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I thought Beterbiev wanted to fight Bivol as well? He even goes to the public and says that he wanted to unify,  but maybe Bob Arum doesn't want to as this point and let Beterbiev enjoy his win against Yarde. But I do believed sooner or later they are going to face each other in the future. And then Bivol going for Canelo's belt at 168 lbs.
It's unclear lol, if you search on google you will find the article where Beterbiev don't want to fight with Bivol and the other article said Beterbiev want to fight with Bivol. However I don't think Canelo will accept to have a rematch with Bivol at 168 lbs because will think what's the point if I win and didn't get anything? I believe the rematch will be at light heavyweight division, but they will offer higher payment to Bivol.

Well the truth is, the governing bodies are not allowing Dmitry Bivol to proceed with the fight against Beterbiev where there are indeed so much at stake including the fact that he might reign as the undisputed champion at 175 not because they don't like Bivol but because of the current crisis up North.

Even before this fight talks about the unification commenced, almost every sport including the boxing industry is putting heavy pressures to any Russian athletes because of what their president did when they invade the Ukraine last February of 2022 and up until now, Putin is still advancing.

Anyway, this fight may happen though but it cannot be labeled as unification fight anymore as what I've said above, the governing bodies will not allow it.
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Donaire will ask for 60% of the purse and the fight will stall. He is using his position to demand more money but I think it is because he is scared of losing and does not want that on his record close to his retirement and if he takes the fight he will want a lot of money for the risk. He could just schedule 2/3 lower profile fights and end his career and I think that will happen because there is no way his opponents will accept 30-40% of the purse to fight him.

Hmm, Donaire scared of losing at this point in his career? I really doubt that.

If he does, then we shouldn't see him having a rematch with Naoya Inoue where he already knows how dominant the monster is during their first meetup even suffering a fatal blow from him but still ended with Inoue winning a "unanimous decision".

Using his position to demand more money? The WBC assigned his next scheduled fight for the vacant WBC Bantamweight title which does make sense because he's the current Rank 1 on WBC's bantamweight rankings and regardless of the split, it will be pushed through.
Both Moloney and Donaire are not scared to face each other, both faced Inoue knowing they were underdogs and were expected to get KO'd. When the WBC announced both fighters to face each other, team Moloney in Australia was interviewed and they were very excited about the fight and are hoping that they can bring the fight to Australia. I haven't heard nor read Donaire's reaction to the announcement but there is no way that he is scared of Moloney too. It was Bob Arum, the promoter of Moloney that issued the statement that they no longer want to pursue the WBC belt saying they do not want to get involved with Probellum (Donaire's promoter) after it was linked to the Kinahans (a powerful Irish mob wanted in the US). Whether Arum is just using an alibi (he's been linked with the Kinahans too) or not, the cancellation was not because of Moloney or Donaire. I believe Arum realized that the WBO route is far easier for Moloney to become a champion.   

With regard to the purse split. Isn't it 50/50 when it is for a vacant belt? Unless a deal is reached to avoid a purse bid. So I doubt Donaire demanded the bigger purse. Unless Probellum can offer a satisfying offer to Santiago to prevent a purse bid which would probably guarantee a bigger purse for Donaire since he is obviously the bigger market of the two.

Yes, I've read that too where Bob Arum doesn't like to be in a business with Probellum's top brass, Schaefer, but I doubt that it is one of the major reasons why the Moloney-Donaire fight didn't materalize. In one article, it was Moloney's camp who decided not pursue the fight with Donaire and later on, it was Bob Arum who announced it as he is the promoter of Moloney but back then it wasn't known at first that they are targeting a different belt. Which rises some speculations that Moloney might ducked Donaire in-order to have a much less risky fight.

