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I wish this match happened with both fighters equally young. Right now this fight is tilted towards Haney because he is clearly at the top of his game. He is young. He is very athletic and hungry. Prograis could have much higher chances if he was as young as Haney. Although he is still a great boxer who can give Haney a good match and he has also got those powerful punches, I think Haney can easily manage to maintain a good distance and win by points.

Haney, for me, is never really an exciting fighter compared to Davis who can deliver KOs all the time but he is a technical yet also boring fighter but definitely great with his footwork. He the kind of boxer who punches his opponent for the reason of just stopping their aggression in the ring and he is happy to see his points go up. 

Since Regis is also a great boxer, the result will probably be the same as how Haney ended half of his fights which is by Decision.

We all know that Haney falls into the category of kinda boring boxers—there aren't many, but they're all unbeaten. Personally, I believe that boxing is as much about putting on a show as it is about competing. I mean, a boxer would get more love if they could both win the match and keep the crowd entertained simultaneously. But with Haney, it's all about that "W" – the entertainment factor is usually missing in action in most, if not all, of his fights.

Right now though, one good example that wanted to engage and still got that W is Davis. But he is not a real champion and he should step up his level of competition but it's seems his camp doesn't want to do that.

But there are also boxers that is pure on defense like Haney and majority of boxing fans, doesn't want that kind of show. We wanted old school fighters, like Mike Tyson or even the legendary Manny Pacquiao. Not afraid to lose and doesn't have that defense mentality. His best defense is his offense.
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Haney, for me, is never really an exciting fighter compared to Davis who can deliver KOs all the time but he is a technical yet also boring fighter but definitely great with his footwork. He the kind of boxer who punches his opponent for the reason of just stopping their aggression in the ring and he is happy to see his points go up. 

Since Regis is also a great boxer, the result will probably be the same as how Haney ended half of his fights which is by Decision.

After watching Shakur Stevenson's performance earlier this month I am glad those two are not facing each other. We were spared from what surely would have been a boring chess match. Both, Shakur and Haney, act like tough guys on social media but they turn into pussy cats when they are inside the ring. Over the weekend we saw that technical fighters like Demetrius Andrade can be beaten with aggression. It can be frustrating for an opponent when they are missing punches but it is necessary to remain calm and continue applying pressure.

And there will be boos from the fans after that snoozer fight, both defensive fighter, each one of them doesn't want to engage. Just surprised though has Shakur did against Edwin De Los Santos in their fight. Not sure what he is, maybe he felt the power and so he just decided to go on a bicycle.

Regis though doesn't believed that Haney is what we call defensive fighter. So that's good though, both of them are trying to negate each other's strength so hopefully it will not be a chess match as Regis look for that knockout.
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Haney, for me, is never really an exciting fighter compared to Davis who can deliver KOs all the time but he is a technical yet also boring fighter but definitely great with his footwork. He the kind of boxer who punches his opponent for the reason of just stopping their aggression in the ring and he is happy to see his points go up. 

Since Regis is also a great boxer, the result will probably be the same as how Haney ended half of his fights which is by Decision.

After watching Shakur Stevenson's performance earlier this month I am glad those two are not facing each other. We were spared from what surely would have been a boring chess match. Both, Shakur and Haney, act like tough guys on social media but they turn into pussy cats when they are inside the ring. Over the weekend we saw that technical fighters like Demetrius Andrade can be beaten with aggression. It can be frustrating for an opponent when they are missing punches but it is necessary to remain calm and continue applying pressure.
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But with Haney, it's all about that "W" – the entertainment factor is usually missing in action in most, if not all, of his fights.

LOL, yeah, it's a bit sad but true. He's got that Mayweather style in him. It would be a amazing to witness if someone could really give him a challenging fight. Fingers crossed that Prograis might be the one to shake things up. I'm betting Prograis and his team are cooking up some strategies to counter Haney's style and come out on top.

With the fight just a few weeks away, time's flying! I hope they've cranked up the marketing strat to make this showdown a success, both at the venue and on PPV so they'll enjoy that sweet revenue, right?

His fight with Linares was actually one of his entertaining fights where he was forced to fight toe to toe. Almost beaten by that veteran but most of it is initiated by Linares. It's when you can find out that he really can open up to risk his chin in order for him to have a chance to counter. But this is when he finds out Linares isn't as fast as he was in his prime days but to sum it up there is a good exchange in that fight. So far nothing else even if you watch his old fights.
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But with Haney, it's all about that "W" – the entertainment factor is usually missing in action in most, if not all, of his fights.

