Boxing: Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney (9th of December) - page 8.

TravelMug

hero member

Activity: 2632

Merit: 833

Quote from: Distinctin on September 25, 2023, 08:47:45 AM

Quote from: Iranus on September 25, 2023, 06:33:09 AM

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on September 24, 2023, 02:29:04 PM

Quote from: Iranus on September 24, 2023, 12:21:50 PM

-snip

I don't think that Haney is fast though, and I think he hasn't face a fighter that is very quick. He was almost beaten by an old Loma and there are those who think that Loma was robbed during that fight because he was wobbled and Loma try to rally late in the fight.

But I do agree that this could be a chess match, Prograis trying to hit that one punch, and then Loma trying his best to avoid it. So who ever adapts and had a good ring IQ might win this fight.

I actually think that he is fast and we also know that guys who are more muscular and have a lot of muscles are generally not that fast. So I think Haney is going to be alright.

One thing that might be a problem is him not being very confident. As you said, he almost lost against Loma. That is definitely going to give his opponent more confidence. Prograis is definitely going to be harder to beat. Each of them has to predict what the other is going to do. That's the way both of them will be able to avoid the opponent effectively.

I don't know if Haney will feel inferior against Prograis. Loma is a different fighter than Prograis; in fact, Loma was included in the top pound-for-pound boxers in the world, so he is more popular compared to Prograis, whose name is relatively new despite being the current champion. So, I guess Haney still has the upper hand here; he is the more popular boxer, and I don't think he will face any problems with his performance in a higher weight class.

It's because 140 lbs is not that well known, but if haven't heard though, there are two champions that have unified that division recently. Crawford did it first and then Josh Taylor who beat everyone, including Regis Prograis to get all the 4 belts. But it was short lived though, because after being undisputed, he lost all the belt, have a close fight with Jack Catterall, who the majority thinks he lost, didn't give him the rematch. And then he fight Teo Lopez and lost badly.

And eventually Regis got another belt become a champion. So he is not like a push over fight for Haney. It's going to be very difficult for him, although Haney could have all the tools as he is one of the best defensive fighters we have today. And so he might avoid that power of Regis and score points and win in the judges score card. It could be boring for some fans though if Haney will just play defensive throughout the fight. But that is his style and so Regis should be more aggressive and be a volume puncher here and not feel in love with his so called power.

btc_angela

hero member

Activity: 2660

Merit: 551

Speaking of Haney though, a new interview surfaces about him becoming the fighter of the year,

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dCdZcnF-FMs

Most likely, if he wins against Regis and his performance against Loma.

On the other hand, the one side beating of Crawford against Spence could also be a good candidate for FOTY.

And as well as Canelo's performance against Jermell Charlo.

So let's see it first, if Haney can avoid the big left punch of Regis as he also said in his previous interviews that he is ready for it.

Distinctin

hero member

Activity: 2926

Merit: 657

No dream is too big and no dreamer is too small

Quote from: Iranus on September 25, 2023, 06:33:09 AM

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on September 24, 2023, 02:29:04 PM

Quote from: Iranus on September 24, 2023, 12:21:50 PM

-snip

I don't think that Haney is fast though, and I think he hasn't face a fighter that is very quick. He was almost beaten by an old Loma and there are those who think that Loma was robbed during that fight because he was wobbled and Loma try to rally late in the fight.

But I do agree that this could be a chess match, Prograis trying to hit that one punch, and then Loma trying his best to avoid it. So who ever adapts and had a good ring IQ might win this fight.

I actually think that he is fast and we also know that guys who are more muscular and have a lot of muscles are generally not that fast. So I think Haney is going to be alright.

One thing that might be a problem is him not being very confident. As you said, he almost lost against Loma. That is definitely going to give his opponent more confidence. Prograis is definitely going to be harder to beat. Each of them has to predict what the other is going to do. That's the way both of them will be able to avoid the opponent effectively.

I don't know if Haney will feel inferior against Prograis. Loma is a different fighter than Prograis; in fact, Loma was included in the top pound-for-pound boxers in the world, so he is more popular compared to Prograis, whose name is relatively new despite being the current champion. So, I guess Haney still has the upper hand here; he is the more popular boxer, and I don't think he will face any problems with his performance in a higher weight class.

