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Quote from: Fredomago on April 24, 2023, 12:08:20 PM

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When it's already inside the ring, no one can expect what's next to happen. Being confident is helping these fighters to step up their game but it's true that being confident isn't enough and it should be done with hard work. We saw it from the greatest that they're not just confident and it's just all talk but they're also working hard to improve and strengthen themselves. Now, this is going to make themselves also more matches to come and with Ryan Garcia, he'd crave to win for his next match whoever it will be.

Davis absorb his hook and throw a solid punch to his ribs resulting to KO him, I mean Garcia is too confident that he can beat Davis if he will be able to throw a solid punch to Davis jaw but what I've notice is Davis is ready for this strategy and instead of slowing down he push forward and attack Garcia.

Davis shows that he's more than ready facing the young fighter, he earns now the respect from Garcia after that KO.

Davis is more experienced than Garcia. Well, the respect has always been there as these two know each other and they're looking forward if by some time in the future, there will be some promotions that will make them have a 2nd round of their match.

Quote from: Fredomago on April 24, 2023, 12:08:20 PM

Hard lesson, but if Garcia will try to bounce his name up again, he really needs to work with his footworks and add more on his counter combinations.

He sure gets to learn a lot from this match and he's not everything. He'll be back for sure with another match the soonest and will apply what he has learned on this lose just as what every fighter does.

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Quote from: Japinat on April 25, 2023, 11:27:15 AM

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Quote from: freedomgo on April 24, 2023, 04:27:00 PM

Yes, I believe so too. The only remaining thing that needed by Ryan Garcia is to have defeat in-order to wake up from the harsh reality (which he got now) that he needs to wise up and man up because that left hook that he got that helped him to become what he is now will be nothing if he cannot hit the opponent with it. I mean, how could he hit them with it if he cannot even guard himself. At least he learned it on a much earlier stage and not when he's already hard enough to teach.

For sure this defeat wakes up Ryan Garcia that he is doing things the wrong way. Grin

He should see how devastating to have weak boxing fundamental especially when matched to a skilled boxer. I also think that Ryan Garcia will be working his variety of punches and angles so that it won't be predictable like what he did in the last fight. I bet he wiill practice more calmness and avoid being over aggressive because it is a mistake that can cause him the fight.

All in all, I think after this defeat, we will be seeing a better Ryan Garcia.

Hopefully that will be the case, even at a defeat, he will find some positive on it, watch the tape with his team, and see where it went wrong. But I do agree that he has a lot to improved because if he is going to face another great fighter that can punch, it will be another big L for him.

One downfall is that he did try to be over aggressive in this fight, even if he is not hitting Tank, he still continue to chase him. Even if he was caught with a knockdown punch, he goes on and fight and go for his best shot of left hook which didn't land solid on Tank.

Because he didn't used his own size advantage over Tank Garcia, instead he's the one who will reel Tank, he was the one who took the bait and chase Tank all the way up to the point where he over commits and found himself facing a punch that knocked him down in the 2nd round. I even thought that he will be more careful after that incident, but I was wrong because what he did is the very same thing until he faced his fate in the 7th round.

Hopefully he will be more wiser next time though and not be too confident just because he got a good KO ratio. He should learn a thing or two from this fight so that somehow he can be unpredictable next time.

Yes, that is certainly a lesson for Ryan Garcia and he will not surely forget because that was his first defeat. Also, I bet that almost everyone in his camp after the fight aren't that happy with the result because I strongly think Ryan Garcia didn't exactly do what is on their master plan because just like you guys said, I also don't think that chasing Tank was part of their plan instead of having Tank chasing Garcia because Tank surely cannot do something with his fist if he can't land it.

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Quote from: freedomgo on April 24, 2023, 04:27:00 PM

Yes, I believe so too. The only remaining thing that needed by Ryan Garcia is to have defeat in-order to wake up from the harsh reality (which he got now) that he needs to wise up and man up because that left hook that he got that helped him to become what he is now will be nothing if he cannot hit the opponent with it. I mean, how could he hit them with it if he cannot even guard himself. At least he learned it on a much earlier stage and not when he's already hard enough to teach.

