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Quote from: Jawhead999 on February 13, 2023, 09:11:27 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on February 13, 2023, 04:03:18 AM

Right, and for those who haven't seen the fight, here are the highlights of the fight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voIiJWRqSJk

As I have said, you can see how slick the style of Foster is, typical African-American stance made famous by Floyd, the Philly shell. And it's hard to crack it, only few boxers have known how to fight against that stance.

Yes, and again, with this lost by Vargas, it's more intriguing the Magsayo vs Figueroa outcome. And both have seen what happen to Vargas and they know that he will go down to their weight class to insert him name. Nevertheless he is the current champion so both will have no choice but to fight Vargas.

Foster has a same reach like Vargas, so Vargas can't use his reach advantage like when he was fight Magsayo. Magsayo is very hard to reach Vargas since his hand is shorter, Vargas can easily duck it. I think Vargas is to late to change his stance, he always got punched in his right face, until sixth or seventh round he's realized about that.

If Magsayo will have a rematch with Vargas, it's better for him to being more aggressive and quick rather than looking to knocking out Vargas.

I think it's really a nightmare match-up for Magsayo if he will rematch Vargas (assuming that he will win against Figueroa). Magsayo is not a technical fighter, and Vargas weakness is a fighter that is slick like Foster.

So he will have a lot of adjustments to make in order to win against Vargas.

Both could be motivated though, Vargas trying to bounce back from a lot, and then Magsayo avenging his defeat and the belt.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on February 13, 2023, 09:11:27 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on February 13, 2023, 04:03:18 AM

Right, and for those who haven't seen the fight, here are the highlights of the fight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voIiJWRqSJk

As I have said, you can see how slick the style of Foster is, typical African-American stance made famous by Floyd, the Philly shell. And it's hard to crack it, only few boxers have known how to fight against that stance.

Yes, and again, with this lost by Vargas, it's more intriguing the Magsayo vs Figueroa outcome. And both have seen what happen to Vargas and they know that he will go down to their weight class to insert him name. Nevertheless he is the current champion so both will have no choice but to fight Vargas.

Foster has a same reach like Vargas, so Vargas can't use his reach advantage like when he was fight Magsayo. Magsayo is very hard to reach Vargas since his hand is shorter, Vargas can easily duck it. I think Vargas is to late to change his stance, he always got punched in his right face, until sixth or seventh round he's realized about that.

If Magsayo will have a rematch with Vargas, it's better for him to being more aggressive and quick rather than looking to knocking out Vargas.

So Vargas will most likely defend his belt to the Magsayo-Figueroa winner. A few hours ago I rewatched some of Figueroa's fights. The Fulton-Figueroa war was so close and those 2 judges that had it 116-112 need their eyes checked. This time I had it 6-6 or 114-114 a draw. Punch stats was one-sided and favored Figueroa. I really hope Magsayo improved a lot, especially on his stamina and inside fighting which I doubt to happen in just a few months of training. Figueroa is not good defensively but his chin is so tough at least in his old division. So it is either Magsayo will catch him early or Figueroa can take Magsayo's best punches and starts to make the fight a brawl and wins a stoppage in the 2nd half of the fight.

I still favor Vargas winning over Magsayo or Figueroa though. I think his first defeat will make him more of a technical fighter and Figueroa and Magsayo aren't that good at their defense.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 13, 2023, 04:03:18 AM

Right, and for those who haven't seen the fight, here are the highlights of the fight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voIiJWRqSJk

As I have said, you can see how slick the style of Foster is, typical African-American stance made famous by Floyd, the Philly shell. And it's hard to crack it, only few boxers have known how to fight against that stance.

Yes, and again, with this lost by Vargas, it's more intriguing the Magsayo vs Figueroa outcome. And both have seen what happen to Vargas and they know that he will go down to their weight class to insert him name. Nevertheless he is the current champion so both will have no choice but to fight Vargas.

Foster has a same reach like Vargas, so Vargas can't use his reach advantage like when he was fight Magsayo. Magsayo is very hard to reach Vargas since his hand is shorter, Vargas can easily duck it. I think Vargas is to late to change his stance, he always got punched in his right face, until sixth or seventh round he's realized about that.