Iranus

hero member

Activity: 1792

Merit: 534

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on September 24, 2023, 02:29:04 PM

Quote from: Iranus on September 24, 2023, 12:21:50 PM

-snip

I don't think that Haney is fast though, and I think he hasn't face a fighter that is very quick. He was almost beaten by an old Loma and there are those who think that Loma was robbed during that fight because he was wobbled and Loma try to rally late in the fight.

But I do agree that this could be a chess match, Prograis trying to hit that one punch, and then Loma trying his best to avoid it. So who ever adapts and had a good ring IQ might win this fight.

I actually think that he is fast and we also know that guys who are more muscular and have a lot of muscles are generally not that fast. So I think Haney is going to be alright.

One thing that might be a problem is him not being very confident. As you said, he almost lost against Loma. That is definitely going to give his opponent more confidence. Prograis is definitely going to be harder to beat. Each of them has to predict what the other is going to do. That's the way both of them will be able to avoid the opponent effectively.

cryptomaniac_xxx

hero member

Activity: 1344

Merit: 540

Quote from: Iranus on September 24, 2023, 12:21:50 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on September 24, 2023, 08:09:27 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on September 24, 2023, 07:24:26 AM

Quote from: inthelongrun on September 24, 2023, 06:56:10 AM

I also believe that Haney cannot handle getting hit by a powerful puncher like Prograis. He got wobbled by an old Linares and he looked hurt against Lomachencko as well. And he is also moving up in weight which means he is also fighting a bigger guy whom I believe will be stronger than him.

But maybe Haney learned a lot from his past experiences and is becoming better with his defense. While Prograis had a bad performance in his last fight some believe that he might be past his prime already and he is also in his mid-30s.

The question is, will Prograis be able to land punches on Haney? I mean, we know that Haney has mastered his defensive skills in boxing and has improved as he identified weaknesses in his previous fights. So, many still believe that Haney would win, despite being the challenger. While Prograis is known as a KO artist, Haney has faced KO artists in the past and has successfully handed them defeats.

Yes, we will have to see that, I think Regis will really go out early and test the chin of Haney from round 1 and see if it can hold or not.
And we all know that a power puncher like him will have to land at least one good punch.
Haney is very defensive, but we can see that he sometimes slip as well. Even in the Kambosos fight, he got tag a couple.
So it will be interesting on how Haney will deal the power if he tasted it, or will just play pure defense and win on the judges hands.

Haney is really fast. And it is also hard to land punches on a fighter who is faster than average. Personally, I think a fighter who is faster can actually gain an advantage over his opponent. But both of them are great fighters. And just because one is faster, compared to the other does not mean that the other fighter who can punch really powerfully is not going to be able to adapt. I think we have a very interesting fight upcoming. Haney will have to get out of the way of his opponent's hand if he wants to win this fight. Otherwise, he is definitely going to get knocked out for sure.

I don't think that Haney is fast though, and I think he hasn't face a fighter that is very quick. He was almost beaten by an old Loma and there are those who think that Loma was robbed during that fight because he was wobbled and Loma try to rally late in the fight.

But I do agree that this could be a chess match, Prograis trying to hit that one punch, and then Loma trying his best to avoid it. So who ever adapts and had a good ring IQ might win this fight.

Iranus

hero member

Activity: 1792

Merit: 534

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: Kemarit on September 24, 2023, 08:09:27 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on September 24, 2023, 07:24:26 AM

Quote from: inthelongrun on September 24, 2023, 06:56:10 AM

I also believe that Haney cannot handle getting hit by a powerful puncher like Prograis. He got wobbled by an old Linares and he looked hurt against Lomachencko as well. And he is also moving up in weight which means he is also fighting a bigger guy whom I believe will be stronger than him.

But maybe Haney learned a lot from his past experiences and is becoming better with his defense. While Prograis had a bad performance in his last fight some believe that he might be past his prime already and he is also in his mid-30s.

The question is, will Prograis be able to land punches on Haney? I mean, we know that Haney has mastered his defensive skills in boxing and has improved as he identified weaknesses in his previous fights. So, many still believe that Haney would win, despite being the challenger. While Prograis is known as a KO artist, Haney has faced KO artists in the past and has successfully handed them defeats.