LOL, yeah, it's a bit sad but true. He's got that Mayweather style in him. It would be a amazing to witness if someone could really give him a challenging fight. Fingers crossed that Prograis might be the one to shake things up. I'm betting Prograis and his team are cooking up some strategies to counter Haney's style and come out on top.

With the fight just a few weeks away, time's flying! I hope they've cranked up the marketing strat to make this showdown a success, both at the venue and on PPV so they'll enjoy that sweet revenue, right?
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I wish this match happened with both fighters equally young. Right now this fight is tilted towards Haney because he is clearly at the top of his game. He is young. He is very athletic and hungry. Prograis could have much higher chances if he was as young as Haney. Although he is still a great boxer who can give Haney a good match and he has also got those powerful punches, I think Haney can easily manage to maintain a good distance and win by points.

Haney, for me, is never really an exciting fighter compared to Davis who can deliver KOs all the time but he is a technical yet also boring fighter but definitely great with his footwork. He the kind of boxer who punches his opponent for the reason of just stopping their aggression in the ring and he is happy to see his points go up. 

Since Regis is also a great boxer, the result will probably be the same as how Haney ended half of his fights which is by Decision.

We all know that Haney falls into the category of kinda boring boxers—there aren't many, but they're all unbeaten. Personally, I believe that boxing is as much about putting on a show as it is about competing. I mean, a boxer would get more love if they could both win the match and keep the crowd entertained simultaneously. But with Haney, it's all about that "W" – the entertainment factor is usually missing in action in most, if not all, of his fights.
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I wish this match happened with both fighters equally young. Right now this fight is tilted towards Haney because he is clearly at the top of his game. He is young. He is very athletic and hungry. Prograis could have much higher chances if he was as young as Haney. Although he is still a great boxer who can give Haney a good match and he has also got those powerful punches, I think Haney can easily manage to maintain a good distance and win by points.

Haney, for me, is never really an exciting fighter compared to Davis who can deliver KOs all the time but he is a technical yet also boring fighter but definitely great with his footwork. He the kind of boxer who punches his opponent for the reason of just stopping their aggression in the ring and he is happy to see his points go up. 

Since Regis is also a great boxer, the result will probably be the same as how Haney ended half of his fights which is by Decision.
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I wish this match happened with both fighters equally young. Right now this fight is tilted towards Haney because he is clearly at the top of his game. He is young. He is very athletic and hungry. Prograis could have much higher chances if he was as young as Haney. Although he is still a great boxer who can give Haney a good match and he has also got those powerful punches, I think Haney can easily manage to maintain a good distance and win by points.
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^^ Yes, all roads to Teo Lopez, as he is the man in the 140 lbs, he beat the unified champion and so he is the lineal champion. And it's good that he is just quite though and in the background. Although he was in the fight of Shakur and Delos Santos a week.

And so I guess he will be watching this fight too at close and he could be in the audience again. And whoever wins here, they really have to go to Teo Lopez to call themselves the best at 140 lbs.

I think I also noticed Teofimo during Shakur's fight last week. He may have fallen to sleep too. Imagine if Prograis-Haney is another boring one especially if Haney jabs then runs away and hugs to avoid exchanges. Cheesy

It was a snoozer fight whichever way we see that fight, Shakur doesn't want to engage with De Los Santos.

Would be cool if Teofimo would be in attendance again in this fight and would climb up the ring to dare the winner to face the man of the division. Pretty sure Teofimo Lopez likes to fight any of the champions and the big names in this division. Top Rank's boss Bob Arum is also easier to negotiate if his fighter is the favorite. I actually prefer a Teofimo vs Prograis unification duel. Both are hard hitters, power may favor slightly the WBC champion but the WBO champ also has better skills.

I'm expecting that he will be in attendance again to see a closer look at this two. Potential opponents for him in the future, whoever gets the belt. If Prograis pull a upset, then it's going to be a great fight as both loves to engage and go toe to toe.

But if it will be Haney, Lopez will have to devise a different approach as Haney is more of a defensive fighter. But Lopez could have the tools to give Haney his first lost if ever they will face.

I just imagine though if Lopez after his contract with TR goes to PBC, same with Ryan Garcia ending his contract with GBP and then goes to PBC as well. All in house money for PBC as they could have the majority of the champions that time.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r9iBsLBjU8

Heated 1:1 face-off. Lots of interesting topic touches in the face-off like Prograis accusing Haney of cleaning up his record to appear that he hasn't lost. But according to Regis, he got one lost erased form his records in his Mexico fight.

Haney knows that Prograis best weapon in the left hand, but Regis says that he is going to hit Haney with that left.

