Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 130. (Read 31605 times)

Yeah, and that's why after reading the details I was kind of intrigued because honestly, this is really the first time I saw a clause like that. I guess we will just have to witness it before Ryan Garcia steps on the ring if there will be a weighing scale before he enters. 
It's almost like a punishment for a big boxer trying to cut weight for the weigh-ins and then avoiding rehydration just so he can still be in the range where the opponent requested it before the fight.
Now I know why the Tank's camp is avoiding Garcia for a long time. They are pondering what clause they will add to avoid losing the belt.
I think Ryan will have a big problem here if the fight will be long considering that clause.

"In general", that's not a considered bad side for me but rather just makes sense to happen especially weighing in terms of popularity or maybe tickets and PPV sales history. Referring to the mega bout between Davis and Garcia, I do think that anything related to the purse split isn't really a big concern. There is just part of the contract, outside the purse split concerns, that Garcia didn't want especially making some adjustments just for the fight to happen.

Regardless though, the boxing community should be thankful to both for pushing their fight and not taking another bout with other boxers even if "their surroundings" are telling them not to do that instead. One of the anticipated big fights this year will now be witnessed.

Yes, Davis says that Ryan is too big and can go over 150 lbs, and with that weight, it's going to be very hard to knock him down and at the same time could have more power and Davis is obviously afraid of it.

Nevertheless, what's funny about it is that their are already weight class, I mean a predetermined weight that this fighters are going to box. So it this is supposedly 135 lbs, they agree to 136 lbs, but then have rehydration clause? I think it defeat the purpose of having this weight category another when there is a cap.

It's the confidence of Garcia that is in full display here, although he doesn't like that Davis is dictating all the terms of the fight, but maybe in his mind, he knows that he can beat Davis easily.

And that is the bad side of boxing and negotiations, the B-side will also take the small pie and the disadvantage unless he pulls an upset win. And in this case, Garcia will be the obvious underdog, but for sure he will be a live underdog as what they say, meaning he has a good chance to win as well.

There is something that I have never liked about Mayweather, and he is a boxer who does not take risks like the others, I think he cares too much about his reputation and does not want to lose it, and I understand that but a boxer must take risks to be the best and retire as the best, I remember the fight against Pacquiao, he told him he didn't want revenge, I saw him as fearful.

I didn't find out about that fight, nor did I bother looking for news like that, but why? Since he chooses opponents that he knows he will beat easily, why doesn't he choose a difficult one? a famous? ah because he knows that he can lose, because he is not in his best shape, so these things bother me about Mayweather.

Well here things move differently, from what I see DAVIS ensures his fight with a clause to be able to have a rematch, it's not bad , but I insist, boxers should be clear that rematches are something normal that they should always do say yes, but what are they boxers for? most of them live off fame and the fame of what they sell , so what this does is makes the fans more eager for a rematch, it's the first thing they think of when a fight is over, so today's boxers in Day they only think about what they will win , it's not bad, but things should go further.

Davis is a popular fighter here, so most likely he got a high share and would dictate the terms of the fight. I guess Ryan Garcia really knows that, so he is giving that privilege to Davis now, and once he beats Tank Davis, then it will be his time to dictate the terms of the contract. I heard that there's a rematch clause for Davis if he loses, so that could result in a 2-0 in favor of Garcia, which will make him even more popular.

I didn't know there were too many demands from the champion's camp just so Ryan Garcia could fight him.
https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-i-definitely-put-boxing-first-accept-lotta-stipulations-davis-fight--172999
The second one was kind of intriguing. Maybe because Ryan Garcia is way too big and Davis' camp is preventing him to gain more power by being heavier when the fight starts. That's a good strategy and this is the first I have heard that it could be done. This means he will be weighed again before he enters the ring.
They didn't detail what other requests had been made but I like how Garcia is just trying to let the fight happen even if there are so many things that he has to accept.
This is good publicity for him too, he may pull some fans on his side for being the bullied one when it comes to the contract signing.

Even Eddie Hearn as well has confirmed that Canelo's next fight is indeed John Ryder, right now they are just finalizing the deal so that they can push through towards their projected date which is in May. It's not that surprising that Canelo will take this path because he surely knows what would be the consequence if he will pursue Bivol immediately after his surgery without taking a tune-up fight.

Yes, Bivol might likely fight Joshua Buatsi in the next few months while Canelo is still busy on his tune-up fight. Eddie Hearn have said that they might activate the rematch and have the fight happen in September, this year.

Hopefully, he will just retire for good. Even in that Murata fight, he looked too old and he was saved by his gifted powerful punch. He is already small at middleweight so at this stage of his career, it'll be scary for his health if he wants to continue fighting at 168. Maybe he can get an easy fight so he can retire with a win.

Time flies really fast. It seems like it was only a few years ago when GGG was then based in Germany just like his Universum stablemate Marco Maidana and then they entered the US and made a name for themselves. Such a very humble guy and is very straightforward with his goal which is to collect all the belts. Too bad he was exploited by boxing politics and was ducked for many years. Not sure if he can enter the International Boxing Hall of Fame but there is also a possibility knowing all his 2 defeats came from Canelo, a clear HOFer in the future. And he was clearly robbed in his first fight against Canelo. The 2nd fight was close and could go either way but it is very hard to win a decision against Canelo. Even Bivol and Mayweather nearly get robbed in spite of them taking Canelo to school. 

We can't argue with those numbers though, one thing for sure though is that McGregor has earn a lot throughout his career, and we don't know if he is going back again to fight in UFC or just in exhibition matches, in case any still + for him in the future.

