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With John Ryder, it will give Canelo a boost of confidence after it. This fight is not even hyped or probably because they don't want to ruin Tank Davis's moment.

It would be very head scratching to speculate that Canelo vs. Ryder fight can ruin Tank vs. King Ry's main event. No one wants to pay to see Canelo fight Ryder. There is no hype behind this and who is this John Ryder?

I reckon what the fans would like to see for Canelo is fight Benavidez! However, it appears Canelo is avoiding him hehehe. Canelo wants a rematch vs. Bivol but Bivol is avoiding Canelo because he wants a unification in light heavyweight.

Because this John Ryder was just selected by Eddie Hearn to be his tune-up fight and this is a must for Canelo's camp because he just came back from surgery because of the wrist injury he had. In my perspective, it's like hitting two birds with one stone because in this fight, Canelo will accomplish two things. 1st is erasing one of the boxers that are queued to fight him in the future as Ryder is an interim champion, 2nd is to see how will Canelo perform with his wrist that just got fixed.

And no, I may not be a fan of Canelo but I don't think that he's avoiding Benavidez. The kid is not eligible to fight him this much sooner because David doesn't have any interim belts and as Canelo said before, he should prove himself first that he truly deserves a chance to fight Canelo. Now if David can defeat Caleb with a bang, that is surely a ticket for David to fight Canelo.

And to give a good follow up, Benavidez might get the chance of fighting Canelo once he beats Caleb who are also
a contender before Canelo beats him and remove him from a no loss champ title.

It's interesting since Canelo just went from a surgery and now will be seeing again in action with a decent chance of winning against his challenger.

All will be witness when the schedule come up and both players are in front of the fans fighting.

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With John Ryder, it will give Canelo a boost of confidence after it. This fight is not even hyped or probably because they don't want to ruin Tank Davis's moment.

It would be very head scratching to speculate that Canelo vs. Ryder fight can ruin Tank vs. King Ry's main event. No one wants to pay to see Canelo fight Ryder. There is no hype behind this and who is this John Ryder?

Yes, Canelo is guaranteed another 8 figures here, so he doesn't care perhaps, hehehe. And most likely his target will be the Mexicans obviously in his native country. Probably in the US too, but for fans, Tank vs Ryan Garcia is an easy choice if I were to buy PPV between this two fights.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on March 21, 2023, 11:17:38 PM

I reckon what the fans would like to see for Canelo is fight Benavidez! However, it appears Canelo is avoiding him hehehe. Canelo wants a rematch vs. Bivol but Bivol is avoiding Canelo because he wants a unification in light heavyweight.

Maybe if David can win against Plant this weekend, his name will pop up. But definitely Canelo is looking for Bivol next after this, whether 175 or even 168 lbs as Canelo is willing to put his belt on the line. So lot's of fight in the calendar that can affect Canelo after he win against John Ryder.

Agreed on Canelo does not care hehe. I was only telling @cabron that Canelo vs. Ryder will certainly not ruin Tank vs. King Ry because much of the fans will be on Tank vs King Ry. Similar to what you said, if the both of them were on the same day, which ticket or pay per view would you buy?

I speculate Canelo will not consider Benavidez because of the risk that he might lose to him. It might be better to risk losing to Bivol in light heavyweight because he will not lose all of his super middleweight championships hehehe. He can lose them against Benavidez.

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Quote from: lionheart78 on March 23, 2023, 03:19:05 PM

Whether David Benavidez defeats Caleb with a bang or not, Benavidez is top in line to challenge Alvarez for The Ring Super middleweight championship fight. But of course, if Benavidez losses against Caleb then, Benavidez will be replaced by Caleb and the chance of Benavidez to fight Alvarez will be lessened.

In addition the WBC interim Super Middleweight Champion is Benavidez while The WBC World super middleweight Champion is Alvarez, if we apply your reason why John Rider has the right to fight, Alvarez i think that is the same with Benavidez for the WBC Super Middleweight world title belt.

Technically, that should be the case.

However, there are things that might influence a supposed fight. Canelo sticks to his quote before that he will never face a fellow Mexican although, at some point in his past interview, he added that if things really can't avoid, he will fight anybody. He might consider facing Benavidez in the future as the latter earned his spot to be eligible to face Canelo.

