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Ramirez vs Dogboe

Competitive first six rounds thus far but in my scorecard, Ramirez leads as he has landed the more telling blows.

Below is the link of the fight, don't know how long it will stay.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=search&v=1448173802384774

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Total domination by Ramirez here in the second half, Dogboe was too short for him while Ramirez' footwork was excellent. Though the winner is not announced yet but i think we have the new WBO Featherweight title holder here and his name is Robeisy Ramirez.
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^^There is also one fight that we haven't talking and it's Anthony Joshua vs Jermaine Franklin. Here's the official weigh-in,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0quLYVBNMs

And the fight is ongoing right now. Joshua is boxing good in the first 3 rounds and I would say that I give him 2 rounds out of 3.

Franklin did a better job in round 3 in avoiding Joshua's power punch and it seems his chin is holding on right now.

But let's see, too early yet and maybe the phase will pick up in the later rounds.

Damn, i forgot to bet on this fight as I thought I could get up early. Joshua to win via decision @4.75 was on my mind and Joshua did win the fight by unanimous decision.

I have seen the tail end of the fight, Joshua imposing his jabs on the shorter Franklin which was the way to go. Though lot of clinching and hugging, it was still a good fight for Joshua but I don't think the latter could win against Fury or Usyk if he fight like that.
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Joshua is not really happy about his victory. "No knockout, so no good." he said.
Here is the full post-fight interview shared by BBC.
https://twitter.com/5liveSport/status/1642342617500246016?s=20
When asked the reason why there was not a knockout that happened. Here is his answer.

I believe it is Franklin's chin. He is durable enough to withstand all of Joshua's punches. Plus, he may have thrown lesser punches so he should take a look at that.
It's an intense fight and even the cornermen of Franklin get frustrated that he pushes off Joshua.  Grin They should not do that. Let the ref handle it to avoid penalties.
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Many fans may not be interested in seeing a rematch between Canelo and Bivol due to the one-sided beatdown in their previous fight where Canelo was exposed.

I think that's the other way around. Many fans want to see that rematch because they are expecting a different version of Canelo here. Being destroyed by Bivol on their first meetup, Canelo fans want to see if a sweet revenge and comeback will now be able to execute by Canelo.

It just also makes sense that some fans want a rematch between Canelo and Bivol as that was an unfinished task by Canelo that he needed to pass. Not unless Bivol is not interested in any talks about the rematch, then no choice for some fans but to move on.

By some, you mean the minority? Because I really don't see that there's a lot of fans expect from Canelo's die-hard fans who are also wishing to see the rematch with the hopes that Canelo can somehow give a difference. I mean, that's just like wishing to see a Caleb-Canelo rematch, it just doesn't make sense anymore because it was a landslide victory.

Also, I think the rematch will probably be interesting enough and will get the people's attention if the rematch will be contested at 168 and not on 175 where Bivol is more dominant just like what we saw in their first fight. If ever this rematch will happen at 175, Canelo might've wanted to add another embarrassment to his career for the sake of money-fight.

Canelo is currently at the peak of his career. Chances of upsetting Bivol in the rematch is always possible. Canelo won't reach his current status if he doesn't know how to adjust. Bivol is on another level that's why it was advised that Canelo shouldn't pursue for a rematch right away but instead take some time and that's what happened.

Even Canelo will lose on the rematch, it's impossible that the same scene we saw on their first meeting will be shown by Canelo. Expect a changes of course regardless if the rematch will happened at 168 or 175.

And about the money and revenue? There's no problem with that as both boxer's name is already enough to attract more sales.
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^^There is also one fight that we haven't talking and it's Anthony Joshua vs Jermaine Franklin. Here's the official weigh-in,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0quLYVBNMs

And the fight is ongoing right now. Joshua is boxing good in the first 3 rounds and I would say that I give him 2 rounds out of 3.

Franklin did a better job in round 3 in avoiding Joshua's power punch and it seems his chin is holding on right now.

But let's see, too early yet and maybe the phase will pick up in the later rounds.

Damn, i forgot to bet on this fight as I thought I could get up early. Joshua to win via decision @4.75 was on my mind and Joshua did win the fight by unanimous decision.

I have seen the tail end of the fight, Joshua imposing his jabs on the shorter Franklin which was the way to go. Though lot of clinching and hugging, it was still a good fight for Joshua but I don't think the latter could win against Fury or Usyk if he fight like that.
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Many fans may not be interested in seeing a rematch between Canelo and Bivol due to the one-sided beatdown in their previous fight where Canelo was exposed.