Top Rank and Probellum wasn't the key factor why the fight didn't happen because a certain match (Inoue-Butler unification fight) already happened just recently despite Schaefer's issue. And now Top Rank is hiding behind that excuse? Too shallow.
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I thought Beterbiev wanted to fight Bivol as well? He even goes to the public and says that he wanted to unify,  but maybe Bob Arum doesn't want to as this point and let Beterbiev enjoy his win against Yarde. But I do believed sooner or later they are going to face each other in the future. And then Bivol going for Canelo's belt at 168 lbs.
It's unclear lol, if you search on google you will find the article where Beterbiev don't want to fight with Bivol and the other article said Beterbiev want to fight with Bivol. However I don't think Canelo will accept to have a rematch with Bivol at 168 lbs because will think what's the point if I win and didn't get anything? I believe the rematch will be at light heavyweight division, but they will offer higher payment to Bivol.

Same with the rematch mate, we really can't say if it is a done deal with 168 lbs or 175 lbs. There were interviews through Eddie Hearn that says Bivol wanted to go down or willing at least to try 168 lbs as long as Canelo is going to put his SMW belt. But there's article also pointing out that Bivol wanted the rematch at 175 lbs because that's where he beat Canelo. So right now the picture is not clear yet. Maybe Canelo wanted a tune up fight with Ryder this year and then made his decision next for a Bivol rematch. He is still the A-side and most likely will call the shots even if he loss the first time against Bivol.
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That was a good fight anyway. Everyone thought Magsayo is gonna win with a TKO judging on the early rounds where he landed good punches on Figueroa. However, Figueroa just showed what a good stamina and a good chin can do to last the fight and redeem yourself on the later rounds when your opponent is exhausted. Figueroa absorbed a lot of power punches, but didn't even get stunned. Magsayo on the other hand, got exhausted on the later rounds that resulted on a 2 point deduction due to holding. If he did not do that, he might have kissed the canvass already.
Well, that's how it is and the result should be. That was still a good fight.

He still needs to train more to get his stamina up, this is pretty much clear Mark Magsayo has done a pretty good job but not an excellent one because he still left Brandon Figueroa wins the fight, but yeah that stamina depletion is a real problem for Magsayo and his camp will need to look in it even further and access magsayo's stamina



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Promotion: Matchroom Boxing
Location: Liverpool, Merseyside



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Rhiannon Dixon, VS Vicky Wilkinson
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Donaire will ask for 60% of the purse and the fight will stall. He is using his position to demand more money but I think it is because he is scared of losing and does not want that on his record close to his retirement and if he takes the fight he will want a lot of money for the risk. He could just schedule 2/3 lower profile fights and end his career and I think that will happen because there is no way his opponents will accept 30-40% of the purse to fight him.

Hmm, Donaire scared of losing at this point in his career? I really doubt that.

If he does, then we shouldn't see him having a rematch with Naoya Inoue where he already knows how dominant the monster is during their first meetup even suffering a fatal blow from him but still ended with Inoue winning a "unanimous decision".

Using his position to demand more money? The WBC assigned his next scheduled fight for the vacant WBC Bantamweight title which does make sense because he's the current Rank 1 on WBC's bantamweight rankings and regardless of the split, it will be pushed through.
Both Moloney and Donaire are not scared to face each other, both faced Inoue knowing they were underdogs and were expected to get KO'd. When the WBC announced both fighters to face each other, team Moloney in Australia was interviewed and they were very excited about the fight and are hoping that they can bring the fight to Australia. I haven't heard nor read Donaire's reaction to the announcement but there is no way that he is scared of Moloney too. It was Bob Arum, the promoter of Moloney that issued the statement that they no longer want to pursue the WBC belt saying they do not want to get involved with Probellum (Donaire's promoter) after it was linked to the Kinahans (a powerful Irish mob wanted in the US). Whether Arum is just using an alibi (he's been linked with the Kinahans too) or not, the cancellation was not because of Moloney or Donaire. I believe Arum realized that the WBO route is far easier for Moloney to become a champion.   

