[BOXING]: RYAN GARCIA vs EMMANUEL TAGOE - April 9 - page 13.

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Quote from: coolcoinz on March 18, 2022, 06:50:16 PM

If you think like this there's a lot of money to be made because the majority seems to think that Tagoe has slim chance of winning. I don't know him and his style so I can't say much but I'm sure people who know much more than me are taking these bets. At this point it's almost 87% of bets for Garcia, which means he's either greatly outmatched or underestimated.
I feel like this is mainly because of how Garcia is being promoted and that they're matching him with boxers with good record but who are slower than him to give him an upper hand.

Of course, this is a comeback fight and you don't mess your comeback fight, Garcia's promoter will not blow up their cash cow's chances to make an impressive comeback, so they get a challenger with a good record that he can dispose of easily so Garcia will look good and impressive and ready to challenge all the greats to champion that he failed to face because of his depression, hopefully, the script will play as they expected I also love to see Garcia back again.

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Those are great fighters but again with this match, i guess it been a tough decision making for gamblers who support on this but for me I go for Ryan Garcia we know he so fast to take any action and counter and also he has good footwork for having a speed reaction and make a good blow to the enemy but again we cannot underestimate Emmanuel Tagoe because he got the IBO lightweight that boxer really dream to fight each other so we cant wait for this fight.

It's quite too soon for me to take bets on this fight, 3 weeks left before the fight and maybe there's still a lot of going to happen prior the fight. I guess I'll wait more for some tip-off Grin

Garcia's speed, power and capabilities is really an advantage in his side to any opponent he will face in his whole career and the fact that he used to train with Canelo's team is also a huge plus to make some smart move in the ring, I just hope that he will stay healthy because man, this boy really have a bright future. Back to this fight, Tagoe here is also a decent boxer so I doubt that this will be an easy fight.

If you think like this there's a lot of money to be made because the majority seems to think that Tagoe has slim chance of winning. I don't know him and his style so I can't say much but I'm sure people who know much more than me are taking these bets. At this point it's almost 87% of bets for Garcia, which means he's either greatly outmatched or underestimated.
I feel like this is mainly because of how Garcia is being promoted and that they're matching him with boxers with good record but who are slower than him to give him an upper hand.

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Quote from: Jating on March 18, 2022, 03:26:22 PM

That's what I noticed about Ryan too, he was really in a hurry at his young age, that's why he become so careless against Campbell and lose focus for a minute and then boom, he was down in the canvass. The advantage of being young is that he was able to get up from that fight and win. But it shows that he has weaknesses already, unlike those other champions in this division who haven't seen the canvass yet. So this fight is a measuring stick for him and Golden Boy to see if Ryan has the mentality to win fights maybe before they put him against the champions like Kambosos or Haney and of course Davis.

He also needs to be a technical fighter and not rush into something he is not so sure about his moves. Yes, he is young but it is not about the stamina or youth in boxing ring, it is a combination of different factors to survive long in this sports. Of course, the opponent will always look for his weakness and they will possibly work from there. So Garcia's camp should not be very confident about this upcoming fight.

Garcia's biggest weakness is anxiety and depression and this will come out when there's a big challenge ahead, Tagoe is not a big challenge to him compared to if he is going to fight the likes of Haney or Tank I like to see him one day fighting an A-class fighter from there we can see if he is really cured of his anxiety, but of course, he needs to get fast Tagoe first.

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Quote from: Jating on March 18, 2022, 03:26:22 PM

That's what I noticed about Ryan too, he was really in a hurry at his young age, that's why he become so careless against Campbell and lose focus for a minute and then boom, he was down in the canvass. The advantage of being young is that he was able to get up from that fight and win. But it shows that he has weaknesses already, unlike those other champions in this division who haven't seen the canvass yet. So this fight is a measuring stick for him and Golden Boy to see if Ryan has the mentality to win fights maybe before they put him against the champions like Kambosos or Haney and of course Davis.

He also needs to be a technical fighter and not rush into something he is not so sure about his moves. Yes, he is young but it is not about the stamina or youth in boxing ring, it is a combination of different factors to survive long in this sports. Of course, the opponent will always look for his weakness and they will possibly work from there. So Garcia's camp should not be very confident about this upcoming fight.

