Topic: [BOXING]: RYAN GARCIA vs EMMANUEL TAGOE - April 9 - page 14. (Read 2147 times)

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on March 14, 2022, 09:14:14 PM

More than half of all of Ryan's fights he won by way of KO or TKO in rounds 1 and 2. Tagoe shouldn't commit this suicide.

That's the fact that Tagoe has to understad. However, Tagoe probably was getting offered with a big paycheck so he took this fight, and if he really believe that he can win this fight, then he sees this as an opportunity not only to have a good paycheck but a chance to become a champion with bigger fights waiting for him in the future.

Of course Tagoe will be receiving a bigger paycheck in this match. He is up against a rising star in Ryan Garcia. There is money in this fight. If I am in Tagoe's shoes, I also wouldn't be refusing this offer even if I'm being pitted against a much better boxer. I will just have to prepare hard and set the goal to victory. This is actually a big opportunity for him. I think he has nothing to lose here. But he shouldn't be focusing on the paycheck alone. He should also give his best to win. There are much bigger paychecks when he comes out victorious.

You mean Tagoe will receive a biggest paycheck in his whole career and not bigger cut than Garcia Wink

Yeah, I would also do that if I were in Tagoe's shoes because this might be his last and biggest chance he might have to take a huge leap if he can manage to defeat a future star in the industry. So he should really do his best to prepare about this fight and I do firmly believe that even if he lose in this fight, he still can receive some great future fights if he manage to deliver a great entertaining fight to the people and fans without getting knocked out.

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Could be the next one, if ever Garcia can throw a succesful blow on Tagoe but what if the latter can withstand that blows? Still, I also definitely think that Tagoe still have those chance. Don't take it wrong because I'm rooting for Garcia on this fight, but I'm just saying that this unknown boxer might surprise us. You're right that experience alone cannot take on Garcia, but we already know what comes with experience and by looking his stats, Tagoe is not an easy one to deal with. Anyways, we'll see next month.

Just imagine Tagoe beat Garcia by knock out or decision that would be the biggest news in the boxing community for 2022 and Tagoe will become an instant celebrity just like Ugas when he beat Pacquiao, and that could be the end for Garcia's legacy because he has a history of depression and losing to someone like Tagoe could hit him very badly.

If that happens, then surely Tagoe will be in the news headlines for several weeks. From being an unknown boxer to a famous one who pulled an upset or knock out the rising star Garcia. But that is the question of ifs at this point because I do think that Garcia will somehow finish the fight and go home with a win.

Ugas's situation is different from Tagoe because Ugas is the underdog with fewer experience while Tagoe is only looked as underdog by bookies and boxing fans but his experience exceeds Garcia. But yes, if he can manage to pull an upset then he will be an instant celebrity.

Yes Tagoe will be certainly famous for a while and that would be surely his big break in the industry but that's just an IF he could really make that happen because on the other side, I doubt that Garcia's camp will just let that happen easily thus their goal is Kambosos Jr.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on March 16, 2022, 05:18:31 AM

, I really want to see the upset of this fight. Garcia isn't that strong as his popularity.

Good luck with this, strong for me has a different definition and I think he is still as strong as he was before or even stronger. his last fight was a statement, he was knocked down, get up and beat his opponent, for me, that's a real warrior and it's hard to beat that kind of fighter.

Yes, but Ryan Garcia has some work to do in defence, but he's fast and can develop into a good defensive fighter, with big timing powers.
when Ryan Garcia against Campbell I thought Campbell would beat Ryan Garcia after falling in the second round and he got up and kept attacking which finally managed to knock Campbell out in the 7th round with a big left chest and a knockout.
So I will judge Ryan Garcia vs Emmanuel Tagoe there is a possibility of repeating my wrong prediction, to be honest if you look at Emmanuel Tagoe's experience he is more experienced than Ryan Garcia but that is not a benchmark because anything can happen.

Ryan Garcia was too complacent at that fight, but I'm sure he already learn a lot from that fight and he will be more mature going forward.

Sometimes, that's the problem of a knockout artist, they love to attack and as a result, they don't pay attention so much to their defense.
For Garcia, there's nothing to prove, he has shown in the past that he can knock out any opponent, all he has to do now is just win the fight and focus on winning than being aggressive wanting to end the fight early.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on March 16, 2022, 05:18:31 AM

, I really want to see the upset of this fight. Garcia isn't that strong as his popularity.