I think that's the other way around. Many fans want to see that rematch because they are expecting a different version of Canelo here. Being destroyed by Bivol on their first meetup, Canelo fans want to see if a sweet revenge and comeback will now be able to execute by Canelo.

It just also makes sense that some fans want a rematch between Canelo and Bivol as that was an unfinished task by Canelo that he needed to pass. Not unless Bivol is not interested in any talks about the rematch, then no choice for some fans but to move on.

By some, you mean the minority? Because I really don't see that there's a lot of fans expect from Canelo's die-hard fans who are also wishing to see the rematch with the hopes that Canelo can somehow give a difference. I mean, that's just like wishing to see a Caleb-Canelo rematch, it just doesn't make sense anymore because it was a landslide victory.

Also, I think the rematch will probably be interesting enough and will get the people's attention if the rematch will be contested at 168 and not on 175 where Bivol is more dominant just like what we saw in their first fight. If ever this rematch will happen at 175, Canelo might've wanted to add another embarrassment to his career for the sake of money-fight.

I think fans will be interested to see the rematch regardless of the weight category.  As what goinmerry stated, Canelo fans wanted to see their boxing idol to redeem himself so they wanted to watch a Canelo - Bivol rematch.  In the same manner, Canelo also wanted to redeem himself so I think he don't mind the weight division he will have his rematch with Bivol.

^^There is also one fight that we haven't talking and it's Anthony Joshua vs Jermaine Franklin. Here's the official weigh-in,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0quLYVBNMs

And the fight is ongoing right now. Joshua is boxing good in the first 3 rounds and I would say that I give him 2 rounds out of 3.

Franklin did a better job in round 3 in avoiding Joshua's power punch and it seems his chin is holding on right now.

But let's see, too early yet and maybe the phase will pick up in the later rounds.

From the sound of your post, It looks like Joshua is dominating the fight,I think there will be a knockdown in the following round if Franklin got careless and opened him self for Joshua's heavy punches.
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^^There is also one fight that we haven't talking and it's Anthony Joshua vs Jermaine Franklin. Here's the official weigh-in,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0quLYVBNMs

And the fight is ongoing right now. Joshua is boxing good in the first 3 rounds and I would say that I give him 2 rounds out of 3.

Franklin did a better job in round 3 in avoiding Joshua's power punch and it seems his chin is holding on right now.

But let's see, too early yet and maybe the phase will pick up in the later rounds.

Edit: Joshua won by UD, The scores were 118-111, 117-111 and 117-111.

I have him 118-111 in my unofficial scorecard.

@bisdak40 - it's decision win and that odds, ohh, hehehe.
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Many fans may not be interested in seeing a rematch between Canelo and Bivol due to the one-sided beatdown in their previous fight where Canelo was exposed.

I think that's the other way around. Many fans want to see that rematch because they are expecting a different version of Canelo here. Being destroyed by Bivol on their first meetup, Canelo fans want to see if a sweet revenge and comeback will now be able to execute by Canelo.

It just also makes sense that some fans want a rematch between Canelo and Bivol as that was an unfinished task by Canelo that he needed to pass. Not unless Bivol is not interested in any talks about the rematch, then no choice for some fans but to move on.

By some, you mean the minority? Because I really don't see that there's a lot of fans expect from Canelo's die-hard fans who are also wishing to see the rematch with the hopes that Canelo can somehow give a difference. I mean, that's just like wishing to see a Caleb-Canelo rematch, it just doesn't make sense anymore because it was a landslide victory.

Also, I think the rematch will probably be interesting enough and will get the people's attention if the rematch will be contested at 168 and not on 175 where Bivol is more dominant just like what we saw in their first fight. If ever this rematch will happen at 175, Canelo might've wanted to add another embarrassment to his career for the sake of money-fight.
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Here are my full picks for the Joshua vs. Franklin event pretty it will be a great fight and Ricky Hatton's son will be here Campbell Hatton, it will be bad news for bettors to bet on a regular win so I will take a Parley on the favorites,

MAIN EVENT

Anthony Joshua (1.09) VS Jermaine Franklin (8.00)

CO-MAIN EVENT

Fabio Wardley (1.11) VS Michael Polite Coffie (7.20)

MAIN CARD

Austin Williams (1.06 ) VS River Wilson-Bent (11.00)
Campbell Hatton (1.07) VS Louis Fielding (9.80)
Galal Yafai (1.08) VS Moises Calleros (8.40)

PRELIMINARY CARD

John Hedges (1.05) VS Daniel Bocianski (12.00)
Jordan Flynn (1.09) VS Kane Baker (8.20)
Ziyad Al Maayouf VS Georgi Velichkov
Peter Kadiru VS Alen Lauriolle
Juergen Uldedaj VS Benoit Huber

All information was from TAPOLOGY
 
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Stats:
Robeisy Ramirez - 11 wins (7 KOs), 1 loss, 0 draw
Isaac Dogboe - 24 wins (15 KOs), 2 losses 1 (KO), 0 draw
Odds:
Ramirez @1.13 by KO @2.27
Dogboe @5.60 by KO @9.00

Glad that someone has brought up to this forum about this fight. Though both Ramirez and Dogboe are not so popular but Ramirez is the one worth watching as he was the one who beat Shakur Stevenson in the Olympic Finals so this guy must be good and he might had a chance to face Shakur in the future.