If Magsayo will have a rematch with Vargas, it's better for him to being more aggressive and quick rather than looking to knocking out Vargas.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 13, 2023, 04:03:18 AM

Yes, and again, with this lost by Vargas, it's more intriguing the Magsayo vs Figueroa outcome. And both have seen what happen to Vargas and they know that he will go down to their weight class to insert him name. Nevertheless he is the current champion so both will have no choice but to fight Vargas.

March 4, right?
Any winner of these two boxers will have a chance against Vargas and I think the champion will also be itching to get a win after that loss against Foster.
Foster also showed how to beat the champion and that was the first dirt on his record. I bet Magsayo and Figueroa are also having thoughts about what strategies they will use when they face him.
But for now, they need their focus to be on the opponent in front of them before they could see the light for a title chance again.

Quote from: Baofeng on February 12, 2023, 05:32:23 AM

Yes, Foster really did his homework against a brawler like Vargas and that's why they were winning rounds because Vargas was really at lost at the style that is being shown by Foster in this fight. So congrats to him, maybe he will go for a unification fight with either Shavkat Rakhimov (IBF) or Hector Luis Garcia (WBA). So will see, there is also Oscar Valdez just waiting and Robson Conceicao. But to be honest, with the way Foster shown in this fight, it's going to be very dificult for the two mentioned to beat him.

Hector Luis Garcia, I do believe Foster can match him. There's just no news yet about when he will fight again after the loss to Davis. But as a champion, I think Foster can wait so that he could unify it.

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Quote from: Blitzboy on February 12, 2023, 07:52:10 AM

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Quote from: chaser15 on February 10, 2023, 06:57:42 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on February 10, 2023, 06:18:45 PM

Indeed, if he mange to win his upcoming fight, automatically the winner of Magsayo and Figueroa's fight will be declared as new title holder from that said division,

It's not automatic given there's another scenario.

The winner between Mark Magsayo and Brandon Figueroa will only be elevated from interim to regular champion if Vargas decides to move up if he wins against Foster. If Vargas loses, he will need to mandatory defend his 126 titles against the winner between Magsayo and Figueroa.

But for me, I'd rather see Vargas wins this match and move forward on achieving multiple titles per division.

If I'm not mistaken, it will be Vargas' 4th title division champion if he wins against Foster.

I guess that leads to the same thing mate as @Fredomago also stated above that "if he (Vargas) manage to win his upcoming fight" that would also mean that the winner of Figueroa-Magsayo fight will be declared as the regular champion and not as Interim champion, so somehow that's quite automatic as long as Vargas will conquer Foster successfully.

Not happening, Foster won against Vargas, it went to the judges scorecard: Tim Cheatham (117-111), Alejandro Rochin (119-109) and David Sutherland (116-112).

So it was a mastery from Foster and I think this is how you beat a brawler like Vargas, combination of slick defense, orthodox stance, which might have confused Vargas in the beginning.

And Foster has outlanded Vargas in every category to win his first title.

Vargas though remain a champion, WBC featherweight and most likely he will go down again. Making the Magsayo vs Figueroa a very interesting fight because if Vargas will defend his belt, it could be either of this two.

Foster definitely proved to be a master in the ring. He used a combination of slick defense and an orthodox stance that seemed to confuse Vargas, and it paid off as he came out on top. I'm also excited to see how the Magsayo vs Figueroa fight plays out, and if the winner will face off against Vargas. If it's Magsayo, I'm sure he'll be eager for a rematch to prove that he's the better fighter. However, he'll need to make the right adjustments, especially after seeing how Foster defeated Vargas. It's all about adapting and making the right moves in the ring!

Right, and for those who haven't seen the fight, here are the highlights of the fight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voIiJWRqSJk

As I have said, you can see how slick the style of Foster is, typical African-American stance made famous by Floyd, the Philly shell. And it's hard to crack it, only few boxers have known how to fight against that stance.

Yes, and again, with this lost by Vargas, it's more intriguing the Magsayo vs Figueroa outcome. And both have seen what happen to Vargas and they know that he will go down to their weight class to insert him name. Nevertheless he is the current champion so both will have no choice but to fight Vargas.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 12, 2023, 03:59:31 AM

Quote from: mirakal on February 11, 2023, 05:38:20 PM

Quote from: chaser15 on February 10, 2023, 06:57:42 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on February 10, 2023, 06:18:45 PM

Indeed, if he mange to win his upcoming fight, automatically the winner of Magsayo and Figueroa's fight will be declared as new title holder from that said division,

It's not automatic given there's another scenario.