For sure this defeat wakes up Ryan Garcia that he is doing things the wrong way. Grin

He should see how devastating to have weak boxing fundamental especially when matched to a skilled boxer. I also think that Ryan Garcia will be working his variety of punches and angles so that it won't be predictable like what he did in the last fight. I bet he wiill practice more calmness and avoid being over aggressive because it is a mistake that can cause him the fight.

All in all, I think after this defeat, we will be seeing a better Ryan Garcia.

Hopefully that will be the case, even at a defeat, he will find some positive on it, watch the tape with his team, and see where it went wrong. But I do agree that he has a lot to improved because if he is going to face another great fighter that can punch, it will be another big L for him.

One downfall is that he did try to be over aggressive in this fight, even if he is not hitting Tank, he still continue to chase him. Even if he was caught with a knockdown punch, he goes on and fight and go for his best shot of left hook which didn't land solid on Tank.

Because he didn't used his own size advantage over Tank Garcia, instead he's the one who will reel Tank, he was the one who took the bait and chase Tank all the way up to the point where he over commits and found himself facing a punch that knocked him down in the 2nd round. I even thought that he will be more careful after that incident, but I was wrong because what he did is the very same thing until he faced his fate in the 7th round.

Hopefully he will be more wiser next time though and not be too confident just because he got a good KO ratio. He should learn a thing or two from this fight so that somehow he can be unpredictable next time.

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Quote from: serjent05 on April 24, 2023, 05:04:30 PM

Quote from: freedomgo on April 24, 2023, 04:27:00 PM

Yes, I believe so too. The only remaining thing that needed by Ryan Garcia is to have defeat in-order to wake up from the harsh reality (which he got now) that he needs to wise up and man up because that left hook that he got that helped him to become what he is now will be nothing if he cannot hit the opponent with it. I mean, how could he hit them with it if he cannot even guard himself. At least he learned it on a much earlier stage and not when he's already hard enough to teach.

For sure this defeat wakes up Ryan Garcia that he is doing things the wrong way. Grin

He should see how devastating to have weak boxing fundamental especially when matched to a skilled boxer. I also think that Ryan Garcia will be working his variety of punches and angles so that it won't be predictable like what he did in the last fight. I bet he wiill practice more calmness and avoid being over aggressive because it is a mistake that can cause him the fight.

All in all, I think after this defeat, we will be seeing a better Ryan Garcia.

Hopefully that will be the case, even at a defeat, he will find some positive on it, watch the tape with his team, and see where it went wrong. But I do agree that he has a lot to improved because if he is going to face another great fighter that can punch, it will be another big L for him.

One downfall is that he did try to be over aggressive in this fight, even if he is not hitting Tank, he still continue to chase him. Even if he was caught with a knockdown punch, he goes on and fight and go for his best shot of left hook which didn't land solid on Tank.

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Quote from: freedomgo on April 24, 2023, 04:27:00 PM

Yes, I believe so too. The only remaining thing that needed by Ryan Garcia is to have defeat in-order to wake up from the harsh reality (which he got now) that he needs to wise up and man up because that left hook that he got that helped him to become what he is now will be nothing if he cannot hit the opponent with it. I mean, how could he hit them with it if he cannot even guard himself. At least he learned it on a much earlier stage and not when he's already hard enough to teach.

For sure this defeat wakes up Ryan Garcia that he is doing things the wrong way. Grin

He should see how devastating to have weak boxing fundamental especially when matched to a skilled boxer. I also think that Ryan Garcia will be working his variety of punches and angles so that it won't be predictable like what he did in the last fight. I bet he wiill practice more calmness and avoid being over aggressive because it is a mistake that can cause him the fight.

All in all, I think after this defeat, we will be seeing a better Ryan Garcia.

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Quote from: jakelyson on April 24, 2023, 12:26:29 PM

Quote from: mirakal on April 24, 2023, 08:28:15 AM

Not that hard enough to teach if it's Ryan Garcia because he's still young, I mean I know he can, it's just that he was too confident of his talent which is the lethal left hook because that is what made him reach this far until Gervonta Davis came to teach him some lesson that it's not all about talent. Boxers are expected to improve every fight but Ryan didn't, on purpose.