Moving forward, Benavidez is determined to beat Caleb Plant for the possible face-off with Canelo later on. And if Canelo will still insists on not fighting Benavidez because of his view about fighting fellow Mexicans, no choice but to drop his belt or there might be some boxing-related politics that will ruin the possibility of that match happening.

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He didn't give Canelo any opportunities to change the direction as he just continue what he knows is best to prevent Canelo to box him out and pull the KO solid combinations.

And that's where Canelo's career became a huge embarrassment in-front of the Russian boxer, Dmitry Bivol. The latter showed us who truly owns the division and what he is made of, moreover, he pulled an upset while proving that the peoples favorite as well as the bookies favorite is not a basis that he is an easy boxer in-front of Canelo. What Bivol did is almost unbelievable as it's the first time that Canelo looked like a human punching bag without almost no choice aside from receiving all those punches that Bivol is giving.

Bivol breaks the heart of most gamblers Roll Eyes

beating Canelo, who's very hype during that time and proving that he owns the territory and he's not willing to be stripped. That's something that added to his career. Now he's in the spotlight and he can choose money fight plus the title matchup.

Waiting if he will face again Canelo for a rematch or he will continue to chase more belts and challenge different champions both from his division or decide to jump up.

I'm just curious though, does that rematch clause still stands up until now? Most of the rematch clause got their own expiration date like 30 up to 100 days and that is why it's very crucial that the losing side will decide whether they will do it or not as this clause will not stand out forever. But since there's nothing like that in the headlines, maybe they didn't set up an expiration because the sports news as well are waiting about it. I'm already interested if it will be contested at 175 or 168 where Canelo is dominating but the risks are just too great, IMO.

They will approve it when they see Bivol's skills decline a bit. If for one time he wins by an SD, that might give that rematch another chance since Canelo still is a money maker in sport.

With John Ryder, it will give Canelo a boost of confidence after it. This fight is not even hyped or probably because they don't want to ruin Tank Davis's moment.

Canelo should be careful though because it is him who got defeated in their recent encounter and it is Bivol who literally defeated him for which made Canelo furious because he doesn't know what to do anymore but to receive Bivol's punches involuntarily. And if Canelo will choose to wait until Bivol's skills will deciline, it might go right back at him they are just in the same age. Which means that is risky for Canelo, it's much better for him to settle it this year if in-case he can defeat Ryder with a huge statement.

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Quote from: Japinat on March 23, 2023, 12:15:02 PM

And no, I may not be a fan of Canelo but I don't think that he's avoiding Benavidez. The kid is not eligible to fight him this much sooner because David doesn't have any interim belts and as Canelo said before, he should prove himself first that he truly deserves a chance to fight Canelo. Now if David can defeat Caleb with a bang, that is surely a ticket for David to fight Canelo.

Benavidez is the no. 1 in The Ring super middleweight champion ranking while John Rider as you stated is the WBO interim champion. I disagree that Benavidez is not eligible to fight Canelo, if The Ring implements a mandatory title defense then probably Benavidez is the most legit to fight Alvarez. Same way on John Rider being the WBO interim super middleweight champion. Whether David Benavidez defeats Caleb with a bang or not, Benavidez is top in line to challenge Alvarez for The Ring Super middleweight championship fight. But of course, if Benavidez losses against Caleb then, Benavidez will be replaced by Caleb and the chance of Benavidez to fight Alvarez will be lessened.

In addition the WBC interim Super Middleweight Champion is Benavidez while The WBC World super middleweight Champion is Alvarez, if we apply your reason why John Rider has the right to fight, Alvarez i think that is the same with Benavidez for the WBC Super Middleweight world title belt.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on March 21, 2023, 11:17:38 PM

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With John Ryder, it will give Canelo a boost of confidence after it. This fight is not even hyped or probably because they don't want to ruin Tank Davis's moment.

It would be very head scratching to speculate that Canelo vs. Ryder fight can ruin Tank vs. King Ry's main event. No one wants to pay to see Canelo fight Ryder. There is no hype behind this and who is this John Ryder?

