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Quote from: Jawhead999 on April 12, 2023, 06:10:25 AM

Maybe Tapales will have a few fights before he fight with Fulton or Inoue to become an undisputed champion. There's possible a rematch against Murodjon Akhmadaliev to see if Tapales really beat him.

Did Tapales agree to the rematch? I know it's an upset, but let's give credit to Tapales. If he gives a chance for a rematch, that's even better. He is the defending champion, so Akhmadaliev will have to double his effort and convince the judges that he can dominate the champion.

For me, I would prefer to see him fight a challenger first before a unification fight. That way, he can be tested to see if he is really ready to fight the other champions. If he does end up facing Inoue in a unification battle, I will play smart and remain unbiased.

Or if there is a rematch clause to begin with?

However, I wouldn't discount the fact that yes, Akhmadaliev can request for a rematch, and the camp of Marlon can give or not give him that. Based on the scores, both judges have the same, except for the one. So there are no controversies there in my opinion. But if Marlon knows that he truly beat Akhmadaliev then maybe he will think about it and gave the consent for rematch. Of course, the money will be on the side of Tapales now since he is now the champion. But let's see.

To end this speculation, here's a news regarding their possible rematch: NO REMATCH CLAUSE FOR MURODJON AKHMADALIEV VS MARLON TAPALES

In the stated article, Akhmadaliev's promoter, Eddie Hearn, said in an interview that there was no rematch clause written on the contract but they will try to make a rematch happen and if Tapales's camp won't agree, they will try to ask the WBA to enforce a mandatory fight to get that fight. As we all know, Eddie Hearn wasn't convinced that Marlon Tapales won that match that's why they will try to negotiate for a rematch.

Ok, thanks for that info, so yeah, no rematch clause then Akhmadaliev would have to work double hard to become the mandatory challenger for the belt. However, we all know that Tapales wanted to fight the winner of Fulton and Inoue for the unification fight. Although his chances are slim, it might be the right decision for him in the future.

But with the power and influence of Eddie Hearn, I wouldn't be surprised if the governing body will give in to his request to have a immediate rematch with Marlon Tapales. But for sure Marlon will want that fight as well as he wants to proved that his win is no fluke.

I think that the governing body will just let him off the hook for the meantime and give Marlon Tapales a couple of months before giving him a mandatory defense fight as he just won the fight. It might be too unfair if they will give Tapales an immediate defense fight because he's not yet due for the next 6 months, so that leaves him some time to pick his own opponents instead of fighting a mandatory challenger that the governing body will give.

I read that there will be a title eliminator fight the IBF belt held by Tapales, it would be,

Luis Nery #3 vs Ra’eese Aleem #4. If they proceed with the fight then the winner will have the first chance to fight Marlon Tapales for his IBF belt. If the two doesn't want to go to title eliminator they will be strip of their rankings.

So Tapales now has one potential opponent in the future, the winner of this fight. It will be tough regardless of the outcome for Tapales, so he better take a rest now and then prepare again maybe late this year or early next year.

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 15, 2023, 01:36:21 PM

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on April 14, 2023, 02:56:18 PM

^^ Yes, I think Murodjon will take this lost like a man, take a rest and be with his family. And after that healing then maybe he can request from the camp of Marlon Tapales about a possible rematch. Or he might be the number 1 rank challenger for the belt again and should wait for his turn.

On the other hand, most likely Tapales might be back in the Philippines already and celebrating as well with this family after that biggest win in his career and now a 2 belt champion in super bantamweight.

Yeah, Murodjon should take it as a man and re-try his chances of either take a rematch or find his way back as a contender for the belts, it was being decided that Tapales win the fight and even they will doubt the decision it has been announced so better to take that and move forward and plan his way back for another shot for reclaiming the belts.

There's always another chance if Murodjon will continue fighting if ever that the rematch will not happen right away, he just need to keep pushing to make his way back on top.