With regard to the purse split. Isn't it 50/50 when it is for a vacant belt? Unless a deal is reached to avoid a purse bid. So I doubt Donaire demanded the bigger purse. Unless Probellum can offer a satisfying offer to Santiago to prevent a purse bid which would probably guarantee a bigger purse for Donaire since he is obviously the bigger market of the two.

I see, I don't know that but yes I believe that Moloney nor Donaire is not afraid to face each other, it might a good fight between the two if Arum didn't announce that they are no longer interested to proceed with that negotiation, I see the point maybe Arum see some more money with the other route and knowing him, he will go where the money is flowing.

For now, let's wait for the upcoming fight with those belts that Inoue left and see who are the new champ that will win the title.
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Donaire will ask for 60% of the purse and the fight will stall. He is using his position to demand more money but I think it is because he is scared of losing and does not want that on his record close to his retirement and if he takes the fight he will want a lot of money for the risk. He could just schedule 2/3 lower profile fights and end his career and I think that will happen because there is no way his opponents will accept 30-40% of the purse to fight him.

Hmm, Donaire scared of losing at this point in his career? I really doubt that.

If he does, then we shouldn't see him having a rematch with Naoya Inoue where he already knows how dominant the monster is during their first meetup even suffering a fatal blow from him but still ended with Inoue winning a "unanimous decision".

Using his position to demand more money? The WBC assigned his next scheduled fight for the vacant WBC Bantamweight title which does make sense because he's the current Rank 1 on WBC's bantamweight rankings and regardless of the split, it will be pushed through.
Both Moloney and Donaire are not scared to face each other, both faced Inoue knowing they were underdogs and were expected to get KO'd. When the WBC announced both fighters to face each other, team Moloney in Australia was interviewed and they were very excited about the fight and are hoping that they can bring the fight to Australia. I haven't heard nor read Donaire's reaction to the announcement but there is no way that he is scared of Moloney too. It was Bob Arum, the promoter of Moloney that issued the statement that they no longer want to pursue the WBC belt saying they do not want to get involved with Probellum (Donaire's promoter) after it was linked to the Kinahans (a powerful Irish mob wanted in the US). Whether Arum is just using an alibi (he's been linked with the Kinahans too) or not, the cancellation was not because of Moloney or Donaire. I believe Arum realized that the WBO route is far easier for Moloney to become a champion.   

With regard to the purse split. Isn't it 50/50 when it is for a vacant belt? Unless a deal is reached to avoid a purse bid. So I doubt Donaire demanded the bigger purse. Unless Probellum can offer a satisfying offer to Santiago to prevent a purse bid which would probably guarantee a bigger purse for Donaire since he is obviously the bigger market of the two.
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I thought Beterbiev wanted to fight Bivol as well? He even goes to the public and says that he wanted to unify,  but maybe Bob Arum doesn't want to as this point and let Beterbiev enjoy his win against Yarde. But I do believed sooner or later they are going to face each other in the future. And then Bivol going for Canelo's belt at 168 lbs.
It's unclear lol, if you search on google you will find the article where Beterbiev don't want to fight with Bivol and the other article said Beterbiev want to fight with Bivol. However I don't think Canelo will accept to have a rematch with Bivol at 168 lbs because will think what's the point if I win and didn't get anything? I believe the rematch will be at light heavyweight division, but they will offer higher payment to Bivol.
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Mark Magsayo lost again in a crucial fight for a belt, it is true no Filipino boxer right now doesn't have a belt, and it is really frustrating but at the same time feel's OK about it at the same time, but Here are the result of my picks

That was a good fight anyway. Everyone thought Magsayo is gonna win with a TKO judging on the early rounds where he landed good punches on Figueroa. However, Figueroa just showed what a good stamina and a good chin can do to last the fight and redeem yourself on the later rounds when your opponent is exhausted. Figueroa absorbed a lot of power punches, but didn't even get stunned. Magsayo on the other hand, got exhausted on the later rounds that resulted on a 2 point deduction due to holding. If he did not do that, he might have kissed the canvass already.
Well, that's how it is and the result should be. That was still a good fight.

