[BOXING]: RYAN GARCIA vs EMMANUEL TAGOE - April 9 - page 18.

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Quote from: Sanitough on February 19, 2022, 05:13:49 AM

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33 years is not that old, as long as Tagoe has the skill, he can certainly match Garcia's speed and power. Unfortunately, since I don't see him had a big fight in the past, I cannot say that he has a good chance of beating Garcia, so I'm sure he will be a heavy underdog in this particular fight.

I also don't think age is big factor in this fight as 33 is still a good age for boxing. The real issue is that EMMANUEL TAGOE is quite and is having some mental haelth issues that can turn the table towards RYAN GARCIA. Also RYAN GARCIA is rated at number 5 by The Ring in 135 pounds category.

Being quiet doesn't mean he has a mental issue, maybe he just wants to do his talking in the ring that's why instead of talking a lot, he trains hard as he knows Ryan Garcia is a tough opponent and if he will win, it will be his ticket to bigger fights.

As far as I know, it is Ryan who admitted that he had mental issues:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10027201-boxer-ryan-garcia-opens-up-about-dealing-with-depression-suicidal-thoughts

Tagoe is not well know that's why there is no media coverage or following for him. Yeah, maybe he is not comfortable going to the media and would rather stay off the radar before the actual fights. And it could be that he is really focus to pull the one of the biggest upset in boxing this 2022.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on February 18, 2022, 09:18:19 AM

So here are the odds as per sportsbet.io

Ryan Garcia - 1.08
Emmanuel Tagoe - 6.60

So there is a huge gap as far as the odds goes. And it seems that Ryan Garcia is a sure win to win this fight.

No other betting options available though, might be better to bet on which exact rounds will Garcia will win, or the range of rounds.

Seem close to the odds on Stake. Nothing yet on Playbetr.com

With odds like this, the bookmakers are almost too sure that Garcia is going to win the fight with only a very slight doubt. It's x6 a profit for an upset fight. If you have a throwaway amount in your account, bet on Tagoe its going to be worth risking. Or if you are a fan of Tagoe, it will be a good match to watch and perhaps pray a bit that a lucky wild punch will break the jaw of Garcia.

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Quote from: Sanitough on February 19, 2022, 04:22:08 AM

33 years is not that old, as long as Tagoe has the skill, he can certainly match Garcia's speed and power. Unfortunately, since I don't see him had a big fight in the past, I cannot say that he has a good chance of beating Garcia, so I'm sure he will be a heavy underdog in this particular fight.

I also don't think age is big factor in this fight as 33 is still a good age for boxing. The real issue is that EMMANUEL TAGOE is quite and is having some mental haelth issues that can turn the table towards RYAN GARCIA. Also RYAN GARCIA is rated at number 5 by The Ring in 135 pounds category.

Being quiet doesn't mean he has a mental issue, maybe he just wants to do his talking in the ring that's why instead of talking a lot, he trains hard as he knows Ryan Garcia is a tough opponent and if he will win, it will be his ticket to bigger fights.

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Quote from: Sanitough on February 19, 2022, 04:22:08 AM

33 years is not that old, as long as Tagoe has the skill, he can certainly match Garcia's speed and power. Unfortunately, since I don't see him had a big fight in the past, I cannot say that he has a good chance of beating Garcia, so I'm sure he will be a heavy underdog in this particular fight.

I also don't think age is big factor in this fight as 33 is still a good age for boxing. The real issue is that RYAN GARCIA is quite for sometimes and is having some mental haelth issues that can turn the table towards EMMANUEL TAGOE. But keep this in mind that RYAN GARCIA is rated at number 5 by The Ring in 135 pounds category.
Think wisely before you place your bet on anyone of them.

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this being a boxing fight between seniors and juniors what I mean is there is quite a big age difference, Garcia is at a young age to fight, while Tagoe is at a mature age. This fight was organized by Boxing Promoter De la Hoya, Statistically Garcia has never lost, and Tagoe has only suffered 1 defeat. Garcia Delighted to tagoe for taking this match, Karean Garcia hasn't played in a long time since his last match with Campbell last year.