Yeah, they don't need to push for it, there will be another time for him to become champion. He just have to take everything right now as to what happen to him. He just lost the fight, and they think it's not fair, then they have to wait for another chance. Let other boxers have a crack at Marlon first and see how it goes. If Marlon can defend the belt then good, Murodjon should fight another one and then if he won then maybe he will have his chances back. If Marlon losses then still a win win for Murodjon as he can fight the boxer that beat Marlon. No need to rush at this point, just take his time agian.

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Quote from: Kemarit on April 14, 2023, 02:59:26 PM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on April 12, 2023, 06:10:25 AM

Maybe Tapales will have a few fights before he fight with Fulton or Inoue to become an undisputed champion. There's possible a rematch against Murodjon Akhmadaliev to see if Tapales really beat him.

Did Tapales agree to the rematch? I know it's an upset, but let's give credit to Tapales. If he gives a chance for a rematch, that's even better. He is the defending champion, so Akhmadaliev will have to double his effort and convince the judges that he can dominate the champion.

For me, I would prefer to see him fight a challenger first before a unification fight. That way, he can be tested to see if he is really ready to fight the other champions. If he does end up facing Inoue in a unification battle, I will play smart and remain unbiased.

Or if there is a rematch clause to begin with?

However, I wouldn't discount the fact that yes, Akhmadaliev can request for a rematch, and the camp of Marlon can give or not give him that. Based on the scores, both judges have the same, except for the one. So there are no controversies there in my opinion. But if Marlon knows that he truly beat Akhmadaliev then maybe he will think about it and gave the consent for rematch. Of course, the money will be on the side of Tapales now since he is now the champion. But let's see.

To end this speculation, here's a news regarding their possible rematch: NO REMATCH CLAUSE FOR MURODJON AKHMADALIEV VS MARLON TAPALES

In the stated article, Akhmadaliev's promoter, Eddie Hearn, said in an interview that there was no rematch clause written on the contract but they will try to make a rematch happen and if Tapales's camp won't agree, they will try to ask the WBA to enforce a mandatory fight to get that fight. As we all know, Eddie Hearn wasn't convinced that Marlon Tapales won that match that's why they will try to negotiate for a rematch.

Ok, thanks for that info, so yeah, no rematch clause then Akhmadaliev would have to work double hard to become the mandatory challenger for the belt. However, we all know that Tapales wanted to fight the winner of Fulton and Inoue for the unification fight. Although his chances are slim, it might be the right decision for him in the future.

But with the power and influence of Eddie Hearn, I wouldn't be surprised if the governing body will give in to his request to have a immediate rematch with Marlon Tapales. But for sure Marlon will want that fight as well as he wants to proved that his win is no fluke.

I think that the governing body will just let him off the hook for the meantime and give Marlon Tapales a couple of months before giving him a mandatory defense fight as he just won the fight. It might be too unfair if they will give Tapales an immediate defense fight because he's not yet due for the next 6 months, so that leaves him some time to pick his own opponents instead of fighting a mandatory challenger that the governing body will give.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on April 14, 2023, 02:56:18 PM

^^ Yes, I think Murodjon will take this lost like a man, take a rest and be with his family. And after that healing then maybe he can request from the camp of Marlon Tapales about a possible rematch. Or he might be the number 1 rank challenger for the belt again and should wait for his turn.

On the other hand, most likely Tapales might be back in the Philippines already and celebrating as well with this family after that biggest win in his career and now a 2 belt champion in super bantamweight.

Yeah, Murodjon should take it as a man and re-try his chances of either take a rematch or find his way back as a contender for the belts, it was being decided that Tapales win the fight and even they will doubt the decision it has been announced so better to take that and move forward and plan his way back for another shot for reclaiming the belts.

There's always another chance if Murodjon will continue fighting if ever that the rematch will not happen right away, he just need to keep pushing to make his way back on top.

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Quote from: Baofeng on March 29, 2023, 05:29:56 PM

^^ Not really sure what do you mean by not interested, Canelo is still the cash cow of boxing, so whoever he fight next, will definitely make a lot of money. And maybe Bivol can double on what he get during their first fight as he already beat Canelo at 175. Now there is a scenario that might interested Bivol, that is to fight Canelo as his super middle weight class, which means that Canelo will have to put all his belt on the line. So the stakes are high and Bivol might not resists it because it's going to be a win-win situation for him. And if by chance he beat Canelo twice, then he will be a double belt champion at 168 lbs and his 175 lbs. And Canelo wanted to get his revenge against Bivol, we totally didn't expect that he will lost to Bivol.