Bill Haney in the background is just laughing, having a good time with what Regis is saying.  Grin
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^^ Yes, all roads to Teo Lopez, as he is the man in the 140 lbs, he beat the unified champion and so he is the lineal champion. And it's good that he is just quite though and in the background. Although he was in the fight of Shakur and Delos Santos a week.

And so I guess he will be watching this fight too at close and he could be in the audience again. And whoever wins here, they really have to go to Teo Lopez to call themselves the best at 140 lbs.

I think I also noticed Teofimo during Shakur's fight last week. He may have fallen to sleep too. Imagine if Prograis-Haney is another boring one especially if Haney jabs then runs away and hugs to avoid exchanges. Cheesy

Would be cool if Teofimo would be in attendance again in this fight and would climb up the ring to dare the winner to face the man of the division. Pretty sure Teofimo Lopez likes to fight any of the champions and the big names in this division. Top Rank's boss Bob Arum is also easier to negotiate if his fighter is the favorite. I actually prefer a Teofimo vs Prograis unification duel. Both are hard hitters, power may favor slightly the WBC champion but the WBO champ also has better skills.
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^^ Yes, all roads lead to Teo Lopez, as he is the man in the 140 lbs, he beat the unified champion and so he is the lineal champion. And it's good that he is just quite though and in the background. Although he was in the fight of Shakur and Delos Santos a week.

And so I guess he will be watching this fight too at close and he could be in the audience again. And whoever wins here, they really have to go to Teo Lopez to call themselves the best at 140 lbs.
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But about Garcia against Duarte, I expect this fight closer than most people see. I get it that Duarte is only a 135-fighter and is exploited by Garcia to move up in weight. But I think Duarte is very much capable of beating Garcia especially if he comes up stronger and makes the fight a brawl. Otherwise, Garcia will stay on the outside, and use his jabs and straights. We are also going to see if Garcia has more weapons in his sleeve now after joining Derrick James. And speaking of Derrick James; Errol Spence, and Anthony Joshua left him so the main focus will be Garcia.

Duarte looks solid in paper so yeah, this could be really a close fight. And again, we will see if Garcia learn a new trick under James now as his coach. And hopefully he can have another world champion in his stable. I'm not aware that Errol Spence has left his though, I thought this two are tight as brothers. But perhaps James could have been criticized with new plans or strategy and didn't give Spence any advise on the fly during his fight with Crawford.

At the moment the odds for Duarte is at x3.50 while only 1.24 for Garcia. I'm sure this would've been closer on paper but most gamblers are into Garcia especially since he has a huge following. We'll find out if James' new fighter is ready for a title shot after this fight.

Let's go back to the topic and not talk about Garcia vs Duarte as they have their own thread.

This fight is still in December, and there's one interview on Prograis and I quote,

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“I feel like this fight is me stepping into my superstardom. That's what it is. It's me getting what I deserve.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/regis-prograis-on-haney-showdown-this-fight-me-stepping-into-my-superstardom--179366

It could be true that he might be recognized as the man in 140 lbs right now if he beat Devin Haney. As we have said, he is a live dog because he has the power to knock out anyone at this division and Haney has a weak chin.

But there is still another man in Teofimo Lopez before Prograis can lay to the crown at 140 lbs.



It's good that Prograis is feeling hungry to become the man in this division. He needs it because Haney is also training hard. Haney knew that he was beatable in his last fight against Loma which is why he will try to correct the mistakes. Haney also trained with Freddie Roach. Prograis is not as quick as Loma though but he is sure capable of knocking out Haney with a clean shot.

It's right though, if Praograis can defend his belt against Haney, he still needs to beat the lineal champ which is Teofimo Lopez.
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Let's go back to the topic and not talk about Garcia vs Duarte as they have their own thread.

This fight is still in December, and there's one interview on Prograis and I quote,

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“I feel like this fight is me stepping into my superstardom. That's what it is. It's me getting what I deserve.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/regis-prograis-on-haney-showdown-this-fight-me-stepping-into-my-superstardom--179366

It could be true that he might be recognized as the man in 140 lbs right now if he beat Devin Haney. As we have said, he is a live dog because he has the power to knock out anyone at this division and Haney has a weak chin.

But there is still another man in Teofimo Lopez before Prograis can lay to the crown at 140 lbs.

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I think Ryan has still a fight left at least after his fight to Oscar Duarte.

Oscar dela Hoya says that they are looking at AB, Teo and Haney as his next opponent. So let's see how it will turn out, if he wins and then Haney wins against Prograis, it's going to be a money fight between him and Haney.

Just a matter of negotiations and who will be the A-side. However, with him and Oscar's experience negotiating with Davis to make a super fight, I think it will be done as well.