As saying goes, "hard work beats talent if talent doesn't work hard" and that's what happened to him on that fight.

I truly believe in that, and Gervonta Davis is like a big brother that teaches Ryan Garcia how it should be, so maybe it is a good thing that he lost this fight, some fighters could become a great boxers when dealing with this kind of lost, and Ryan Garcia could become a better fighter in the future, but surely if there are fighters recovering from certain losses there are some that don't and I really wish Ryan Garcia doesn't have a fragile mind and ego that will surely lost in this kind of lost,

Yes, I believe so too. The only remaining thing that needed by Ryan Garcia is to have defeat in-order to wake up from the harsh reality (which he got now) that he needs to wise up and man up because that left hook that he got that helped him to become what he is now will be nothing if he cannot hit the opponent with it. I mean, how could he hit them with it if he cannot even guard himself. At least he learned it on a much earlier stage and not when he's already hard enough to teach.

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Quote from: tusandii on April 24, 2023, 01:11:27 PM

Quote from: YuginKadoya on April 24, 2023, 02:42:46 AM

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It seems that Zepeda has the advantage and won't be difficult for him to win the battle.
For this fight, Zepeda has the advantage of an unbeaten record of 27-0 with 23 KOs and Zepeda has a younger age compared to Arboleda.
What's more, if we see that boxing experts will have more research on Zepeda's victory, and I myself am sure that Zepeda can beat Arboleda, at least with a point win.
This is the main fight and will be waiting for boxing fans and gamblers to be able to participate in the betting.

It's already happening this weekend but no buzz about the fight in the media.
They are not well known internationally, there could be just a few who will speculate about the fight. For the gamblers who don't know the 2, they will just rely on what others are saying or simply just trust the bookies as it always works and Zepeda has the advantage as he is a Carlos' boy.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on April 24, 2023, 02:42:46 AM

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It seems that Zepeda has the advantage and won't be difficult for him to win the battle.
For this fight, Zepeda has the advantage of an unbeaten record of 27-0 with 23 KOs and Zepeda has a younger age compared to Arboleda.
What's more, if we see that boxing experts will have more research on Zepeda's victory, and I myself am sure that Zepeda can beat Arboleda, at least with a point win.
This is the main fight and will be waiting for boxing fans and gamblers to be able to participate in the betting.

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Quote from: freedomgo on April 22, 2023, 11:12:44 AM

Safe to say that Gervonta Davis's camp is already aware of everything that could happen even before we had the chance to discuss it in here. I mean, all the possible scenarios that Ryan Garcia might execute are already expected by them and for them, what's new, this is not the first time for Davis to fight someone like Garcia who does have the power and even the size advantage.

And they also know the weakness of Ryan Garcia which is the body shots, the camp of Gervonta Davis already knows that it will be effective against Ryan Garcia, because of the catchweight and Rehydration tactics that they employ, on Ryan Garcia so for me Gervonta Davis surely has a fox-like personality witty in some aspect and definitely he got some shrewd demeanor, well I really hope that Ryan Garcia would not really take this as his downfall but just an obstacle that he would rather conquer in the future,

Quote from: mirakal on April 24, 2023, 08:28:15 AM

Not that hard enough to teach if it's Ryan Garcia because he's still young, I mean I know he can, it's just that he was too confident of his talent which is the lethal left hook because that is what made him reach this far until Gervonta Davis came to teach him some lesson that it's not all about talent. Boxers are expected to improve every fight but Ryan didn't, on purpose.

As saying goes, "hard work beats talent if talent doesn't work hard" and that's what happened to him on that fight.

I truly believe in that, and Gervonta Davis is like a big brother that teaches Ryan Garcia how it should be, so maybe it is a good thing that he lost this fight, some fighters could become a great boxers when dealing with this kind of lost, and Ryan Garcia could become a better fighter in the future, but surely if there are fighters recovering from certain losses there are some that don't and I really wish Ryan Garcia doesn't have a fragile mind and ego that will surely lost in this kind of lost,

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Quote from: blockman on April 24, 2023, 10:17:02 AM

Quote from: mirakal on April 24, 2023, 08:28:15 AM

Not that hard enough to teach if it's Ryan Garcia because he's still young, I mean I know he can, it's just that he was too confident of his talent which is the lethal left hook because that is what made him reach this far until Gervonta Davis came to teach him some lesson that it's not all about talent. Boxers are expected to improve every fight but Ryan didn't, on purpose.

