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Shakur By KO is 3.55. This is a very substantial odd I think Shakur can actually bring Yoshino down before 5th round. He isn't a boxer that rings a bell and indeed this is sort of a tuneup for Shakur.

It's surprising he is given an opponent that is not on a list that could potentially make a lot of money. He should be fighting the top contender.
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^ Lots of fight, hard to see and what to fight to bet.

But I'm more interesting on the Tapales match, so far no media coverage whatsoever as compare to the Inoue vs Fulton fight. But this is also big as he is facing the other champion in this division. And anyone is hoping that another Filipino will be crown champion in this heavy laden and talented 122 lbs.

Another must watch is Shakur vs Yoshino, although Shakur is the favorite here, but we want to see what the Japanese can offer against Stevenson. It could be a tune up fight for him or could be tougher than what we think since the Japanese might be a good boxer.
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Overall, I guess it would be better for him to fight other heavyweight boxers instead of challenging these 2, but if one of them materializes, then I will pick them over Joshua.
Same decision for me.
And like @Silberman said, there's really not much of an option unless he tries to defeat one more weak boxer just to prove his knockout ability before he journey to the popular one on the top of their weight class.
Anyway, like you guys, I may bet for the other guy in the top ranks than Joshua. Not that I underestimate him but we don't know if Franklin has a stronger chin or Joshua's punches are weaker, I believe it's the latter and it's a crucial part of his next fight.

Saturday night. 8 PM Eastern Time. Newark, United States.

Main Event:
Shakur Stevenson vs. Shuichiro Yoshino - 12 rounds - Eliminator for the WBC lightweight championship of the world.
Undercards:
Jared Anderson vs. George Arias - Heavyweight
Keyshawn Davis vs. Anthony Yigit - Lightweight

Another fight is happening on that day in San Antonio, United States. Same time.

Main Card:
Jesse Rodriguez vs. Cristian Gonzalez -Vacant WBO World Flyweight Championship
Undercard:
Marlon Tapales vs. Murodjon Akhmadaliev - this will be a big one for Filipinos if Tapales wins this mandatory fight for the IBF World Super Bantamweight because glued to it is the WBA Super World Super Bantam title.

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I watched the video you shared. The reporter is talking a bit exaggerated in the initial seconds of the interview with his words, but the whole interview is still good at least.
He himself was disappointed on his performance because it wasn't a knockout win, and now he wants to match-up against either Fury or Wilder? 3 words for him. Don't do it.

He just came back after a heartbreaking 2 straight loss against Usyk, and then he wants to fight champions like Wilder, and Fury? I mean he's a champion as well, but I doubt that he can defeat either of the 2. Even Wilder who has been known for his strong punches can be defeated against Joshua (at least at this time). Overall, I guess it would be better for him to fight other heavyweight boxers instead of challenging these 2, but if one of them materializes, then I will pick them over Joshua.
But if Joshua does not fight either Wilder or Fury then who else can he fight? Obviously Usyk is not an option as he lost clearly against him twice, so the only belt available for him to contest is the one that Fury is holding, and if he does not fight Fury then the natural candidate seems to be Wilder, now I agree that I do not see him winning over any of them but if he does not take the challenge he may as well just retire.
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I watched the video you shared. The reporter is talking a bit exaggerated in the initial seconds of the interview with his words, but the whole interview is still good at least.
He himself was disappointed on his performance because it wasn't a knockout win, and now he wants to match-up against either Fury or Wilder? 3 words for him. Don't do it.

He just came back after a heartbreaking 2 straight loss against Usyk, and then he wants to fight champions like Wilder, and Fury? I mean he's a champion as well, but I doubt that he can defeat either of the 2. Even Wilder who has been known for his strong punches can be defeated against Joshua (at least at this time). Overall, I guess it would be better for him to fight other heavyweight boxers instead of challenging these 2, but if one of them materializes, then I will pick them over Joshua.
I think Joshua's performance doesn't changed, he just unlucky for not able to knockout Franklin, Joshua is really dominating in any round. It's not good for Joshua to take a challenge to fight with Wilder, either he lose or win he will not get anything. But if Joshua want to take a challenge to fight with Fury, he can grab the WBC belt if he win.