Tagoe's 33 years old while Garcia's 23 years old, there's a 10 years old gap between both of them... but to be honest 33 years old isn't the matter, actually that's a prime ages in boxing. He just lacking of popularity, it's hard to find his previous fight in youtube... mostly it's uploaded with bad resolutions. He have experience, he have speed and he can box, upset could be happen here. I just hope this isn't fixed match where Tagoe let Garcia will easily, I expect this will be close fight.

33 years is not that old, as long as Tagoe has the skill, he can certainly match Garcia's speed and power. Unfortunately, since I don't see him had a big fight in the past, I cannot say that he has a good chance of beating Garcia, so I'm sure he will be a heavy underdog in this particular fight.

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Quote from: Bloodseekers on February 19, 2022, 12:40:59 AM

this being a boxing fight between seniors and juniors what I mean is there is quite a big age difference, Garcia is at a young age to fight, while Tagoe is at a mature age. This fight was organized by Boxing Promoter De la Hoya, Statistically Garcia has never lost, and Tagoe has only suffered 1 defeat. Garcia Delighted to tagoe for taking this match, Karean Garcia hasn't played in a long time since his last match with Campbell last year.

Tagoe's 33 years old while Garcia's 23 years old, there's a 10 years old gap between both of them... but to be honest 33 years old isn't the matter, actually that's a prime ages in boxing. He just lacking of popularity, it's hard to find his previous fight in youtube... mostly it's uploaded with bad resolutions. He have experience, he have speed and he can box, upset could be happen here. I just hope this isn't fixed match where Tagoe let Garcia will easily, I expect this will be close fight.

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I can't believed that Garcia has choosen Joe Goosen as his trainer for this fight. I mean he has been with Eddy Reynoso, the trainer of Canelo Alvarez and it seems he is doing good for Ryan and Alvarez and Garcia is very close.

That's why I was surprised to see Canelo criticizing Garcia at one point. Maybe he already severed his tie with Reynoso or if this is just a one time trainer with Goosen.

There should be no bitterness or something related to that. Everything changes or unexpected things really happened. Regardless of the history or issues with the trainer, the important part is, if they will be a big help to those who hired their service.

Ryan Garcia, whatever the reason he made that selection should not be a problem.

Let's see at some point if their tandem will make Ryan a much better fighter.

I didn't say though that there is bitterness from Ryan Garcia, I'm just surprised by the move and then seeing Canelo going into public and saying things against Garcia might have been the trigger point.

@Kasabus - yeah, for sure this will be a test for Garcia, but I don't think that the rounds an be extended. I'm seeing Garcia maybe winning by less than 8 rounds?

Maybe it was just a coincidence, and Canelo saying negative things to Garcia isn't the reason why he approached another trainer. But we can't say for sure and I hope that's not the case as it was just a shallow reasoning.

Yeah, Garcia might have a higher chance of winning this match but I also want to see him struggle and to see that Tagoe isn't an easy one to defeat just like his records show.

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this being a boxing fight between seniors and juniors what I mean is there is quite a big age difference, Garcia is at a young age to fight, while Tagoe is at a mature age. This fight was organized by Boxing Promoter De la Hoya, Statistically Garcia has never lost, and Tagoe has only suffered 1 defeat. Garcia Delighted to tagoe for taking this match, Karean Garcia hasn't played in a long time since his last match with Campbell last year.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on February 18, 2022, 11:31:06 PM

For a long shot, a Tagoe bet will be really be attractive, maybe he could upset Garcia. But as you have said, this is Ryan's comeback fight so for sure he wants us to be impressed with him again so I doubt that he will allow an upset from a relatively unknown fighter. So as I have said, for us who are not a whale but smart bettor, we will rather wait for other options so that we can get bang for our money. And if ever we lose it's not that huge amount.

For whales, the odd for Garcia's ML is worth enough, but for a simple gambler that's a big amount that needed

to win a decent, not worthy if you are not really into this kind of betting, its far better to wait for the alternative options, bookies
will provide if there's other available for this fight.