Yes, we will have to see that, I think Regis will really go out early and test the chin of Haney from round 1 and see if it can hold or not.
And we all know that a power puncher like him will have to land at least one good punch.
Haney is very defensive, but we can see that he sometimes slip as well. Even in the Kambosos fight, he got tag a couple.
So it will be interesting on how Haney will deal the power if he tasted it, or will just play pure defense and win on the judges hands.

Haney is really fast. And it is also hard to land punches on a fighter who is faster than average. Personally, I think a fighter who is faster can actually gain an advantage over his opponent. But both of them are great fighters. And just because one is faster, compared to the other does not mean that the other fighter who can punch really powerfully is not going to be able to adapt. I think we have a very interesting fight upcoming. Haney will have to get out of the way of his opponent's hand if he wants to win this fight. Otherwise, he is definitely going to get knocked out for sure.

Kemarit

legendary

Activity: 3080

Merit: 1353

Quote from: freedomgo on September 24, 2023, 07:24:26 AM

Quote from: inthelongrun on September 24, 2023, 06:56:10 AM

I also believe that Haney cannot handle getting hit by a powerful puncher like Prograis. He got wobbled by an old Linares and he looked hurt against Lomachencko as well. And he is also moving up in weight which means he is also fighting a bigger guy whom I believe will be stronger than him.

But maybe Haney learned a lot from his past experiences and is becoming better with his defense. While Prograis had a bad performance in his last fight some believe that he might be past his prime already and he is also in his mid-30s.

The question is, will Prograis be able to land punches on Haney? I mean, we know that Haney has mastered his defensive skills in boxing and has improved as he identified weaknesses in his previous fights. So, many still believe that Haney would win, despite being the challenger. While Prograis is known as a KO artist, Haney has faced KO artists in the past and has successfully handed them defeats.

Yes, we will have to see that, I think Regis will really go out early and test the chin of Haney from round 1 and see if it can hold or not.
And we all know that a power puncher like him will have to land at least one good punch.
Haney is very defensive, but we can see that he sometimes slip as well. Even in the Kambosos fight, he got tag a couple.
So it will be interesting on how Haney will deal the power if he tasted it, or will just play pure defense and win on the judges hands.

freedomgo

legendary

Activity: 3248

Merit: 1160

Playbet.io - Crypto Casino and Sportsbook

Quote from: inthelongrun on September 24, 2023, 06:56:10 AM

I also believe that Haney cannot handle getting hit by a powerful puncher like Prograis. He got wobbled by an old Linares and he looked hurt against Lomachencko as well. And he is also moving up in weight which means he is also fighting a bigger guy whom I believe will be stronger than him.

But maybe Haney learned a lot from his past experiences and is becoming better with his defense. While Prograis had a bad performance in his last fight some believe that he might be past his prime already and he is also in his mid-30s.

The question is, will Prograis be able to land punches on Haney? I mean, we know that Haney has mastered his defensive skills in boxing and has improved as he identified weaknesses in his previous fights. So, many still believe that Haney would win, despite being the challenger. While Prograis is known as a KO artist, Haney has faced KO artists in the past and has successfully handed them defeats.

inthelongrun

hero member

Activity: 1862

Merit: 601

The Martian Child

Quote from: btc_angela on September 23, 2023, 11:15:54 PM

Quote from: Questat on September 19, 2023, 09:37:19 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on September 19, 2023, 05:52:05 AM

That's why this fight is going to be interesting and intriguing how Haney will handle the power of Regis, or if he can outbox a power puncher in full 12 rounds because sooner or later he will hit at least one good shot at Haney and we will see how he will react to it.

Haney should be able to handle that power by evading those punches. With his defensive style and quickness, he can frustrate Regis and disrupt his concentration during the fight. That's why it's understandable that even though Regis is the champion, sportsbooks still rate Haney as the favorite to win.

We really don't know that yet, if he can handle such power, just look at his fight against Linares, he wobbled after he got tagged,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpEmi1b6vZQ

So just imagine if a power puncher like Prograis can hit that maybe around 80%, for sure it might take a toll on Haney. No doubt that he is good in his defense, but he is not Floyd though, he can still be tag and feel the power of his opponents. It's just a matter before he can be touch by someone with a power and goes down and we will see if he can recover or not. So in this fight still a risk on Haney to keep his records, just saying.