I reckon what the fans would like to see for Canelo is fight Benavidez! However, it appears Canelo is avoiding him hehehe. Canelo wants a rematch vs. Bivol but Bivol is avoiding Canelo because he wants a unification in light heavyweight.

Because this John Ryder was just selected by Eddie Hearn to be his tune-up fight and this is a must for Canelo's camp because he just came back from surgery because of the wrist injury he had. In my perspective, it's like hitting two birds with one stone because in this fight, Canelo will accomplish two things. 1st is erasing one of the boxers that are queued to fight him in the future as Ryder is an interim champion, 2nd is to see how will Canelo perform with his wrist that just got fixed.

And no, I may not be a fan of Canelo but I don't think that he's avoiding Benavidez. The kid is not eligible to fight him this much sooner because David doesn't have any interim belts and as Canelo said before, he should prove himself first that he truly deserves a chance to fight Canelo. Now if David can defeat Caleb with a bang, that is surely a ticket for David to fight Canelo.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on March 21, 2023, 11:17:38 PM

Quote from: cabron on March 21, 2023, 01:51:21 PM

With John Ryder, it will give Canelo a boost of confidence after it. This fight is not even hyped or probably because they don't want to ruin Tank Davis's moment.

It would be very head scratching to speculate that Canelo vs. Ryder fight can ruin Tank vs. King Ry's main event. No one wants to pay to see Canelo fight Ryder. There is no hype behind this and who is this John Ryder?

I reckon what the fans would like to see for Canelo is fight Benavidez! However, it appears Canelo is avoiding him hehehe. Canelo wants a rematch vs. Bivol but Bivol is avoiding Canelo because he wants a unification in light heavyweight.

In all fairness to Ryder as per record he is the interim champ, so yeah, he deserves this fight although majority of us haven't heard his name before.

Ryder though is aware of that and even knows that he is just a test for Canelo coming back from any injuries.

That's what we wanted, Mexican vs Mexican, LOL, I don't know why Canelo doesn't want to give the Benavidez their chance to have this kind of fight. But Senior still goes to the media and says that Canelo doesn't want anything with his son that's why he is avoiding him right now. David though is up coming and maybe his time with Canelo will come.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on March 21, 2023, 11:17:38 PM

No one wants to pay to see Canelo fight Ryder. There is no hype behind this and who is this John Ryder?

Yes, that was something unexpected as most boxing fans didn't anticipate that match.

In fairness though to John Ryder, although not that popular to others, he is eligible to fight Canelo being an interim champion. Moving forward, since the fight is now officially will push, critics just have to wait for the result.

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I reckon what the fans would like to see for Canelo is fight Benavidez! However, it appears Canelo is avoiding him hehehe. Canelo wants a rematch vs. Bivol but Bivol is avoiding Canelo because he wants a unification in light heavyweight.

Better be safe coming back from the supposed wrist injury lol.

Others considered the fight as a tune-up match for Canelo before facing a big deal. Possible for an upset win? That was tough as Ryder does not just have to win clearly in every round but the venue itself is the home crowd of Canelo so Ryder is against the crowd and even against the judges lol.

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With John Ryder, it will give Canelo a boost of confidence after it. This fight is not even hyped or probably because they don't want to ruin Tank Davis's moment.

It would be very head scratching to speculate that Canelo vs. Ryder fight can ruin Tank vs. King Ry's main event. No one wants to pay to see Canelo fight Ryder. There is no hype behind this and who is this John Ryder?

Yes, Canelo is guaranteed another 8 figures here, so he doesn't care perhaps, hehehe. And most likely his target will be the Mexicans obviously in his native country. Probably in the US too, but for fans, Tank vs Ryan Garcia is an easy choice if I were to buy PPV between this two fights.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on March 21, 2023, 11:17:38 PM

I reckon what the fans would like to see for Canelo is fight Benavidez! However, it appears Canelo is avoiding him hehehe. Canelo wants a rematch vs. Bivol but Bivol is avoiding Canelo because he wants a unification in light heavyweight.