Not being Bias, but KO for Garcia's favor will be interesting. I agree that it is important to him to bring the hype back in his name.
If he's here to impress his fans, he might push this into a KO.

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Quote from: Bloodseekers on February 19, 2022, 12:40:59 AM

this being a boxing fight between seniors and juniors what I mean is there is quite a big age difference, Garcia is at a young age to fight, while Tagoe is at a mature age. This fight was organized by Boxing Promoter De la Hoya, Statistically Garcia has never lost, and Tagoe has only suffered 1 defeat. Garcia Delighted to tagoe for taking this match, Karean Garcia hasn't played in a long time since his last match with Campbell last year.

Tagoe has a good record. Just one lose.Well, maybe 2 with Ryan or probably this guy (Tagoe) give a huge surprise, who knows. Grin

Lets wait for the fight.

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So here are the odds as per sportsbet.io

Ryan Garcia - 1.08
Emmanuel Tagoe - 6.60

So there is a huge gap as far as the odds goes. And it seems that Ryan Garcia is a sure win to win this fight.

No other betting options available though, might be better to bet on which exact rounds will Garcia will win, or the range of rounds.

There will surely be more betting options available in the coming days. For now, the opening odds are limited to money line betting. I also checked the odds days ago and they are quite discouraging. Although I could place a minimum bet for Tagoe for the sake of the high return but I really doubt he could defeat Ryan. But who knows what effects Ryan Garcia's more than one year of inactivity has to his boxing power and skills? Somebody might think it is worth the risk. For me, I'd rather wait for more options.

For a long shot, a Tagoe bet will be really be attractive, maybe he could upset Garcia. But as you have said, this is Ryan's comeback fight so for sure he wants us to be impressed with him again so I doubt that he will allow an upset from a relatively unknown fighter. So as I have said, for us who are not a whale but smart bettor, we will rather wait for other options so that we can get bang for our money. And if ever we lose it's not that huge amount.

There's a possibility that an upset will happen, but just like what the odds are saying, the chance is very slim because Ryan Garcia is a popular fighter, a champion while Tagoe is an unknown fighter who is only good on record but has not fought yet a legit champion in boxing.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on February 18, 2022, 09:18:19 AM

So here are the odds as per sportsbet.io

Ryan Garcia - 1.08
Emmanuel Tagoe - 6.60

So there is a huge gap as far as the odds goes. And it seems that Ryan Garcia is a sure win to win this fight.

No other betting options available though, might be better to bet on which exact rounds will Garcia will win, or the range of rounds.

There will surely be more betting options available in the coming days. For now, the opening odds are limited to money line betting. I also checked the odds days ago and they are quite discouraging. Although I could place a minimum bet for Tagoe for the sake of the high return but I really doubt he could defeat Ryan. But who knows what effects Ryan Garcia's more than one year of inactivity has to his boxing power and skills? Somebody might think it is worth the risk. For me, I'd rather wait for more options.

For a long shot, a Tagoe bet will be really be attractive, maybe he could upset Garcia. But as you have said, this is Ryan's comeback fight so for sure he wants us to be impressed with him again so I doubt that he will allow an upset from a relatively unknown fighter. So as I have said, for us who are not a whale but smart bettor, we will rather wait for other options so that we can get bang for our money. And if ever we lose it's not that huge amount.

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Quote from: goinmerry on February 17, 2022, 09:22:09 PM

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I can't believed that Garcia has choosen Joe Goosen as his trainer for this fight. I mean he has been with Eddy Reynoso, the trainer of Canelo Alvarez and it seems he is doing good for Ryan and Alvarez and Garcia is very close.

That's why I was surprised to see Canelo criticizing Garcia at one point. Maybe he already severed his tie with Reynoso or if this is just a one time trainer with Goosen.

There should be no bitterness or something related to that. Everything changes or unexpected things really happened. Regardless of the history or issues with the trainer, the important part is, if they will be a big help to those who hired their service.

Ryan Garcia, whatever the reason he made that selection should not be a problem.

Let's see at some point if their tandem will make Ryan a much better fighter.