The winner between Mark Magsayo and Brandon Figueroa will only be elevated from interim to regular champion if Vargas decides to move up if he wins against Foster. If Vargas loses, he will need to mandatory defend his 126 titles against the winner between Magsayo and Figueroa.

But for me, I'd rather see Vargas wins this match and move forward on achieving multiple titles per division.

If I'm not mistaken, it will be Vargas' 4th title division champion if he wins against Foster.

I guess that leads to the same thing mate as @Fredomago also stated above that "if he (Vargas) manage to win his upcoming fight" that would also mean that the winner of Figueroa-Magsayo fight will be declared as the regular champion and not as Interim champion, so somehow that's quite automatic as long as Vargas will conquer Foster successfully.

Not happening, Foster won against Vargas, it went to the judges scorecard: Tim Cheatham (117-111), Alejandro Rochin (119-109) and David Sutherland (116-112).

So it was a mastery from Foster and I think this is how you beat a brawler like Vargas, combination of slick defense, orthodox stance, which might have confused Vargas in the beginning.

And Foster has outlanded Vargas in every category to win his first title.

Vargas though remain a champion, WBC featherweight and most likely he will go down again. Making the Magsayo vs Figueroa a very interesting fight because if Vargas will defend his belt, it could be either of this two.

Foster definitely proved to be a master in the ring. He used a combination of slick defense and an orthodox stance that seemed to confuse Vargas, and it paid off as he came out on top. I'm also excited to see how the Magsayo vs Figueroa fight plays out, and if the winner will face off against Vargas. If it's Magsayo, I'm sure he'll be eager for a rematch to prove that he's the better fighter. However, he'll need to make the right adjustments, especially after seeing how Foster defeated Vargas. It's all about adapting and making the right moves in the ring!

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Quote from: mirakal on February 12, 2023, 05:37:26 AM

Congratulations to Foster he proved most of us wrong.

Well, it's good news if Vargas will be able to fight the winner of the Magsayo vs Figueroa fight, and if Magsayo will win, I'm pretty sure he'll agree with a rematch on Vargas, and that way he will be able to prove that he is the better fighter, of course, he'll not win if he will not make the right adjustment, I think now that Vargas is not anymore undefeated, Magsayo can study on how Foster defeated Vargas, and just duplicate the performance.

Maybe it's too early for that in terms of Magsayo, he needed to secure the win first against Figueroa and as we know that fighter is also another good competitor who can upset him if he won't manage to analyze and study how Figueroa will take this fight, it will be an interesting upcoming fight if Magsayo will win and Vargas will decide to go back to where he belongs.

We don't know what's waiting for the fans after that defeat from Foster, might be possible that the camp will try to ask for a rematch or Vargas will return and will face the winner of the fight between Magsayo and Figueroa.

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Indeed, if he mange to win his upcoming fight, automatically the winner of Magsayo and Figueroa's fight will be declared as new title holder from that said division,

It's not automatic given there's another scenario.

The winner between Mark Magsayo and Brandon Figueroa will only be elevated from interim to regular champion if Vargas decides to move up if he wins against Foster. If Vargas loses, he will need to mandatory defend his 126 titles against the winner between Magsayo and Figueroa.

But for me, I'd rather see Vargas wins this match and move forward on achieving multiple titles per division.

If I'm not mistaken, it will be Vargas' 4th title division champion if he wins against Foster.

I guess that leads to the same thing mate as @Fredomago also stated above that "if he (Vargas) manage to win his upcoming fight" that would also mean that the winner of Figueroa-Magsayo fight will be declared as the regular champion and not as Interim champion, so somehow that's quite automatic as long as Vargas will conquer Foster successfully.

Not happening, Foster won against Vargas, it went to the judges scorecard: Tim Cheatham (117-111), Alejandro Rochin (119-109) and David Sutherland (116-112).

So it was a mastery from Foster and I think this is how you beat a brawler like Vargas, combination of slick defense, orthodox stance, which might have confused Vargas in the beginning.

