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We don't know what will be the next destination for Canelo after the fight against Ryder, maybe he will choose what's the best money maker for him, as for now, Bivol for me can bring more hypes after he suffered a lost against the champ, rematch might be set up between the two and if that's the case and if ever Alvarez will win the chance for Benavidez to face him will be delayed.

All will be decided after the fight of Canelo and we will hear an update for sure if what's the camp next plan for the champ!

Yup! Dmitry Bivol is a good hype and a lot of money in my opinion, but it is a big risk to take a Dmitry Bivol fight again, and people are wanting more of him when he defeats John Ryder if he defeats John Ryder, I think David Benavidez is good money aswell, I think that guy has many onlookers now since he defeats Plant many will really expect a Canelo Alvarez VS David Benavidez, fight


If Canelo really wants to avenge his loss, he shouldn't waste time and should fight Bivol after his upcoming fight. I'm pretty sure he will win, and his preparation should be enough as he has already won fights (including this one) after his loss against Bivol. Anyone who fights Canelo will make a lot of money as he is a popular fighter, so it wouldn't be hard to sell the fight.

It sounded like you are underestimating Dmitry Bivol, I really think that Dmitry Bivol is more technical than Canelo Alvarez, but we will see when they fight again because I have seen the style of Canelo is still the same, but he is not getting younger so if he wants to have a revenge fight against Dmitry Bivol he should just take that because this opportunity is once in a lifetime, that is if he's ready to risk a lost status again,
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Canelo had his hand operation in October and had Improved a lot from the Surgery.His coach also discussed about this,the Canelo will back to form before the Mexico matches.In Mexico matches,he will face the Ryder for the second time.Bivol had won the Canelo and Canelo had a wish to win the Bivol on the Mexico league too.When the match of Canelo with Ryder,he can easily able to win the good amount of money from that match.He should use the match very well to gain good money for his future settlement.The money earning options against Bivol will not work for him in this Mexico match.

What second time? this is not a rematch with Ryder, this is the first time that we will be facing this fighter in Mexico. And as most of the posters said, this is tune up fight, get busy fight, cherry pick fight or whatever you describe it.

Again, we are just getting ahead of ourselves, Canelo wanted a rematch with Bivol but we don't know if that will be happening in Mexico in the future. He had this easy fight in his home country, so let's leave it like that and then see how Canelo's performance after his hand surgery.
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Canelo had his hand operation in October and had Improved a lot from the Surgery.His coach also discussed about this,the Canelo will back to form before the Mexico matches.In Mexico matches,he will face the Ryder for the second time.Bivol had won the Canelo and Canelo had a wish to win the Bivol on the Mexico league too.When the match of Canelo with Ryder,he can easily able to win the good amount of money from that match.He should use the match very well to gain good money for his future settlement.The money earning options against Bivol will not work for him in this Mexico match.
We don't know how his hands will be unless we see him fight John Ryder. Of course, they chose him because it's going to be an easy fight for Canelo and to really test and feel that hand first in this fight. And maybe after that he will have to decide if they will go or at least Bivol is wiling for a rematch with Canelo.

Speaking of David Benavidez, his team specially his father wanted a clash with Canelo.

David said Canelo need to test himself against fighter of his caliber. And for him, with a win against Plant, he deserves to be the next in line for Canelo after his John Ryder fight.
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Canelo had his hand operation in October and had Improved a lot from the Surgery.His coach also discussed about this,the Canelo will back to form before the Mexico matches.In Mexico matches,he will face the Ryder for the second time.Bivol had won the Canelo and Canelo had a wish to win the Bivol on the Mexico league too.When the match of Canelo with Ryder,he can easily able to win the good amount of money from that match.He should use the match very well to gain good money for his future settlement.The money earning options against Bivol will not work for him in this Mexico match.

Because Bivol may had a chance to win the Canelo and doesn’t have own strategy to win the Ryder.Because Ryder is like a King to ruin both the reputation of the Canelo and Bivol.Better you can place the bet on Ryder on both the matches against the Ryder.
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We will see his fate after winning the fight against Plant, he got that interim ticket to challenge Canelo we just need to wait for Alvarez response after the fight against Ryder,  and I can agree to your sentiment regarding to Benavidez, he wants the belt and he will do his best to earn it, whoever the title holder as long as they will accept his challenge then it will take place.