True for Floyd, he is going to be included not just in boxing, but in all sports, with the huge money he has earn in his career.

Retired at 50-0. PPV numbers in top of the list for boxing.

Yeah, Floyd really uses his God given talent to make a lot of money out of boxing, fights like against Oscar Dela Hoya, Manny Pacquiao and Conor McGregor really put him way above any boxers in our generations with more than $1 Billion already.

Manny Pacquiao too, one of the biggest cash cows in his prime, make tons of money and if you are going to convert it to PH Peso, it's billion already, so one of the riches person in our country.

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And in boxing news, GGG vacated his  WBA Middleweight Title


https://www.boxingscene.com/gennadiy-golovkin-relinquishes-wba-middleweight-title-erislandy-lara-upgraded-full-titlist--172992

So GGG doesn't have any titles, as he also relinquishes his IBF belt.

And this open up a lot of speculations. Maybe he is going to retire for good, or go one last fight at 168 lbs?

It is John Ryder as we all have been speculating, even his manager says it's him. Maybe we are just waiting for the official announcement as when the fight is going to happen as they are waiting for Canelo's hand to heal 100%.

So John Ryder first for Canelo in his comeback, and maybe Bivol will also have a tune up fight this year because I hear that they are names already for his next fight as well, but I can't remember the name if it is Buatsi or someone.

That's a big payday for him and for sure until now he still enjoying that huge amount of paycheck after the exhibition match against Mayweather, though it surely place or being recognized as pro boxing event even it's only an exhibition but in terms of the amount that's very decent and even he will fight long inside UFC he won't earn that.

Speaking about Mayweather, we know the "Money" he will always be included as long as there are exhibition match that will be negotiated. He will make money in each fight that he will take.

Those digits are not from UFC alone because he did have a nice big payday when he agreed to fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. in a boxing fight, which I bet was his biggest payday in his entire career up to this point.
Although that certain fight was ruled as professional fight, McGregor cannot really defeat someone like Mayweather because UFC is very much different in boxing and the same thing will happen to Mayweather if he will face McGregor in the octagon.
About Mayweather Jr. though, the man will always be in the list and will always be included in the Top 10 as long as he will still have his exhibition fights.

He is on the list, number 33 in rankings with:

33   Conor McGregor   $615M   $530M

https://www.sportico.com/feature/highest-paid-athletes-all-time-1234711562/

So that is huge money for him throughout his career in UFC

For Canelo, no doubt, he did sign a massive contract when he severe his ties with Golden Boy and move to DAZN and it's like $300m if I'm not mistaken, and will have like 5 more fights in his career. And Floyd keeps making money with this exhibition matches in the last 3 years or so.

I wonder what number is Conor McGregor on that list, now I know that what you showed are only the boxers and their respective spots but I have no doubts whether if he's included in the list or not because on his fight with Mayweather Jr., he amassed at least a guaranteed $100 Million on that fight alone and he also claimed that he made a whooping $50 Million from his fight with Khabib.

Anyway, at least Canelo Alvarez made the cut because he is already not that active in the sport lately as his foes are now lesser because he already cleaned-up his division and then he got a surgery recently which affects the timeline of his fights.

I had always seen the manifesto of a boxer going up in category, because that gives more privilege, but going down in category is something that does not look very good, of course there are many things at stake, perhaps money is a great incentive, however If I wanted to see Bivol fight with Canelo again, I personally would like to see her, but it is preferable that Canelo go up in category than that the Russian has to go down, perhaps he would be minimizing his level, instead of me Bivol would seek to move up a category, since he represents more money and fights with higher level boxers, well maybe it is a radical way of thinking, but I consider that it is much better.


Well, in that I agree with you, Magsayo has a lot of potential, and although it sounds something very basic, Magsayo's mistake was not in his fight, he did everything very well, the obvious mistake was in his training because it can be seen that due to his performance could not do much, and I am 100% sure that it was due to lack of training harder, if a boxer trains to train and does not work on strength, speed and resistance it is very difficult for him to win, not even having a lot of talent can he win now As the body receives blows it becomes more exhausted, so for me hard training is essential.

Since the list includes a lot of boxers, I think it's worth a share here: Top 50 Highest-Paid Athletes of All Time.

It include, maybe some of the names are to be expected like Floyd and still the active Canelo Alvarez although he barely made the cut.

No. 8:   Floyd Mayweather: $1.41B; $1.11B
No. 16: Mike Tyson: $875M; $455M
No. 21: Manny Pacquiao: $725M; $560M
No. 24: George Foreman: $680M; $355M  
No. 27: Oscar De La Hoya: $665M; $410.3M
No. 38: Evander Holyfield: $600M; $310.2M
No. 48: Canelo Alvarez: $525M; $460M

And so if you have questions about the methodology,


https://www.sportico.com/personalities/athletes/2023/highest-paid-athletes-all-time-michael-jordan-1234711433/

That is the big question as of now and sadly, it might take a while before we can have any answers regarding the question whether the rematch of Bivol and Canelo will happen at 168 or 175.

And as per boxrec, Canelo Alvarez already have a fight scheduled this coming 6th of May. The information regarding the upcoming fight is not yet filled but people are already assuming that it will be John Ryder.

There are arguments to be made for the fight to take place at both weights, Canelo looked slow on the light heavyweight division so he may be interested on fighting Bivol on his division and beating him there, however as you said if he does this then he will not win another belt and he will only prove that he is the very best on his division, something we already knew, but if he were to lose on his home turf this will decrease his reputation in a significant way.