[BOXING]: RYAN GARCIA vs EMMANUEL TAGOE - April 9 - page 20.

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Garcia is younger and his career is being hyped by Goldenboy, it wouldn't be surprising that he is matched to an old boxer that seem willing to lose. Just my hunch though. But this Emmanuel though I have no idea who he is looks very experience.

I'll still be rooting for Garcia. This match is designed to make Garcia look promising.

I agree if this boxer is a good one and capable of beating Garcia, there will be a postponement, Oscar Dela Hoya keeps cherry-picking opponents for Garcia, Haney wants him so badly but the Golden Boy promotions do not want to kill their cash cow yet if Garcia is good enough and DeLa Hoya trust his fighter they'll go for Tank Davis or Haney but they keep avoiding these two fighters and yet Garcia wants to be the next Pacquiao.

It's quite normal and expected that Oscar wants to build the young man's career first and to cherry pick Garcia's opponents to milk more. As the OP said, this is just an interim fight which is also a part of their deal before Garcia will face Kambosos Jr., so I have no doubts as well that this Emmanuel Tagoe will be defeated by Ryan Garcia, though experienced but will be just a stepping stone.

The question now is, can Ryan Garcia knockout Emmanuel Tagoe?

Haney and Davis are too much for Garcia's strenght, Golden boy has to weigh the options first before risking his pet. Garcia is practically just going to look like a kid who just be bullied. It will like a midget vs Lebron.

Tagoe will be fun at least Garcia will look tough if he defeated Tagoe but will also have an excuse once he lose because Tagoe is an experienced boxer.

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Definitely, no one could be sure of the outcome, however, Garcia is surely the favorite to win and though Tagoe has a decent record I think the qualify of his rights is not good enough to level the capability of Ryan Garcia in the ring. This is my personal opinion too, I could be wrong though.

Tagoe does have a pretty good record but if you look at the history of the matches he has run most of them have been done in his territory and it is very rare for him to come out like now. He's a pretty strong fighter, but it doesn't really matter that much against Garcia. I will certainly be by Garcia's side now. He always has ambition in every fight he runs and this is a pretty good credit point for him.
I feel that even if there will be no KO or TKO but in any case Garcia will win

Again, it might be that Tagoe has a good record, but he is not on the same level as Ryan Garcia. It's a careful match making obviously because they don't know if Garcia can still the pull the trigger. So they don't want to put a big risk having him fight a good contender. If he wins by KO or TKO or be the the huge favorite then we shouldn't be surprised.

Tagoe actually is a good fighter, his speed, agility, head movements, and power can somehow near Ryan Garcia's level. I'm not gonna be confident that Ryan could 100% win this fight, again because Tagoe is a good fighter and an upset might happen.
While at the same time, If Ryan wins this fight It could be a TKO. On the other hand, If Tagoe cracks the code on how to beat Garcia he'll have a chance to win the fight. Garcia was known to have a glass chin, but I don't think that's the case for him. Ryan lacks on defense and head movements because he likes to show off to the fans plus his agile as well.

I think Campbell has laid the blue print on somehow how to beat Garcia, it's timing. So Tagoe really needs to be prepared to counter Garcia and hopefully he will caught him coming in. However, Garcia has a solid chin, not unless Tagoe put his to sleep with a devastating counter. Yeah, I do agree that Ryan lacks head movement and just really go square in front of his opponents that's why Campbell was able to timing him and counter a left.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 14, 2022, 04:18:42 PM

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Tagoe does have a pretty good record but if you look at the history of the matches he has run most of them have been done in his territory and it is very rare for him to come out like now. He's a pretty strong fighter, but it doesn't really matter that much against Garcia. I will certainly be by Garcia's side now. He always has ambition in every fight he runs and this is a pretty good credit point for him.
I feel that even if there will be no KO or TKO but in any case Garcia will win

Again, it might be that Tagoe has a good record, but he is not on the same level as Ryan Garcia. It's a careful match making obviously because they don't know if Garcia can still the pull the trigger. So they don't want to put a big risk having him fight a good contender. If he wins by KO or TKO or be the the huge favorite then we shouldn't be surprised.

Actually for the level I think they are at the same level because both of them have quite good records but the reason Garcia is more advantaged is because indeed he is still one of the phenomenal boxers especially at such a young age managed to beat Campbell even by TKO and this made him even in the aspired to be a future star candidate.
On the other hand, Tagoe gets a bad stigma because he plays more in his own area and this of course gives the impression that he is a boxer who is good at home and it's time for him to make something interesting here.