Well, what I think of all this is as I have been saying for a long time, Bivol is a boxer who has always wanted to seek fame and greatness, I think that now more because of his nationality, the Russian athletes have tried by all means to ban them for the conflict of the war against Ukraine, and Canelo for his part lost, and what will Bivol say? that he already beat him that he doesn't need to prove anything, but as a good boxer he must accept the challenge, revenge is always good in boxing, and if he comes out as a winner again, then he may have other ways of saying no if he comes back to lose revenge and continue looking for what he wants.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on April 10, 2023, 10:00:29 AM

It's obviously a cherry pick by Joyce because Zhang didn't even able to beat Filip Hrgovic, Joyce is better than Hrgovic, I think Joyce will win via KO since
his KO rate is really high. If Joyce win via KO, it will boost his mental and he will be confident enough to challenge Tyson Fury for WBC belt. If he only win via decision, I think he will take few fight more.

I don't really want to think that BIG BANG Zhilei Zhang is just a cherry-picked for Joe Joyce, even though he didn't beat Filip Hrgovic and it is a Unanimous Decision victory for Filip Hrgovic A fight with Joe Joyce is also a different story, but that is what you think but for this fight, Joe Joyce is 2 years younger than Zhang so maybe he can get this done, or analysis it with their fight maybe Joyce have seen that he has a significant advantage against Zhilei Zhang,

Quote from: Getmon on April 11, 2023, 07:52:22 AM

Two major surprises occurred. With two belts, Marlon Tapales is the new champion. I keep thinking about whether the new boss is willing to match himself to the victor of Naoya Inoue and Steph Fulton.

Another upset occurred when the powerful left hook of Brian Mendoza caught WBC interim champion Sebastian Fundora off guard. Jermell Charlo, the undisputed champion of the division, currently has two mandates ready to include Tim Tszyu.

Takuma Inoue, the brother of Naoya Inoue, is now a world champion after acquiring the WBA belt left by his brother.

Naoya Inoue after the Stephen Fulton fight if he wins that fight the next target will surely be Marlon Tapales to unify the WBO super-bantamweight titles sure that will be a great fight to watch but I indeed am worried about Tapales because seeing how Naoya Inoue's style and how he fights well I am not really underestimating Fulton but I really think that Inoue will win against Fulton, so yeah I guess I will bet for Naoya Inoue if the odds was great,

The truth is that I think the same as you, for me Inoue will easily win against Fulton, of course this is something that at least I say because of his performance in the ring, because Inoue fights as if he were a genius, so all those fights in which we have seen The Japanese do what they do best, which is to win, I don't think this new category will stop them, I imagine that the training must be on another level, but that's boxing, they have to get used to the weight and be able to show that they are the best.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on April 12, 2023, 06:10:25 AM

Maybe Tapales will have a few fights before he fight with Fulton or Inoue to become an undisputed champion. There's possible a rematch against Murodjon Akhmadaliev to see if Tapales really beat him.

Did Tapales agree to the rematch? I know it's an upset, but let's give credit to Tapales. If he gives a chance for a rematch, that's even better. He is the defending champion, so Akhmadaliev will have to double his effort and convince the judges that he can dominate the champion.

For me, I would prefer to see him fight a challenger first before a unification fight. That way, he can be tested to see if he is really ready to fight the other champions. If he does end up facing Inoue in a unification battle, I will play smart and remain unbiased.

Or if there is a rematch clause to begin with?

However, I wouldn't discount the fact that yes, Akhmadaliev can request for a rematch, and the camp of Marlon can give or not give him that. Based on the scores, both judges have the same, except for the one. So there are no controversies there in my opinion. But if Marlon knows that he truly beat Akhmadaliev then maybe he will think about it and gave the consent for rematch. Of course, the money will be on the side of Tapales now since he is now the champion. But let's see.