Good luck with this, strong for me has a different definition and I think he is still as strong as he was before or even stronger. his last fight was a statement, he was knocked down, get up and beat his opponent, for me, that's a real warrior and it's hard to beat that kind of fighter.

Yes, but Ryan Garcia has some work to do in defence, but he's fast and can develop into a good defensive fighter, with big timing powers.
when Ryan Garcia against Campbell I thought Campbell would beat Ryan Garcia after falling in the second round and he got up and kept attacking which finally managed to knock Campbell out in the 7th round with a big left chest and a knockout.
So I will judge Ryan Garcia vs Emmanuel Tagoe there is a possibility of repeating my wrong prediction, to be honest if you look at Emmanuel Tagoe's experience he is more experienced than Ryan Garcia but that is not a benchmark because anything can happen.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on March 16, 2022, 05:18:31 AM

, I really want to see the upset of this fight. Garcia isn't that strong as his popularity.

Good luck with this, strong for me has a different definition and I think he is still as strong as he was before or even stronger. his last fight was a statement, he was knocked down, get up and beat his opponent, for me, that's a real warrior and it's hard to beat that kind of fighter.

We will see if Garcia still wants to fight or just be the social media person he wanted to be. But it's obvious that he should be focusing on his career as a fighter and should not get himself into social media because it might back fire on him in the future. Win this fight and most probably he will have to wait for the winner of Kambosos vs Haney. Or he might go for Tank Davis, options for him are many if he will win this comeback fight.

Whoever he will face, I believe he has a good chance of winning. This guy is still undefeated although only has a few fights, however, the way he beat his opponent, that's very impressive. 21 wins and 18 from KO, and not only that, but he also has the height and reach advantage so he is really a tough fighter to beat.

against Kambosos,, I will go for Garcia, the same thing if he would fight Tank Davis.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on March 16, 2022, 05:18:31 AM

, I really want to see the upset of this fight. Garcia isn't that strong as his popularity.

Good luck with this, strong for me has a different definition and I think he is still as strong as he was before or even stronger. his last fight was a statement, he was knocked down, get up and beat his opponent, for me, that's a real warrior and it's hard to beat that kind of fighter.

We will see if Garcia still wants to fight or just be the social media person he wanted to be. But it's obvious that he should be focusing on his career as a fighter and should not get himself into social media because it might back fire on him in the future. Win this fight and most probably he will have to wait for the winner of Kambosos vs Haney. Or he might go for Tank Davis, options for him are many if he will win this comeback fight.

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Quote from: Oceat on March 15, 2022, 07:13:42 PM

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on March 16, 2022, 05:18:31 AM

Could be the next one, if ever Garcia can throw a succesful blow on Tagoe but what if the latter can withstand that blows? Still, I also definitely think that Tagoe still have those chance. Don't take it wrong because I'm rooting for Garcia on this fight, but I'm just saying that this unknown boxer might surprise us. You're right that experience alone cannot take on Garcia, but we already know what comes with experience and by looking his stats, Tagoe is not an easy one to deal with. Anyways, we'll see next month.

Just imagine Tagoe beat Garcia by knock out or decision that would be the biggest news in the boxing community for 2022 and Tagoe will become an instant celebrity just like Ugas when he beat Pacquiao, and that could be the end for Garcia's legacy because he has a history of depression and losing to someone like Tagoe could hit him very badly.

I don't know why Garcia chose Tagoe as his next opponent but it looks like Garcia seems to underestimate Tagoe here. If Tagoe could knock down Garcia that would be a great opportunity for him and just like what you said he would become an instant celebrity but we don't know yet what would be the outcome of the fight. We're just throwing random guesses here but I'm sure one of them will get a knock out and I believe that since I've seen their previous fight.

It is not just Garcia alone who decides all of this, Oscar De La Hoya plays a huge role on choosing Emannuel Tagoe on this fight because he definitely don't want his cash cow to lose before he gets to fight the undisputed in lightweight division Kambosos Jr. and they certainly have their own reason why they choose Tagoe here.

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, I really want to see the upset of this fight. Garcia isn't that strong as his popularity.

