Topic: [BOXING]: RYAN GARCIA vs EMMANUEL TAGOE - April 9 - page 15. (Read 2147 times)

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on March 13, 2022, 09:55:27 PM

So back to this fight, it Tagoe wants to win then he has to test the chin of Garcia again and see if it will hold. So he should be the aggressive early, it's like going in the first couple of rounds. If his experience is their then maybe he can overwhelm Garcia early.

This is not going to be a wise decision I think. This is very risky. If he wants to trade the heaviest of blows in the first couple of rounds, it is more likely that he will be the one to get knocked out first than Ryan Garcia. Ryan Garcia is the stronger puncher between the two. And the first two rounds are when Ryan is at his freshest state. Ryan could knock out Tagoe cold within those rounds. If I were Tagoe, I'd bring the fight to the distance and attempt at a unanimous decision. But all winning approaches are very hard for him of course.

Indeed, getting aggressive in the first few rounds is definitely a bad idea as it may result to a sudden defeat in Tagoe's side. He may want to observe Garcia's movements first before starting his game plan because the chances of surviving while exchanging blows may not be on his side. Tagoe is an experienced boxer than Garcia so I think he knows what to do because he cannot forget the fact that Ryan was once trained by the same person who trained Saul Canelo Alvarez.

The truth is that Tagoe has a very slim chance of winning. Ryan Garcia is so much younger than he is. Ryan is a stronger puncher. Ryan is quicker. Ryan has everything to win in this match. But I can only hope that Tagoe would use whatever he has learned in his 33 fights to outwit Ryan. For me, that's bringing the fight until the last round. Ryan hasn't been in the 12th round in his entire career. Giving all of Tagoe's power in the first two rounds will make him sleep early. More than half of all of Ryan's fights he won by way of KO or TKO in rounds 1 and 2. Tagoe shouldn't commit this suicide.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on March 13, 2022, 09:55:27 PM

So back to this fight, it Tagoe wants to win then he has to test the chin of Garcia again and see if it will hold. So he should be the aggressive early, it's like going in the first couple of rounds. If his experience is their then maybe he can overwhelm Garcia early.

This is not going to be a wise decision I think. This is very risky. If he wants to trade the heaviest of blows in the first couple of rounds, it is more likely that he will be the one to get knocked out first than Ryan Garcia. Ryan Garcia is the stronger puncher between the two. And the first two rounds are when Ryan is at his freshest state. Ryan could knock out Tagoe cold within those rounds. If I were Tagoe, I'd bring the fight to the distance and attempt at a unanimous decision. But all winning approaches are very hard for him of course.

You cannot overwhelm Garcia with experience alone, power and speed must come to play but unfortunately, these two are in Garcia's arsenal it's not what Garcia can take but what Tagoe can take, he must have a strong body because the left hook to the body will come to play here, we have seen on Youtube and his own social media account and on actual fights how powerful this left hook is, it already claims many victims and Tagoe could be the next one.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on March 14, 2022, 08:19:00 AM

So back to this fight, it Tagoe wants to win then he has to test the chin of Garcia again and see if it will hold. So he should be the aggressive early, it's like going in the first couple of rounds. If his experience is their then maybe he can overwhelm Garcia early.

This is not going to be a wise decision I think. This is very risky. If he wants to trade the heaviest of blows in the first couple of rounds, it is more likely that he will be the one to get knocked out first than Ryan Garcia. Ryan Garcia is the stronger puncher between the two. And the first two rounds are when Ryan is at his freshest state. Ryan could knock out Tagoe cold within those rounds. If I were Tagoe, I'd bring the fight to the distance and attempt at a unanimous decision. But all winning approaches are very hard for him of course.