I also believe that Haney cannot handle getting hit by a powerful puncher like Prograis. He got wobbled by an old Linares and he looked hurt against Lomachencko as well. And he is also moving up in weight which means he is also fighting a bigger guy whom I believe will be stronger than him.

But maybe Haney learned a lot from his past experiences and is becoming better with his defense. While Prograis had a bad performance in his last fight some believe that he might be past his prime already and he is also in his mid-30s.

btc_angela

hero member

Activity: 2660

Merit: 551

Quote from: Questat on September 19, 2023, 09:37:19 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on September 19, 2023, 05:52:05 AM

That's why this fight is going to be interesting and intriguing how Haney will handle the power of Regis, or if he can outbox a power puncher in full 12 rounds because sooner or later he will hit at least one good shot at Haney and we will see how he will react to it.

Haney should be able to handle that power by evading those punches. With his defensive style and quickness, he can frustrate Regis and disrupt his concentration during the fight. That's why it's understandable that even though Regis is the champion, sportsbooks still rate Haney as the favorite to win.

We really don't know that yet, if he can handle such power, just look at his fight against Linares, he wobbled after he got tagged,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpEmi1b6vZQ

So just imagine if a power puncher like Prograis can hit that maybe around 80%, for sure it might take a toll on Haney. No doubt that he is good in his defense, but he is not Floyd though, he can still be tag and feel the power of his opponents. It's just a matter before he can be touch by someone with a power and goes down and we will see if he can recover or not. So in this fight still a risk on Haney to keep his records, just saying.

Questat

hero member

Activity: 2982

Merit: 610

Quote from: btc_angela on September 19, 2023, 05:52:05 AM

That's why this fight is going to be interesting and intriguing how Haney will handle the power of Regis, or if he can outbox a power puncher in full 12 rounds because sooner or later he will hit at least one good shot at Haney and we will see how he will react to it.

Haney should be able to handle that power by evading those punches. With his defensive style and quickness, he can frustrate Regis and disrupt his concentration during the fight. That's why it's understandable that even though Regis is the champion, sportsbooks still rate Haney as the favorite to win.

btc_angela

hero member

Activity: 2660

Merit: 551

Quote from: OgNasty on September 18, 2023, 11:47:55 AM

I have no idea what the outcome of this fight will be and to be completely honest I don’t even know who Regis Prograis is, but I have heard Devin Haney in the news for Bradley Martin (a podcaster) saying he could kick Devin’s ass in a street fight. Whatever happens with this fight, I hope it leads to a match between Bradley & Devin.

And that is the thing with Regis and I think most of the 140 lbs fighters, they are not well known by casual fans (sorry Og). But Regis did give Josh Taylor a good fight, and if you are not well aware of, Josh was the former 140 lbs unified belt holder, meaning he holds the 4 major belts (WBC/WBO/WBA/IBF) in modern era.

That's why this fight is going to be interesting and intriguing how Haney will handle the power of Regis, or if he can outbox a power puncher in full 12 rounds because sooner or later he will hit at least one good shot at Haney and we will see how he will react to it.

inthelongrun

hero member

Activity: 1862

Merit: 601

The Martian Child

Quote from: freedomgo on September 18, 2023, 11:44:22 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on September 18, 2023, 07:05:27 AM

Quote from: inthelongrun on September 18, 2023, 06:57:17 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on September 17, 2023, 08:53:07 AM

^ I don't think that Haney has power though, he hasn't proved anything, when he got the belts from Kambosos and Loma it's all decision.
But if we are talking about Regis, yeah, I do believed and we know that he has the power at 140 lbs as he face a lot of good opposition here and has 82% knockout ratio. After his lost to Josh Taylor, he had 4 fight winning streak either by KO/TKO.
So I do agree that this is going to be very hard for Haney, the only way I see him winning his by using his technical skills again and try to outsmart Regis and obviously, not to get caught by that power.