As saying goes, "hard work beats talent if talent doesn't work hard" and that's what happened to him on that fight.

When it's already inside the ring, no one can expect what's next to happen. Being confident is helping these fighters to step up their game but it's true that being confident isn't enough and it should be done with hard work. We saw it from the greatest that they're not just confident and it's just all talk but they're also working hard to improve and strengthen themselves. Now, this is going to make themselves also more matches to come and with Ryan Garcia, he'd crave to win for his next match whoever it will be.

Davis absorb his hook and throw a solid punch to his ribs resulting to KO him, I mean Garcia is too confident that he can beat Davis if he will be able to throw a solid punch to Davis jaw but what I've notice is Davis is ready for this strategy and instead of slowing down he push forward and attack Garcia.

Davis shows that he's more than ready facing the young fighter, he earns now the respect from Garcia after that KO.

Hard lesson, but if Garcia will try to bounce his name up again, he really needs to work with his footworks and add more on his counter combinations.

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Quote from: mirakal on April 24, 2023, 08:28:15 AM

Not that hard enough to teach if it's Ryan Garcia because he's still young, I mean I know he can, it's just that he was too confident of his talent which is the lethal left hook because that is what made him reach this far until Gervonta Davis came to teach him some lesson that it's not all about talent. Boxers are expected to improve every fight but Ryan didn't, on purpose.

As saying goes, "hard work beats talent if talent doesn't work hard" and that's what happened to him on that fight.

When it's already inside the ring, no one can expect what's next to happen. Being confident is helping these fighters to step up their game but it's true that being confident isn't enough and it should be done with hard work. We saw it from the greatest that they're not just confident and it's just all talk but they're also working hard to improve and strengthen themselves. Now, this is going to make themselves also more matches to come and with Ryan Garcia, he'd crave to win for his next match whoever it will be.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on April 23, 2023, 08:27:41 PM

He just fell in love with his one punch knock out, which is the left hook. But Davis took it and play good defense. So yes, he really exposed weaknesses of Ryan and it was not even address though. I mean he still doesn't have that head and foot movement. I guess it's hard to teach old dogs a new trick.

Nevertheless, he already says that 140 lbs is his next target, so we will see if he can fit there. Recently it was Teo Lopez who moved up to that weight class and will challenge Josh Taylor for the belt. So there's a lot of dog fighters as well in 140 lbs that will make his moving up in weight a difficult one because of those elite fighters waiting for him.

Not that hard enough to teach if it's Ryan Garcia because he's still young, I mean I know he can, it's just that he was too confident of his talent which is the lethal left hook because that is what made him reach this far until Gervonta Davis came to teach him some lesson that it's not all about talent. Boxers are expected to improve every fight but Ryan didn't, on purpose.

As saying goes, "hard work beats talent if talent doesn't work hard" and that's what happened to him on that fight.

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I know that we still have some hangover on the Gervonta Davis VS Ryan Garcia fight and apparently I surely have many to say about the fight Ryan Garcia have thrown multiple left hooks that are now effective against Davis Garcia has known that it is not effective yet he still going for those left hook, and even though Ryan Garcia has some disadvantage going with the fight he has a sign that he is OK with Gervontas Davis set terms, Ryan Garcia just got cocky in accepting something like this, Gervonta Davis still shown that he has much fight IQ than Garcia,

But here is another fight this coming weekend

Zepeda vs. Arboleda

Saturday 04.29.2023 at 04:00 PM ET
Promotion: Golden Boy Promotions
Venue: College Park Center
Location: Arlington, Texas

MAIN EVENT

William Zepeda VS Jaime Arboleda

MAIN CARD

Diego De La Hoya VS Victor Morales Jr

Raul Curiel VS Fredrick Lawson

David Stevens VS Marco Antonio Periban

CANCELLED BOUTS

Eimantas Stanionis VS Vergil Ortiz Jr. - Ortiz Jr. Illness (Rhabdomyolysis)

Marlen Esparza vs. Celeste Alaniz - Alaniz VISA issues

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Quote from: serjent05 on April 23, 2023, 06:37:25 PM

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I am glad they showed sportsmanship in the end. Ryan congratulated Tank and he said he really respected him and that might be one of the reasons why he lose. He respected him too much, he said.
Both boxers did a good job by using social media as their promotion venue, I bet they made quite a lot of money because of that.