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That's what I noticed about Ryan too, he was really in a hurry at his young age, that's why he become so careless against Campbell and lose focus for a minute and then boom, he was down in the canvass. The advantage of being young is that he was able to get up from that fight and win. But it shows that he has weaknesses already, unlike those other champions in this division who haven't seen the canvass yet. So this fight is a measuring stick for him and Golden Boy to see if Ryan has the mentality to win fights maybe before they put him against the champions like Kambosos or Haney and of course Davis.

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Quote from: Rufsilf on March 18, 2022, 01:41:19 PM

Quote from: mirakal on March 18, 2022, 10:57:23 AM

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on March 18, 2022, 10:48:07 AM

The undefeated Garcia should have made 2021 his year. While Garcia should get the job done, this fight is about Garcia getting his rhythm back and showing everyone that his mental health issues and his hand injury are water under the bridge.

I have also not seen anything negative about his physical injury issues in the last months. Joe Goossen has really contributed to getting Ryan Garcia back on his legs and back in the ring. He is a really good trainer.

The fight against Emmanuel Tagoe will defintely be the start of something special for Garcia.

Exactly! This fight is just a comeback to show the whole boxing world and industry that his issues are just minor and there's nothing to worry about it. We cannot forget that this is just an interim fight before Garcia faces Kambosos Jr. and in the same manner, there's some huge reasons why Garcia's camp and Golden Boy Promotions have choosen Tagoe despite that the latter have some good and decent experience in his career.

I share the same point of view with you mate.

This fight is just all about Garcia to make his name good again after all the rest he did and that he's in perfect shape either mentally and physically and of course to redeem his name again from his match against Cambell because even if he won last time, he was also was knocked out. We don't know why they picked Tagoe as his interim fight but I know there's a reason behind it, after all their goal is to defeat Kambosos Jr.

Knock down, is what you mean, they picked Tagoe perhaps they think that it's going to be an easy fight because this is a comeback. For now the target is Kambosos, but Kambosos will have a fight this year to defend his belt, if by chance he loses that one then the goal will chance. So the best thing for Ryan is not to look forward for any fight in the future, beat Tagoe first, and forget about what happen to the Campbell fight. His future is still very bright as he is young and there are a lot of opportunities for him if he will win against Tagoe and it will be good if it is by knock out to bring the hype again on his name.

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Quote from: Rufsilf on March 18, 2022, 01:41:19 PM

Quote from: mirakal on March 18, 2022, 10:57:23 AM

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on March 18, 2022, 10:48:07 AM

The undefeated Garcia should have made 2021 his year. While Garcia should get the job done, this fight is about Garcia getting his rhythm back and showing everyone that his mental health issues and his hand injury are water under the bridge.

I have also not seen anything negative about his physical injury issues in the last months. Joe Goossen has really contributed to getting Ryan Garcia back on his legs and back in the ring. He is a really good trainer.

The fight against Emmanuel Tagoe will defintely be the start of something special for Garcia.

Exactly! This fight is just a comeback to show the whole boxing world and industry that his issues are just minor and there's nothing to worry about it. We cannot forget that this is just an interim fight before Garcia faces Kambosos Jr. and in the same manner, there's some huge reasons why Garcia's camp and Golden Boy Promotions have choosen Tagoe despite that the latter have some good and decent experience in his career.

I share the same point of view with you mate.

This fight is just all about Garcia to make his name good again after all the rest he did and that he's in perfect shape either mentally and physically and of course to redeem his name again from his match against Cambell because even if he won last time, he was also was knocked out. We don't know why they picked Tagoe as his interim fight but I know there's a reason behind it, after all their goal is to defeat Kambosos Jr.

Sure Ryan Garcia already has a plan after this fight, and I believe it's going to be a big fight. Kambosos Jr. if he will fight Ryan Garcia, I think he will struggle as the latter is faster than Teofimo Lopez and of course match the size of Kambasos Jr.

Ryan Garcia is 5′ 10″ while George Kambosos Jr is 5′ 9½″, on reach, Garcia also has the edge.