Canelo has no choice but to accept the supposed deal with Benavidez regardless of anything.

However, even with Benavidez winning against Plant recently, it seems that Benavidez didn't really call the attention of Canelo. There are even speculations that Canelo vs Bivol II is much more anticipated by most boxing fans as they think Benavidez can easily be handled by Canelo and the former is just full of talks.

Regardless though, Canelo's camp maybe has to consider granting Benavidez interest for a long of facing Canelo and just settles everything in the actual fight.

We don't know what will be the next destination for Canelo after the fight against Ryder, maybe he will choose what's the best money maker for him, as for now, Bivol for me can bring more hypes after he suffered a lost against the champ, rematch might be set up between the two and if that's the case and if ever Alvarez will win the chance for Benavidez to face him will be delayed.

All will be decided after the fight of Canelo and we will hear an update for sure if what's the camp next plan for the champ!

If Canelo really wants to avenge his loss, he shouldn't waste time and should fight Bivol after his upcoming fight. I'm pretty sure he will win, and his preparation should be enough as he has already won fights (including this one) after his loss against Bivol. Anyone who fights Canelo will make a lot of money as he is a popular fighter, so it wouldn't be hard to sell the fight.
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We will see his fate after winning the fight against Plant, he got that interim ticket to challenge Canelo we just need to wait for Alvarez response after the fight against Ryder,  and I can agree to your sentiment regarding to Benavidez, he wants the belt and he will do his best to earn it, whoever the title holder as long as they will accept his challenge then it will take place.

Canelo has no choice but to accept the supposed deal with Benavidez regardless of anything.

However, even with Benavidez winning against Plant recently, it seems that Benavidez didn't really call the attention of Canelo. There are even speculations that Canelo vs Bivol II is much more anticipated by most boxing fans as they think Benavidez can easily be handled by Canelo and the former is just full of talks.

Regardless though, Canelo's camp maybe has to consider granting Benavidez interest for a long of facing Canelo and just settles everything in the actual fight.

We don't know what will be the next destination for Canelo after the fight against Ryder, maybe he will choose what's the best money maker for him, as for now, Bivol for me can bring more hypes after he suffered a lost against the champ, rematch might be set up between the two and if that's the case and if ever Alvarez will win the chance for Benavidez to face him will be delayed.

All will be decided after the fight of Canelo and we will hear an update for sure if what's the camp next plan for the champ!
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We will see his fate after winning the fight against Plant, he got that interim ticket to challenge Canelo we just need to wait for Alvarez response after the fight against Ryder,  and I can agree to your sentiment regarding to Benavidez, he wants the belt and he will do his best to earn it, whoever the title holder as long as they will accept his challenge then it will take place.

Canelo has no choice but to accept the supposed deal with Benavidez regardless of anything.

However, even with Benavidez winning against Plant recently, it seems that Benavidez didn't really call the attention of Canelo. There are even speculations that Canelo vs Bivol II is much more anticipated by most boxing fans as they think Benavidez can easily be handled by Canelo and the former is just full of talks.

Regardless though, Canelo's camp maybe has to consider granting Benavidez interest for a long of facing Canelo and just settles everything in the actual fight.
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Of course, the only reason why David Benavidez is interested to Canelo is because the latter got all the belts and it's not a personal vendetta or what that we could somehow say that regardless of the outcome of Canelo's future battle, Benavidez will always want to get his chance but that's not the case. Benavidez is seeking for the belts and whoever got that will surely be chased by him, even if that means chasing Bivol as he already stated recently that he is also eyeing for the WBA champion, Dmitry Bivol.

We will see his fate after winning the fight against Plant, he got that interim ticket to challenge Canelo we just need to wait for Alvarez response after the fight against Ryder,  and I can agree to your sentiment regarding to Benavidez, he wants the belt and he will do his best to earn it, whoever the title holder as long as they will accept his challenge then it will take place.