Indeed, getting aggressive in the first few rounds is definitely a bad idea as it may result to a sudden defeat in Tagoe's side. He may want to observe Garcia's movements first before starting his game plan because the chances of surviving while exchanging blows may not be on his side. Tagoe is an experienced boxer than Garcia so I think he knows what to do because he cannot forget the fact that Ryan was once trained by the same person who trained Saul Canelo Alvarez.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on March 14, 2022, 07:13:21 AM

Quote from: mirakal on March 14, 2022, 05:03:57 AM

Given that Tagoe have much more experience than Garcia, then I'm looking forward that he will use his IQ in the ring to test Garcia on his limits if the latter can still dance until the 12th round. We know that Garcia and Oscar cherry picked this one but hopefully Tagoe will at least give it a good fight.

Sometimes experience doesn't work against a quality fighter, I'm saying that Garcia has more quality fights compared to Tagoe, and to be honest, I don't recognize the boxers that he beats unlike Garcia who beats popular boxers in the past.

I can understand that Garcia is more popular among boxing fans, but we can't ignore the fact that Tagoe may give him a good fight based on his record.
They may have cherry picked this fight but they should not be very confident about the outcome.
Garcia's camp should be training hard and not taking this for granted.

I can't disagree with that since although it's a cherry-pick but upset does happen a lot of times in sports. Tagoe is not new in boxing, he already has a lot of battles that he won in the past, so for sure he will not just let Garcia beat him easily without fighting hard.

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Even if the gap of odds is bit wide for this, highly favoring Garcia.

A champion against an unknown fighter, of course we can already expect that there's a wide gap of odds, but that's only an expectation and no guarantee since they will have to fight first to know the result.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on March 14, 2022, 07:13:21 AM

Quote from: mirakal on March 14, 2022, 05:03:57 AM

Given that Tagoe have much more experience than Garcia, then I'm looking forward that he will use his IQ in the ring to test Garcia on his limits if the latter can still dance until the 12th round. We know that Garcia and Oscar cherry picked this one but hopefully Tagoe will at least give it a good fight.

Sometimes experience doesn't work against a quality fighter, I'm saying that Garcia has more quality fights compared to Tagoe, and to be honest, I don't recognize the boxers that he beats unlike Garcia who beats popular boxers in the past.

I can understand that Garcia is more popular among boxing fans, but we can't ignore the fact that Tagoe may give him a good fight based on his record.
They may have cherry picked this fight but they should not be very confident about the outcome.
Garcia's camp should be training hard and not taking this for granted. Even if the gap of odds is bit wide for this, highly favoring Garcia.

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Quote from: mirakal on March 14, 2022, 05:03:57 AM

Given that Tagoe have much more experience than Garcia, then I'm looking forward that he will use his IQ in the ring to test Garcia on his limits if the latter can still dance until the 12th round. We know that Garcia and Oscar cherry picked this one but hopefully Tagoe will at least give it a good fight.

Sometimes experience doesn't work against a quality fighter, I'm saying that Garcia has more quality fights compared to Tagoe, and to be honest, I don't recognize the boxers that he beats unlike Garcia who beats popular boxers in the past.

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Quote from: electronicash on March 13, 2022, 12:47:03 PM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on March 13, 2022, 09:55:27 PM

That's likely the case, he was overconfident of his ability to seek closed fight, we can see in the replay that he lowered his guard for a bit and Campbell used that chance to knockout Garcia. Luckily he was trained well that's why his body didn't collapsed immediately, and yes we saw that he's also vulnerable to such punches. I bet, he really learned a bigtime lesson on that one.

it was a combination that after exposing his chin an overhead left hit gacria. campbell didn't rush to that opportunity. it might be exciting still if they will do a rematch again since both ad counter puncher.

There will be no rematch because Luke Campbell has retired already:

(https://theathletic.com/news/olympic-gold-medalist-luke-campbell-retires-from-professional-boxing/BfjuWGmDpaf3/)

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Luke Campbell has retired from professional boxing — nine years after winning Olympic gold at the London 2012 Games.

So back to this fight, it Tagoe wants to win then he has to test the chin of Garcia again and see if it will hold. So he should be the aggressive early, it's like going in the first couple of rounds. If his experience is their then maybe he can overwhelm Garcia early.