And Foster has outlanded Vargas in every category to win his first title.

Vargas though remain a champion, WBC featherweight and most likely he will go down again. Making the Magsayo vs Figueroa a very interesting fight because if Vargas will defend his belt, it could be either of this two.

Congratulations to Foster he proved most of us wrong.

Well, it's good news if Vargas will be able to fight the winner of the Magsayo vs Figueroa fight, and if Magsayo will win, I'm pretty sure he'll agree with a rematch on Vargas, and that way he will be able to prove that he is the better fighter, of course, he'll not win if he will not make the right adjustment, I think now that Vargas is not anymore undefeated, Magsayo can study on how Foster defeated Vargas, and just duplicate the performance.

I guess so but other than that, I think we are just too focused about the Magsayo vs Figueroa fight without seeing Vargas's chances against his opponent, Foster, who defeated him this day via unanimous decision. In that case, Vargas has nowhere to go but to wait for the winner again and then defend his title because even if he won't give Figueroa a chance or Magsayo a rematch, time will come that the WBC will give a mandatory fight.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 12, 2023, 03:59:31 AM

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Quote from: Fredomago on February 10, 2023, 06:18:45 PM

Indeed, if he mange to win his upcoming fight, automatically the winner of Magsayo and Figueroa's fight will be declared as new title holder from that said division,

It's not automatic given there's another scenario.

The winner between Mark Magsayo and Brandon Figueroa will only be elevated from interim to regular champion if Vargas decides to move up if he wins against Foster. If Vargas loses, he will need to mandatory defend his 126 titles against the winner between Magsayo and Figueroa.

But for me, I'd rather see Vargas wins this match and move forward on achieving multiple titles per division.

If I'm not mistaken, it will be Vargas' 4th title division champion if he wins against Foster.

I guess that leads to the same thing mate as @Fredomago also stated above that "if he (Vargas) manage to win his upcoming fight" that would also mean that the winner of Figueroa-Magsayo fight will be declared as the regular champion and not as Interim champion, so somehow that's quite automatic as long as Vargas will conquer Foster successfully.

Not happening, Foster won against Vargas, it went to the judges scorecard: Tim Cheatham (117-111), Alejandro Rochin (119-109) and David Sutherland (116-112).

So it was a mastery from Foster and I think this is how you beat a brawler like Vargas, combination of slick defense, orthodox stance, which might have confused Vargas in the beginning.

And Foster has outlanded Vargas in every category to win his first title.

Vargas though remain a champion, WBC featherweight and most likely he will go down again. Making the Magsayo vs Figueroa a very interesting fight because if Vargas will defend his belt, it could be either of this two.

Congratulations to Foster he proved most of us wrong.

Well, it's good news if Vargas will be able to fight the winner of the Magsayo vs Figueroa fight, and if Magsayo will win, I'm pretty sure he'll agree with a rematch on Vargas, and that way he will be able to prove that he is the better fighter, of course, he'll not win if he will not make the right adjustment, I think now that Vargas is not anymore undefeated, Magsayo can study on how Foster defeated Vargas, and just duplicate the performance.

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Not happening, Foster won against Vargas, it went to the judges scorecard: Tim Cheatham (117-111), Alejandro Rochin (119-109) and David Sutherland (116-112).

So it was a mastery from Foster and I think this is how you beat a brawler like Vargas, combination of slick defense, orthodox stance, which might have confused Vargas in the beginning.

And Foster has outlanded Vargas in every category to win his first title.

Vargas though remain a champion, WBC featherweight and most likely he will go down again. Making the Magsayo vs Figueroa a very interesting fight because if Vargas will defend his belt, it could be either of this two.

Lost my bet, ouch.
O'Shaquie Foster is damn good. From defense to countering the haymakers of Rey Vargas. I didn't expect that as I thought Vargas' jabs will dominate the fight I was shocked that he cannot even land those punches accurately.
The new champion did his homework, he knows the range, and he can easily dodge the jabs, and most importantly he knew the timing on when he could land a counter.
That was some damn performance by Foster and I wish he just became more aggressive early, there's even a slight chance he could KO Vargas.

And if you remember, he says that he will send back Rey Vargas to his previous weight class and that's why he did here, he shows that Vargas doesn't belong yet to this decision.