Benavidez is rank no.1 on Ring and an interim champion on WBC.  If we look at it, Benavidez has two councils where he can be a mandatory challenger.  So if anyone who is the most worth opponent for Alvarez in terms of challenging him for the title, then it is Benavidez.  Sadly as other stated, it looks like Alvarez eyes is fixed on avenging his lost from Bivol so Alvarez might be fighting Bivol next after this title defense.

Let see what will be the next update for Benavidez after this win.

Yeah, that is all we can do, just wait for the updates because each boxer have their own plans, we just hope that their plan coincides with each other.
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I don't think Canelo though is like avoiding him, it is just Benavidez at this point in his career hasn't beaten anyone to deserved a Canelo shot specially at the super middleweight wherein Canelo clean that division already. While Canelo seems to be looking to cement his legacy, Benavidez is climbing and looking for fight that will give him the biggest paycheck.

Benavidez even thinks that he can really beat Canelo at the point of his career that's why he worked hard in getting to where he is now.

He's really aiming for Canelo, and that's what fueled his determination to take down Caleb Plant at the bad and worst situation as possible.

Just less than a day waiting and we will now witness the fight between Benavidez and Plant main event, March 25th.

Benavidez manage to beat Plant via decision, unexpectedly but yes Plant survive the entire rounds but lose the fight in a 3 judges decision all in favor of Benavidez, now it will be a good hypes for this heavy puncher monster to call for Alvarez though we know that it will be a negotiation between two camps and how the promoters will bring the offers to attract both camps to sign a contract.

Congrats to all those bettors who bets and win the main event between Plant vs Benavidez!

Alvarez is too busy, LOL, he had John Ryder in his plate right now and then a Bivol rematch. yes, we want to see Alvarez vs Benadivez, all Mexican brawl but Canelo will not give him that fight for now.

On the other hand, might be good for Benavidez to just continue his reign of terror as co-champion with Alvarez at the WBC body.

Maybe he will have this chance later or next year, just keep a busy year and fight someone in the top 3 of their rankings like Christian Mbilli  to proved his case against Alvarez.

Alvarez vs Benavidez will not happen if Alvarez losses to Ryder or Bivol. Benavidez winning against Plant may give a higher possibility for Alvarez-Benavidez fight but as you stated, there is a lot on the plate of Alvarez right now.  We might see them fighting after a year or two, probably if Alvarez is able to retain his title.

Of course, the only reason why David Benavidez is interested to Canelo is because the latter got all the belts and it's not a personal vendetta or what that we could somehow say that regardless of the outcome of Canelo's future battle, Benavidez will always want to get his chance but that's not the case. Benavidez is seeking for the belts and whoever got that will surely be chased by him, even if that means chasing Bivol as he already stated recently that he is also eyeing for the WBA champion, Dmitry Bivol.

Everybody wants to get a chance to face a champ, every tough guy aims for the biggest prize to get fame. Canelo is fixed on Bivol though. It's the rematch that he wants.

Fans always want Canelo to fight someone after defeating one but this time he is the one who is asking. If he is going to be defeated by Benavidez, Canelo might not ever have the chance to fight Bivol.
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Of course, the only reason why David Benavidez is interested to Canelo is because the latter got all the belts and it's not a personal vendetta or what that we could somehow say that regardless of the outcome of Canelo's future battle, Benavidez will always want to get his chance but that's not the case. Benavidez is seeking for the belts and whoever got that will surely be chased by him, even if that means chasing Bivol as he already stated recently that he is also eyeing for the WBA champion, Dmitry Bivol.

We will see his fate after winning the fight against Plant, he got that interim ticket to challenge Canelo we just need to wait for Alvarez response after the fight against Ryder,  and I can agree to your sentiment regarding to Benavidez, he wants the belt and he will do his best to earn it, whoever the title holder as long as they will accept his challenge then it will take place.

Let see what will be the next update for Benavidez after this win.
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I don't think Canelo though is like avoiding him, it is just Benavidez at this point in his career hasn't beaten anyone to deserved a Canelo shot specially at the super middleweight wherein Canelo clean that division already. While Canelo seems to be looking to cement his legacy, Benavidez is climbing and looking for fight that will give him the biggest paycheck.