ML odds for him to win the fight is not juicy so i'm betting that he will KO Dogboe @2.25 odds.

Below is the youtube video of the weigh-in, both boxers looked so trimmed and ready for the fight tomorrow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dntZVIHykU&ab_channel=TopRankBoxing

Yes, I think Dogboe is a good fighter, but he is not on the level of Robeisy. He is one of the rising start and I doubt the will get his chance against Shakur in the pro, unfortunately, Shakur has move up at 135 lbs.

However, I'm not going to bet on this fight although it might be very interesting to see.
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Stats:
Robeisy Ramirez - 11 wins (7 KOs), 1 loss, 0 draw
Isaac Dogboe - 24 wins (15 KOs), 2 losses 1 (KO), 0 draw
Odds:
Ramirez @1.13 by KO @2.27
Dogboe @5.60 by KO @9.00

Glad that someone has brought up to this forum about this fight. Though both Ramirez and Dogboe are not so popular but Ramirez is the one worth watching as he was the one who beat Shakur Stevenson in the Olympic Finals so this guy must be good and he might had a chance to face Shakur in the future.

ML odds for him to win the fight is not juicy so i'm betting that he will KO Dogboe @2.25 odds.

Below is the youtube video of the weigh-in, both boxers looked so trimmed and ready for the fight tomorrow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dntZVIHykU&ab_channel=TopRankBoxing
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Many fans may not be interested in seeing a rematch between Canelo and Bivol due to the one-sided beatdown in their previous fight where Canelo was exposed.

I think that's the other way around. Many fans want to see that rematch because they are expecting a different version of Canelo here. Being destroyed by Bivol on their first meetup, Canelo fans want to see if a sweet revenge and comeback will now be able to execute by Canelo.

It just also makes sense that some fans want a rematch between Canelo and Bivol as that was an unfinished task by Canelo that he needed to pass. Not unless Bivol is not interested in any talks about the rematch, then no choice for some fans but to move on.
I believe the same as well, at the time there were many fans that thought that Canelo was going to get an easy win against Bivol and even dominate the light heavyweight division, and despite the score cards of the judges, which were ridiculous, everyone else saw Bivol winning that fight with ease, so we want to see if Canelo is willing to fight Bivol once again and if he can do better against a boxer that dominated him so clearly.
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Many fans may not be interested in seeing a rematch between Canelo and Bivol due to the one-sided beatdown in their previous fight where Canelo was exposed.

I think that's the other way around. Many fans want to see that rematch because they are expecting a different version of Canelo here. Being destroyed by Bivol on their first meetup, Canelo fans want to see if a sweet revenge and comeback will now be able to execute by Canelo.

It just also makes sense that some fans want a rematch between Canelo and Bivol as that was an unfinished task by Canelo that he needed to pass. Not unless Bivol is not interested in any talks about the rematch, then no choice for some fans but to move on.
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There's a world title on the line in America this Saturday.
There is live boxing in Tusla when Robeisy Ramirez takes on Isaac Dogboe for the vacant WBO featherweight title on Saturday.

Date: Saturday, April 1
Start time:  8:00 p.m. ET / 1 a.m. BST
Main event ringwalks (approx): 11:00 p.m. ET / 4:00 a.m. BST
https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/robeisy-ramirez-vs-isaac-dogboe-date-start-time-tv-channel-and-live-stream/cw5xa4rtfext14tvfqeyq317b

Stats:
Robeisy Ramirez - 11 wins (7 KOs), 1 loss, 0 draw
Isaac Dogboe - 24 wins (15 KOs), 2 losses 1 (KO), 0 draw
Odds:
Ramirez @1.13 by KO @2.27
Dogboe @5.60 by KO @9.00