Yes, Foster really did his homework against a brawler like Vargas and that's why they were winning rounds because Vargas was really at lost at the style that is being shown by Foster in this fight. So congrats to him, maybe he will go for a unification fight with either Shavkat Rakhimov (IBF) or Hector Luis Garcia (WBA). So will see, there is also Oscar Valdez just waiting and Robson Conceicao. But to be honest, with the way Foster shown in this fight, it's going to be very dificult for the two mentioned to beat him.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 12, 2023, 03:59:31 AM

Not happening, Foster won against Vargas, it went to the judges scorecard: Tim Cheatham (117-111), Alejandro Rochin (119-109) and David Sutherland (116-112).

So it was a mastery from Foster and I think this is how you beat a brawler like Vargas, combination of slick defense, orthodox stance, which might have confused Vargas in the beginning.

And Foster has outlanded Vargas in every category to win his first title.

Vargas though remain a champion, WBC featherweight and most likely he will go down again. Making the Magsayo vs Figueroa a very interesting fight because if Vargas will defend his belt, it could be either of this two.

Lost my bet, ouch.
O'Shaquie Foster is damn good. From defense to countering the haymakers of Rey Vargas. I didn't expect that as I thought Vargas' jabs will dominate the fight I was shocked that he cannot even land those punches accurately.
The new champion did his homework, he knows the range, and he can easily dodge the jabs, and most importantly he knew the timing on when he could land a counter.
That was some damn performance by Foster and I wish he just became more aggressive early, there's even a slight chance he could KO Vargas.

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Quote from: mirakal on February 11, 2023, 05:38:20 PM

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Quote from: Fredomago on February 10, 2023, 06:18:45 PM

Indeed, if he mange to win his upcoming fight, automatically the winner of Magsayo and Figueroa's fight will be declared as new title holder from that said division,

It's not automatic given there's another scenario.

The winner between Mark Magsayo and Brandon Figueroa will only be elevated from interim to regular champion if Vargas decides to move up if he wins against Foster. If Vargas loses, he will need to mandatory defend his 126 titles against the winner between Magsayo and Figueroa.

But for me, I'd rather see Vargas wins this match and move forward on achieving multiple titles per division.

If I'm not mistaken, it will be Vargas' 4th title division champion if he wins against Foster.

I guess that leads to the same thing mate as @Fredomago also stated above that "if he (Vargas) manage to win his upcoming fight" that would also mean that the winner of Figueroa-Magsayo fight will be declared as the regular champion and not as Interim champion, so somehow that's quite automatic as long as Vargas will conquer Foster successfully.

Not happening, Foster won against Vargas, it went to the judges scorecard: Tim Cheatham (117-111), Alejandro Rochin (119-109) and David Sutherland (116-112).

So it was a mastery from Foster and I think this is how you beat a brawler like Vargas, combination of slick defense, orthodox stance, which might have confused Vargas in the beginning.

And Foster has outlanded Vargas in every category to win his first title.

Vargas though remain a champion, WBC featherweight and most likely he will go down again. Making the Magsayo vs Figueroa a very interesting fight because if Vargas will defend his belt, it could be either of this two.

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Quote from: chaser15 on February 10, 2023, 06:57:42 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on February 10, 2023, 06:18:45 PM

Indeed, if he mange to win his upcoming fight, automatically the winner of Magsayo and Figueroa's fight will be declared as new title holder from that said division,

It's not automatic given there's another scenario.

The winner between Mark Magsayo and Brandon Figueroa will only be elevated from interim to regular champion if Vargas decides to move up if he wins against Foster. If Vargas loses, he will need to mandatory defend his 126 titles against the winner between Magsayo and Figueroa.

But for me, I'd rather see Vargas wins this match and move forward on achieving multiple titles per division.

If I'm not mistaken, it will be Vargas' 4th title division champion if he wins against Foster.

I guess that leads to the same thing mate as @Fredomago also stated above that "if he (Vargas) manage to win his upcoming fight" that would also mean that the winner of Figueroa-Magsayo fight will be declared as the regular champion and not as Interim champion, so somehow that's quite automatic as long as Vargas will conquer Foster successfully.

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It's politics again that play a big role here and that is why Jack C. is being bypass. I would agree that it seems they work this into perfection from behind without Jack's camp noticing it.