We're also curious if Regis Prograis just had an off-night during his last fight and if he is already past his prime. Devin Haney picked him over lineal champion Teofimo Lopez for a reason. But still, I am hoping that Regis will be back to his usual self and land those big bombs on Haney.

Yes, I do agree, most likely, as least from what I see, he might be just an off night for Regis against Zorilla. But we should give credit to Zorilla, although he goes down in round 3, but was able to go to distance.
And also maybe the clash of style itself, Zorilla adjusted and just give everything he had that's why at least one of the judges score for him in a close and narrow 114-113. But the 2 judges have it for Regis to win the WBC belt.
So I guess Regis can still the pull the trigger and give Haney a good fight.

Let's not forget that they are still human beings like us who will make some mistakes along the road, I believe that the true strong boxers have their own share of losses and it will be their motivation to bounce back and fight like there's nothing to lose anymore. Sure those who were undefeated until they retire are strong but for me though, I'm not really impressed because they chose a much safer way.

This time, we will see if Haney will make his mistake because he chose Regis particularly as he believed that the latter is now weaker compared to Lopez. We will know it soon but I got a feeling that this will be Haney's first defeat.

The venue for this fight is in San Franciso, California which Devin Haney came from. The crowd is probably pro-Haney but hopefully, it won't be the case and they will boo him if he keeps on hugging and throwing illegal punches, especially during clinches.

In case Haney wins this fight. I really doubt the kid stays undefeated for long even if he cherry-picks a lot. I felt like his power is not that dangerous so more and more fighters won't be scared to risk moving forward to land their power shots.

OgNasty

donator

Activity: 4760

Merit: 4323

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

I have no idea what the outcome of this fight will be and to be completely honest I don’t even know who Regis Prograis is, but I have heard Devin Haney in the news for Bradley Martin (a podcaster) saying he could kick Devin’s ass in a street fight. Whatever happens with this fight, I hope it leads to a match between Bradley & Devin.

freedomgo

legendary

Activity: 3248

Merit: 1160

Playbet.io - Crypto Casino and Sportsbook

Quote from: Kemarit on September 18, 2023, 07:05:27 AM

Quote from: inthelongrun on September 18, 2023, 06:57:17 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on September 17, 2023, 08:53:07 AM

^ I don't think that Haney has power though, he hasn't proved anything, when he got the belts from Kambosos and Loma it's all decision.
But if we are talking about Regis, yeah, I do believed and we know that he has the power at 140 lbs as he face a lot of good opposition here and has 82% knockout ratio. After his lost to Josh Taylor, he had 4 fight winning streak either by KO/TKO.
So I do agree that this is going to be very hard for Haney, the only way I see him winning his by using his technical skills again and try to outsmart Regis and obviously, not to get caught by that power.

We're also curious if Regis Prograis just had an off-night during his last fight and if he is already past his prime. Devin Haney picked him over lineal champion Teofimo Lopez for a reason. But still, I am hoping that Regis will be back to his usual self and land those big bombs on Haney.

Yes, I do agree, most likely, as least from what I see, he might be just an off night for Regis against Zorilla. But we should give credit to Zorilla, although he goes down in round 3, but was able to go to distance.
And also maybe the clash of style itself, Zorilla adjusted and just give everything he had that's why at least one of the judges score for him in a close and narrow 114-113. But the 2 judges have it for Regis to win the WBC belt.
So I guess Regis can still the pull the trigger and give Haney a good fight.

Let's not forget that they are still human beings like us who will make some mistakes along the road, I believe that the true strong boxers have their own share of losses and it will be their motivation to bounce back and fight like there's nothing to lose anymore. Sure those who were undefeated until they retire are strong but for me though, I'm not really impressed because they chose a much safer way.

This time, we will see if Haney will make his mistake because he chose Regis particularly as he believed that the latter is now weaker compared to Lopez. We will know it soon but I got a feeling that this will be Haney's first defeat.

Kemarit

legendary

Activity: 3080

Merit: 1353

Quote from: inthelongrun on September 18, 2023, 06:57:17 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on September 17, 2023, 08:53:07 AM

^ I don't think that Haney has power though, he hasn't proved anything, when he got the belts from Kambosos and Loma it's all decision.
But if we are talking about Regis, yeah, I do believed and we know that he has the power at 140 lbs as he face a lot of good opposition here and has 82% knockout ratio. After his lost to Josh Taylor, he had 4 fight winning streak either by KO/TKO.
So I do agree that this is going to be very hard for Haney, the only way I see him winning his by using his technical skills again and try to outsmart Regis and obviously, not to get caught by that power.