Benavidez even thinks that he can really beat Canelo at the point of his career that's why he worked hard in getting to where he is now.

He's really aiming for Canelo, and that's what fueled his determination to take down Caleb Plant at the bad and worst situation as possible.

Just less than a day waiting and we will now witness the fight between Benavidez and Plant main event, March 25th.

Benavidez manage to beat Plant via decision, unexpectedly but yes Plant survive the entire rounds but lose the fight in a 3 judges decision all in favor of Benavidez, now it will be a good hypes for this heavy puncher monster to call for Alvarez though we know that it will be a negotiation between two camps and how the promoters will bring the offers to attract both camps to sign a contract.

Congrats to all those bettors who bets and win the main event between Plant vs Benavidez!

Alvarez is too busy, LOL, he had John Ryder in his plate right now and then a Bivol rematch. yes, we want to see Alvarez vs Benadivez, all Mexican brawl but Canelo will not give him that fight for now.

On the other hand, might be good for Benavidez to just continue his reign of terror as co-champion with Alvarez at the WBC body.

Maybe he will have this chance later or next year, just keep a busy year and fight someone in the top 3 of their rankings like Christian Mbilli  to proved his case against Alvarez.

Alvarez vs Benavidez will not happen if Alvarez losses to Ryder or Bivol. Benavidez winning against Plant may give a higher possibility for Alvarez-Benavidez fight but as you stated, there is a lot on the plate of Alvarez right now.  We might see them fighting after a year or two, probably if Alvarez is able to retain his title.

Of course, the only reason why David Benavidez is interested to Canelo is because the latter got all the belts and it's not a personal vendetta or what that we could somehow say that regardless of the outcome of Canelo's future battle, Benavidez will always want to get his chance but that's not the case. Benavidez is seeking for the belts and whoever got that will surely be chased by him, even if that means chasing Bivol as he already stated recently that he is also eyeing for the WBA champion, Dmitry Bivol.
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Technically, that should be the case.

However, there are things that might influence a supposed fight. Canelo sticks to his quote before that he will never face a fellow Mexican although, at some point in his past interview, he added that if things really can't avoid, he will fight anybody. He might consider facing Benavidez in the future as the latter earned his spot to be eligible to face Canelo.

Ah, that is why many are saying Canelo is ducking Benavidez, it s not because he is afraid of Benavidez but the statement he made before that he does not want to fight his fellow Mexican unless is avoidable.  It does make sense now why there is almost no chance for Canelo and Benavidez unless mandated by the sanctioning bodies.

Moving forward, Benavidez is determined to beat Caleb Plant for the possible face-off with Canelo later on. And if Canelo will still insists on not fighting Benavidez because of his view about fighting fellow Mexicans, no choice but to drop his belt or there might be some boxing-related politics that will ruin the possibility of that match happening.

If Benavidez beat Caleb, the super middleweight boxing will be more interesting because there is a chance that WBC might implement a mandatory title fight between Benavidez and Canelo.  I think Canelo will give in to the order and fight Benavidez.

The truth is, I would like Canelo to be able to face Benavidez, also, as Canelo is, he should accept the challenge, I don't understand why some boxers have to beg so much, Canelo wants to fight with everyone and in the end he doesn't fight with anyone, I understand that Canelo He wants to measure himself with the best, but if the others already have their commitments, a Famous boxer should not be with those things, he should have enough Conviction of what he is and what they have, There is no other way.


I agree. The governing bodies should step up and meddle in in these situations because they are the only ones who can fix the system because there are lots of good boxers that are waiting for their time to shine and it may take much more than a while to have their chance because these champions are keeping the belt at safe while only fighting cherry-picked fights. These interim champions should be given the priority to have a bite against the regular belt holder because they thrived hard to be in the exact position where they are in now. Just look at the welterweight division, there are a lot of good names there but they cannot move because Spence is taking their chance away and messing with everybody's time.
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Big fight this weekend as Anthony Joshua takes on Jermaine Franklin.

Who would you bet on?
I don't think it's a big fight, Jermaine Franklin is an unknown boxer in heavyweight division. This is just a warm up for Joshua since he have lost two times against Usyk and he can't get back his belts.

