boxing. I recently saw a movie with full of boxing. Yes, each one has their own uniqueness in playing with opponents. Yup so far I have seen, both Nonito Donire and Reymart Gaballo are really good fighters.

They are really good but only one will win in this match, and probably the older one will win as Gaballo lacks experience fighting against a champion. Reymart Gaballo would be happy to have this opportunity to fight the Filipino flash, as although he is going to fight an older Donaire, but this is his biggest fight so far and this fight would test him if he could continue to carry that undefeated record.

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Gaballo would not gonna make the fight last because his style is aggressive boxing, he doesn't have the jabs, his aim is to KO his opponent early on and with that, I can say that they have the same goal with Donaire. If Gaballo changes style, then maybe we might see this a long bout and could be on his advantage as the aging Donaire might get frustrated and will loss his stamina, however, beating Donaire is easier said than done.

Counter puncher like Donaire would really be most likely to prefer on aggressive fighters because we know that counter punches can really be seen with these kind of moments or shall we say its the exact
times on where these counterpunches would really be relevant.

Stamina is something an issue to Donaire but we have seen on how he lasted up until 12 rounds against Inoue which simply means that this one wont really be an easy thing for Gaballo.

He would really need tooo have something on at least able to be on par with this upcoming fight on an opponent which is good at speed and counter punch.

He can last in 12 rounds but based on the past results, he lost most of the fights if it last in 12 rounds, so that's the strategy Gaballo's camp should study. Donaire is a knockout artist, his opponent cannot be careless as one mistake, the fight might be over. Gaballo will be the underdog for sure, and as I see on this kid, he is not mentally tough to face a high-caliber champion.

That is interesting data, there are fighters that are simply not built to fight the 12 rounds, they need to win before that happens or they need to accumulate a big enough difference in points during the first 8 or 9 rounds of the fight in order to win the fight even if they happen to lose the rest of the rounds, Gaballo will need to train his body like he has never done so in order to have a chance, and since he is relatively young this is an advantage he could exploit against Donaire.

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Donaire is still powerful to fight besides his age factor. Yes, the punches were really strong and quick enough to hit the opponent. Every boxer has their own style of boxing. I recently saw a movie with full of boxing. Yes, each one has their own uniqueness in playing with opponents. Yup so far I have seen, both Nonito Donire and Reymart Gaballo are really good fighters.

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Gaballo would not gonna make the fight last because his style is aggressive boxing, he doesn't have the jabs, his aim is to KO his opponent early on and with that, I can say that they have the same goal with Donaire. If Gaballo changes style, then maybe we might see this a long bout and could be on his advantage as the aging Donaire might get frustrated and will loss his stamina, however, beating Donaire is easier said than done.

Counter puncher like Donaire would really be most likely to prefer on aggressive fighters because we know that counter punches can really be seen with these kind of moments or shall we say its the exact
times on where these counterpunches would really be relevant.

counter puncher like Donaire is indeed best defense in this fight but the problem is power , these past years we can see how lowering punches Nonito has delivered and we can check this in His past fight specially against Inoue.

Maybe you should check the last fight of Donaire which is against Oubaali and tell me if the power is a problem for him.

Here are the highlights of the fight, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWwV2_9Kr4U.
Man, he still has the power and the best timing for his counter punch.

Man, IMO, power is not the only factor in winning boxing, boxers have different ways of fighting the opponent. I Saw Donaire's recent fight and I can tell that power doesn't leave him, and you can see those punches marking on the enemy and add those defensive skills of Donaire. Never doubt every boxer's ability to fight, both of them are still in a good shape and this fight will be really good.

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^ We have the same choice, I think or it will be sure that Gaballo here will definitely be an underdog in this match.

I think it should be Donaire that should be the underdog in this match. Despite that he's popular and also well known, Gaballo's record is good with zero losses.
And even Donaire has a lot of fights already, he has 6 losses. This is just my opinion about this match if looking at their professional records, only 4 fights out of 24 fights of Gaballo were not knockout. That's a good percentage for his entire career.

If basing with that impressive stats of Gaballo but in most cases, fans and bettors choose their pick either popularity or experienced, Donaire have both in my own opinion, Donaire earned popularity since from those previous fight he made he also impressed boxing fans and with experienced he shown his boxing style and earned the title as Filipino flash.

All will be judged when the fight happens and if how these two fighters come up and bring all the best that they've got. Good Luck!

Yeah, both of them are in great stats and they'll just show whoever is better on this upcoming match of theirs. We'll get to see if Gaballo will remain as undefeated and a win against Donaire will really lift him.
Or, will it be that Donaire is going to be his defeat and it's going to be with a fellow countrymen.

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Gaballo would not gonna make the fight last because his style is aggressive boxing, he doesn't have the jabs, his aim is to KO his opponent early on and with that, I can say that they have the same goal with Donaire. If Gaballo changes style, then maybe we might see this a long bout and could be on his advantage as the aging Donaire might get frustrated and will loss his stamina, however, beating Donaire is easier said than done.

Counter puncher like Donaire would really be most likely to prefer on aggressive fighters because we know that counter punches can really be seen with these kind of moments or shall we say its the exact
times on where these counterpunches would really be relevant.

counter puncher like Donaire is indeed best defense in this fight but the problem is power , these past years we can see how lowering punches Nonito has delivered and we can check this in His past fight specially against Inoue.

Maybe you should check the last fight of Donaire which is against Oubaali and tell me if the power is a problem for him.

Here are the highlights of the fight, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWwV2_9Kr4U.
Man, he still has the power and the best timing for his counter punch.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on October 01, 2021, 03:47:18 PM

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Gaballo would not gonna make the fight last because his style is aggressive boxing, he doesn't have the jabs, his aim is to KO his opponent early on and with that, I can say that they have the same goal with Donaire. If Gaballo changes style, then maybe we might see this a long bout and could be on his advantage as the aging Donaire might get frustrated and will loss his stamina, however, beating Donaire is easier said than done.

Counter puncher like Donaire would really be most likely to prefer on aggressive fighters because we know that counter punches can really be seen with these kind of moments or shall we say its the exact
times on where these counterpunches would really be relevant.

counter puncher like Donaire is indeed best defense in this fight but the problem is power , these past years we can see how lowering punches Nonito has delivered and we can check this in His past fight specially against Inoue.

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Stamina is something an issue to Donaire but we have seen on how he lasted up until 12 rounds against Inoue which simply means that this one wont really be an easy thing for Gaballo.

Stamina ? Donaire has this he is a 12 rounder fighter , but of course not that strong to deliver.

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He would really need tooo have something on at least able to be on par with this upcoming fight on an opponent which is good at speed and counter punch.

Gaballo is a offensive fighter and also a strong one , beating his past opponent mostly knockdown so Nonito is facing one of the best fight of His career.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on October 02, 2021, 04:51:10 PM

^ We have the same choice, I think or it will be sure that Gaballo here will definitely be an underdog in this match.

I think it should be Donaire that should be the underdog in this match. Despite that he's popular and also well known, Gaballo's record is good with zero losses.
And even Donaire has a lot of fights already, he has 6 losses. This is just my opinion about this match if looking at their professional records, only 4 fights out of 24 fights of Gaballo were not knockout. That's a good percentage for his entire career.

If basing with that impressive stats of Gaballo but in most cases, fans and bettors choose their pick either popularity or experienced, Donaire have both in my own opinion, Donaire earned popularity since from those previous fight he made he also impressed boxing fans and with experienced he shown his boxing style and earned the title as Filipino flash.

All will be judged when the fight happens and if how these two fighters come up and bring all the best that they've got. Good Luck!

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