Topic: Boxing: Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney (9th of December) - page 12. (Read 1650 times)

Haney is high technical and has reach advantage, so I don't really think different weight will give him a trouble.

Prograis, Matias, Romero and Lopez aren't high technical boxers, so it will be pretty hard to beat Haney. Well maybe Josh Taylor has a chance to fight with Haney even though he not own any title, but his last performance against Catterall and Lopez were not good.

Lopez actually an overrated boxer due to his popularity, he's strong and has a stamina, but his performance is just not stable.

All right, so here is the reason why Devin and his dad wanted to move the fight date earlier. For me, it makes sense to move the date otherwise they will go head-to-head against Tyson Fury's fight against Francis Ngannou. I mean this fight is the better match-up but most likely only for the boxing hard cores. But it is still a bitch move not consulting Regis Prograis especially since he is the defending champion. They can move the fight to a later date like a week or 2 after the Fury-Ngannou and not before that.



I like that this division is becoming like 50/50 against each other since the fall of Josh Taylor as it makes the division more exciting. Although Teofimo Lopez is the lineal champ as he beat Taylor. But prior to Prograis' poor performance, I also pick him as the strongest in this division. But just like Emmanuel Navarette who looked beatable before he was picked by Oscar Valdez, Regis is well aware too of his poor performance and will train harder and do better by addressing those bad habits in his next fight with Haney. I hope this fight is not canceled yet especially since the contracts are already signed.

Haney is moving up, challenging himself to test his limits. However, Regis Prograis is a boxer who lost to Josh Taylor and had a disappointing performance against Teofimo Lopez. So, considering that Haney is a more tactical fighter and probably quicker, I already have a good idea of where to lean in this match. The odds for Regis Prograis might be enticing, but as long as the odds for Haney are reasonable, I won't be tempted to bet on Regis Prograis.

If only power is the only factor and measurement to be the best of super-lightweight division then Devin Haney wouldn't have any problems but he shouldn't forget that it will be a new weight for him and a new division as well, and while he's still adjusting to the weight, his opponents like Regis Prograis who is more comfortable at 140 will not show him mercy just because of that. Haney does have a chance, I'll give him that, but not as decent compared to the one whom he will face. And Teo Lopez? It turns out that he's just an underrated boxer who actually does have a chance to be one of the bad guys at 140 and let's not forget Josh Taylor, I think he can still bounce back.

Yes, I like that Haney too will be the favorite and see if he can hold that odds or maybe there will be swing odds for Prograis as there could be smart money that is going to Regis because they know the weakness of Devin and as we have said, this is a very different weight class for him and he might not be able to stand against big punchers on welterweight.

Or if he can get away from the power punches early, maybe in the later rounds when he is tired and reflex down, Prograis can find that hole and deliver that one punch that can change the complexion of the fight in his favor.

Super lightweight seems to be an easy weight especially for Haney who have fought so many great boxers in lightweight. I think Regis Prograis is currently the tough boxer in super lightweight, if Haney can beat him, technically he don't have any problem to beat Romero, Matias and Lopez. All of them haven't defended their belt at least for once, that's why I think they're not really strong.

The result of this fight should be Haney win via decision.

That makes sense which is why Devin Haney was mastering the art of defense and counterpunching because he doesn't have any skills or options that can take down any given foe that he will face against. His only weapon is his IQ and defensive tactics that can evade strong punches but that too has its own limit and going against the natural guys at 140 pounds might be too much for him to handle and he will surely have some difficulties in that weight class.

I would be glad if he will be listed as the favorite in their upcoming fight because that will be a huge advantage for me to bet towards Regis Prograis, may it ML or via KO.

That's one weakness of Devin Haney, he has weak chin, there are other fighters as well that buckled him down, before Haney. It's that it was not a clear punch that hit him. But if a bigger guy like a natural welterweight in Prograis the Haney might not take it lightly and go down and this could be the selling point on how Prograis can score a upset here.

For sure Haney will be the favorite but facing hard hitters in the 140 lbs division, Devin will be made aware that this weight class is different for him and he might not survived at 140 lbs with all his big punchers and natural guys that literally packs a power.

Devin Haney was almost buckled by the smaller Lomachenco in the later round of their fight so there is no doubt that there is a possibility that Devin Haney will kiss the canvas in his fight against Prograis since Prograis is a heavier boxer, a heavier hitter than Loma and bigger than Loma.  I do not think that Haney can evade all the strong punches of Prograis so I also think that Prograis  has the possibility to win the fight via KO.

Yes quite of an upset especially for audiences. Before a contract is made, negotiations with the venue and other things should come first, and last thing to come is the contract for players' managemebt as their approval to the arranged match. Confused if it is just a drama or just unprofessionalism to the one who is making the changes. Contract is a formal agreement and sudden changes shouldn't be easily entertained.

As other users have mentioned, this instance is also evident with some of the big fights before and many people believed that there's an intention of such action. Fighters have a planned routine and if it would be altered or adjusted then result would be different from what was assumed, which makes this a big deal.

It should be easy because Regis Prograis can always weave what they have discussed because of this nonsense move made by Haney and his camp, not sure what they thought by the way that led them to this but they just made themselves a huge embarrassment for trying to pull this trick. Also, if there was already a signed contract then this should be a done deal already, nothing will be changed unless if there were some injuries or emergencies.