I didn't say though that there is bitterness from Ryan Garcia, I'm just surprised by the move and then seeing Canelo going into public and saying things against Garcia might have been the trigger point.

@Kasabus - yeah, for sure this will be a test for Garcia, but I don't think that the rounds an be extended. I'm seeing Garcia maybe winning by less than 8 rounds?

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on February 18, 2022, 09:18:19 AM

So here are the odds as per sportsbet.io

Ryan Garcia - 1.08
Emmanuel Tagoe - 6.60

So there is a huge gap as far as the odds goes. And it seems that Ryan Garcia is a sure win to win this fight.

No other betting options available though, might be better to bet on which exact rounds will Garcia will win, or the range of rounds.

There will surely be more betting options available in the coming days. For now, the opening odds are limited to money line betting. I also checked the odds days ago and they are quite discouraging. Although I could place a minimum bet for Tagoe for the sake of the high return but I really doubt he could defeat Ryan. But who knows what effects Ryan Garcia's more than one year of inactivity has to his boxing power and skills? Somebody might think it is worth the risk. For me, I'd rather wait for more options.

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Ryan is good and young fighter, the last time I watched his fight was the time he fought against Campbell which was very interesting. Ryan's punches is so powerful despite his looks young. Tagoe is an experienced fighter but I doubt if it will be easy for him to defeat Ryan.

Ryan's strength due to his age is an edge when it comes to the boxing ring. He never fails to surprise his viewers when it comes to the aggressiveness of his punches. He's still unpredictable and his speed is too surprising. I guess it would be a challenging match for Tagoe but we can't also deny the fact that Tagoe would also be tough. This is really another exciting match.

That strength brings Garcia on where he is now but I know he’s still capable of doing better things, like to become more aggressive and have a good speed on his punches. Tagoe also have a good record in boxing and a great strength, no doubt that this will be a great fight as well and looking forward for this day to come. I still think Garcia will have the advantage here.

Exactly mate, Garcia has a bright future in this industry given that he's capable of doing things unexpected due to his movements and speed in such a young age and a better edge to any opponent and that alone will be his advantage, well except from the fact that Golden Boy have cherry picked this opponent. Tagoe is a little unknown to us because as I saw his record, most of his games are held locally but he's a decent and tough one for sure, I'm looking forward that if indeed Tagoe will be defeated then at least I do hope that he will give Garcia a tough match or make him struggle.

If Ryan Garcia could not defeat Tagoe, then his future is not expected to be bright. He is out for a year and he should come back strong, I'm expecting a win but I am not 100% confident as I saw what happened to Garcia in his previous fight, he is not strong enough, he has a weakness and if Tagoe will find his weak spot, he might pull an upset.

Tagoe have much more experience than the kid that's why I want Tagoe to test Garcia's capabilities especially in long rounds if he is indeed a promising boxer with a promising future. Garcia is expected to come back strong after his tough fight against Campbell who also knocked him out if I'm not mistaken but if Garcia will be defeated against this cherry picked opponent, then I don't know what will happen next.

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Ryan is good and young fighter, the last time I watched his fight was the time he fought against Campbell which was very interesting. Ryan's punches is so powerful despite his looks young. Tagoe is an experienced fighter but I doubt if it will be easy for him to defeat Ryan.

Ryan's strength due to his age is an edge when it comes to the boxing ring. He never fails to surprise his viewers when it comes to the aggressiveness of his punches. He's still unpredictable and his speed is too surprising. I guess it would be a challenging match for Tagoe but we can't also deny the fact that Tagoe would also be tough. This is really another exciting match.

That strength brings Garcia on where he is now but I know he’s still capable of doing better things, like to become more aggressive and have a good speed on his punches. Tagoe also have a good record in boxing and a great strength, no doubt that this will be a great fight as well and looking forward for this day to come. I still think Garcia will have the advantage here.

Exactly mate, Garcia has a bright future in this industry given that he's capable of doing things unexpected due to his movements and speed in such a young age and a better edge to any opponent and that alone will be his advantage, well except from the fact that Golden Boy have cherry picked this opponent. Tagoe is a little unknown to us because as I saw his record, most of his games are held locally but he's a decent and tough one for sure, I'm looking forward that if indeed Tagoe will be defeated then at least I do hope that he will give Garcia a tough match or make him struggle.