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Quote from: mirakal on March 18, 2022, 10:57:23 AM

Quote from: goldkingcoiner on March 18, 2022, 10:48:07 AM

The undefeated Garcia should have made 2021 his year. While Garcia should get the job done, this fight is about Garcia getting his rhythm back and showing everyone that his mental health issues and his hand injury are water under the bridge.

I have also not seen anything negative about his physical injury issues in the last months. Joe Goossen has really contributed to getting Ryan Garcia back on his legs and back in the ring. He is a really good trainer.

The fight against Emmanuel Tagoe will defintely be the start of something special for Garcia.

Exactly! This fight is just a comeback to show the whole boxing world and industry that his issues are just minor and there's nothing to worry about it. We cannot forget that this is just an interim fight before Garcia faces Kambosos Jr. and in the same manner, there's some huge reasons why Garcia's camp and Golden Boy Promotions have choosen Tagoe despite that the latter have some good and decent experience in his career.

I share the same point of view with you mate.

This fight is just all about Garcia to make his name good again after all the rest he did and that he's in perfect shape either mentally and physically and of course to redeem his name again from his match against Cambell because even if he won last time, he was also was knocked out. We don't know why they picked Tagoe as his interim fight but I know there's a reason behind it, after all their goal is to defeat Kambosos Jr.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on March 18, 2022, 09:36:30 AM

Those are great fighters but again with this match, i guess it been a tough decision making for gamblers who support on this but for me I go for Ryan Garcia we know he so fast to take any action and counter and also he has good footwork for having a speed reaction and make a good blow to the enemy but again we cannot underestimate Emmanuel Tagoe because he got the IBO lightweight that boxer really dream to fight each other so we cant wait for this fight.

It's quite too soon for me to take bets on this fight, 3 weeks left before the fight and maybe there's still a lot of going to happen prior the fight. I guess I'll wait more for some tip-off Grin

Garcia's speed, power and capabilities is really an advantage in his side to any opponent he will face in his whole career and the fact that he used to train with Canelo's team is also a huge plus to make some smart move in the ring, I just hope that he will stay healthy because man, this boy really have a bright future. Back to this fight, Tagoe here is also a decent boxer so I doubt that this will be an easy fight.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on March 18, 2022, 10:48:07 AM

The undefeated Garcia should have made 2021 his year. While Garcia should get the job done, this fight is about Garcia getting his rhythm back and showing everyone that his mental health issues and his hand injury are water under the bridge.

I have also not seen anything negative about his physical injury issues in the last months. Joe Goossen has really contributed to getting Ryan Garcia back on his legs and back in the ring. He is a really good trainer.

The fight against Emmanuel Tagoe will defintely be the start of something special for Garcia.

Exactly! This fight is just a comeback to show the whole boxing world and industry that his issues are just minor and there's nothing to worry about it. We cannot forget that this is just an interim fight before Garcia faces Kambosos Jr. and in the same manner, there's some huge reasons why Garcia's camp and Golden Boy Promotions have choosen Tagoe despite that the latter have some good and decent experience in his career.

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The undefeated Garcia should have made 2021 his year. While Garcia should get the job done, this fight is about Garcia getting his rhythm back and showing everyone that his mental health issues and his hand injury are water under the bridge.

I have also not seen anything negative about his physical injury issues in the last months. Joe Goossen has really contributed to getting Ryan Garcia back on his legs and back in the ring. He is a really good trainer.

The fight against Emmanuel Tagoe will defintely be the start of something special for Garcia.

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Quote from: goinmerry on March 17, 2022, 07:14:32 PM

Quote from: Questat on March 17, 2022, 05:11:42 PM

Tagoe could experiment all he wants, he just has to make sure that he is doing it the right way because Garcia is not an easy opponent to crack, he's been down before, was able to stand up and continue the fight. Garcia is a much tougher opponent now with that experience, so it should be Tagoe who should be careful, he could go for a KO but make sure he always keeps his defense so he will survive longer.

Experimenting is not necessary as that would cost him more rounds before he can make up with a good counter-strategy. Why not just do his usual, focus on good points then slowly applied it every round. No room for doing such testing and experiments.

While he is doing that, Garcia might be the first to hit him up badly. Stay serious and focused and think of all the things he did during their practice and training.