So depends on this fight and then Ryan winning against Duarte. And the good thing is that their fight is just a weeks apart and with that, we will know the results and maybe next year we might see it.

Hopefully, Oscar will put Garcia in the lions' den next if he beats Duarte unless they'll get Broner who's an easy fight but still a marketable fighter. But I am still doubtful of Garcia's willingness to fight for the WBC belt if Haney wins in a flawless fashion over Prograis. But if Prograis wins, it'll be an explosive fight between him and Garcia.

But by the sounds of it, they are looking to Adrien Broner next? doesn't look good though if this is the route the Golden Boy wanted for Garcia. However, it boils down on the money here, it seems the Haney feels that he is the A side on every fight so there could be a big contention on the split. But if Garcia is more willing to do that just like the negotiation against Tank Davis, giving up a lot, then this fight could be made.

But about Garcia against Duarte, I expect this fight closer than most people see. I get it that Duarte is only a 135-fighter and is exploited by Garcia to move up in weight. But I think Duarte is very much capable of beating Garcia especially if he comes up stronger and makes the fight a brawl. Otherwise, Garcia will stay on the outside, and use his jabs and straights. We are also going to see if Garcia has more weapons in his sleeve now after joining Derrick James. And speaking of Derrick James; Errol Spence, and Anthony Joshua left him so the main focus will be Garcia.

Duarte looks solid in paper so yeah, this could be really a close fight. And again, we will see if Garcia learn a new trick under James now as his coach. And hopefully he can have another world champion in his stable. I'm not aware that Errol Spence has left his though, I thought this two are tight as brothers. But perhaps James could have been criticized with new plans or strategy and didn't give Spence any advise on the fly during his fight with Crawford.
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I think Ryan has still a fight left at least after his fight to Oscar Duarte.

Oscar dela Hoya says that they are looking at AB, Teo and Haney as his next opponent. So let's see how it will turn out, if he wins and then Haney wins against Prograis, it's going to be a money fight between him and Haney.

Just a matter of negotiations and who will be the A-side. However, with him and Oscar's experience negotiating with Davis to make a super fight, I think it will be done as well.

So depends on this fight and then Ryan winning against Duarte. And the good thing is that their fight is just a weeks apart and with that, we will know the results and maybe next year we might see it.

Hopefully, Oscar will put Garcia in the lions' den next if he beats Duarte unless they'll get Broner who's an easy fight but still a marketable fighter. But I am still doubtful of Garcia's willingness to fight for the WBC belt if Haney wins in a flawless fashion over Prograis. But if Prograis wins, it'll be an explosive fight between him and Garcia.

But about Garcia against Duarte, I expect this fight closer than most people see. I get it that Duarte is only a 135-fighter and is exploited by Garcia to move up in weight. But I think Duarte is very much capable of beating Garcia especially if he comes up stronger and makes the fight a brawl. Otherwise, Garcia will stay on the outside, and use his jabs and straights. We are also going to see if Garcia has more weapons in his sleeve now after joining Derrick James. And speaking of Derrick James; Errol Spence, and Anthony Joshua left him so the main focus will be Garcia.
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Oscar dela Hoya says that they are looking at AB, Teo and Haney as his next opponent.
Do you mean Adrien Broner, the 'About Billions' guy? I think his ranking isn't on par with Ryan, or we could say that he's past his prime.

Maybe a matchup with Teo and Haney would be good for Garcia. However, if we're looking for an entertaining fight, Teo could deliver in that regard.

So depends on this fight and then Ryan winning against Duarte. And the good thing is that their fight is just a weeks apart and with that, we will know the results and maybe next year we might see it.

One step at a time, he needs to achieve a successful comeback first. Hopefully, he'll train hard and not underestimate Duarte so that he can secure a win.

Additionally, the victory needs to be impressive, especially since they are aiming for matchups against big names in boxing, all of whom are champions, except for AB.
That will be an explosive fight, Haney vs Garcia, or Lopez vs Garcia, or even Haney vs Lopez. We have anticipated that this fight is going to happen at 135 lbs, but all of them outgrow that division so they move to 140 lbs. And now that Lopez has one of the belts, and then Haney chasing another one, Garcia fighting a dangerous fighter in Duarte and needs to win in order to have his name in the mix again.

But then again, with his massive following, Ryan Garcia's name is one of the most hype regardless of what weight classes he will be in. That's why I think this fight is going to be made next year and it's going to be doable because of the huge money in the line.
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The fight between Ryan Garcia and Oscar Duarte hasn't even started yet and they are now planning another.
@Baofeng, you are right he will still have a fight even if he is defeated by Duarte. This is the proof of it.  Cheesy
https://boxing-social.com/news/ryan-garcia-called-out-by-former-champ/
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It’s no secret that Garcia wants big names, and the President of Golden Boy Promotions, Eric Gomez, recently revealed that they had reached out to one Adrien Broner to start talks.

