Topic: Boxing: Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney (9th of December) - page 5. (Read 1795 times)

Anyone watching the "Devin Haney vs. Regis Prograis Press Conference Livestream"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ72CwKZxKc

And you can see that Bill Haney and Regis Prograis are getting at each other.

Good to see how this guys are promoting and hyping this fight, both camps are loud mouth so yeah we are looking forward for this fight. No excuses, either Regis will knockout Haney or Haney going into a 12 full round and might be boring fight.  .

Yeah, I don't think that Kambosos is a better fighter, sure he beat Teo Lopez a highly hype fight that time, but Lopez try to comeback in that fight as well, he just fell short because of the early knockdown that he suffers.

So they are not even comparable in my opinion. And I also see Prograis as a better boxer, although I would understand if others haven't heard of his name before unlike Kambosos, a former sparring partner of Manny Pacquaio and that's where his name pop up. And as others have stated before, Prograis is a ex-champion at 140 lbs and his lost was very close or what we call controversial against Josh Taylor.

I'm just trying to look at Kambosos and yeah he has a recent win against Maxi Hughes. So he will be line for the vacant belt from Haney. And it will be Kambosos vs the old Loma. But I think Loma can still win in that fight and it will proved that Kambosos win against Teo is just one of those lucky day in boxing.

And I do agree that Prograis has been tested already at 140 lbs, he used to be a champion here and just lost to a controversial decision against Josh Taylor. So we will see if Prograis can retain his belt or not against Haney who is moving up in this division. I think Haney though is just ripe for the 140 lbs class he doesn't have to drain himself that much so both of them are well hydrated and we will see who will last the 12 rounds.

For me, it's not even close. Prograis is more proven. He is a 2-time world champion, has successful title defenses and even successfully unified his WBC belt against the WBA champion before losing a very close and highly debatable majority decision against then-IBF champion Josh Taylor in the UK.

Meanwhile, Kambosos was a one-hit wonder. He caught Teofimo's worst night of his life. Before Kambosos' title shot against Teofimo, he only won split decisions over Bey and Selby. Kambosos never successfully defended the belts even once as he was schooled by Haney twice. Old Linares and mediocre Jojo Diaz even performed better than Kambosos against Haney.

Early next year, we're expecting old Loma to travel to Kambosos' backyard in Australia for the vacant IBF belt. That's the last chance for Kambosos to show that he belongs to the top names of the division, otherwise, his victory over Teofimo was just a fluke.

I don't know, mate, but I'd like to ask how did you compare these two fighters and see that Kambosos is the better fighter than Prograis? As far as I know, Prograis and Kambosos haven't fought yet, while Kambosos only has two losses, both coming from Haney.

Prograis has only one loss, and that is against Josh Taylor. But that doesn't mean he'll easily lose to Haney just because he isn't undefeated anymore.

Kambosos is a better fighter than Prograis and Haney dominated Kambosos twice, Kambosos has a good game plan but Haney is just too good for Kambosos, Haney is a thinking tactician he may not be a hard puncher but he knows how to fight intelligently, I remember Haney asking Hopkins to give him a Garcia fight but The Golden Boy is grooming Garcia and don't want to give Garcia a hard fight, so The Golden Boy promotion has huge respect for Haney's skill the situation is very different now Garcia is struggling to get on top again while Haney is the undisputed champion, because Haney is not afraid to fight anyone.
If you are a good boxer you have to prove by fighting whoever is the best.

He's always very confident in this fight, and the fact that bookies are favoring him to win makes his confidence boost even more. It's a championship fight, and he'll be the new champion if he wins here, so that's alright for him if he gets confident, as he really needs that in a championship fight.

I just wish that Prograis really has the game plan to not allow Haney to dictate the fight. Because if he does, Haney would effortlessly win in a 12-round battle, and judges would hand their decision favoring Haney for a unanimous decision win.