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Quote from: Cryptock on February 14, 2022, 01:57:40 PM

I wouldn't be so sure Garcia would win. Of course, youth and endurance are on his side, but experience is definitely in Tagoe's favor. Tagoe is not yet the age where he can be scared of his form, so in my opinion it cannot be said that anyone here is a definite favorite.

For now, there is no odds yet for a Garcia vs. Tagoe fight, but I think when they show up they'll be quite even.

It's true Tagoe has more experience than Garcia, but you also need to look which boxer he fought. If we compare, the recent Garcia's opponent is good boxer with decent record, while Tagoe's opponent have bad record.

Anyway I've watched Tagoe's previous fight, he can box and have good speed. Garcia doesn't have a though chin, he only good on offensive style... so if we talking about skills it's has a chance to see an upset here. But I don't think Garcia want to ruin his career from unknown boxer, just my speculation they might have a behind agreement between this fight.

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Definitely, no one could be sure of the outcome, however, Garcia is surely the favorite to win and though Tagoe has a decent record I think the qualify of his rights is not good enough to level the capability of Ryan Garcia in the ring. This is my personal opinion too, I could be wrong though.

Tagoe does have a pretty good record but if you look at the history of the matches he has run most of them have been done in his territory and it is very rare for him to come out like now. He's a pretty strong fighter, but it doesn't really matter that much against Garcia. I will certainly be by Garcia's side now. He always has ambition in every fight he runs and this is a pretty good credit point for him.
I feel that even if there will be no KO or TKO but in any case Garcia will win

Again, it might be that Tagoe has a good record, but he is not on the same level as Ryan Garcia. It's a careful match making obviously because they don't know if Garcia can still the pull the trigger. So they don't want to put a big risk having him fight a good contender. If he wins by KO or TKO or be the the huge favorite then we shouldn't be surprised.

Tagoe actually is a good fighter, his speed, agility, head movements, and power can somehow near Ryan Garcia's level. I'm not gonna be confident that Ryan could 100% win this fight, again because Tagoe is a good fighter and an upset might happen.
While at the same time, If Ryan wins this fight It could be a TKO. On the other hand, If Tagoe cracks the code on how to beat Garcia he'll have a chance to win the fight. Garcia was known to have a glass chin, but I don't think that's the case for him. Ryan lacks on defense and head movements because he likes to show off to the fans plus his agile as well.

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Garcia is younger and his career is being hyped by Goldenboy, it wouldn't be surprising that he is matched to an old boxer that seem willing to lose. Just my hunch though. But this Emmanuel though I have no idea who he is looks very experience.

I'll still be rooting for Garcia. This match is designed to make Garcia look promising.

I agree if this boxer is a good one and capable of beating Garcia, there will be a postponement, Oscar Dela Hoya keeps cherry-picking opponents for Garcia, Haney wants him so badly but the Golden Boy promotions do not want to kill their cash cow yet if Garcia is good enough and DeLa Hoya trust his fighter they'll go for Tank Davis or Haney but they keep avoiding these two fighters and yet Garcia wants to be the next Pacquiao.

It's quite normal and expected that Oscar wants to build the young man's career first and to cherry pick Garcia's opponents to milk more. As the OP said, this is just an interim fight which is also a part of their deal before Garcia will face Kambosos Jr., so I have no doubts as well that this Emmanuel Tagoe will be defeated by Ryan Garcia, though experienced but will be just a stepping stone.

The question now is, can Ryan Garcia knockout Emmanuel Tagoe?

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I have been anticipating this match between logan and Tyson and I have not got any information why the fight haven't taking place
This is a fight I really want to see who the winner will be, tyson Is my favourite fighter.
Am sure him fighting with logan is not going to be a difficult challenge to him, tyson is an experienced fighter.

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His promoter, De La Hoya seemed to be very sure that he will beat Tagoe here.
But he has the reasons as I believe, Garcia will be the favorite of sportsbooks here.
Though the odds may not be very wide. So the pressure is on Garcia to win this fight to face off with Kambosos Jr.
His dream fight with Pacquiao didn't happen so he better beat all the other champions in his division.
He is still young so he still has a lot to give in the boxing ring. Can he beat Tagoe via KO?

Many are expecting that Garcia will win in this match-up so I think he can beat Tagoe with this.
I would like to see the Garcia-Kambosos Jr fight after this so I will go with Garcia with this fight. I watched some of Tagoe's highlights on youtube though and he seems fast as well but most of his fights are not outside his country though so he isn't as popular as his opponent.