It's obvious Joshua will win, but the moneyline odds is really small. It's only profitable if you bet Joshua to win via decision or you bet on winner & round range option, but it's quite unpredictable. His few recent fights, he knock out his opponent at 7-9 round range and 10-12 round range.
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Big fight this weekend as Anthony Joshua takes on Jermaine Franklin.
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AJ in his fight with Usyk was slow and not aggressive enough. In the second fight, I expected him to do better than the first fight, but it was almost the same showing. I hope he has learnt some lessons from that defeat and improved his fighting technique. It's been long that AJ has enjoyed victory, he lost two fights to Usyk. I am scared for AJ because his career could most likely end from this fight if he losses to the American Jermaine so I expect he will be putting in his best because a win in this fight for him will make some other fights more possible, fight with Dillian Whyte and Deontay Wilder which they have plans for. For Jermaine, this is a big fight for him, he will not make things easy for AJ even though he is the underdog in this fight. I still will bet on AJ to win, he really needs this victory, maybe that will make him aggressive.

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As far as Commey vs Ramirez, it was a clear win by Ramirez as he knockout Richard in the 11th round, and as I have said previously, Ramirez is going to break him down up to round 10 and that's what happen here, before the knockout, Commey went down first, beat the count, unfortunately it's just a matter of time before Ramirez goes for the finisher.

And I guess that's it for Commey, had a good and solid career, but I guess he is way past his prime already and he could damage his health if he chases big fights at 140 as this division is very loaded with good and talented fighters. It was a great fight though between the two, Commey really tried his best and even have good rounds. But at the end of the day, Ramirez is too big for him.

Yes, Comney has nothing to offer in this fight, I mean sure he was a former champion, but when face a tough opposition he usually falter. Teo Lopez, he got KO, Loma was down in round 7 and lost in the card, Pedraza, draw, and now against Ramirez another KO.

So he is just really a B-level fighter in my card, it's maybe the opportunity for him was presented, that's why he become a champion.

This is not his weight category, he will get the worst beating if he will face another champion in 140 lbs or even any high rank fighter in this class.
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As far as Commey vs Ramirez, it was a clear win by Ramirez as he knockout Richard in the 11th round, and as I have said previously, Ramirez is going to break him down up to round 10 and that's what happen here, before the knockout, Commey went down first, beat the count, unfortunately it's just a matter of time before Ramirez goes for the finisher.

And I guess that's it for Commey, had a good and solid career, but I guess he is way past his prime already and he could damage his health if he chases big fights at 140 as this division is very loaded with good and talented fighters. It was a great fight though between the two, Commey really tried his best and even have good rounds. But at the end of the day, Ramirez is too big for him.
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I don't think Canelo though is like avoiding him, it is just Benavidez at this point in his career hasn't beaten anyone to deserved a Canelo shot specially at the super middleweight wherein Canelo clean that division already. While Canelo seems to be looking to cement his legacy, Benavidez is climbing and looking for fight that will give him the biggest paycheck.

Benavidez even thinks that he can really beat Canelo at the point of his career that's why he worked hard in getting to where he is now.

He's really aiming for Canelo, and that's what fueled his determination to take down Caleb Plant at the bad and worst situation as possible.

Just less than a day waiting and we will now witness the fight between Benavidez and Plant main event, March 25th.

Benavidez manage to beat Plant via decision, unexpectedly but yes Plant survive the entire rounds but lose the fight in a 3 judges decision all in favor of Benavidez, now it will be a good hypes for this heavy puncher monster to call for Alvarez though we know that it will be a negotiation between two camps and how the promoters will bring the offers to attract both camps to sign a contract.

Congrats to all those bettors who bets and win the main event between Plant vs Benavidez!

Alvarez is too busy, LOL, he had John Ryder in his plate right now and then a Bivol rematch. yes, we want to see Alvarez vs Benadivez, all Mexican brawl but Canelo will not give him that fight for now.

On the other hand, might be good for Benavidez to just continue his reign of terror as co-champion with Alvarez at the WBC body.