We're also curious if Regis Prograis just had an off-night during his last fight and if he is already past his prime. Devin Haney picked him over lineal champion Teofimo Lopez for a reason. But still, I am hoping that Regis will be back to his usual self and land those big bombs on Haney.

Yes, I do agree, most likely, as least from what I see, he might be just an off night for Regis against Zorilla. But we should give credit to Zorilla, although he goes down in round 3, but was able to go to distance.
And also maybe the clash of style itself, Zorilla adjusted and just give everything he had that's why at least one of the judges score for him in a close and narrow 114-113. But the 2 judges have it for Regis to win the WBC belt.
So I guess Regis can still the pull the trigger and give Haney a good fight.

inthelongrun

hero member

Activity: 1862

Merit: 601

The Martian Child

Quote from: btc_angela on September 15, 2023, 09:10:33 AM

Last time I read, this fight is still a go, but the date has change and it's going to be around December 9. So that is a big push already from the original date of October, but just like the rest of you guys, the question is, is this a PPV worthy for us boxing fans? Or at least they should have streamed this for free?

I mean we have been discussing that they might be losing some money already here and so I'm thinking that it might be good if they will just go for free and so they won't be disappointed with the PPV numbers that will come later.

At least this fight is still happening. I can sense that Devin Haney won't fight Shakur Stevenson anyway even if this fight fails to materialize. And I don't think Haney is a PPV guy. He hugs a lot and he doesn't care about lack of action for as long as he wins. I would rather pay to see Regis Prograis than Haney although the former is not that popular among boxing casuals.

Quote from: Kemarit on September 17, 2023, 08:53:07 AM

^ I don't think that Haney has power though, he hasn't proved anything, when he got the belts from Kambosos and Loma it's all decision.
But if we are talking about Regis, yeah, I do believed and we know that he has the power at 140 lbs as he face a lot of good opposition here and has 82% knockout ratio. After his lost to Josh Taylor, he had 4 fight winning streak either by KO/TKO.
So I do agree that this is going to be very hard for Haney, the only way I see him winning his by using his technical skills again and try to outsmart Regis and obviously, not to get caught by that power.

We're also curious if Regis Prograis just had an off-night during his last fight and if he is already past his prime. Devin Haney picked him over lineal champion Teofimo Lopez for a reason. But still, I am hoping that Regis will be back to his usual self and land those big bombs on Haney.

Kemarit

legendary

Activity: 3080

Merit: 1353

^ I don't think that Haney has power though, he hasn't proved anything, when he got the belts from Kambosos and Loma it's all decision.
But if we are talking about Regis, yeah, I do believed and we know that he has the power at 140 lbs as he face a lot of good opposition here and has 82% knockout ratio. After his lost to Josh Taylor, he had 4 fight winning streak either by KO/TKO.
So I do agree that this is going to be very hard for Haney, the only way I see him winning his by using his technical skills again and try to outsmart Regis and obviously, not to get caught by that power.

Distinctin

hero member

Activity: 2926

Merit: 657

No dream is too big and no dreamer is too small

Quote from: btc_angela on September 17, 2023, 05:17:58 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on September 15, 2023, 10:41:25 AM

Quote from: Finestream on September 15, 2023, 10:17:13 AM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on September 15, 2023, 09:15:08 AM

^ I'm not really sure if this is a good idea to stream the fight for free, it's going to be a double black eye for Eddie Hearn if he do that. He might be paying Haney with big money already so with that, I think he has lost some money already as it's hard to promote Haney because we all know that he doesn't have that charisma to the boxing fans maybe because of his styles.

But if you look at his records, still very young and undefeated and undisputed at 135 lbs, so that is a big accomplished already. But for us boxing fans, we want some real action in the ring and doesn't like boxers who doesn't take risk, just saying.