The co-main event will be another featherweight fight.
Enrique Vivas versus Joet Gonzalez.
Joet lost to Dogboe who is now fighting for the vacant WBO title, this is like a fight that could get him back on top of the ranks and maybe get his revenge against Dogboe if ever he wins the title in the main event fight.
He is the heavy favorite here @1.18 versus @4.60 for Vivas.
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^^ Not really sure what do you mean by not interested, Canelo is still the cash cow of boxing, so whoever he fight next, will definitely make a lot of money. And maybe Bivol can double on what he get during their first fight as he already beat Canelo at 175. Now there is a scenario that might interested Bivol, that is to fight Canelo as his super middle weight class, which means that Canelo will have to put all his belt on the line. So the stakes are high and Bivol might not resists it because it's going to be a win-win situation for him. And if by chance he beat Canelo twice, then he will be a double belt champion at 168 lbs and his 175 lbs. And Canelo wanted to get his revenge against Bivol, we totally didn't expect that he will lost to Bivol.

Canelo is so popular that even if he cherry-picked his opponents he can still take home 8 digits after PPV counts. Bivol should earn around $10 million in case of a rematch. While Benavidez is a monster, Bivol is still a class above and is still the more difficult fighter to beat. Maybe Canelo can earn more against Benavidez but hats off to him if he pursues that rematch. Meanwhile, Bivol did mention earlier his willingness to drop to 168, so I am confident that a rematch happens because he accepts either at 175 or at 168. I see Bivol as a small guy at 175 though so he should be able to make 168 without much difficulty. Those undisputed belts at 168 are very tempting, to be honest. Canelo took years to complete the 4 belts and Bivol has the chance to win it all in a single fight.

Canelo is in a good position now it's either he gets a rematch with Bivol at 175 or 168 or gotta go against Benavidez.
Everyone thought a rematch against Bivol would not gonna happen after Canelo got schooled real bad against Bivol. I think it would be wiser for him to fight Bivol at 168 since I think he's more comfortable in that weight division. However, it's still up to Bivol if he accepts the challenge. I mean like you've said, Bivol might not even get affected if he's cutting weights down to 168. It might even make him faster and agile.
I feel like if Canelo fights at 168 he will have a better chance at redemption.

Many fans may not be interested in seeing a rematch between Canelo and Bivol due to the one-sided beatdown in their previous fight where Canelo was exposed. Given Benavidez's impressive win in his last fight, it might be more worthwhile to prioritize a matchup between him and Canelo. This could generate more hype and revenue, benefiting both camps.

If Canelo beats Benavidez, he could consider fighting Bivol afterwards.
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^^ Not really sure what do you mean by not interested, Canelo is still the cash cow of boxing, so whoever he fight next, will definitely make a lot of money. And maybe Bivol can double on what he get during their first fight as he already beat Canelo at 175. Now there is a scenario that might interested Bivol, that is to fight Canelo as his super middle weight class, which means that Canelo will have to put all his belt on the line. So the stakes are high and Bivol might not resists it because it's going to be a win-win situation for him. And if by chance he beat Canelo twice, then he will be a double belt champion at 168 lbs and his 175 lbs. And Canelo wanted to get his revenge against Bivol, we totally didn't expect that he will lost to Bivol.

Canelo is so popular that even if he cherry-picked his opponents he can still take home 8 digits after PPV counts. Bivol should earn around $10 million in case of a rematch. While Benavidez is a monster, Bivol is still a class above and is still the more difficult fighter to beat. Maybe Canelo can earn more against Benavidez but hats off to him if he pursues that rematch. Meanwhile, Bivol did mention earlier his willingness to drop to 168, so I am confident that a rematch happens because he accepts either at 175 or at 168. I see Bivol as a small guy at 175 though so he should be able to make 168 without much difficulty. Those undisputed belts at 168 are very tempting, to be honest. Canelo took years to complete the 4 belts and Bivol has the chance to win it all in a single fight.

Canelo is in a good position now it's either he gets a rematch with Bivol at 175 or 168 or gotta go against Benavidez.
Everyone thought a rematch against Bivol would not gonna happen after Canelo got schooled real bad against Bivol. I think it would be wiser for him to fight Bivol at 168 since I think he's more comfortable in that weight division. However, it's still up to Bivol if he accepts the challenge. I mean like you've said, Bivol might not even get affected if he's cutting weights down to 168. It might even make him faster and agile.
I feel like if Canelo fights at 168 he will have a better chance at redemption.
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When the cash cow of boxing returns, everyone talks about him. I figure out that the comeback match of Saul Alvarez is in his local spot in Guadalajara, Mexico. It just implies that he is surrendering a gigantic amount of cash to get this going in Mexico than the USA. In anticipation of the return of its native hero, Guadalajara has prepared a stadium. Perhaps when he was a kid was the last time Saul Alvarez fought in Mexico. Now, he is the boxing cash cow and is well known all over the world. He is idolized by many because of how hard he worked to improve his skills.
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There is another article that surface recently about Canelo and what he think of David Benavidez,

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“I don't say no to any fight. But I have goals this year. Then, we'll see,” said Alvarez.