Good luck with this, strong for me has a different definition and I think he is still as strong as he was before or even stronger. his last fight was a statement, he was knocked down, get up and beat his opponent, for me, that's a real warrior and it's hard to beat that kind of fighter.

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Quote from: mirakal on March 16, 2022, 04:07:13 AM

If that happens, then surely Tagoe will be in the news headlines for several weeks. From being an unknown boxer to a famous one who pulled an upset or knock out the rising star Garcia. But that is the question of ifs at this point because I do think that Garcia will somehow finish the fight and go home with a win.

Ugas's situation is different from Tagoe because Ugas is the underdog with fewer experience while Tagoe is only looked as underdog by bookies and boxing fans but his experience exceeds Garcia. But yes, if he can manage to pull an upset then he will be an instant celebrity.

Honestly Ugas and Tagoe is similar if we talking about the experience, Ugas fought 31 times while tagoe 33 times... only 2 difference. But Tagoe has become a boxer since 2004, while Ugas since 2010... but I feel the long gap of they he was started doesn't have a lot differences since he might tired or bored become a boxer. He should put all of his experience to this fight, I really want to see the upset of this fight. Garcia isn't that strong as his popularity.

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Quote from: judeafante on March 15, 2022, 06:34:10 PM

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Could be the next one, if ever Garcia can throw a succesful blow on Tagoe but what if the latter can withstand that blows? Still, I also definitely think that Tagoe still have those chance. Don't take it wrong because I'm rooting for Garcia on this fight, but I'm just saying that this unknown boxer might surprise us. You're right that experience alone cannot take on Garcia, but we already know what comes with experience and by looking his stats, Tagoe is not an easy one to deal with. Anyways, we'll see next month.

Just imagine Tagoe beat Garcia by knock out or decision that would be the biggest news in the boxing community for 2022 and Tagoe will become an instant celebrity just like Ugas when he beat Pacquiao, and that could be the end for Garcia's legacy because he has a history of depression and losing to someone like Tagoe could hit him very badly.

If that happens, then surely Tagoe will be in the news headlines for several weeks. From being an unknown boxer to a famous one who pulled an upset or knock out the rising star Garcia. But that is the question of ifs at this point because I do think that Garcia will somehow finish the fight and go home with a win.

Ugas's situation is different from Tagoe because Ugas is the underdog with fewer experience while Tagoe is only looked as underdog by bookies and boxing fans but his experience exceeds Garcia. But yes, if he can manage to pull an upset then he will be an instant celebrity.

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More than half of all of Ryan's fights he won by way of KO or TKO in rounds 1 and 2. Tagoe shouldn't commit this suicide.

That's the fact that Tagoe has to understad. However, Tagoe probably was getting offered with a big paycheck so he took this fight, and if he really believe that he can win this fight, then he sees this as an opportunity not only to have a good paycheck but a chance to become a champion with bigger fights waiting for him in the future.

Of course Tagoe will be receiving a bigger paycheck in this match. He is up against a rising star in Ryan Garcia. There is money in this fight. If I am in Tagoe's shoes, I also wouldn't be refusing this offer even if I'm being pitted against a much better boxer. I will just have to prepare hard and set the goal to victory. This is actually a big opportunity for him. I think he has nothing to lose here. But he shouldn't be focusing on the paycheck alone. He should also give his best to win. There are much bigger paychecks when he comes out victorious.

And sometimes, fighters that has nothing to lose will just show and fight and maybe score some upset. So we will see if Ryan Garcia is still intact and it's the right time that he come back or perhaps needed more time to recover from his mental health problems. As for Tagoe, yeah, biggest paycheck so he can't say no to his opportunity given to him by Golden Boy and then come fight night, give Ryan everything and make it a good fight.

Ryan Garcia has gone through a lot in the past several months. This comeback fight against Tagoe will indeed speak much about his mental and physical state and readiness and whether he has already fully recovered. Tagoe is definitely a weak opponent for him. This is probably cherry picked by Ryan Garcia's team after his months of inactivity because of his mental health break and hand surgery. This should be easy for him. But if he falls to Tagoe, it might be the beginning of the end of Ryan's bright career. Ryan is full of himself. It's going be hard for him to recover from this kind of defeat.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on March 15, 2022, 09:26:49 PM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on March 14, 2022, 09:14:14 PM

More than half of all of Ryan's fights he won by way of KO or TKO in rounds 1 and 2. Tagoe shouldn't commit this suicide.