I don't think that it is his style though, I mean, look at Shakur they are about the same style but the latter doesn't have any problems when it comes with selling a fight. Their only difference is that Haney being a champion, is a boring one and who don't even know how to market a fight successfully so that he can grab more cash money after the fight and not just his promoter alone. But no, he doesn't care about that because he got no passion about marketing a fight at all and if his last fight wasn't against Loma, I highly doubt that they can afford to gain a decent income.

Haney was just fortunate because the time were in favor of him that is why he managed to get those belts in a much easier way, some could argue that but I still think that he got all those four easily and without starting from scratch just to unify all those things on his possession. I mean, he waited for the guys to clash first before he makes his entrance so it'll be hitting two birds in just one stone.

But this time, he doesn't think anymore that his time is still on his side that is why he is making a move towards super-light and fight a champion, Regis. Although, there are still problems because it seems to me that they are still not on the same page that is why the contract is still hanging without any signature.

And even the boxing community is still divided if he really win against Loma to unify the belts. There are arguments that he lost the second half of the fight as Loma started to get into his groove and easily winning rounds. But he won already and he doesn't want to give Loma his rematch, although there could be no rematch clause that's why he is not forced to it.

There are indeed fans who believed he lost, much like some who think Mayweather wasn't undefeated because he lost to Castillo. The judges' decision was final, and if Loma wanted to secure a win, he should have dominated the fight. However, when we compare Loma to Haney, there's no question that Loma has a large fan base due to his boxing style. He isn't as boring as Haney.

Quote from: btc_angela on September 17, 2023, 05:17:58 AM

But he decided to move up in weight class, avoid another great boxer in Shakur at 135 lbs. But still though, it will not be an easy fight against a power puncher in Regis here, so there's still a big risk for the Haney's here ducking Stevenson at moving up directly to face the champion in Prograis.

Moving up and facing the champion is harder than staying and facing the challenger, as he has to prove himself all over again that he can carry his power. It's a gamble on his part, so let's see if he can continue dominating as he did in the division he left.

btc_angela

hero member

Activity: 2660

Merit: 551

Quote from: Russlenat on September 15, 2023, 10:41:25 AM

Quote from: Finestream on September 15, 2023, 10:17:13 AM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on September 15, 2023, 09:15:08 AM

^ I'm not really sure if this is a good idea to stream the fight for free, it's going to be a double black eye for Eddie Hearn if he do that. He might be paying Haney with big money already so with that, I think he has lost some money already as it's hard to promote Haney because we all know that he doesn't have that charisma to the boxing fans maybe because of his styles.

But if you look at his records, still very young and undefeated and undisputed at 135 lbs, so that is a big accomplished already. But for us boxing fans, we want some real action in the ring and doesn't like boxers who doesn't take risk, just saying.

I don't think that it is his style though, I mean, look at Shakur they are about the same style but the latter doesn't have any problems when it comes with selling a fight. Their only difference is that Haney being a champion, is a boring one and who don't even know how to market a fight successfully so that he can grab more cash money after the fight and not just his promoter alone. But no, he doesn't care about that because he got no passion about marketing a fight at all and if his last fight wasn't against Loma, I highly doubt that they can afford to gain a decent income.

Haney was just fortunate because the time were in favor of him that is why he managed to get those belts in a much easier way, some could argue that but I still think that he got all those four easily and without starting from scratch just to unify all those things on his possession. I mean, he waited for the guys to clash first before he makes his entrance so it'll be hitting two birds in just one stone.

But this time, he doesn't think anymore that his time is still on his side that is why he is making a move towards super-light and fight a champion, Regis. Although, there are still problems because it seems to me that they are still not on the same page that is why the contract is still hanging without any signature.

And even the boxing community is still divided if he really win against Loma to unify the belts. There are arguments that he lost the second half of the fight as Loma started to get into his groove and easily winning rounds. But he won already and he doesn't want to give Loma his rematch, although there could be no rematch clause that's why he is not forced to it.

But he decided to move up in weight class, avoid another great boxer in Shakur at 135 lbs. But still though, it will not be an easy fight against a power puncher in Regis here, so there's still a big risk for the Haney's here ducking Stevenson at moving up directly to face the champion in Prograis.

Topic: Boxing: Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney (9th of December) - page 8. (Read 1819 times)