Still, I believe that Garcia will win in this match-up by TKO in the first 6 rounds and will face Kambosos in the future

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Garcia will have to work his way up though, he has been out for so long that Kambosos is now the champion. But George says last month that he is interested on a Haney or Loma fight in Australia. So obviously, Garcia is out of the picture. Garcia should target another champion in the list, maybe Davis or even Haney is he is available. But first, Garcia should need to win this and it's better be by knockout to bring back the hype on his career.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on February 07, 2022, 11:21:33 AM

His promoter, De La Hoya seemed to be very sure that he will beat Tagoe here.
But he has the reasons as I believe, Garcia will be the favorite of sportsbooks here.
Though the odds may not be very wide. So the pressure is on Garcia to win this fight to face off with Kambosos Jr.
His dream fight with Pacquiao didn't happen so he better beat all the other champions in his division.
He is still young so he still has a lot to give in the boxing ring. Can he beat Tagoe via KO?

Many are expecting that Garcia will win in this match-up so I think he can beat Tagoe with this.
I would like to see the Garcia-Kambosos Jr fight after this so I will go with Garcia with this fight. I watched some of Tagoe's highlights on youtube though and he seems fast as well but most of his fights are not outside his country though so he isn't as popular as his opponent.

Still, I believe that Garcia will win in this match-up by TKO in the first 6 rounds and will face Kambosos in the future

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Obviously Garcia will win in this fight, but I don't know what's the odds from bookies... if the odds is very small I wouldn't bet and just skipping the fight since it will be boring. Garcia is young and have fought many times, why does he should cherry pick instead of become a challenger to got world title. If Tank and Kambosos are really hard opponent, he could fight with Devin Haney.

I wouldn't be so sure Garcia would win. Of course, youth and endurance are on his side, but experience is definitely in Tagoe's favor. Tagoe is not yet the age where he can be scared of his form, so in my opinion it cannot be said that anyone here is a definite favorite.

For now, there is no odds yet for a Garcia vs. Tagoe fight, but I think when they show up they'll be quite even.

Definitely, no one could be sure of the outcome, however, Garcia is surely the favorite to win and though Tagoe has a decent record I think the qualify of his rights is not good enough to level the capability of Ryan Garcia in the ring. This is my personal opinion too, I could be wrong though.

Garcia has great marketing and will definitely be favored in this fight. Right now I can see (while there aren't even the official odds yet) that a lot of people are putting him on as a sure winner in this fight. He did not lose and it is certainly a gold mine for the promoters, but I believe that Tagoe's experience should not be underestimated. He is still at an age where he can achieve a lot.

Yeah, because of Garcia's big mouth and his social media presence, he himself is a great marketing tool. But what we wanted to see him if fight Tank Davis or Haney. Specially Davis who he have been calling out years ago before he take a break in boxing. Tagoe has the experience but I think the younger one with good fundamental skills are going to win this fight.

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Obviously Garcia will win in this fight, but I don't know what's the odds from bookies... if the odds is very small I wouldn't bet and just skipping the fight since it will be boring. Garcia is young and have fought many times, why does he should cherry pick instead of become a challenger to got world title. If Tank and Kambosos are really hard opponent, he could fight with Devin Haney.

I wouldn't be so sure Garcia would win. Of course, youth and endurance are on his side, but experience is definitely in Tagoe's favor. Tagoe is not yet the age where he can be scared of his form, so in my opinion it cannot be said that anyone here is a definite favorite.

For now, there is no odds yet for a Garcia vs. Tagoe fight, but I think when they show up they'll be quite even.

Definitely, no one could be sure of the outcome, however, Garcia is surely the favorite to win and though Tagoe has a decent record I think the qualify of his rights is not good enough to level the capability of Ryan Garcia in the ring. This is my personal opinion too, I could be wrong though.

Garcia has great marketing and will definitely be favored in this fight. Right now I can see (while there aren't even the official odds yet) that a lot of people are putting him on as a sure winner in this fight. He did not lose and it is certainly a gold mine for the promoters, but I believe that Tagoe's experience should not be underestimated. He is still at an age where he can achieve a lot.