I have a different opinion, I will pick Joshua here because I expect he will become underdog due to his previous fight he not win via KO, but I know Joshua is stronger than that.
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Anthony Joshua (1.09) VS Jermaine Franklin (8.00) - ROUND 12 - DECISION - WIN
The odds say it for Anthony Joshua, it would have been disappointing and a shocker had the outcome of this fight be anything other than expected. But other than his victory, I feel the fight was a very average fight for a fighter like Joshua who we have seen better from in his early years. Had Joshua been more damaging with his right hand that we know is his most powerful hand, Maybe Franklin would have been knocked out, and that would have been a better come back statement for him.

With a win for Anthony Joshua, I wonder the fight that will come first for him, will it be Dillion Whyte or Fury?
Fury or Wilder. That's what he said in this clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqxvFsjzneU

I doubt it will be Fury who is next. Wilder might have a better chance to materialize. With that kind of performance which he himself is not happy about, he may want to think about the choices he will make and not just throw a challenge from the top in heavyweight.
We expect KOs in heavyweight matches and we didn't see it in his fight, he may want it but it didn't happen. So if I were him and his camp I'd pick those whom he can surely defeat just like what happened against Franklin. As you said, the odds say it all.
I watched the video you shared. The reporter is talking a bit exaggerated in the initial seconds of the interview with his words, but the whole interview is still good at least.
He himself was disappointed on his performance because it wasn't a knockout win, and now he wants to match-up against either Fury or Wilder? 3 words for him. Don't do it.

He just came back after a heartbreaking 2 straight loss against Usyk, and then he wants to fight champions like Wilder, and Fury? I mean he's a champion as well, but I doubt that he can defeat either of the 2. Even Wilder who has been known for his strong punches can be defeated against Joshua (at least at this time). Overall, I guess it would be better for him to fight other heavyweight boxers instead of challenging these 2, but if one of them materializes, then I will pick them over Joshua.
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Anthony Joshua (1.09) VS Jermaine Franklin (8.00) - ROUND 12 - DECISION - WIN
The odds say it for Anthony Joshua, it would have been disappointing and a shocker had the outcome of this fight be anything other than expected. But other than his victory, I feel the fight was a very average fight for a fighter like Joshua who we have seen better from in his early years. Had Joshua been more damaging with his right hand that we know is his most powerful hand, Maybe Franklin would have been knocked out, and that would have been a better come back statement for him.

With a win for Anthony Joshua, I wonder the fight that will come first for him, will it be Dillion Whyte or Fury?
Fury or Wilder. That's what he said in this clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqxvFsjzneU

I doubt it will be Fury who is next. Wilder might have a better chance to materialize. With that kind of performance which he himself is not happy about, he may want to think about the choices he will make and not just throw a challenge from the top in heavyweight.
We expect KOs in heavyweight matches and we didn't see it in his fight, he may want it but it didn't happen. So if I were him and his camp I'd pick those whom he can surely defeat just like what happened against Franklin. As you said, the odds say it all.

I very much agree. This latest victory from Joshua does not imply that he is again going to the top of boxing's heavyweight division. He has lost 2 times vs. Usyk who is really a cruiserweight. Similar to what you have said, between Fury and Wilder, it will be Wilder who might show an interest for a fight vs. Joshua. This will only be because Wilder can use Joshua's name as a turning point for his own career.
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Anthony Joshua (1.09) VS Jermaine Franklin (8.00) - ROUND 12 - DECISION - WIN
The odds say it for Anthony Joshua, it would have been disappointing and a shocker had the outcome of this fight be anything other than expected. But other than his victory, I feel the fight was a very average fight for a fighter like Joshua who we have seen better from in his early years. Had Joshua been more damaging with his right hand that we know is his most powerful hand, Maybe Franklin would have been knocked out, and that would have been a better come back statement for him.