If Ryan Garcia could not defeat Tagoe, then his future is not expected to be bright. He is out for a year and he should come back strong, I'm expecting a win but I am not 100% confident as I saw what happened to Garcia in his previous fight, he is not strong enough, he has a weakness and if Tagoe will find his weak spot, he might pull an upset.

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Quote from: Masplanc on February 07, 2022, 12:14:56 PM

Ryan is good and young fighter, the last time I watched his fight was the time he fought against Campbell which was very interesting. Ryan's punches is so powerful despite his looks young. Tagoe is an experienced fighter but I doubt if it will be easy for him to defeat Ryan.

Ryan's strength due to his age is an edge when it comes to the boxing ring. He never fails to surprise his viewers when it comes to the aggressiveness of his punches. He's still unpredictable and his speed is too surprising. I guess it would be a challenging match for Tagoe but we can't also deny the fact that Tagoe would also be tough. This is really another exciting match.

That strength brings Garcia on where he is now but I know he’s still capable of doing better things, like to become more aggressive and have a good speed on his punches. Tagoe also have a good record in boxing and a great strength, no doubt that this will be a great fight as well and looking forward for this day to come. I still think Garcia will have the advantage here.

Exactly mate, Garcia has a bright future in this industry given that he's capable of doing things unexpected due to his movements and speed in such a young age and a better edge to any opponent and that alone will be his advantage, well except from the fact that Golden Boy have cherry picked this opponent. Tagoe is a little unknown to us because as I saw his record, most of his games are held locally but he's a decent and tough one for sure, I'm looking forward that if indeed Tagoe will be defeated then at least I do hope that he will give Garcia a tough match or make him struggle.

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So here are the odds as per sportsbet.io

Ryan Garcia - 1.08
Emmanuel Tagoe - 6.60

So there is a huge gap as far as the odds goes. And it seems that Ryan Garcia is a sure win to win this fight.

No other betting options available though, might be better to bet on which exact rounds will Garcia will win, or the range of rounds.

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^^ Maybe his move is just for him to grow more. For sure he has learned a lot from Reynoso, specially the patented left hook which Canelo and Valdez has shown in their last couple of fights. And Ryan have that too, but perhaps he wanted to learn more and as the article says, they have a relationship before so there is no love lost between Goosen and Ryan Garcia. New version of him might show in this fight.

Ryan is already great but his full potential is yet to be seen, his promoters The Golden Boy promotions is cherry-picking his opponents the supposed Haney fight should have pushed through, Haney wants Garcia so badly and Tank is always ready to fight anybody, his overprotected promoters are what caused him not to advance and until now he does not have a legit title to boast, Garcia cannot go on like this and in his best interest that he change his promoters.

I guess it boils down to Golden Boy doesn't want to see Ryan damage because he has been out of the boxing for almost 2 years. So they better get someone that Ryan can beat and bring his confidence back. Maybe next necessarily win by knock out if that is not available. But at least let Ryan fight someone that will not damage on him at the same time Golden Boy can gauge if Ryan has still that mentally to fight. Remember that he has mental issues so he also need to overcome it in this fight.

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Quote from: TravelMug on February 17, 2022, 09:13:21 PM

^^ Maybe his move is just for him to grow more. For sure he has learned a lot from Reynoso, specially the patented left hook which Canelo and Valdez has shown in their last couple of fights. And Ryan have that too, but perhaps he wanted to learn more and as the article says, they have a relationship before so there is no love lost between Goosen and Ryan Garcia. New version of him might show in this fight.

Ryan is already great but his full potential is yet to be seen, his promoters The Golden Boy promotions is cherry-picking his opponents the supposed Haney fight should have pushed through, Haney wants Garcia so badly and Tank is always ready to fight anybody, his overprotected promoters are what caused him not to advance and until now he does not have a legit title to boast, Garcia cannot go on like this and in his best interest that he change his promoters.

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