After all, this is all just a sports game and nothing personal because they get up there to show the world who's the strongest boxer that night and the result was amazing because as most fans expected it to happen. It's better luck next time for Garcia and he should probably fight some boxers that are not at Davis's level if he wanted to slowly recover and get back inside the ring with confidence after suffering from his first lost.

I'm curious now if Ryan Garcia will continue test his luck in super-light because it already seems that 130 pounds is not for him, because if he can't get through Davis then it is somehow assumable that he can't also defeat the current undisputed, Devin Haney and the guys under him. That was a good acid test for Ryan Garcia, he still deserve some credit because it's really not easy confronting the Tank Davis.

If you happen to watch the post interview of Ryan Garcia, he stated that he plans to move on to 140 lbs. It is plain to see that his physical growth cannot sustain his current weight division so he needs to move up in order to maximize his potential.

Ryan Garcia still needs a lot to be a force to reckon on the upper division. His recent fight shows that he is still not that experienced in taking elite fighters. He still needs a lot of experience and trained many skills to have a good chance of dominating the competition. Davis had exposed his weakness so it is better for Garcia to add more skills to his arsenal. He should work for varieties of punches, movement, ring IQ and many more. Boxing is not only dominated by physical advantage but also by tactical strategy (see Mayweather).

He just fell in love with his one punch knock out, which is the left hook. But Davis took it and play good defense. So yes, he really exposed weaknesses of Ryan and it was not even address though. I mean he still doesn't have that head and foot movement. I guess it's hard to teach old dogs a new trick.

Nevertheless, he already says that 140 lbs is his next target, so we will see if he can fit there. Recently it was Teo Lopez who moved up to that weight class and will challenge Josh Taylor for the belt. So there's a lot of dog fighters as well in 140 lbs that will make his moving up in weight a difficult one because of those elite fighters waiting for him.

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Quote from: freedomgo on April 23, 2023, 12:51:06 PM

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I am glad they showed sportsmanship in the end. Ryan congratulated Tank and he said he really respected him and that might be one of the reasons why he lose. He respected him too much, he said.
Both boxers did a good job by using social media as their promotion venue, I bet they made quite a lot of money because of that.

After all, this is all just a sports game and nothing personal because they get up there to show the world who's the strongest boxer that night and the result was amazing because as most fans expected it to happen. It's better luck next time for Garcia and he should probably fight some boxers that are not at Davis's level if he wanted to slowly recover and get back inside the ring with confidence after suffering from his first lost.

I'm curious now if Ryan Garcia will continue test his luck in super-light because it already seems that 130 pounds is not for him, because if he can't get through Davis then it is somehow assumable that he can't also defeat the current undisputed, Devin Haney and the guys under him. That was a good acid test for Ryan Garcia, he still deserve some credit because it's really not easy confronting the Tank Davis.

If you happen to watch the post interview of Ryan Garcia, he stated that he plans to move on to 140 lbs. It is plain to see that his physical growth cannot sustain his current weight division so he needs to move up in order to maximize his potential.

Ryan Garcia still needs a lot to be a force to reckon on the upper division. His recent fight shows that he is still not that experienced in taking elite fighters. He still needs a lot of experience and trained many skills to have a good chance of dominating the competition. Davis had exposed his weakness so it is better for Garcia to add more skills to his arsenal. He should work for varieties of punches, movement, ring IQ and many more. Boxing is not only dominated by physical advantage but also by tactical strategy (see Mayweather).