Anyways, we honestly don't need to say what should they do as these boxers are experienced ones.

What we need to wait for is how they will execute their strategy on the day of the fight.

Correct! There's no room for doing some experiments while Tagoe is dancing with Garcia, that's just a very risky move there. Experiments are usually or mostly done where mistakes and errors is not much of a big deal, doing something like that whilst your in the fight may result in sudden lose because there's no replay in boxing and definitely there's no room to make some mistakes.

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Quote from: Johnyz on March 18, 2022, 10:12:16 AM

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Those are great fighters but again with this match, i guess it been a tough decision making for gamblers who support on this but for me I go for Ryan Garcia we know he so fast to take any action and counter and also he has good footwork for having a speed reaction and make a good blow to the enemy but again we cannot underestimate Emmanuel Tagoe because he got the IBO lightweight that boxer really dream to fight each other so we cant wait for this fight.

By just simply looking at the numbers, Garcia is on the top here considering that he is still undefeated but of course, he should not be complacent because Tagoe is also a great boxer that he should take seriously. Yes, its not easy to place your bet but you have to make a good decision now because the math is fast approaching and you might not be able to get a good odds if you are late on placing your bet. They are both fighting for their dreams but for this match, I'll go for Garcia this time.

He might be great based on his record alone but in the actual fight, sorry but I think he has not fought a quality fighter like Ryan Garcia, so I would say that tit's a big challenge for Tagoe on how he can prove the majority of the fans that he can win this fight. I'd rather not expect too much from him as it's very rare to see an unknown boxer beat a popular boxer.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on March 18, 2022, 09:36:30 AM

Those are great fighters but again with this match, i guess it been a tough decision making for gamblers who support on this but for me I go for Ryan Garcia we know he so fast to take any action and counter and also he has good footwork for having a speed reaction and make a good blow to the enemy but again we cannot underestimate Emmanuel Tagoe because he got the IBO lightweight that boxer really dream to fight each other so we cant wait for this fight.

By just simply looking at the numbers, Garcia is on the top here considering that he is still undefeated but of course, he should not be complacent because Tagoe is also a great boxer that he should take seriously. Yes, its not easy to place your bet but you have to make a good decision now because the math is fast approaching and you might not be able to get a good odds if you are late on placing your bet. They are both fighting for their dreams but for this match, I'll go for Garcia this time.

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Those are great fighters but again with this match, i guess it been a tough decision making for gamblers who support on this but for me I go for Ryan Garcia we know he so fast to take any action and counter and also he has good footwork for having a speed reaction and make a good blow to the enemy but again we cannot underestimate Emmanuel Tagoe because he got the IBO lightweight that boxer really dream to fight each other so we cant wait for this fight.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on March 17, 2022, 04:54:03 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on March 13, 2022, 08:55:25 PM

So back to this fight, it Tagoe wants to win then he has to test the chin of Garcia again and see if it will hold. So he should be the aggressive early, it's like going in the first couple of rounds. If his experience is their then maybe he can overwhelm Garcia early.

This is a very good strategy, if we take into account that if Tagoe has a much higher resistance than Garcia, and I think Garcia is a boxer who is characterized by having great resistance and also a unique stamina for blows, if Tagoe does that, It implies that he will expend a lot of energy, and I don't know how intelligent that is for him at the moment, because Garcia has the experience, I am also sure that Garcia has already had this possible strategy in mind and his training must be focused a lot on strengthening the strength even more. resistance, the only way it works is to give him a knockout, otherwise I think Garcia could win in a few rounds.

Yes, so it's going to be a give and take strategy, and Tagoe should be ready to spend a lot of energy early so he should be training for stamina for the whole 12 rounds of the fight. If he can successfully tested Garcia early then maybe Garcia will readjust on this strategy and not to go out and look for a early knockout because Tagoe becomes the aggressor early. But Tagoe needs to sustain it otherwise if he gets tired then Garcia can take advantage of it and look for a knock out.

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Quote from: Questat on March 17, 2022, 05:11:42 PM

Tagoe could experiment all he wants, he just has to make sure that he is doing it the right way because Garcia is not an easy opponent to crack, he's been down before, was able to stand up and continue the fight. Garcia is a much tougher opponent now with that experience, so it should be Tagoe who should be careful, he could go for a KO but make sure he always keeps his defense so he will survive longer.

