Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 131. (Read 27976 times)

Fighting for the title do have more money in stake, so I'm pretty sure him and his wife knows the value so why bother to take the risk if the income is not that much, and with the kind of opportunity he still have since he still in the top position that eligibility to challenge the champion is a good option.

Now that Inoue decided to move up, the vacant belt is now free for the qualified rank fighters, he will take his chance and make some decent amount of money while having that good chance to own the belt.

Adding to that, his plans were just focused on a title match. He didn't consider fighting again at the bottom.

He truly knows that fighting again at the bottom or a non-title fight doesn't make sense and it's good to just hang his gloves instead.

Both of his plans are title matches;

- returning to 115 lbs and facing the champion
- returning to 118 lbs if Inoue will move up and fight for the vacant title

Since he still sits at top of the rankings even after losing to Inoue, he is eligible for both.

Nobody is preventing him from having fun and even if he will push himself to the limit, it's his own decision because he's the only one who knows about the reaction of his body if he would spend another couple of years fighting. He still got a shot and I believe that he can still reign once more before hanging his gloves, which I also do think that's what he wanted to do too.

Yeah, and he can actually retire afterward if he wants to. It's a chance to claim the title again and tell the world he is still the strongest fighter in their weight class and the good part is, he won't be losing anything here. That's one of the sweet deals and what makes it sweeter is the money included.
Filipino fans would love a match that is more real than an exhibition match like what Manny did. There might be a lot of people who watched it by I doubt it's the same number as when he is fighting in professional leagues.
So take it, if he can, then leave it again for other boxers to claim, then he can live his luxurious life being retired. No pressure.

No one can stop him as long as there are people who still want to watch him. He is right, Inoue is just exceptional, he cannot beat him but he was able to give him a tough fight on their first meeting. Maybe now that Inoue is out on his division, Donaire surely thinks that his chance is very high of becoming a champion again.

I agree.

Let him do what makes him happy and he's a true boxer because his passion for the sport is never gone despite his most recent loss against the monster for the rematch that he has asked for.

Both camps are happy, Naoya will have a bout on May and then Donaire just need to wait a bit for the official fight.

Yes, as much as we advise and think who should retire and who should still fight, it's not really up to us. The boxer has the last to say obviously. They still have this one great fight, we have seen this to great fighter before. But sooner or later, maybe advise from their love ones or someone close to them and tell that it's time to give us boxing for good. And maybe that time will come to Donaire in his next fight for the belt against Moloney or whoever it is because there are news that this fight might be in jeopardy or something.

No one here can really understand because we are not in their place.

Aside from that, just let Donaire do what he wants. As I mentioned, he might didn't see yet his limitation due to the fact that he fought an unstoppable monster. We can see if he was still that fierce once he faced another boxer aside from Inoue.

Another thing, he was considered for that mandatory title fight. Who else doesn't want that opportunity even at that age?

Hopefully though that Arum will allow this one to happen and not just for Moloney to get the belt without fighting because it seems that they want to sidetrack Nonito. They have other fights in the past though, so I think this could still doable if only both sides are going to sit down and talk.

Perhaps Arum is just hiding with this reasons because he knows that it's a dangerous fight for Moloney even if Donaire is still declining and at the age wherein boxers are retired already. Let's still wait and hopefully the governing body will impose their will so that this fight is going to happen.

Many have been speculating about this possible meeting, but the truth does not cause me even the slightest bit of emotion, and it is true, due to Casimero's current state, it will almost not be given the required importance, of course, an Inoue that He has won his titles all the time, he is a respectable fighter, it causes a lot of euphoria to want to attend his fights, it is something that cannot be denied, however, it should be with another boxer, a boxer who provokes more emotions and or is expecting the media, personally if that fight takes place, I'm pretty sure that Inoue will have no problem beating him, I still don't see him with him, I prefer a bigger boxer.

It is a fact and that seems very good to me on Donaire's part, it is that he should never resign from his position in the CMB, and of course one of the things that he thinks about the most is age, although that is not an impediment, but since now they are giving more importance to them because he wants to see or give an image where age does not affect him at all, and that is something that he needs to fight now, I hope that things can be given to him faster and so nonito can give us a great surprise that hopefully it will be with a great victory, but everything is in the hands of the organizers and their sponsors, we have to wait because I don't think there is another way to speed it up.

There is no doubt that Donaire can put up a fight and much better on how he handled Inoue but talking about his performance against Inoue is a different matter and we all knew the result of it.