Maybe he will have this chance later or next year, just keep a busy year and fight someone in the top 3 of their rankings like Christian Mbilli  to proved his case against Alvarez.

Alvarez vs Benavidez will not happen if Alvarez losses to Ryder or Bivol. Benavidez winning against Plant may give a higher possibility for Alvarez-Benavidez fight but as you stated, there is a lot on the plate of Alvarez right now.  We might see them fighting after a year or two, probably if Alvarez is able to retain his title.
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I don't think Canelo though is like avoiding him, it is just Benavidez at this point in his career hasn't beaten anyone to deserved a Canelo shot specially at the super middleweight wherein Canelo clean that division already. While Canelo seems to be looking to cement his legacy, Benavidez is climbing and looking for fight that will give him the biggest paycheck.

Benavidez even thinks that he can really beat Canelo at the point of his career that's why he worked hard in getting to where he is now.

He's really aiming for Canelo, and that's what fueled his determination to take down Caleb Plant at the bad and worst situation as possible.

Just less than a day waiting and we will now witness the fight between Benavidez and Plant main event, March 25th.

Benavidez manage to beat Plant via decision, unexpectedly but yes Plant survive the entire rounds but lose the fight in a 3 judges decision all in favor of Benavidez, now it will be a good hypes for this heavy puncher monster to call for Alvarez though we know that it will be a negotiation between two camps and how the promoters will bring the offers to attract both camps to sign a contract.

Congrats to all those bettors who bets and win the main event between Plant vs Benavidez!

Alvarez is too busy, LOL, he had John Ryder in his plate right now and then a Bivol rematch. yes, we want to see Alvarez vs Benadivez, all Mexican brawl but Canelo will not give him that fight for now.

On the other hand, might be good for Benavidez to just continue his reign of terror as co-champion with Alvarez at the WBC body.

Maybe he will have this chance later or next year, just keep a busy year and fight someone in the top 3 of their rankings like Christian Mbilli  to proved his case against Alvarez.
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I don't think Canelo though is like avoiding him, it is just Benavidez at this point in his career hasn't beaten anyone to deserved a Canelo shot specially at the super middleweight wherein Canelo clean that division already. While Canelo seems to be looking to cement his legacy, Benavidez is climbing and looking for fight that will give him the biggest paycheck.

Benavidez even thinks that he can really beat Canelo at the point of his career that's why he worked hard in getting to where he is now.

He's really aiming for Canelo, and that's what fueled his determination to take down Caleb Plant at the bad and worst situation as possible.

Just less than a day waiting and we will now witness the fight between Benavidez and Plant main event, March 25th.

Benavidez manage to beat Plant via decision, unexpectedly but yes Plant survive the entire rounds but lose the fight in a 3 judges decision all in favor of Benavidez, now it will be a good hypes for this heavy puncher monster to call for Alvarez though we know that it will be a negotiation between two camps and how the promoters will bring the offers to attract both camps to sign a contract.

Congrats to all those bettors who bets and win the main event between Plant vs Benavidez!
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That's how cocky Ryan Garcia is as a boxer. Many people dislike boxers who behave that way, but if he can justify his actions, then it's okay. In fact, it adds some excitement to the sport as Garcia is very vocal about challenging the best fighters. However, he has to take care of Tank Davis first, which I think will be a tough job.
Correct, defeating Tank will surely cement his claim that he can also try to beat the other champions in the higher-weight class. But I think he is forgetting that there is a rematch if ever he defeats the champion on April 22. So he should forget about challenging other opponents for now although it is obvious this is just PR so that he won't go far in the rankings if he is defeated and his popularity will always be in the trend.

He really think if the amateur fights are same like a professional fight Cheesy

It's make sense if he already beat Tank, but the fact he haven't, his plan is too far and it could ruin his life if he not achieve it. There's no odds swing, so majority still think Tank will beat Garcia. The fight will happen on the next month, hope there's no excuse about injury or something like that.
I hope so too. All this hype will be a waste if ever there's a sudden accident or the weigh-ins becomes a problem.
There are too many demands in their fight clause so it's a possible thing to happen. Fingers crossed. A lot of money is spent for this fight to materialize so there's no more backing out that should occur.
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