Is that so? Thanks for the information, I didn't know about that.

Given that Tagoe have much more experience than Garcia, then I'm looking forward that he will use his IQ in the ring to test Garcia on his limits if the latter can still dance until the 12th round. We know that Garcia and Oscar cherry picked this one but hopefully Tagoe will at least give it a good fight.

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Quote from: electronicash on March 13, 2022, 12:47:03 PM

So back to this fight, it Tagoe wants to win then he has to test the chin of Garcia again and see if it will hold. So he should be the aggressive early, it's like going in the first couple of rounds. If his experience is their then maybe he can overwhelm Garcia early.

This is not going to be a wise decision I think. This is very risky. If he wants to trade the heaviest of blows in the first couple of rounds, it is more likely that he will be the one to get knocked out first than Ryan Garcia. Ryan Garcia is the stronger puncher between the two. And the first two rounds are when Ryan is at his freshest state. Ryan could knock out Tagoe cold within those rounds. If I were Tagoe, I'd bring the fight to the distance and attempt at a unanimous decision. But all winning approaches are very hard for him of course.

Rayan is one of the boxers who is in line of most extraordinary boxing return, he is also very excited about April 9, in one of the videos which he uploaded of his punching I was amazed to see his speed. But opponent is not weak either. This is the beauty of the game. Let's hope this fight finally happens.

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That's likely the case, he was overconfident of his ability to seek closed fight, we can see in the replay that he lowered his guard for a bit and Campbell used that chance to knockout Garcia. Luckily he was trained well that's why his body didn't collapsed immediately, and yes we saw that he's also vulnerable to such punches. I bet, he really learned a bigtime lesson on that one.

it was a combination that after exposing his chin an overhead left hit gacria. campbell didn't rush to that opportunity. it might be exciting still if they will do a rematch again since both ad counter puncher.

He won't give another chance to whom he will fight again and that was a lucky fight if you look at it from another angle because he discovered his weakness without even tasting a single loss. Now he won't be careless anymore since his flawless record will be in jeopardy. I think he will gonna test some defensive strategy to protect his chin in this upcoming fight since there will be no doubt that his opponent will gonna go for that chin and will gonna be patient to manage to get a hit on it.

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Quote from: electronicash on March 13, 2022, 12:47:03 PM

So back to this fight, it Tagoe wants to win then he has to test the chin of Garcia again and see if it will hold. So he should be the aggressive early, it's like going in the first couple of rounds. If his experience is their then maybe he can overwhelm Garcia early.

This is not going to be a wise decision I think. This is very risky. If he wants to trade the heaviest of blows in the first couple of rounds, it is more likely that he will be the one to get knocked out first than Ryan Garcia. Ryan Garcia is the stronger puncher between the two. And the first two rounds are when Ryan is at his freshest state. Ryan could knock out Tagoe cold within those rounds. If I were Tagoe, I'd bring the fight to the distance and attempt at a unanimous decision. But all winning approaches are very hard for him of course.

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That's likely the case, he was overconfident of his ability to seek closed fight, we can see in the replay that he lowered his guard for a bit and Campbell used that chance to knockout Garcia. Luckily he was trained well that's why his body didn't collapsed immediately, and yes we saw that he's also vulnerable to such punches. I bet, he really learned a bigtime lesson on that one.

it was a combination that after exposing his chin an overhead left hit gacria. campbell didn't rush to that opportunity. it might be exciting still if they will do a rematch again since both ad counter puncher.

There will be no rematch because Luke Campbell has retired already:

(https://theathletic.com/news/olympic-gold-medalist-luke-campbell-retires-from-professional-boxing/BfjuWGmDpaf3/)

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Luke Campbell has retired from professional boxing — nine years after winning Olympic gold at the London 2012 Games.

So back to this fight, it Tagoe wants to win then he has to test the chin of Garcia again and see if it will hold. So he should be the aggressive early, it's like going in the first couple of rounds. If his experience is their then maybe he can overwhelm Garcia early.