Maybe if David can win against Plant this weekend, his name will pop up. But definitely Canelo is looking for Bivol next after this, whether 175 or even 168 lbs as Canelo is willing to put his belt on the line. So lot's of fight in the calendar that can affect Canelo after he win against John Ryder.

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Quote from: cabron on March 21, 2023, 01:51:21 PM

With John Ryder, it will give Canelo a boost of confidence after it. This fight is not even hyped or probably because they don't want to ruin Tank Davis's moment.

It would be very head scratching to speculate that Canelo vs. Ryder fight can ruin Tank vs. King Ry's main event. No one wants to pay to see Canelo fight Ryder. There is no hype behind this and who is this John Ryder?

I reckon what the fans would like to see for Canelo is fight Benavidez! However, it appears Canelo is avoiding him hehehe. Canelo wants a rematch vs. Bivol but Bivol is avoiding Canelo because he wants a unification in light heavyweight.

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But they were all wrong and Bivol won although it's a bit controversy as I have said because the judges was trying to make the score closer or at least hoping to get a draw.

Judges will be on the hot seat if they will tried to manipulate the score closer when in fact that's not what it has seen during the fight. Canelo can't even throw a simple jab at Bivol and even if he is able to land one, too soft to even put Bivol in pain. The strategy of Bivol is really effective as not just he crashed Canelo's physical defense but also his mental state. Canelo is even shocked that why he's struggling against a non-popular boxer although a champion.

Maybe next year, if things go smoothly according to plan, Bivol might face Canelo in a rematch. But I want to see first Bivol in a unification match against Beterbiev, as it was also a fight that was anticipated for a long by most boxing fans, before doing a rematch with Canelo.

And the two judges of that particular fight indeed scored much closer than what is expected, hence why the fight has been controversial even if Bivol won via unanimous decision because it is somehow clear that they are trying to help Canelo all those rounds where he cannot really keep up with Bivol's maneuvers. I guess we shouldn't get shocked about these things anymore as the boxers these days are already paying the governing bodies to approve a fight, what more if it's about the scores.

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Maybe next year, if things go smoothly according to plan, Bivol might face Canelo in a rematch.

Well, that rematch might happen this year. Next year is quite long enough to wait as we're still approaching the mid of 2023.

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He didn't give Canelo any opportunities to change the direction as he just continue what he knows is best to prevent Canelo to box him out and pull the KO solid combinations.

And that's where Canelo's career became a huge embarrassment in-front of the Russian boxer, Dmitry Bivol. The latter showed us who truly owns the division and what he is made of, moreover, he pulled an upset while proving that the peoples favorite as well as the bookies favorite is not a basis that he is an easy boxer in-front of Canelo. What Bivol did is almost unbelievable as it's the first time that Canelo looked like a human punching bag without almost no choice aside from receiving all those punches that Bivol is giving.

Bivol breaks the heart of most gamblers Roll Eyes

beating Canelo, who's very hype during that time and proving that he owns the territory and he's not willing to be stripped. That's something that added to his career. Now he's in the spotlight and he can choose money fight plus the title matchup.

Waiting if he will face again Canelo for a rematch or he will continue to chase more belts and challenge different champions both from his division or decide to jump up.

I'm just curious though, does that rematch clause still stands up until now? Most of the rematch clause got their own expiration date like 30 up to 100 days and that is why it's very crucial that the losing side will decide whether they will do it or not as this clause will not stand out forever. But since there's nothing like that in the headlines, maybe they didn't set up an expiration because the sports news as well are waiting about it. I'm already interested if it will be contested at 175 or 168 where Canelo is dominating but the risks are just too great, IMO.

They will approve it when they see Bivol's skills decline a bit. If for one time he wins by an SD, that might give that rematch another chance since Canelo still is a money maker in sport.

With John Ryder, it will give Canelo a boost of confidence after it. This fight is not even hyped or probably because they don't want to ruin Tank Davis's moment.

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He didn't give Canelo any opportunities to change the direction as he just continue what he knows is best to prevent Canelo to box him out and pull the KO solid combinations.