Experimenting is not necessary as that would cost him more rounds before he can make up with a good counter-strategy. Why not just do his usual, focus on good points then slowly applied it every round. No room for doing such testing and experiments.

While he is doing that, Garcia might be the first to hit him up badly. Stay serious and focused and think of all the things he did during their practice and training.

Anyways, we honestly don't need to say what should they do as these boxers are experienced ones.

What we need to wait for is how they will execute their strategy on the day of the fight.

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Quote from: Questat on March 17, 2022, 05:11:42 PM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on March 17, 2022, 04:54:03 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on March 13, 2022, 08:55:25 PM

So back to this fight, it Tagoe wants to win then he has to test the chin of Garcia again and see if it will hold. So he should be the aggressive early, it's like going in the first couple of rounds. If his experience is their then maybe he can overwhelm Garcia early.

This is a very good strategy, if we take into account that if Tagoe has a much higher resistance than Garcia, and I think Garcia is a boxer who is characterized by having great resistance and also a unique stamina for blows, if Tagoe does that, It implies that he will expend a lot of energy, and I don't know how intelligent that is for him at the moment, because Garcia has the experience, I am also sure that Garcia has already had this possible strategy in mind and his training must be focused a lot on strengthening the strength even more. resistance, the only way it works is to give him a knockout, otherwise I think Garcia could win in a few rounds.

Tagoe could experiment all he wants, he just has to make sure that he is doing it the right way because Garcia is not an easy opponent to crack, he's been down before, was able to stand up and continue the fight. Garcia is a much tougher opponent now with that experience, so it should be Tagoe who should be careful, he could go for a KO but make sure he always keeps his defense so he will survive longer.

As a boxer then it would really be just normal or typical for you to mind off your own defense yet this is one of the most important thing you should really be looking upon because if you dont then you
would be putting yourself on getting knocked out by opponent if a clean hit would really landed neither on which part of your body plus knowing that Garcia is a hard puncher then as an opponent
then expect that you would really be putting yourself in trouble if you dont raise or mind off your defense well.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on March 17, 2022, 04:54:03 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on March 13, 2022, 08:55:25 PM

So back to this fight, it Tagoe wants to win then he has to test the chin of Garcia again and see if it will hold. So he should be the aggressive early, it's like going in the first couple of rounds. If his experience is their then maybe he can overwhelm Garcia early.

This is a very good strategy, if we take into account that if Tagoe has a much higher resistance than Garcia, and I think Garcia is a boxer who is characterized by having great resistance and also a unique stamina for blows, if Tagoe does that, It implies that he will expend a lot of energy, and I don't know how intelligent that is for him at the moment, because Garcia has the experience, I am also sure that Garcia has already had this possible strategy in mind and his training must be focused a lot on strengthening the strength even more. resistance, the only way it works is to give him a knockout, otherwise I think Garcia could win in a few rounds.

Tagoe could experiment all he wants, he just has to make sure that he is doing it the right way because Garcia is not an easy opponent to crack, he's been down before, was able to stand up and continue the fight. Garcia is a much tougher opponent now with that experience, so it should be Tagoe who should be careful, he could go for a KO but make sure he always keeps his defense so he will survive longer.

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Quote from: Kemarit on March 13, 2022, 08:55:25 PM

So back to this fight, it Tagoe wants to win then he has to test the chin of Garcia again and see if it will hold. So he should be the aggressive early, it's like going in the first couple of rounds. If his experience is their then maybe he can overwhelm Garcia early.

This is a very good strategy, if we take into account that if Tagoe has a much higher resistance than Garcia, and I think Garcia is a boxer who is characterized by having great resistance and also a unique stamina for blows, if Tagoe does that, It implies that he will expend a lot of energy, and I don't know how intelligent that is for him at the moment, because Garcia has the experience, I am also sure that Garcia has already had this possible strategy in mind and his training must be focused a lot on strengthening the strength even more. resistance, the only way it works is to give him a knockout, otherwise I think Garcia could win in a few rounds.

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