Yes, it was Magsayo on the first half of the fight and then Figueroa took the second half specially in the championship rounds as Magsayo shows his weakness again, he runs out of gas in that fight, he as so tired that he just want to survived. But the score though, even if there is a 2 point deduction, it should be very close and when you look at the score, it seems that it was a domination by Figueroa but it is not. Anyhow, he is still very young, and make just a few tweaks on his training, he can be a world champion again.
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^ Yes, Eddie Hearn wanted a Bivol vs Beterbiev and so is Bob Arum, so let's see how they are going to work it out.

Its just for now it's complicated as Bivol is targeting Canelo as well, either 168 or 175 lbs. And then Callum Smith is also coming into the horizon and also looking for a big payday against Beterbiev. We wait how the Smith vs Stepien result will be though, if he wins maybe Bivol is willing to fight him instead of waiting for Bivol.
Time is running out on Beterbiev though, I mean he is not getting any younger, if in two years, he didn't get Bivol it might be too late when the are going to face in the future and it might not be the fight that we are expecting for.

And so we might not see the unification fight in my opinion.

And they will have to go on their separate fight, Bivol vs Buatsi, Beterbiev vs Smith.

True, Beterbiev should not waste any more time as his power may slowly decline once he turns 40. I would like to see him have one more fight before a unification bout with Bivol, and after that, he can think about retiring if he fails. Speaking of Bivol, when do you think Canelo will have his rematch with Bivol?

According to some news articles Bivol wants to unify the championships in his own division first before a rematch against Canelo. However, it appears Beterbiev does not want to fight Bivol. There are also other articles that Bivol vs. Beterbiev might occur on June.

My speculation is if Bivol cannot fight Beterbiev, he might be forced to accept a money deal for a rematch against Canelo on September.

I thought Beterbiev wanted to fight Bivol as well? He even goes to the public and says that he wanted to unify,  but maybe Bob Arum doesn't want to as this point and let Beterbiev enjoy his win against Yarde. But I do believed sooner or later they are going to face each other in the future. And then Bivol going for Canelo's belt at 168 lbs.
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Mark Magsayo lost again in a crucial fight for a belt, it is true no Filipino boxer right now doesn't have a belt, and it is really frustrating but at the same time feel's OK about it at the same time, but Here are the result of my picks

That was a good fight anyway. Everyone thought Magsayo is gonna win with a TKO judging on the early rounds where he landed good punches on Figueroa. However, Figueroa just showed what a good stamina and a good chin can do to last the fight and redeem yourself on the later rounds when your opponent is exhausted. Figueroa absorbed a lot of power punches, but didn't even get stunned. Magsayo on the other hand, got exhausted on the later rounds that resulted on a 2 point deduction due to holding. If he did not do that, he might have kissed the canvass already.
Well, that's how it is and the result should be. That was still a good fight.
He was shaken a couple of times but he just smiled at it. That's how hard his chin is because he can just absorb it in just a short amount of time.

Anyway, as for Filipino boxers, aside from Nonito Donaire's upcoming match I have not heard any recent news/schedule about the other two who will be fighting for major titles. Gaballo and Vincent Astrolabio. Please do share if you sniffed some updates about it.

The next big one will be in the featherweight division. Number 1 Isaac Dogboe versus number 2 Robeisy Ramirez will be fighting for the vacant WBO belt. The one left by Emanuel Navarrete. April 1.
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Donaire will ask for 60% of the purse and the fight will stall. He is using his position to demand more money but I think it is because he is scared of losing and does not want that on his record close to his retirement and if he takes the fight he will want a lot of money for the risk. He could just schedule 2/3 lower profile fights and end his career and I think that will happen because there is no way his opponents will accept 30-40% of the purse to fight him.

Hmm, Donaire scared of losing at this point in his career? I really doubt that.