Looks everything is personal, I see video of the photo shop and there was tension between the older Haney and someone from the camp of Prograis, not sure if that is his training or what, but definitely something is brewing and the animosity is real up to this point.

I don't think that Haney will risk going down to 135 lbs at this point. Not even a Tank fight at that weight class. And I do agree that if ever he wanted Tank or a piece of Shakur, it will be at 140 lbs. Devin Haney is sensing already that he will be a champion and beat Prograis in a full 12 rounds that's why they are very confident.

Haney did mention that Tank Davis isn't interested in a shot at the undisputed championship. So it's more like Haney was only willing to sacrifice making the weight for a fight against Tank. Haney is mad at Shakur and Loma, and he knows they are too risky for him so he better vacate all his belts blocking them the opportunity to become undisputed in just a single fight. Tank is like a low-risk high-reward fight for Haney whereas with the potential money against risky Loma and Shakur, he can get it at 140 while at the same time he gets the chance to become a 2-division world champion.

We are already at fight week. I like the bad blood between the two. I can feel Prograis is mad at Haney and wants to punish him badly. So he is determined here while Haney is hyping himself and talking about anything including lies to get public attention. Haney is doing the villain role to sell fights. 

I'm not surprised by Haney's move to vacate the belt at 135 lbs. His body has matured already, it's not that he doesn't want to defend it, but I'm seeing that it's more of his body not going to make it or it will be more difficult more his body to squeeze in that weight class.

So even if he doesn't want to, then he has no choice but to go to 140 lbs. And just think about it, if he beats Prograis here, then he will have a belt to defend in the future. So it will not be that easy for him to go back to 135 lbs, and as we have seen, he become undisputed already so nothing to proved there. He should just wait for Shakur or Tank Davis to move up and make that money fight.

I was really surprised to hear from him that he is vacating all the remaining belts he had at 135 lbs, so now he is a true 140 lbs and there is no going back. So yeah, if he wins here, for sure the plan will be is to become undisputed here.

But it will be a tough road for Haney, I mean he has to go to Teo Lopez first, as we all know the lineal champion. And then we have a new superstar, or at least he has cemented his claim at the belt that he has defended, Matias. A tough IBF 140 lbs champion and it will be great to see Haney or even Teo Lopez fight this guy.

This is very interesting, obviously I know that Hanney's style is very defensive, the truth is I don't know how he does it, because for my style I think and it may be more tiring, but it helps save energy, but I know that mentally a defensive style It can't make our goal weaken more, because the more attacks and we receive those combinations, the harder it is, while the attacker drains his adrenaline, and it could be that if he connects a good blow it can make anyone hesitate, I don't know what it is. Better if an attack, that is attack style, or a defensive style of boxing, for me in boxing there must be balance, there must be good defense and good attack, which is for me what is meant to be achieved, but also boxers who seek to make knockouts, it is notable that they seek to make the knockout quickly and the amount of energy they expend is impressive, and I don't know, but when there is a greater effort, it is difficult to maintain the same oxygen within the body.

That's why the person or boxer who is defensive absorbs all those attacks, but the bad thing is that when he is receiving them, time passes very slowly for him and very fast and violent for the boxer who attacks where most of the critical effort and decnacio Only the attacking boxer carries it and everything that the other boxer absorbs because it is not just anything, you have to be very tough and with a lot of willpower to look for the best counterattack blow, then basically if he is a defensive boxer but who runs in the ring, and something that I don't like, because it becomes the typical fight that Mayweather won against the Filipino legend, and also, I don't like that type of fight because if they go to the purely technical, it is something that many of us find boring and it is not, I would not want it to reach that level where the fight Stabilizes and becomes very flat , of course in my Personal opinion, since this sport is beautiful.

So it all depends on that results of his fight with Prograis. Although if I'm not mistaken, I've seen reports that he is willing to go back to 135 lbs, win or lose in this division to depend his belt. So there's a lot of things from his kid, unified at 135 lbs, cemented already his legacy on that division. Maybe his next plan is for the 140 lbs.