And it was noted that Jack already signed a contract and just waiting for the rescheduled date for his rematch against Josh Taylor. There are no stated reasons though why a sudden change of event. Jack's camp is just waiting until Taylor is now suited for the fight.

Damn, I badly want to see their rematch as that was a heated fight. They should settle it once and for all and not by facing other boxers.

Kind of disappointed here if they will meet not instead.

Thanks, I thought that I was the only one wanting to see the rematch, and it's good to hear that Josh will give him the second fight because everyone knows that Jack was robbed by a victory there.

It was really heated and it was a war, The scores were 113-112 for Catterall, 114-111 for Taylor, and 113-112 for Taylor. It might be better if the fight is a draw. And the judge who score the fight 114-111 was criticized because it was obvious a biased score.

Poor Jack though, this could be the second robbery of him if the Taylor vs Lopez pushes through this year.

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Quote from: TravelMug on February 11, 2023, 03:27:41 AM

It's politics again that play a big role here and that is why Jack C. is being bypass. I would agree that it seems they work this into perfection from behind without Jack's camp noticing it.

And it was noted that Jack already signed a contract and just waiting for the rescheduled date for his rematch against Josh Taylor. There are no stated reasons though why a sudden change of event. Jack's camp is just waiting until Taylor is now suited for the fight.

Damn, I badly want to see their rematch as that was a heated fight. They should settle it once and for all and not by facing other boxers.

Kind of disappointed here if they will meet not instead.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on February 11, 2023, 05:04:33 AM

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I think regardless of how we think of that fight, it does make sense for Teofimo Lopez to be chosen as the challenger for that WBO Junior Welterweight Title.

Even having only a few fights at 140 against an "unknown" boxer as you mentioned, Teofimo Lopez is currently the Rank 1 contender in the current WBO rankings in that particular division, therefore, he is eligible for a title match and a challenger.

We can't only blame Top Rank here as WBO itself plays a role in allowing that fight.

Yeah both of Lopez and Taylor teams are agree to make this fight, actually it's a benefit for Taylor since Lopez isn't proving anything in the last 2 matches, actually he was struggle when he fight with Sandor Martin.

Josh Taylor is number one boxer in light welterweight, this mean Lopez will fight with the best boxer in light welterweight. If this fight will happen, I'm not sure which one will become favorite. Lopez have a lot fans while Taylor have proving his capability.

Not only number one, he used to be the unified champion in 140 lbs, he just have to vacant 3 belts and retain the WBO because other bodies are forcing him to have mandatory fight in which obviously he can handle it in just a year.

So he fight Jack Catterall for this first title defense but it didn't went very well as he almost lost that fight, and so a rematch has to be made which is supposedly next month until Taylor pull out of that fight because of a reported injury.

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Quote from: chaser15 on February 10, 2023, 11:23:15 PM

I think regardless of how we think of that fight, it does make sense for Teofimo Lopez to be chosen as the challenger for that WBO Junior Welterweight Title.

Even having only a few fights at 140 against an "unknown" boxer as you mentioned, Teofimo Lopez is currently the Rank 1 contender in the current WBO rankings in that particular division, therefore, he is eligible for a title match and a challenger.

We can't only blame Top Rank here as WBO itself plays a role in allowing that fight.

Yeah both of Lopez and Taylor teams are agree to make this fight, actually it's a benefit for Taylor since Lopez isn't proving anything in the last 2 matches, actually he was struggle when he fight with Sandor Martin.

Josh Taylor is number one boxer in light welterweight, this mean Lopez will fight with the best boxer in light welterweight. If this fight will happen, I'm not sure which one will become favorite. Lopez have a lot fans while Taylor have proving his capability.

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Quote from: chaser15 on February 10, 2023, 11:23:15 PM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on February 10, 2023, 08:59:54 PM

Just makes me wonder why Teofimo Lopez is getting all this special treatment when he moves to 140 lbs. He hasn't proved anything yet in this division, having like 1-2 fights with unknown boxer.

And now he will be give the chance to fight for a world title at this division? The only thing that I can think of is that Top Rank wants all money in-house for them and their fighters, so it's easy to make this fight by bypassing Jack.