Now, we're just waiting for the actual announcement for the bout of these two while Inoue is already doing his thing on a higher division that he chosen to be.

He wants to happen it as soon as possible but it's still going to depend on how Moloney is going to like and approve it. But with such, we have to wait for the announcement on the development of this possible match.

Regarding this potential bout between Donaire and Moloney, here's an article for you guys.

Donaire Sends Notice To Team Moloney On Title Bid

Donaire is making a stand that he is still interested in fighting for the WBC title that Inoue vacated recently. In the same article, Donaire also revealed that his camp and Moloney's aren't yet getting into discussions and that he's waiting for somebody to give him a call so that a bout will soon be happening.

I understand Donaire's urgency because he doesn't have the time in his side as he's already 40 years old, he might be strong and agile in his age but he knows that father time will be catch up to him anytime soon, so he does want a fight already before any of that happens.

No doubt with that.

We can have that pattern from the first time he lost against Inoue and then recalls for a rematch and still lost against the monster. If there's a possibility of a third rematch, only if he just won the 2nd rematch then for sure that there will be the 3rd match to prove on who's actually stronger.

But that has ended that speculation because he lost against the monster. If Donaire is still able to fight, no one can stop him, his body - his rules.

Yup, his handler is his wife so if there's someone who knows the best in terms of physical/health, for sure she, as a partner in real life can say whether Donaire is still fit and he is not risking his health once he accept this fight. The vacant belt will be in a mandatory fight and good thing that Donaire is still one of the top seed to have that opportunity to own the title.

Hopefully, he will win and he will bring another title to the country after losing it to Inoue way back.

I think him going to 115 lbs as his plan in the beginning is obviously to get another belt under his waist, that's why he is looking for Juan Francisco Estrada as his best ticket for that.

But as we all know, Inoue no longer wants to fight at 118 lbs, so all the plans of Donaire were scratch.

Now he is back at 118 lbs and looking for at least one belt against Moloney, but seems there is a hindrance for that one.

Yeah, correct. I guess his corner can also sum up how far the difference will be when he fights against other boxers.
One last dance, or maybe two or three. He can still come back if he thinks it's a close fight and his game is not yet fading to the extent of deciding to retire earlier. That's why I think this is a good fight for him, it will answer a lot of things.

But it's mandatory. Again, this is where I get confused with the rankings of boxers when someone leaves their title hanging.
I mean, shouldn't it be even if Arum doesn't want to work with them, there is no choice but to let it play out? That's what I know when it comes to mandatory fights, their own businesses should be out of the question.

Sometimes it's the pride of a boxer that keeps him fighting, he can't admit that he is no longer in his prime and the best days of his fighting is over. So there will be times that he still wanted to box and proved something eventhough he is already in the age wherein he should retire.

So let's see for Donaire, the going thing is that he is being offered another opportunity for the vacate belt so definitely he will take it.

And don't forget that his manager is her wife, so she knows better when to advise his husband to quit for good.

I cannot understand why a 40-year-old person still insists on boxing, do these trainers not see that he is already too old? Could it be that their trainer, his physical trainer don't realize that Donaire is old? I keep asking myself the following: if Donaire is fighting for the money then why doesn't he retire and fight in these exhibition fights? because in exhibition fights he won't wear out his body and consequently wouldn't wear out his health


a good athlete needs to know when to retire, when the athlete is insistent and does not know when to retire he runs the rich life, starts to put his health and life at risk and something that can happen is that the athlete keeps accumulating defeats and retires with frustration, that frustration will haunt him for years, the guy becomes a bitter person

I agree Donaire has a good chance against Moloney, but here's the thing, Moloney is being promoted by Top Rank, and Donaire under Richard Schaefer, his  Probellum company.

However, Arum says that he doesn't want to work with Probellum because according to him, it has ties with Irish crime lord Daniel Kinahan, who was sanctioned by the U.S. Department of Treasury. So that makes things complicated again and we don't know if we will see this mandatory fight this year or how will the sanctioning body goes with their number 1 and number 2 contender for the vacate title if their promoters refused to work with each other.

Floating but confirmed official since the conditions were unlocked which is Naoya Inoue moving up a weight.

I believed Donaire should be able to handle Moloney as the former already experienced a difficult fight in his career, which is facing Inoue.

Remember that Donaire is the first one to put Inoue on a verge of losing that's why I'm sure he can handle other boxers in the bantamweight now that Inoue is out of sight and no more tough opponent is left in that division for him.