Ok if I got it right, they already agreed and sign the contract and so they have the date already settled, then suddenly, they wanted to change the fight date much earlier?

Yeah, it's weird though, question is why they want the date to be change in the first place? They can't reason out that the venue is not ready or something. If they have sign a contract then for sure they already have a place for that. Not sure what to take from this drama, but definitely, this is a bitch-ass move by the Haney to derail Regis plan.

Another classic maneuver from Mayweather Jr.'s handbook, just like what Errol Spence Jr. did some time ago when he ducked Crawford for months and waited for quite some time before he decided to face him for the undisputed fight. Many excuses at that time too just like how Al Haymon and Spence convinced the sanctioning bodies to contest his mandatory title defense fight against Keith Thurman at 154 lbs. It was really unreasonable because how can he defend his titles at 154 if he doesn't have any belts in that weight class in the first place.

Now, I can see Devin Haney doing the very same thing or maybe much worse and just like what happened to Spence, his time will also come.

This won't be an easy fight for Devin Haney, but indeed he can find a way to give Prograis a hard time boxing against him, and there will be small chances of knocking him out. the best prediction would be reaching the official's scorecard, but I would like to see them not reaching that far because it would be boring since both of these guys are more than capable of knocking each other in the early rounds. Who knows, but in my prediction, it will surely be a knockout for Haney because of his vast experience compared to Prograis.

He wants the easy route to win belts while making money at the same time, his promoters did not believe that he can take the like Shakur, Teofimo, and Gervonta he wants to protect is 0 and his title but eventually, he will have to face this guy because these guys will outshine him and the only way to establish his legacy is fighting these guys, so far among these big names he is the most underrated, Garcia I thought has the ball to take on Davis even if there's a dehydration clause.

Wow! Some big drama show here. So from being friendly and hospitable to something different. The Haney's are working underground and are trying to change the signed schedule into something earlier and that's what made the champion Regis Prograis mad. I cannot believe Devin at this young age is already trying to lowball his opponent. And I am glad that Regis is standing his ground and is sharing this with the public.

So Devin Haney after becoming undisputed all of a sudden is trying to exploit and avoid riskier opponents as much as possible. First, he does not want to give Lomachenko his well-deserved rematch. Then he offered a laughable 25% PPV share on Shakur, his WBC mandatory. He said he wants to move up in weight at the same time hostage all the belts at 135. He wants to move up in weight but he doesn't want to fight the new lineal champion of 140, Teofimo Lopez. He wanted the WBC champion Regis Prograis after its very poor performance in the last fight. And Devin is not yet satisfied so he wanted Regis to not take a full rest from his previous 12-round fight and forced him to a schedule with less training time. I hope this kid gets clipped.

Source: Regis Prograis Angry on Devin Haney

But I think in this instance, the situation is a bit different because Haney will be moving into a hostile division. A weight class where he is not that accustomed yet whereas his opponent, Regis, who happens to be a champion as well is kind of accustomed to the weight already for he has been fighting in this division for I think almost a decade now.

Anyway, it's pretty much safe to say that we can see Haney's defensive capabilities again as that will always gives him an advantage towards anybody he faced and will face. Also, he got the reach advantage as well that will surely give some difficulties to Regis.

Haney the email champion was the good name for him because of the WBC and your attack was real.Even my opinion was same on Haney for his action on the WBC Franchise.This controversy was accepted by most of the people in the boxing community.Now the boxing community was not agree with the WBC Franchise as the real championship and for the top order game.The most important reason behind this was the match fixing and the game which is almost all the time fixing by the WBC.Mostly on the game like Semi and Final matches.

It's the strategy that matters, and we can conclude that Devin Haney knows the right strategy as he keeps winning. However, we cannot deny that fans would want to be entertained. They want to see the boxer they are leaning towards winning, and at the same time, they also would like to be entertained. When two boxers who have a reputation for being boring fighters in the ring face each other, that is not going to entertain the fans.

However, for Haney, I like his decision to move up as it's necessary for a considered great boxer to push his limits.

I called Haney an email champion before because he won his WBC belt thru email and not inside the ring. He was emailed by the WBC that he was elevated from interim champion to full WBC champion. This happened when the corrupt WBC tried to convince the boxing community that its new title called WBC Franchise is a legit title awarded to fighters that accomplished a lot. Then middleweight lineal and unified champion Canelo Alvarez was its first holder and then later it was also awarded to then lineal and unified champion Vasily Lomachenko. So Loma was elevated as a Franchise champion and then Haney was emailed as its new WBC regular champion.

It's a blessing in disguise though, the boxing community didn't consider the Franchise champion as the real WBC belt. So loud-mouthed Teofimo Lopez who was supposed to become undisputed after defeating Loma was never recognized by the boxing community since it considered Haney as the WBC's real champion. It's the same reason why Kambosos after beating Lopez unified his belts against Haney to determine the real undisputed champion.

It was the same situation when another corrupt sanctioning body the WBA created the WBA Super belt for WBA regular champions who successfully unified their belts with other champions (WBC/IBF/WBO). It still existed today but the boxing community only considers a WBA regular holder as the real champion if there is no WBA Super holder in the same division. That is why Tank Davis is a fake WBA champion because Haney is the WBA Super champion.