And that's where Canelo's career became a huge embarrassment in-front of the Russian boxer, Dmitry Bivol. The latter showed us who truly owns the division and what he is made of, moreover, he pulled an upset while proving that the peoples favorite as well as the bookies favorite is not a basis that he is an easy boxer in-front of Canelo. What Bivol did is almost unbelievable as it's the first time that Canelo looked like a human punching bag without almost no choice aside from receiving all those punches that Bivol is giving.

Bivol breaks the heart of most gamblers Roll Eyes

beating Canelo, who's very hype during that time and proving that he owns the territory and he's not willing to be stripped. That's something that added to his career. Now he's in the spotlight and he can choose money fight plus the title matchup.

Waiting if he will face again Canelo for a rematch or he will continue to chase more belts and challenge different champions both from his division or decide to jump up.

I'm just curious though, does that rematch clause still stands up until now? Most of the rematch clause got their own expiration date like 30 up to 100 days and that is why it's very crucial that the losing side will decide whether they will do it or not as this clause will not stand out forever. But since there's nothing like that in the headlines, maybe they didn't set up an expiration because the sports news as well are waiting about it. I'm already interested if it will be contested at 175 or 168 where Canelo is dominating but the risks are just too great, IMO.

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Quote from: Baofeng on March 20, 2023, 04:24:16 PM

But they were all wrong and Bivol won although it's a bit controversy as I have said because the judges was trying to make the score closer or at least hoping to get a draw.

Judges will be on the hot seat if they will tried to manipulate the score closer when in fact that's not what it has seen during the fight. Canelo can't even throw a simple jab at Bivol and even if he is able to land one, too soft to even put Bivol in pain. The strategy of Bivol is really effective as not just he crashed Canelo's physical defense but also his mental state. Canelo is even shocked that why he's struggling against a non-popular boxer although a champion.

Maybe next year, if things go smoothly according to plan, Bivol might face Canelo in a rematch. But I want to see first Bivol in a unification match against Beterbiev, as it was also a fight that was anticipated for a long by most boxing fans, before doing a rematch with Canelo.

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He didn't give Canelo any opportunities to change the direction as he just continue what he knows is best to prevent Canelo to box him out and pull the KO solid combinations.

And that's where Canelo's career became a huge embarrassment in-front of the Russian boxer, Dmitry Bivol. The latter showed us who truly owns the division and what he is made of, moreover, he pulled an upset while proving that the peoples favorite as well as the bookies favorite is not a basis that he is an easy boxer in-front of Canelo. What Bivol did is almost unbelievable as it's the first time that Canelo looked like a human punching bag without almost no choice aside from receiving all those punches that Bivol is giving.

Bivol breaks the heart of most gamblers Roll Eyes

beating Canelo, who's very hype during that time and proving that he owns the territory and he's not willing to be stripped. That's something that added to his career. Now he's in the spotlight and he can choose money fight plus the title matchup.

Waiting if he will face again Canelo for a rematch or he will continue to chase more belts and challenge different champions both from his division or decide to jump up.

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Maybe the fact that Bivol defeated a superstar in Canelo made him increase his points.

Not just that, Bivol just turned Canelo into a punching bag that no one might expect knowing Canelo is at the peak of his career during that time.

According to some stats, 97% of bets on that match are all in favor of Canelo.

Just imagine how underdog Bivol is prior to that fight. -440 was given to him which is equivalent to 18% winning the fight. Cheesy

Yeah, that time we never knew how that fight will turn out, but maybe majority never heard of Bivol, how good and fast he is as LHW and Canelo is really riding on a winning streak and everyone he faces at 168 lbs was destroyed by him. And everyone see him as invincible even if he is going up in weight. His camp are even talking of going as high as CW, and at LHW, he had won a belt already so we think that he will just steamroll the champion in Bivol. And another important thing is that he or someone in his camp may have the judges under their pocket, to just make sure that he is going to win. But they were all wrong and Bivol won although it's a bit controversy as I have said because the judges was trying to make the score closer or at least hoping to get a draw.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on March 20, 2023, 04:32:49 AM

The only thing that stopped me from betting more is that I knew the judges will steal as many rounds as possible in favor of the biggest superstar in the sport.