With a win for Anthony Joshua, I wonder the fight that will come first for him, will it be Dillion Whyte or Fury?

Fury is going to eat him alive in the ring with that kind of performance, and Fury will demand a lot from him, maybe the split the Fury will asked is more than what he asked from Usyk (which Usyk and his handlers turn it down). So money wise for now, it might not be good for Joshua to go directly to Tyson Fury. He needs more tune up fights to bring back that old Joshua or at least some sparks in him as we have seen that the version of Joshua against Franklin is no where close to where when he started and knocking people out.

And he didn't make any statement in this win, just normal fight, but still good to see him take that important victory. Because if by chance he got upset by Franklin in this fight, he might not make a comeback or just be fighting bums again to get back on his feet. They should look for fighters like Arslanbek Makhmudov which is rank by WBC or has been mentioned, Whyte, which he defeated already, but good to see another all British fight.

Joshua is already boxing before Fury returns to the scene what more Joshua needs now, he is already boxing for 9 years already he has fought 28 times with 25 wins and 3 losses, the former undisputed champion doesn't need lengthy preparation all he needs is a good team to back him up and prepare him, if he needs 3 to 5 more fights, the scenario could be different, Fury could be retired then if you are really good at your craft and you once reached your high level then you need to prepare to face anyone, if he badly wants to be on top again its time to face Fury and challenge himself to prepare for that fight, a great boxer can always adjust at a minimum time, its part of a boxer's repertoire.
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Anthony Joshua (1.09) VS Jermaine Franklin (8.00) - ROUND 12 - DECISION - WIN
The odds say it for Anthony Joshua, it would have been disappointing and a shocker had the outcome of this fight be anything other than expected. But other than his victory, I feel the fight was a very average fight for a fighter like Joshua who we have seen better from in his early years. Had Joshua been more damaging with his right hand that we know is his most powerful hand, Maybe Franklin would have been knocked out, and that would have been a better come back statement for him.

With a win for Anthony Joshua, I wonder the fight that will come first for him, will it be Dillion Whyte or Fury?

Fury is going to eat him alive in the ring with that kind of performance, and Fury will demand a lot from him, maybe the split the Fury will asked is more than what he asked from Usyk (which Usyk and his handlers turn it down). So money wise for now, it might not be good for Joshua to go directly to Tyson Fury. He needs more tune up fights to bring back that old Joshua or at least some sparks in him as we have seen that the version of Joshua against Franklin is no where close to where when he started and knocking people out.

And he didn't make any statement in this win, just normal fight, but still good to see him take that important victory. Because if by chance he got upset by Franklin in this fight, he might not make a comeback or just be fighting bums again to get back on his feet. They should look for fighters like Arslanbek Makhmudov which is rank by WBC or has been mentioned, Whyte, which he defeated already, but good to see another all British fight.
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Joshua has longer arms, he got Franklin well, the first rounds of the fight were neat, in the seventh round Josh began to act more actively, but still I saw that he was trying not to spend a lot of energy. In the last rounds, it was clear that Franklin was tired, the extra weight clearly interfered with him. All that was left for Franklin at the end of the fight was to clinch, if Joshua had been more active he could have knocked out the opponent, but he seemed a little depressed to me.

He might be doubting his strength in this fight thankfully he won it and finally regain back his momentum. Now he needs to get back quickly in the ring but needs to prepare more and train more especially in his stamina and power because he could have finished the fight in the early rounds but he is lacking power and at this point of his career, he needs to focus on power because he can't always guarantee to reach the last rounds, especially in this weight division.
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Anthony Joshua (1.09) VS Jermaine Franklin (8.00) - ROUND 12 - DECISION - WIN
The odds say it for Anthony Joshua, it would have been disappointing and a shocker had the outcome of this fight be anything other than expected. But other than his victory, I feel the fight was a very average fight for a fighter like Joshua who we have seen better from in his early years. Had Joshua been more damaging with his right hand that we know is his most powerful hand, Maybe Franklin would have been knocked out, and that would have been a better come back statement for him.