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Quote from: Sanitough on March 12, 2022, 12:37:19 PM

That's likely the case, he was overconfident of his ability to seek closed fight, we can see in the replay that he lowered his guard for a bit and Campbell used that chance to knockout Garcia. Luckily he was trained well that's why his body didn't collapsed immediately, and yes we saw that he's also vulnerable to such punches. I bet, he really learned a bigtime lesson on that one.

it was a combination that after exposing his chin an overhead left hit gacria. campbell didn't rush to that opportunity. it might be exciting still if they will do a rematch again since both ad counter puncher.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on March 11, 2022, 10:42:55 AM

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yes it is, it ryan's camp (oscar is his promoter) who chose this fight, hence, cherry picking. though it is considered cherry picked, still garcia needs to prepare well on this fight. another stepping stone but doesn't need to be taken for granted.
a lot are betting on garcia here no doubt. if you want to take more risk on your bets, check the other betting lines for this fight.

Yes, you're right things got bad after the fight with Campbell, now what I didn't know was that Oscar de la Hoya was still in action? I haven't heard from him for a long time, I thought he had retired from boxing, although he was an outstanding boxer, if they didn't choose him, it means that he still doesn't have a sufficient level to start, I think we could say that Oscar de la Hoya it would be one of the secret letters that are still out there from the old school.

Garcia was still young and he still have a lot to learn, his skills are good and I reckon that he really learned something big while fighting Campbell and that's why he had to take some time off to process it physically and mentally, I can also see that Garcia confident in his opponents and calm. So maybe that time while he was facing Campbell he was too confident that's why he caught unguarded by Campbell's blow.

He was probably because he is a knockout puncher and he really trust his power. Good thing he was able to stand up and finish with a good win. In that fight, we saw that Ryan Garcia is also vulnerable to getting knockdown but we also see that he has a strong stamina.

Oscar De La Hoya, is retired from being a boxer and now he's a promoter called the Golden Boy Promotions. He is just using his experience and connections to get a good fight with good money to his cows.

He is in that business for awhile now, and for sure he made a lot of money since he is also promoting lots of champions. De La Hoya is a smart boxer, he knows the path he has to go after his career, so until now he is still continuously growing his money even if he is not fighting anymore.

That's likely the case, he was overconfident of his ability to seek closed fight, we can see in the replay that he lowered his guard for a bit and Campbell used that chance to knockout Garcia. Luckily he was trained well that's why his body didn't collapsed immediately, and yes we saw that he's also vulnerable to such punches. I bet, he really learned a bigtime lesson on that one.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on March 11, 2022, 10:42:55 AM

Quote from: mirakal on February 25, 2022, 04:59:29 AM

yes it is, it ryan's camp (oscar is his promoter) who chose this fight, hence, cherry picking. though it is considered cherry picked, still garcia needs to prepare well on this fight. another stepping stone but doesn't need to be taken for granted.
a lot are betting on garcia here no doubt. if you want to take more risk on your bets, check the other betting lines for this fight.

Yes, you're right things got bad after the fight with Campbell, now what I didn't know was that Oscar de la Hoya was still in action? I haven't heard from him for a long time, I thought he had retired from boxing, although he was an outstanding boxer, if they didn't choose him, it means that he still doesn't have a sufficient level to start, I think we could say that Oscar de la Hoya it would be one of the secret letters that are still out there from the old school.

Garcia was still young and he still have a lot to learn, his skills are good and I reckon that he really learned something big while fighting Campbell and that's why he had to take some time off to process it physically and mentally, I can also see that Garcia confident in his opponents and calm. So maybe that time while he was facing Campbell he was too confident that's why he caught unguarded by Campbell's blow.

He was probably because he is a knockout puncher and he really trust his power. Good thing he was able to stand up and finish with a good win. In that fight, we saw that Ryan Garcia is also vulnerable to getting knockdown but we also see that he has a strong stamina.