Since most rounds are obviously won by Bivol, it would be hard for these judges to somehow intentionally manipulate the scorecards in favor of Canelo, if there's really an attempt to do it. There's even an analysis prior to that fight, that if Bivol wants to win, he should go with either Knockout or clearly win every round as there are saying that Bivol was not against Canelo but on everything.

Quote from: LogitechMouse on March 20, 2023, 09:59:03 AM

On that match, Bivol made Canelo like a punching bag indeed. He's very fast for Canelo, his reach are to long for him and he's a good counter puncher as well. I expect that match to be at least not a one-sided match, but... it is what it is. Those who risked, and put their bet on Bivol on that match are the ones who are the winners aside from the 2 boxers of course.

Actually, Bivol is not that fast for Canelo. It's just that he's really good at finding an open spot to land a perfect blow. Aside from that, Bivol successfully made Canelo very disappointed and frustrated and that led Canelo not to be focused on the fight. Bivol destroyed his rhythm. If only Canelo stays his cool and calm state of mind, might be the close fight we expect the entire match.

Anyways, we might see a different Canelo now if ever a rematch with Bivol will happen. On the other hand, though, a different Bivol can be expected too.

Let's tune in first on their respective upcoming matches; Canelo vs. Ryder in May ; Bivol vs. ? in June.

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Quote from: Fredomago on March 20, 2023, 12:13:31 PM

He didn't give Canelo any opportunities to change the direction as he just continue what he knows is best to prevent Canelo to box him out and pull the KO solid combinations.

And that's where Canelo's career became a huge embarrassment in-front of the Russian boxer, Dmitry Bivol. The latter showed us who truly owns the division and what he is made of, moreover, he pulled an upset while proving that the peoples favorite as well as the bookies favorite is not a basis that he is an easy boxer in-front of Canelo. What Bivol did is almost unbelievable as it's the first time that Canelo looked like a human punching bag without almost no choice aside from receiving all those punches that Bivol is giving.

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Maybe the fact that Bivol defeated a superstar in Canelo made him increase his points.

Not just that, Bivol just turned Canelo into a punching bag that no one might expect knowing Canelo is at the peak of his career during that time.

According to some stats, 97% of bets on that match are all in favor of Canelo.

Just imagine how underdog Bivol is prior to that fight. -440 was given to him which is equivalent to 18% winning the fight. Cheesy

I cannot really blame them if they favored Canelo Alvarez that time and that includes me. I mean, why not? Canelo has surely proved numerous fights already that he can dominate his opponent even if that boxer is much more taller than him, he can always make a way considering how vast Canelo's IQ inside the ring and that's why people are betting on his side without a single doubt as that was his 2nd time fighting at 175. But unfortunately, the defending champion proved us all wrong and the he is not that kind of boxer who we should underestimate.

Yup! the anticipate outcome didn't happen as upset for most bettors during the fight between Bivol and Alvarez, I can include myself with those who support Canelo, as I base my decision with how Canelo fought and how he dominated his opponents, but in Bivol's time, the young champ made the right preparation with all those counters he change the tempo of the fight and bring everything on his favor.

He didn't give Canelo any opportunities to change the direction as he just continue what he knows is best to prevent Canelo to box him out and pull the KO solid combinations.

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Quote from: harizen on March 19, 2023, 06:40:25 PM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on March 18, 2023, 11:36:12 PM

Maybe the fact that Bivol defeated a superstar in Canelo made him increase his points.

Not just that, Bivol just turned Canelo into a punching bag that no one might expect knowing Canelo is at the peak of his career during that time.

According to some stats, 97% of bets on that match are all in favor of Canelo.

Just imagine how underdog Bivol is prior to that fight. -440 was given to him which is equivalent to 18% winning the fight. Cheesy

Well, nobody expected the outcome of that match. Like most of us, many are expecting Canelo to win on that match, but it seems like we underestimated Bivol so much... or we just overestimated Canelo even though he went up one division after unifying the middleweight division.

On that match, Bivol made Canelo like a punching bag indeed. He's very fast for Canelo, his reach are to long for him and he's a good counter puncher as well. I expect that match to be at least not a one-sided match, but... it is what it is. Those who risked, and put their bet on Bivol on that match are the ones who are the winners aside from the 2 boxers of course.

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