If he does, then we shouldn't see him having a rematch with Naoya Inoue where he already knows how dominant the monster is during their first meetup even suffering a fatal blow from him but still ended with Inoue winning a "unanimous decision".

Using his position to demand more money? The WBC assigned his next scheduled fight for the vacant WBC Bantamweight title which does make sense because he's the current Rank 1 on WBC's bantamweight rankings and regardless of the split, it will be pushed through.
and also being a Boxer that has his Belt ? I think there is no room for being scared because if they do? then surely they have left the boxing area already or never step on it from the beginning.
and that rematch is already given that Japanese monster will again dominate the fight but Nonito come to fight him again for a chance of changing the part 2.
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Mark Magsayo lost again in a crucial fight for a belt, it is true no Filipino boxer right now doesn't have a belt, and it is really frustrating but at the same time feel's OK about it at the same time, but Here are the result of my picks

That was a good fight anyway. Everyone thought Magsayo is gonna win with a TKO judging on the early rounds where he landed good punches on Figueroa. However, Figueroa just showed what a good stamina and a good chin can do to last the fight and redeem yourself on the later rounds when your opponent is exhausted. Figueroa absorbed a lot of power punches, but didn't even get stunned. Magsayo on the other hand, got exhausted on the later rounds that resulted on a 2 point deduction due to holding. If he did not do that, he might have kissed the canvass already.
Well, that's how it is and the result should be. That was still a good fight.
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^ Yes, Eddie Hearn wanted a Bivol vs Beterbiev and so is Bob Arum, so let's see how they are going to work it out.

Its just for now it's complicated as Bivol is targeting Canelo as well, either 168 or 175 lbs. And then Callum Smith is also coming into the horizon and also looking for a big payday against Beterbiev. We wait how the Smith vs Stepien result will be though, if he wins maybe Bivol is willing to fight him instead of waiting for Bivol.
Time is running out on Beterbiev though, I mean he is not getting any younger, if in two years, he didn't get Bivol it might be too late when the are going to face in the future and it might not be the fight that we are expecting for.

And so we might not see the unification fight in my opinion.

And they will have to go on their separate fight, Bivol vs Buatsi, Beterbiev vs Smith.

True, Beterbiev should not waste any more time as his power may slowly decline once he turns 40. I would like to see him have one more fight before a unification bout with Bivol, and after that, he can think about retiring if he fails. Speaking of Bivol, when do you think Canelo will have his rematch with Bivol?

According to some news articles Bivol wants to unify the championships in his own division first before a rematch against Canelo. However, it appears Beterbiev does not want to fight Bivol. There are also other articles that Bivol vs. Beterbiev might occur on June.

My speculation is if Bivol cannot fight Beterbiev, he might be forced to accept a money deal for a rematch against Canelo on September.
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^ Yes, Eddie Hearn wanted a Bivol vs Beterbiev and so is Bob Arum, so let's see how they are going to work it out.

Its just for now it's complicated as Bivol is targeting Canelo as well, either 168 or 175 lbs. And then Callum Smith is also coming into the horizon and also looking for a big payday against Beterbiev. We wait how the Smith vs Stepien result will be though, if he wins maybe Bivol is willing to fight him instead of waiting for Bivol.
Time is running out on Beterbiev though, I mean he is not getting any younger, if in two years, he didn't get Bivol it might be too late when the are going to face in the future and it might not be the fight that we are expecting for.

And so we might not see the unification fight in my opinion.

And they will have to go on their separate fight, Bivol vs Buatsi, Beterbiev vs Smith.

True, Beterbiev should not waste any more time as his power may slowly decline once he turns 40. I would like to see him have one more fight before a unification bout with Bivol, and after that, he can think about retiring if he fails. Speaking of Bivol, when do you think Canelo will have his rematch with Bivol?