I think it's not only on the marketing side, but oddsmakers would also look at who is the better fighter based on paper and they will make the better fighter the favorite to win the fight. From the fans' perspective, we also bet on who is the popular boxer, and personally, I think Garcia is the more popular as I just recently heard the name Tagoe in boxing.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on February 14, 2022, 03:04:43 PM

Quote from: Cryptock on February 14, 2022, 01:57:40 PM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on February 13, 2022, 11:41:52 PM

Obviously Garcia will win in this fight, but I don't know what's the odds from bookies... if the odds is very small I wouldn't bet and just skipping the fight since it will be boring. Garcia is young and have fought many times, why does he should cherry pick instead of become a challenger to got world title. If Tank and Kambosos are really hard opponent, he could fight with Devin Haney.

I wouldn't be so sure Garcia would win. Of course, youth and endurance are on his side, but experience is definitely in Tagoe's favor. Tagoe is not yet the age where he can be scared of his form, so in my opinion it cannot be said that anyone here is a definite favorite.

For now, there is no odds yet for a Garcia vs. Tagoe fight, but I think when they show up they'll be quite even.

Definitely, no one could be sure of the outcome, however, Garcia is surely the favorite to win and though Tagoe has a decent record I think the qualify of his rights is not good enough to level the capability of Ryan Garcia in the ring. This is my personal opinion too, I could be wrong though.

Garcia has great marketing and will definitely be favored in this fight. Right now I can see (while there aren't even the official odds yet) that a lot of people are putting him on as a sure winner in this fight. He did not lose and it is certainly a gold mine for the promoters, but I believe that Tagoe's experience should not be underestimated. He is still at an age where he can achieve a lot.

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Quote from: izsara on February 14, 2022, 03:25:00 PM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on February 14, 2022, 03:04:43 PM

Definitely, no one could be sure of the outcome, however, Garcia is surely the favorite to win and though Tagoe has a decent record I think the qualify of his rights is not good enough to level the capability of Ryan Garcia in the ring. This is my personal opinion too, I could be wrong though.

Tagoe does have a pretty good record but if you look at the history of the matches he has run most of them have been done in his territory and it is very rare for him to come out like now. He's a pretty strong fighter, but it doesn't really matter that much against Garcia. I will certainly be by Garcia's side now. He always has ambition in every fight he runs and this is a pretty good credit point for him.
I feel that even if there will be no KO or TKO but in any case Garcia will win

Again, it might be that Tagoe has a good record, but he is not on the same level as Ryan Garcia. It's a careful match making obviously because they don't know if Garcia can still the pull the trigger. So they don't want to put a big risk having him fight a good contender. If he wins by KO or TKO or be the the huge favorite then we shouldn't be surprised.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on February 14, 2022, 03:04:43 PM

Definitely, no one could be sure of the outcome, however, Garcia is surely the favorite to win and though Tagoe has a decent record I think the qualify of his rights is not good enough to level the capability of Ryan Garcia in the ring. This is my personal opinion too, I could be wrong though.

Tagoe does have a pretty good record but if you look at the history of the matches he has run most of them have been done in his territory and it is very rare for him to come out like now. He's a pretty strong fighter, but it doesn't really matter that much against Garcia. I will certainly be by Garcia's side now. He always has ambition in every fight he runs and this is a pretty good credit point for him.
I feel that even if there will be no KO or TKO but in any case Garcia will win

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on February 13, 2022, 11:41:52 PM

Obviously Garcia will win in this fight, but I don't know what's the odds from bookies... if the odds is very small I wouldn't bet and just skipping the fight since it will be boring. Garcia is young and have fought many times, why does he should cherry pick instead of become a challenger to got world title. If Tank and Kambosos are really hard opponent, he could fight with Devin Haney.

I wouldn't be so sure Garcia would win. Of course, youth and endurance are on his side, but experience is definitely in Tagoe's favor. Tagoe is not yet the age where he can be scared of his form, so in my opinion it cannot be said that anyone here is a definite favorite.

For now, there is no odds yet for a Garcia vs. Tagoe fight, but I think when they show up they'll be quite even.

Definitely, no one could be sure of the outcome, however, Garcia is surely the favorite to win and though Tagoe has a decent record I think the qualify of his rights is not good enough to level the capability of Ryan Garcia in the ring. This is my personal opinion too, I could be wrong though.

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Right, Ryan has all the physical specimen to become the next big man in boxing. Just like in his last fight, he was able to comeback from the canvass and score a victory. What I don't like about this kid though is that he is more on the social media and he is too loud and brandish and calling any fighters that interest him. I still remember him fighting Manny Pacquiao next but it didn't materialized.

I am also annoyed by kids who go with cams everywhere and post almost every minute of their private lives on social media. However, we live in a time where if any fighter wants to earn big money, he has to prove that he will be able to attract people's interest in his fight. At the moment, what money will appear on the contract largely depends on how many followers a given boxer has on his social media profiles. So I'm not surprised that he has this approach.