With a win for Anthony Joshua, I wonder the fight that will come first for him, will it be Dillion Whyte or Fury?
Fury or Wilder. That's what he said in this clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqxvFsjzneU

I doubt it will be Fury who is next. Wilder might have a better chance to materialize. With that kind of performance which he himself is not happy about, he may want to think about the choices he will make and not just throw a challenge from the top in heavyweight.
We expect KOs in heavyweight matches and we didn't see it in his fight, he may want it but it didn't happen. So if I were him and his camp I'd pick those whom he can surely defeat just like what happened against Franklin. As you said, the odds say it all.
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Anthony Joshua (1.09) VS Jermaine Franklin (8.00) - ROUND 12 - DECISION - WIN
The odds say it for Anthony Joshua, it would have been disappointing and a shocker had the outcome of this fight be anything other than expected. But other than his victory, I feel the fight was a very average fight for a fighter like Joshua who we have seen better from in his early years. Had Joshua been more damaging with his right hand that we know is his most powerful hand, Maybe Franklin would have been knocked out, and that would have been a better come back statement for him.

With a win for Anthony Joshua, I wonder the fight that will come first for him, will it be Dillion Whyte or Fury?
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Here are the result of my picks it was really surprising winning the Parley like this and my intuition was right I have not included 3 fights because they don't have any odds in stake.com, so they are not included in stake, but I was really lucky to just go with the favorites,

MAIN EVENT

Anthony Joshua (1.09) VS Jermaine Franklin (8.00) - ROUND 12 - DECISION - WIN

CO-MAIN EVENT

Fabio Wardley (1.11) VS Michael Polite Coffie (7.20) - ROUND 4 - KO/TKO - WIN

MAIN CARD

Austin Williams (1.06 ) VS River Wilson-Bent (11.00) - ROUND 8 - KO/TKO - WIN
Campbell Hatton (1.07) VS Louis Fielding (9.80) - ROUND 1 - KO/TKO - WIN
Galal Yafai (1.08) VS Moises Calleros (8.40) - ROUND 4 - KO/TKO - WIN

PRELIMINARY CARD

John Hedges (1.05) VS Daniel Bocianski (12.00) - ROUND 8 - DECISION - WIN
Jordan Flynn (1.09) VS Kane Baker (8.20) - ROUND 8 - DECISION - WIN


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NOT INCLUDED IN THE PARLEY
Ziyad Al Maayouf VS Georgi Velichkov - ROUND 6 - DECISION - WIN
Peter Kadiru VS Alen Lauriolle - ROUND 1 - KO/TKO - WIN
Juergen Uldedaj VS Benoit Huber - ROUND 1 KO/TKO - LOST

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Wow! Another landslide win for you mate, it seems that you are not just lucky with the NBA games but in boxing fights as well. Congratulations!

Been following you on most games but in this event, I totally forgot about it and I only realized that the fight was already finished when I see some highlights on my feed. Darn! Could've put some few spares in-favor of Anthony Joshua as there was no way that Jermaine can upset him, scores says it all.

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Damn, i forgot to bet on this fight as I thought I could get up early. Joshua to win via decision @4.75 was on my mind and Joshua did win the fight by unanimous decision.

I have seen the tail end of the fight, Joshua imposing his jabs on the shorter Franklin which was the way to go. Though lot of clinching and hugging, it was still a good fight for Joshua but I don't think the latter could win against Fury or Usyk if he fight like that.

Joshua has longer arms, he got Franklin well, the first rounds of the fight were neat, in the seventh round Josh began to act more actively, but still I saw that he was trying not to spend a lot of energy. In the last rounds, it was clear that Franklin was tired, the extra weight clearly interfered with him. All that was left for Franklin at the end of the fight was to clinch, if Joshua had been more active he could have knocked out the opponent, but he seemed a little depressed to me.

Both of them have extra weight though, but Joshua has the experience in this fight and so he just stay in the pocket and try to win the fight via decision. Yeah, Joshua uses that jab to his advantage and to keep Franklin coming forward.

And I do agree that this version of Joshua might have a hard time against Usyk and Fury.