But who knows, if there is money to be made at 135 lbs against Tank Davis or even Shakur Stevenson, he might go down.

But yes, let's see December 9th, if he gets pass Regis Prograis, the door will still be open for him at either division.

Meanwhile, Devin Haney planned on vacating all his 135 belts after his fight with Prograis. The young kid shared his plan of making his own legacy while he was still young. He wants to become a 3-division champion.

So if he beats Prograis, he may stay short unless there are big money fights to make. Otherwise, a move to 147 is expected. I'm curious though, what if he loses to Prograis? He's having a hard time making 135 but he can make bigger money with his 3 belts rather than build his resume at 140 for another title fight opportunity. And maybe Tank Davis gains confidence and is willing to fight Haney if he loses to Prograis.

Yes, his style doesn't suit most of the boxing fans here, but it is effective for him so we should respect that. And he is the undisputed champion at 140 lbs and lineal I believed, so again, his very style did bring him to become one of the best for this division and I don't think he will change it, that's how his father build him.

And with this fight, Regis has the advantage in power and Haney is going to be tested how good his defense it against this kind of fighters. Regis in his part doesn't recognized this so called defensive specialist so we will see what style is going to win here.

I share your opinion that Haney isn't an exciting fighter, if that's even a word that describes him in the ring. I love boxers who are real fighters. I love watching fights inside the ring. I don't discredit Haney though. That's his style and strategy. He's part of that group of boxers which include Mayweather whose only goal is to win. If it takes constant running, clinching, dodging to do that, they don't mind. There are boxers though who punish their opponents, go for the knock out if possible, and even apologize if the fight is boring. These are the kinds of boxers that I admire. Haney isn't that kind.

They know their limitations as a boxer and they are just humans too, so probably they are just playing their game to hit but not to get hit. Unfortunately with this too careful strategy , it consistently result to a boring fight and that although he is undefeated but fans does not talk about him a lot because it's pretty obvious that fans usually talk about a boxer that entertaining to watch and that he's winning as well.

Take Canelo for example, this champ isn't undefeated anymore, but I'm sure he is more popular than Haney, or other boring boxers who are champ&undefeated.

Until he fights someone who has some high chance to beat him and beat that guy easily, the fans will gonna recognize his skill and he won't be like Andriene Broner who lost easily when he finally fought someone who is not afraid to take his punches and make him realized he is nothing but a rising star, not a star yet. If he can only prove his greatness and fight anybody like the old-time boxers does, he will be instantly famous even though his fighting style is uninteresting but we all know that they are more careful nowadays compared to old boxers who keep grinding on their rivals.

Yes, I remember that fight, Linares was already past his prime that time, but we was able to hit Haney and put him in queer street,  . Haney try to engage but Linares is quicker, but doesn't have that power though to really put Haney into sleep.

So in order for Prograis to win and I think he won't win in the judges scorecard, he should really engage Haney and not make him comfortable in the fight. Haney was comfortable against Kambosos but against Loma, which I think for me Haney lost that fight, mid to late rounds it was Loma who is taking the fight. Prograis has a proverbial punchers chance against Haney, if he hits him square in the chin, Haney will feel that power.

I remember Haney hugged Linares more than you can imagine in a boxing fight. Haney was somehow forced to engage because Linares is a quick type of fighter. Linares would've been quicker but he was already past his prime during their fight.

This time though, Haney is facing a slower fighter in Prograis. What Prograis needs is proper timing. Prograis should also be the aggressor in this fight because Haney can run all night and throw jabs and quick combinations enough to win a decision. Prograis also needs to be the stronger fighter so he can never allow Haney to easily hug him. Haney is also a dirty fighter who throws punches while hugging so Prograis should be the first to initiate a dirty fight every time he gets hugged.