To end this speculation, here's a news regarding their possible rematch: NO REMATCH CLAUSE FOR MURODJON AKHMADALIEV VS MARLON TAPALES

In the stated article, Akhmadaliev's promoter, Eddie Hearn, said in an interview that there was no rematch clause written on the contract but they will try to make a rematch happen and if Tapales's camp won't agree, they will try to ask the WBA to enforce a mandatory fight to get that fight. As we all know, Eddie Hearn wasn't convinced that Marlon Tapales won that match that's why they will try to negotiate for a rematch.

Ok, thanks for that info, so yeah, no rematch clause then Akhmadaliev would have to work double hard to become the mandatory challenger for the belt. However, we all know that Tapales wanted to fight the winner of Fulton and Inoue for the unification fight. Although his chances are slim, it might be the right decision for him in the future.

But with the power and influence of Eddie Hearn, I wouldn't be surprised if the governing body will give in to his request to have a immediate rematch with Marlon Tapales. But for sure Marlon will want that fight as well as he wants to proved that his win is no fluke.

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^^ Yes, I think Murodjon will take this lost like a man, take a rest and be with his family. And after that healing then maybe he can request from the camp of Marlon Tapales about a possible rematch. Or he might be the number 1 rank challenger for the belt again and should wait for his turn.

On the other hand, most likely Tapales might be back in the Philippines already and celebrating as well with this family after that biggest win in his career and now a 2 belt champion in super bantamweight.

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Quote from: Fredomago on April 14, 2023, 07:43:57 AM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on April 12, 2023, 06:10:25 AM

Maybe Tapales will have a few fights before he fight with Fulton or Inoue to become an undisputed champion. There's possible a rematch against Murodjon Akhmadaliev to see if Tapales really beat him.

Did Tapales agree to the rematch? I know it's an upset, but let's give credit to Tapales. If he gives a chance for a rematch, that's even better. He is the defending champion, so Akhmadaliev will have to double his effort and convince the judges that he can dominate the champion.

For me, I would prefer to see him fight a challenger first before a unification fight. That way, he can be tested to see if he is really ready to fight the other champions. If he does end up facing Inoue in a unification battle, I will play smart and remain unbiased.

Or if there is a rematch clause to begin with?

However, I wouldn't discount the fact that yes, Akhmadaliev can request for a rematch, and the camp of Marlon can give or not give him that. Based on the scores, both judges have the same, except for the one. So there are no controversies there in my opinion. But if Marlon knows that he truly beat Akhmadaliev then maybe he will think about it and gave the consent for rematch. Of course, the money will be on the side of Tapales now since he is now the champion. But let's see.

To end this speculation, here's a news regarding their possible rematch: NO REMATCH CLAUSE FOR MURODJON AKHMADALIEV VS MARLON TAPALES

In the stated article, Akhmadaliev's promoter, Eddie Hearn, said in an interview that there was no rematch clause written on the contract but they will try to make a rematch happen and if Tapales's camp won't agree, they will try to ask the WBA to enforce a mandatory fight to get that fight. As we all know, Eddie Hearn wasn't convinced that Marlon Tapales won that match that's why they will try to negotiate for a rematch.

Good thing that there's no rematch claw as Tapales and his camp can negotiate more if in case Hearn will insist since Tapales now holding the belt meaning to say that he's in the position to ask for his demand, for now no update yet if they will negotiate maybe they are enjoying the fame and the money that they've got after the fight.

We will wait for more details if the direction of this will go to what Hearn will request, like what you mentioned. He's not convinced that his champ lost that fight.

In most cases, the losing camp is expected to take their time and absorb the defeat before they start to make a move whether they will pursue a rematch or move on and it's still too early to hear an update about their possible rematch because I'm sure Murodjon is still resting while Tapales is living the dream because he is now the IBF and WBA World Champion.

We will likely hear some updates about it after a full month rest, Eddie Hearn may be restless about what happened but he knows that he should respect the decision and will try to bounce back next time, if there's a next time.

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