Congrats to those who ride on Joshua here, as the majority see it, went under the radar for most boxing fans in this forum.
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Damn, i forgot to bet on this fight as I thought I could get up early. Joshua to win via decision @4.75 was on my mind and Joshua did win the fight by unanimous decision.

I have seen the tail end of the fight, Joshua imposing his jabs on the shorter Franklin which was the way to go. Though lot of clinching and hugging, it was still a good fight for Joshua but I don't think the latter could win against Fury or Usyk if he fight like that.

Joshua has longer arms, he got Franklin well, the first rounds of the fight were neat, in the seventh round Josh began to act more actively, but still I saw that he was trying not to spend a lot of energy. In the last rounds, it was clear that Franklin was tired, the extra weight clearly interfered with him. All that was left for Franklin at the end of the fight was to clinch, if Joshua had been more active he could have knocked out the opponent, but he seemed a little depressed to me.
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Here are the result of my picks it was really surprising winning the Parley like this and my intuition was right I have not included 3 fights because they don't have any odds in stake.com, so they are not included in stake, but I was really lucky to just go with the favorites,

MAIN EVENT

Anthony Joshua (1.09) VS Jermaine Franklin (8.00) - ROUND 12 - DECISION - WIN

CO-MAIN EVENT

Fabio Wardley (1.11) VS Michael Polite Coffie (7.20) - ROUND 4 - KO/TKO - WIN

MAIN CARD

Austin Williams (1.06 ) VS River Wilson-Bent (11.00) - ROUND 8 - KO/TKO - WIN
Campbell Hatton (1.07) VS Louis Fielding (9.80) - ROUND 1 - KO/TKO - WIN
Galal Yafai (1.08) VS Moises Calleros (8.40) - ROUND 4 - KO/TKO - WIN

PRELIMINARY CARD

John Hedges (1.05) VS Daniel Bocianski (12.00) - ROUND 8 - DECISION - WIN
Jordan Flynn (1.09) VS Kane Baker (8.20) - ROUND 8 - DECISION - WIN


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NOT INCLUDED IN THE PARLEY
Ziyad Al Maayouf VS Georgi Velichkov - ROUND 6 - DECISION - WIN
Peter Kadiru VS Alen Lauriolle - ROUND 1 - KO/TKO - WIN
Juergen Uldedaj VS Benoit Huber - ROUND 1 KO/TKO - LOST

WOW! no more flappy bird captcha I was getting good at it and even though there are one failed because it needed 59 coins it was really horrendous, but overall I really enjoyed the April fools captcha event,
 
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^^There is also one fight that we haven't talking and it's Anthony Joshua vs Jermaine Franklin. Here's the official weigh-in,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0quLYVBNMs

And the fight is ongoing right now. Joshua is boxing good in the first 3 rounds and I would say that I give him 2 rounds out of 3.

Franklin did a better job in round 3 in avoiding Joshua's power punch and it seems his chin is holding on right now.

But let's see, too early yet and maybe the phase will pick up in the later rounds.

Damn, i forgot to bet on this fight as I thought I could get up early. Joshua to win via decision @4.75 was on my mind and Joshua did win the fight by unanimous decision.

I have seen the tail end of the fight, Joshua imposing his jabs on the shorter Franklin which was the way to go. Though lot of clinching and hugging, it was still a good fight for Joshua but I don't think the latter could win against Fury or Usyk if he fight like that.
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Joshua is not really happy about his victory. "No knockout, so no good." he said.
Here is the full post-fight interview shared by BBC.
https://twitter.com/5liveSport/status/1642342617500246016?s=20
When asked the reason why there was not a knockout that happened. Here is his answer.

I believe it is Franklin's chin. He is durable enough to withstand all of Joshua's punches. Plus, he may have thrown lesser punches so he should take a look at that.
It's an intense fight and even the cornermen of Franklin get frustrated that he pushes off Joshua.  Grin They should not do that. Let the ref handle it to avoid penalties.