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-open-fighting-benavidez-david-good-performance-vs-plant--173493

So now maybe he is open for a fight with Benavidez in the future. But most likely his goal is for a rematch with Bivol and if he wins it, he might go with his mandatory now or at least the interim belt holder in Benavidez. Maybe he is now impressed with David's performance against Plant which Canelo beat already. Or what another highly anticipated fight for us fans next to settle the score with the Benavidez. So we will see, I mean David just won his fight against Caleb and should be resting by now and most likely going to watch the fight of Canelo vs Ryder as well.
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Regarding about the Canelo and Benavidez issue, here's what Canelo said recently:

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Canelo Alvarez reacted in annoyance & jealousy today about fans & media calling David Benavidez a ‘Monster,’ saying that it’s different when fighters like him and Gennadiy Golovkin are in the ring with him. Canelo said it’s one thing for Benavidez (27-0, 23 KOs) to look good against other fighters, but it’s not the same if he were in with him.

Interestingly, when Canelo (58-2-2, 39 KOs) was asked if he was excited about the “challenge” of fighting Benavidez, he said, “I have a different goal with my career.” In other words, Canelo WON’T be fighting Benavidez.
Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/03/canelo-reacts-to-benavidez-being-called-monster-its-not-the-same-to-have-me/

From what I've read in the stated article, it's clear enough to see that Canelo Alvarez is not really interested to fight Benavidez because from his words alone, he said that he already have fights queued up until next year including his rematch against Dmitry Bivol that is forecasted by his team to happen somewhere in September.

I'd say that these words is not really wise because even if he's not interested as Benavidez got no belts, he's been portraited as the one who is ducking away from latter. Even Hearn wanted to make that fight because it's probably much easier and less risky compared to Bivol as there might be no difference if the rematch will materialize.
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^^ Not really sure what do you mean by not interested, Canelo is still the cash cow of boxing, so whoever he fight next, will definitely make a lot of money. And maybe Bivol can double on what he get during their first fight as he already beat Canelo at 175. Now there is a scenario that might interested Bivol, that is to fight Canelo as his super middle weight class, which means that Canelo will have to put all his belt on the line. So the stakes are high and Bivol might not resists it because it's going to be a win-win situation for him. And if by chance he beat Canelo twice, then he will be a double belt champion at 168 lbs and his 175 lbs. And Canelo wanted to get his revenge against Bivol, we totally didn't expect that he will lost to Bivol.

Canelo is so popular that even if he cherry-picked his opponents he can still take home 8 digits after PPV counts. Bivol should earn around $10 million in case of a rematch. While Benavidez is a monster, Bivol is still a class above and is still the more difficult fighter to beat. Maybe Canelo can earn more against Benavidez but hats off to him if he pursues that rematch. Meanwhile, Bivol did mention earlier his willingness to drop to 168, so I am confident that a rematch happens because he accepts either at 175 or at 168. I see Bivol as a small guy at 175 though so he should be able to make 168 without much difficulty. Those undisputed belts at 168 are very tempting, to be honest. Canelo took years to complete the 4 belts and Bivol has the chance to win it all in a single fight.
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We will see his fate after winning the fight against Plant, he got that interim ticket to challenge Canelo we just need to wait for Alvarez response after the fight against Ryder,  and I can agree to your sentiment regarding to Benavidez, he wants the belt and he will do his best to earn it, whoever the title holder as long as they will accept his challenge then it will take place.

Canelo has no choice but to accept the supposed deal with Benavidez regardless of anything.

However, even with Benavidez winning against Plant recently, it seems that Benavidez didn't really call the attention of Canelo. There are even speculations that Canelo vs Bivol II is much more anticipated by most boxing fans as they think Benavidez can easily be handled by Canelo and the former is just full of talks.

Regardless though, Canelo's camp maybe has to consider granting Benavidez interest for a long of facing Canelo and just settles everything in the actual fight.

Benavidez and his father try their best to call attention, but even in interviews, Canelo just dismisses Benavidez, not that he is not good, but for Canelo he will have to take some boxers and defeat him before he sort of be in the same breath as Canelo before they face.

And Canelo is looking for Bivol either way. If Bivol won't fight his mandatory and wait for Canelo after this fight, then maybe at the end of the year and Canelo hands look good against Ryder, they can fight either Super Middleweight or Light Heavy Weight.
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