That's the fact that Tagoe has to understad. However, Tagoe probably was getting offered with a big paycheck so he took this fight, and if he really believe that he can win this fight, then he sees this as an opportunity not only to have a good paycheck but a chance to become a champion with bigger fights waiting for him in the future.

Of course Tagoe will be receiving a bigger paycheck in this match. He is up against a rising star in Ryan Garcia. There is money in this fight. If I am in Tagoe's shoes, I also wouldn't be refusing this offer even if I'm being pitted against a much better boxer. I will just have to prepare hard and set the goal to victory. This is actually a big opportunity for him. I think he has nothing to lose here. But he shouldn't be focusing on the paycheck alone. He should also give his best to win. There are much bigger paychecks when he comes out victorious.

And sometimes, fighters that has nothing to lose will just show and fight and maybe score some upset. So we will see if Ryan Garcia is still intact and it's the right time that he come back or perhaps needed more time to recover from his mental health problems. As for Tagoe, yeah, biggest paycheck so he can't say no to his opportunity given to him by Golden Boy and then come fight night, give Ryan everything and make it a good fight.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on March 14, 2022, 09:14:14 PM

More than half of all of Ryan's fights he won by way of KO or TKO in rounds 1 and 2. Tagoe shouldn't commit this suicide.

That's the fact that Tagoe has to understad. However, Tagoe probably was getting offered with a big paycheck so he took this fight, and if he really believe that he can win this fight, then he sees this as an opportunity not only to have a good paycheck but a chance to become a champion with bigger fights waiting for him in the future.

Of course Tagoe will be receiving a bigger paycheck in this match. He is up against a rising star in Ryan Garcia. There is money in this fight. If I am in Tagoe's shoes, I also wouldn't be refusing this offer even if I'm being pitted against a much better boxer. I will just have to prepare hard and set the goal to victory. This is actually a big opportunity for him. I think he has nothing to lose here. But he shouldn't be focusing on the paycheck alone. He should also give his best to win. There are much bigger paychecks when he comes out victorious.

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Quote from: Oceat on March 15, 2022, 07:13:42 PM

I don't know why Garcia chose Tagoe as his next opponent but it looks like Garcia seems to underestimate Tagoe here.

It's because Tagoe is one of the good opponents in a lightweight division before he faces the final stage, the undisputed champion in that class, George Kambosos Jr.. Since there's no shortcut, Garcia needs to face every stage.

Garcia is also not the one that does the decision-making on who will be his next opponent. In the end, it's their promoter to decide.

I don't think that Garcia is underestimating Tagoe. Did he release any statement with that matter?

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Quote from: judeafante on March 15, 2022, 06:34:10 PM

Could be the next one, if ever Garcia can throw a succesful blow on Tagoe but what if the latter can withstand that blows? Still, I also definitely think that Tagoe still have those chance. Don't take it wrong because I'm rooting for Garcia on this fight, but I'm just saying that this unknown boxer might surprise us. You're right that experience alone cannot take on Garcia, but we already know what comes with experience and by looking his stats, Tagoe is not an easy one to deal with. Anyways, we'll see next month.

Just imagine Tagoe beat Garcia by knock out or decision that would be the biggest news in the boxing community for 2022 and Tagoe will become an instant celebrity just like Ugas when he beat Pacquiao, and that could be the end for Garcia's legacy because he has a history of depression and losing to someone like Tagoe could hit him very badly.

I don't know why Garcia chose Tagoe as his next opponent but it looks like Garcia seems to underestimate Tagoe here. If Tagoe could knock down Garcia that would be a great opportunity for him and just like what you said he would become an instant celebrity but we don't know yet what would be the outcome of the fight. We're just throwing random guesses here but I'm sure one of them will get a knock out and I believe that since I've seen their previous fight.