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^^ I guess were really live in the social media era. I mean everyone has some kind of presence online. So if you are a sport personalities, you can used that platform to promote yourself, just like what Ryan is doing. But do I agree that sometimes he went overboard with it that you have to think if ever he is still serious in his career or just wanting to have followers in his twitter or instagram. But whatever it is, the hype is still around him so I guess the can do whatever he wants in his account.

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Garcia is younger and his career is being hyped by Goldenboy, it wouldn't be surprising that he is matched to an old boxer that seem willing to lose. Just my hunch though. But this Emmanuel though I have no idea who he is looks very experience.

I'll still be rooting for Garcia. This match is designed to make Garcia look promising.

Oscar De La Hoya of the Golden Boy Promotions is the brain behind Garcia's fights, making him as a functional cash cow. This fight though is just an interim while Oscar negotiates Lou DiBella (G. Kambosos Jr's promoter) in the meantime given that Garcia will defeat Tagoe first.

Emmanuel (33 years old) is much more experienced than Garcia though with 33 bouts and 15 of that via KO, so yeah much more lower KO rate than Garcia and unfortunately the latter will just be a stepping stone to the rising star.

As someone who has watched fights of Ryan Garcia on the ring, his explosiveness, accuracy, and long-reach is what makes him an exceptional fighter. Like what you have mentioned, De La Hoya is somehow making Garcia the next 'golden boy' on the ring as he is being promoted every time he fights.

According to boxrec, Emmanuel Tagoe is definitely an experienced fighter on the ring. With 32W (15KOs) and only 1 loss, he is someone that cannot be taken lightly, even if you are Ryan Garcia. Though experience would be key in this match, I do have my bet to Ryan Garcia primarily due to the fact that his punches are more explosive.

Right, Ryan has all the physical specimen to become the next big man in boxing. Just like in his last fight, he was able to comeback from the canvass and score a victory. What I don't like about this kid though is that he is more on the social media and he is too loud and brandish and calling any fighters that interest him. I still remember him fighting Manny Pacquiao next but it didn't materialized.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on February 13, 2022, 11:41:52 PM

Obviously Garcia will win in this fight, but I don't know what's the odds from bookies... if the odds is very small I wouldn't bet and just skipping the fight since it will be boring. Garcia is young and have fought many times, why does he should cherry pick instead of become a challenger to got world title. If Tank and Kambosos are really hard opponent, he could fight with Devin Haney.

I wouldn't be so sure Garcia would win. Of course, youth and endurance are on his side, but experience is definitely in Tagoe's favor. Tagoe is not yet the age where he can be scared of his form, so in my opinion it cannot be said that anyone here is a definite favorite.

For now, there is no odds yet for a Garcia vs. Tagoe fight, but I think when they show up they'll be quite even.

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Garcia is younger and his career is being hyped by Goldenboy, it wouldn't be surprising that he is matched to an old boxer that seem willing to lose. Just my hunch though. But this Emmanuel though I have no idea who he is looks very experience.

I'll still be rooting for Garcia. This match is designed to make Garcia look promising.

Oscar De La Hoya of the Golden Boy Promotions is the brain behind Garcia's fights, making him as a functional cash cow. This fight though is just an interim while Oscar negotiates Lou DiBella (G. Kambosos Jr's promoter) in the meantime given that Garcia will defeat Tagoe first.

Emmanuel (33 years old) is much more experienced than Garcia though with 33 bouts and 15 of that via KO, so yeah much more lower KO rate than Garcia and unfortunately the latter will just be a stepping stone to the rising star.

As someone who has watched fights of Ryan Garcia on the ring, his explosiveness, accuracy, and long-reach is what makes him an exceptional fighter. Like what you have mentioned, De La Hoya is somehow making Garcia the next 'golden boy' on the ring as he is being promoted every time he fights.

According to boxrec, Emmanuel Tagoe is definitely an experienced fighter on the ring. With 32W (15KOs) and only 1 loss, he is someone that cannot be taken lightly, even if you are Ryan Garcia. Though experience would be key in this match, I do have my bet to Ryan Garcia primarily due to the fact that his punches are more explosive.

What would be interesting here is that if in case, for the surprise of the spectator fans, Tagoe will pull an upset.
Because we can never be sure about their performance inside the ring, right?
Unless, there is prior arrangement between the two camps, which is not known to public.
Though I am rooting for Garcia here, he should really make sure he is prepared for this fight.

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