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Quote from: freedomgo on April 23, 2023, 03:27:24 PM

If it's about bravery then he truly deserved that praise because he fought Davis fair and square without any hint that he's afraid of the outcome. You're right, his path now will be more challenging because Davis exposed his weakness, Campbell might give the first hint but Davis is the one who totally laid it out to for the information of public and other boxers in the industry. He should be more prepared next time and improve whatever he lacks because he already have the much needed offense, time for him to reflect on his mistakes so that he can bounce back in his next fight.

Prepared means Ryan Garcia cannot only rely on his left hook anymore. I think his camp realized that after this fight against Tank Davis. That left hook could sure be deadly but his right hand is idle and that should be studied by watching the tape again.
Davis was right, what else does he have except for the left hook? All Davis did was stick on the left side of Garcia and his hook was shut down. There was even a time his left was punching in the air while Davis was going to his left side.
Garcia is young and he can learn more, this fight is a good experience for him, and now he knows there is still a big room for improvement and the gap between him and Davis is still not yet close. Train more, be a better boxer, and come back when he feels like he filled that gap. Davis said in the post-fight interview that he will keep on defending the belt. Garcia will have his shot again but not in a year or two.

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Quote from: cabron on April 23, 2023, 02:40:43 PM

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Quote from: danherbias07 on April 23, 2023, 04:45:02 AM

I am glad they showed sportsmanship in the end. Ryan congratulated Tank and he said he really respected him and that might be one of the reasons why he lose. He respected him too much, he said.
Both boxers did a good job by using social media as their promotion venue, I bet they made quite a lot of money because of that.

After all, this is all just a sports game and nothing personal because they get up there to show the world who's the strongest boxer that night and the result was amazing because as most fans expected it to happen. It's better luck next time for Garcia and he should probably fight some boxers that are not at Davis's level if he wanted to slowly recover and get back inside the ring with confidence after suffering from his first lost.

I'm curious now if Ryan Garcia will continue test his luck in super-light because it already seems that 130 pounds is not for him, because if he can't get through Davis then it is somehow assumable that he can't also defeat the current undisputed, Devin Haney and the guys under him. That was a good acid test for Ryan Garcia, he still deserve some credit because it's really not easy confronting the Tank Davis.

We can only praise him for his bravery. And while it seems there will be no rematch for him. It's too early to end his career so one option is just to do exactly like that. But now that it's seen how vulnerable he can be, he will be battered here and there.

He'd have to work out more because the door just opened. He will be tested in the heavier class, the real world awaits.

If it's about bravery then he truly deserved that praise because he fought Davis fair and square without any hint that he's afraid of the outcome. You're right, his path now will be more challenging because Davis exposed his weakness, Campbell might give the first hint but Davis is the one who totally laid it out to for the information of public and other boxers in the industry. He should be more prepared next time and improve whatever he lacks because he already have the much needed offense, time for him to reflect on his mistakes so that he can bounce back in his next fight.

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Quote from: freedomgo on April 23, 2023, 12:51:06 PM

Quote from: yazher on April 23, 2023, 07:04:46 AM

Quote from: danherbias07 on April 23, 2023, 04:45:02 AM

I am glad they showed sportsmanship in the end. Ryan congratulated Tank and he said he really respected him and that might be one of the reasons why he lose. He respected him too much, he said.
Both boxers did a good job by using social media as their promotion venue, I bet they made quite a lot of money because of that.

After all, this is all just a sports game and nothing personal because they get up there to show the world who's the strongest boxer that night and the result was amazing because as most fans expected it to happen. It's better luck next time for Garcia and he should probably fight some boxers that are not at Davis's level if he wanted to slowly recover and get back inside the ring with confidence after suffering from his first lost.

I'm curious now if Ryan Garcia will continue test his luck in super-light because it already seems that 130 pounds is not for him, because if he can't get through Davis then it is somehow assumable that he can't also defeat the current undisputed, Devin Haney and the guys under him. That was a good acid test for Ryan Garcia, he still deserve some credit because it's really not easy confronting the Tank Davis.

We can only praise him for his bravery. And while it seems there will be no rematch for him. It's too early to end his career so one option is just to do exactly like that. But now that it's seen how vulnerable he can be, he will be battered here and there.

He'd have to work out more because the door just opened. He will be tested in the heavier class, the real world awaits.

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