Broner has now responded, claiming that he knew nothing of the approach and rubbishing the idea that he would ever turn it down.
But it seems like Broner has no knowledge about it yet.
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“Golden Boy, I never knew about the offer [for] the fight with Ryan Garcia. I’m just now finding out about that as we speak, but I’m here to let you know that I don’t need a tune up for s**t. After Ryan takes care of business in December we can make it happen ASAP. I’m the same person who fought Manny Pacquiao, why the f**k will I be afraid of saving private Ryan – SEND THE CONTRACT.”
Golden Boy really likes Ryan and I think even if he is defeated many times they will keep on sending him to the boxing ring against anyone.

Ryan Garcia did make a name in the boxing industry and he is young. Veteran boxers would love to have a shot against him to prove that they still have it too. I mean, fighting a young boxer with an advantage in speed and agility will be a good competition for them and somehow this may also put them in the spotlight to get another good fight before their retirement. Money.
Broner doesn't want a tune-up. Let it be official but I don't if that will happen if Ryan Garcia wins this fight on December 2.


Yeah, but maybe the camp of Ryan Garcia is just waiting for the fight to happen and they should win against Duarte. And it's Broner's trainer who have responded,

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“If Ryan’s successful with whoever this guy is on December 2nd, AB is preparing right now to give Ryan the ass whooping he’s looking for next. My young prodigy De Von Williams is perfect sparring for AB to prepare for Ryan. As a matter of fact I think he beats Ryan too. Let’s stop the capping Golden Boy and send a proposal and it’s on.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/broners-trainer-ab-training-give-ryan-garcia-ass-whooping-hes-looking--179139

Most likely this is just Ryan hyping his name again and they are thinking that Broner could be a good fighter to have in his resume. Just imagine this two trash talking leading up to the fight. Ryan is not backing down with all this trash talking, so it's a interesting fight if this is going to be made by Oscar and GBP. Win win as well for Broner, he is not at his prime anymore but still will get a good exposure and paycheck fighting a young Ryan Garcia at 140 lbs.
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Oscar dela Hoya says that they are looking at AB, Teo and Haney as his next opponent.
Do you mean Adrien Broner, the 'About Billions' guy? I think his ranking isn't on par with Ryan, or we could say that he's past his prime.

Maybe a matchup with Teo and Haney would be good for Garcia. However, if we're looking for an entertaining fight, Teo could deliver in that regard.

So depends on this fight and then Ryan winning against Duarte. And the good thing is that their fight is just a weeks apart and with that, we will know the results and maybe next year we might see it.

One step at a time, he needs to achieve a successful comeback first. Hopefully, he'll train hard and not underestimate Duarte so that he can secure a win.

Additionally, the victory needs to be impressive, especially since they are aiming for matchups against big names in boxing, all of whom are champions, except for AB.
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The fight between Ryan Garcia and Oscar Duarte hasn't even started yet and they are now planning another.
@Baofeng, you are right he will still have a fight even if he is defeated by Duarte. This is the proof of it.  Cheesy
https://boxing-social.com/news/ryan-garcia-called-out-by-former-champ/
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It’s no secret that Garcia wants big names, and the President of Golden Boy Promotions, Eric Gomez, recently revealed that they had reached out to one Adrien Broner to start talks.

Broner has now responded, claiming that he knew nothing of the approach and rubbishing the idea that he would ever turn it down.
But it seems like Broner has no knowledge about it yet.
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“Golden Boy, I never knew about the offer [for] the fight with Ryan Garcia. I’m just now finding out about that as we speak, but I’m here to let you know that I don’t need a tune up for s**t. After Ryan takes care of business in December we can make it happen ASAP. I’m the same person who fought Manny Pacquiao, why the f**k will I be afraid of saving private Ryan – SEND THE CONTRACT.”
Golden Boy really likes Ryan and I think even if he is defeated many times they will keep on sending him to the boxing ring against anyone.

Ryan Garcia did make a name in the boxing industry and he is young. Veteran boxers would love to have a shot against him to prove that they still have it too. I mean, fighting a young boxer with an advantage in speed and agility will be a good competition for them and somehow this may also put them in the spotlight to get another good fight before their retirement. Money.
Broner doesn't want a tune-up. Let it be official but I don't if that will happen if Ryan Garcia wins this fight on December 2.
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