I think regardless of how we think of that fight, it does make sense for Teofimo Lopez to be chosen as the challenger for that WBO Junior Welterweight Title.

Even having only a few fights at 140 against an "unknown" boxer as you mentioned, Teofimo Lopez is currently the Rank 1 contender in the current WBO rankings in that particular division, therefore, he is eligible for a title match and a challenger.

We can't only blame Top Rank here as WBO itself plays a role in allowing that fight.

Proving anything at the present division is actually not that important these days as the promoter's influence can already get the governing bodies confirmation. Even if he just got a 2-fight with unknown boxers, those are still win and eventually, he will climb the ladder towards the champion and contest their belt.

It's not that new as well because Teo Lopez is not that kind of ordinary boxer as he already made a name in the previous weight class, so, it's obvious that he won't begin at the bottom of the food chain on his climb just like the other boxers do.

Just few examples:
Canelo Alvarez when he fought Kovalev directly
Naoya Inoue will now be fighting Steph Fulton directly

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Quote from: chaser15 on February 10, 2023, 11:23:15 PM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on February 10, 2023, 08:59:54 PM

Just makes me wonder why Teofimo Lopez is getting all this special treatment when he moves to 140 lbs. He hasn't proved anything yet in this division, having like 1-2 fights with unknown boxer.

And now he will be give the chance to fight for a world title at this division? The only thing that I can think of is that Top Rank wants all money in-house for them and their fighters, so it's easy to make this fight by bypassing Jack.

I think regardless of how we think of that fight, it does make sense for Teofimo Lopez to be chosen as the challenger for that WBO Junior Welterweight Title.

Even having only a few fights at 140 against an "unknown" boxer as you mentioned, Teofimo Lopez is currently the Rank 1 contender in the current WBO rankings in that particular division, therefore, he is eligible for a title match and a challenger.

We can't only blame Top Rank here as WBO itself plays a role in allowing that fight.

It's politics again that play a big role here and that is why Jack C. is being bypass. I would agree that it seems they work this into perfection from behind without Jack's camp noticing it.

But we will see, I think it's not final yet, Top Rank may just have lay down their cards in here so that obviously, money goes to them regardless of who is going to win or lose in this fight.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on January 30, 2023, 03:28:54 AM

Dmitry Bivol really wants to fight Artur Beterbiev, in a title unification bout it sure is a great fight to watch we will surely see who may prevail Power, VS Speed and like I have said Dmitry Bivol is a technical fighter, that has volume and speed and his punches were quite lethal if he strikes on the same target, it could be devastating, but 1 punch of Artur Beterbiev may close the fight into a KO win for Beterbiev, because 1 punch is all Beterbiev needed, while Bivol will surely fine a way to counter this aswell,

I'm hoping that one day we will have a thread about Bivol and Beterbiev, that they finally going to meet in the ring with a date of the course, and a contract, there are so many speculations when it comes to two fighters I hope between these two fighters we will not see issues like what we have seen between Spence and Crawford they just want to make people hoping when we have the date and the contract we'll then have a healthy discussion between these two fighters.

For now, we just need to wait for further announcements because right now we surely are wishful thinking that this fight will go through but for now, waiting patiently is the only option, and hope that there are promoters that are listening to the many fans that want this fight to really happen and because these two is not getting any younger now and nearing their retiring years eventually there might be a solution for these two to really fight for real,

Now I would like to post this event because there is no thread available for it, and this is an event that is starting right now,

Boxfest Round 29

Saturday 02.11.2023
Venue: The Derby Room Pomona at Fairplex
Location: Pomona, CA

MAIN EVENT

Fernando Vargas Jr VS Geronimo Nahuel Sacco

MAIN CARD

Jerry Bradford VS James Westley II
Matthew Rodriguez VS Yainiel Alvarez
Oleksandr Gvozdyk VS Jorge Daniel Miranda
Austin Brooks VS Ezequiel Borrero
Hector Lopez VS Olaf Estrella Soto
Aidyn Yelzhanov VS Trenton Gibson
Federico Pacheco Jr VS Halston Williams
Joseph Abudy VS Juan Molina
Morris Young VS Daniel Perales

CANCELLED CARD

Andrii Novytskyi VS Jeremiah Stevenson

All information was from TAPOLOGY

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