Yeah, it went under the radar for most boxing fans, perhaps we are into the Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis or Loma vs Haney fight. Maybe we are waiting for the Usky vs Fury in this division and we forget that Joshua is making a comeback fight against Franklin.

Anyhow, Joshua wins in a decision, he I read that Franklins chin hasn't been crack before so Joshua punch might not have any effect of him.

Although Joshua used to be a big puncher before until he was defeated by Andy Ruiz and he was a change boxer. Still a win for him but not sure if there will be a change in the ranking as it is still Fury and Usyk at the top of the list.
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Ramirez vs Dogboe

Competitive first six rounds thus far but in my scorecard, Ramirez leads as he has landed the more telling blows.

Below is the link of the fight, don't know how long it will stay.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=search&v=1448173802384774

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Total domination by Ramirez here in the second half, Dogboe was too short for him while Ramirez' footwork was excellent. Though the winner is not announced yet but i think we have the new WBO Featherweight title holder here and his name is Robeisy Ramirez.
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^^There is also one fight that we haven't talking and it's Anthony Joshua vs Jermaine Franklin. Here's the official weigh-in,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0quLYVBNMs

And the fight is ongoing right now. Joshua is boxing good in the first 3 rounds and I would say that I give him 2 rounds out of 3.

Franklin did a better job in round 3 in avoiding Joshua's power punch and it seems his chin is holding on right now.

But let's see, too early yet and maybe the phase will pick up in the later rounds.

Damn, i forgot to bet on this fight as I thought I could get up early. Joshua to win via decision @4.75 was on my mind and Joshua did win the fight by unanimous decision.

I have seen the tail end of the fight, Joshua imposing his jabs on the shorter Franklin which was the way to go. Though lot of clinching and hugging, it was still a good fight for Joshua but I don't think the latter could win against Fury or Usyk if he fight like that.
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Joshua is not really happy about his victory. "No knockout, so no good." he said.
Here is the full post-fight interview shared by BBC.
https://twitter.com/5liveSport/status/1642342617500246016?s=20
When asked the reason why there was not a knockout that happened. Here is his answer.

I believe it is Franklin's chin. He is durable enough to withstand all of Joshua's punches. Plus, he may have thrown lesser punches so he should take a look at that.
It's an intense fight and even the cornermen of Franklin get frustrated that he pushes off Joshua.  Grin They should not do that. Let the ref handle it to avoid penalties.
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Many fans may not be interested in seeing a rematch between Canelo and Bivol due to the one-sided beatdown in their previous fight where Canelo was exposed.

I think that's the other way around. Many fans want to see that rematch because they are expecting a different version of Canelo here. Being destroyed by Bivol on their first meetup, Canelo fans want to see if a sweet revenge and comeback will now be able to execute by Canelo.

It just also makes sense that some fans want a rematch between Canelo and Bivol as that was an unfinished task by Canelo that he needed to pass. Not unless Bivol is not interested in any talks about the rematch, then no choice for some fans but to move on.

By some, you mean the minority? Because I really don't see that there's a lot of fans expect from Canelo's die-hard fans who are also wishing to see the rematch with the hopes that Canelo can somehow give a difference. I mean, that's just like wishing to see a Caleb-Canelo rematch, it just doesn't make sense anymore because it was a landslide victory.

Also, I think the rematch will probably be interesting enough and will get the people's attention if the rematch will be contested at 168 and not on 175 where Bivol is more dominant just like what we saw in their first fight. If ever this rematch will happen at 175, Canelo might've wanted to add another embarrassment to his career for the sake of money-fight.

Canelo is currently at the peak of his career. Chances of upsetting Bivol in the rematch is always possible. Canelo won't reach his current status if he doesn't know how to adjust. Bivol is on another level that's why it was advised that Canelo shouldn't pursue for a rematch right away but instead take some time and that's what happened.

Even Canelo will lose on the rematch, it's impossible that the same scene we saw on their first meeting will be shown by Canelo. Expect a changes of course regardless if the rematch will happened at 168 or 175.

And about the money and revenue? There's no problem with that as both boxer's name is already enough to attract more sales.
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