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Quote from: robelneo on March 14, 2022, 04:57:30 PM

Could be the next one, if ever Garcia can throw a succesful blow on Tagoe but what if the latter can withstand that blows? Still, I also definitely think that Tagoe still have those chance. Don't take it wrong because I'm rooting for Garcia on this fight, but I'm just saying that this unknown boxer might surprise us. You're right that experience alone cannot take on Garcia, but we already know what comes with experience and by looking his stats, Tagoe is not an easy one to deal with. Anyways, we'll see next month.

Just imagine Tagoe beat Garcia by knock out or decision that would be the biggest news in the boxing community for 2022 and Tagoe will become an instant celebrity just like Ugas when he beat Pacquiao, and that could be the end for Garcia's legacy because he has a history of depression and losing to someone like Tagoe could hit him very badly.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on March 13, 2022, 09:55:27 PM

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So back to this fight, it Tagoe wants to win then he has to test the chin of Garcia again and see if it will hold. So he should be the aggressive early, it's like going in the first couple of rounds. If his experience is their then maybe he can overwhelm Garcia early.

This is not going to be a wise decision I think. This is very risky. If he wants to trade the heaviest of blows in the first couple of rounds, it is more likely that he will be the one to get knocked out first than Ryan Garcia. Ryan Garcia is the stronger puncher between the two. And the first two rounds are when Ryan is at his freshest state. Ryan could knock out Tagoe cold within those rounds. If I were Tagoe, I'd bring the fight to the distance and attempt at a unanimous decision. But all winning approaches are very hard for him of course.

You cannot overwhelm Garcia with experience alone, power and speed must come to play but unfortunately, these two are in Garcia's arsenal it's not what Garcia can take but what Tagoe can take, he must have a strong body because the left hook to the body will come to play here, we have seen on Youtube and his own social media account and on actual fights how powerful this left hook is, it already claims many victims and Tagoe could be the next one.

Could be the next one, if ever Garcia can throw a succesful blow on Tagoe but what if the latter can withstand that blows? Still, I also definitely think that Tagoe still have those chance. Don't take it wrong because I'm rooting for Garcia on this fight, but I'm just saying that this unknown boxer might surprise us. You're right that experience alone cannot take on Garcia, but we already know what comes with experience and by looking his stats, Tagoe is not an easy one to deal with. Anyways, we'll see next month.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on March 13, 2022, 09:55:27 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on March 13, 2022, 08:55:25 PM

So back to this fight, it Tagoe wants to win then he has to test the chin of Garcia again and see if it will hold. So he should be the aggressive early, it's like going in the first couple of rounds. If his experience is their then maybe he can overwhelm Garcia early.

This is not going to be a wise decision I think. This is very risky. If he wants to trade the heaviest of blows in the first couple of rounds, it is more likely that he will be the one to get knocked out first than Ryan Garcia. Ryan Garcia is the stronger puncher between the two. And the first two rounds are when Ryan is at his freshest state. Ryan could knock out Tagoe cold within those rounds. If I were Tagoe, I'd bring the fight to the distance and attempt at a unanimous decision. But all winning approaches are very hard for him of course.

Since chin is the weakest point of Ryan, I sure than he'll train well to protect it or it could also use it as a deceiving strategy to Togoe. Ryan is aggressive yet he also knows how to counter his opponent's punches. It will be a huge challenge for Tagoe so he better look for more weaknesses of Ryan so he'll be able to knock him down on the first rounds.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on March 14, 2022, 09:14:14 PM

More than half of all of Ryan's fights he won by way of KO or TKO in rounds 1 and 2. Tagoe shouldn't commit this suicide.

That's the fact that Tagoe has to understad. However, Tagoe probably was getting offered with a big paycheck so he took this fight, and if he really believe that he can win this fight, then he sees this as an opportunity not only to have a good paycheck but a chance to become a champion with bigger fights waiting for him in the future.

This is a comeback fight for Garcia and the team and his promotions want to make sure that it will be something that will have a big bang and they have seen something on Tagoe that can make this happen an unknown fighter with a good record but not a knock out artist I'm pretty sure they scout Tagoe to pick him for Garcia's comeback back let's see if things will go their way.

Yes, it's his comeback fight and some called it a tune-up fight because he is fighting an unknown boxer. Maybe after this fight, his promoter is preparing for a big fight and probably that is against a champion. As what the bookies are showing, Garcia is a heavy favorite so the chance of Tagoe is very slim and personally I don't think an upset is even possible here.

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