Well, it is true that Beterbiev will be older, it is inevitable, but this is boxing, not football, a veteran boxer is very dangerous, and can make a difference with a young one, besides, Beterbiev is from the old school, he knows how to handle his time and knows very well when to give the maximum of his body, he is in control and that is something that I admire, in boxing intelligence must be applied a lot, on the other hand with Bivol and Canelo I don't know, I know that this clause is there, but Canelo, despite having a delicate hand, is still looking for more? He should take more care of himself, I don't know, sometimes a boxer exposes his health a lot. 

For now, that's not going to happen because both mentioned boxers are campaigning for a different belt, WBO for Moloney and WBC for Donaire but yes, maybe in the future, fate will make these two boxers collide with each other so that we can see who's who and which is which. But it's worth to note that Moloney declined the WBC's offer because he is facing Donaire, so that already means something and maybe he will duck again sometime soon until Donaire will retire.
Donaire will ask for 60% of the purse and the fight will stall. He is using his position to demand more money but I think it is because he is scared of losing and does not want that on his record close to his retirement and if he takes the fight he will want a lot of money for the risk. He could just schedule 2/3 lower profile fights and end his career and I think that will happen because there is no way his opponents will accept 30-40% of the purse to fight him.
He'll choose to what he thinks is right and fit as Donaire is close to retirement or it's like the last call and whatever the results will be, he's out but will be taking out all of the money that he's asked for the split share.
There's some pride on his name and that's why he'll choose those that has got name already but I do agree that if he really wants to fight, he can choose those low profile fighters.
But then, I guess there's this pride involve on him and that's why before he closes his doors to the sport that he loved and chose as his path, he want to make it remarkable.

Well in itself, boxers currently worry a lot about their income, the belts should be the only reason they should worry about, I know that at a professional level things seem more focused on money, but since they are boxers who have some Reputation and fame should fight, Moloney, on the other hand, should accept the fight with Donaire because what they say on social media is one thing, but another very different thing is that they have to fight for pleasure, because they want revenge, that's what they should keep in mind, do not miss that rivalry to say who is the best.
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We have 1 I believed and that is Melvin Jerusalem who won against the Masataka Taniguchi in Japan last January for the Minimumweight/Mini-Flyweight   105 lbs. And it was thought to be a good start for the Filipinos, unfortunately Mark lost again for the interim belt against Brandon Figueroa. But hopefully we can add another one or even two if Vincent Astrolabio or Nonito Donaire can with their respective championship match in the bantamweight division. We just had a drought actually, but for sure we will come back strong and bounce before the end of the year.

As for the lost of Jared Hurd against hard hitting Armando Reséndiz, I think it's enough for him though, long layoff, ring rust could attributed to his lost. But I think he doesn't have that that "thing" anymore to fight. Or if there is anything on that fight, Hurd seems to be out of his prime, poor defense, trying to do the shoulder roll which is not effective for him because he doesn't have the reflex anymore so it's hard to pull that style to a more quicker Reséndiz. One thing against Reséndiz in my opinion is that he is too small for 160 lbs.

Oh yes, I forgot that Melvin Jerusalem got the WBO mini-flyweight title and it was on January 6, I guess I don't remember because it was just a mini-flyweight title for the WBO but still a belt is still a belt that he brought for the country, while Mark Magsayo lost again and just like I thought his opponent Brandon Figueroa was really good and because of that added height and reach advantage Mark Magsayo is having a hard time, and yes waiting for the Vincent Astrolabio or Nonito Donaire fight that would be a good one to have,

Well, this is a sign for I think it was Jarrett Hurd, he needs to quit boxing but because he still wants a good last record in his career that is why he keeps on fighting, and every boxer wants a good record in their legacy, he got a smooth sailing 23 winning streak and then would lose to Julian Williams well Armando Reséndiz just created angles to make an opening to Jarrett Hurd's face,

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Unfortunately, there's no definite time for how long PH will wait for another Pacman 2.0 wannabee that can be close to having the same achievement.

To be honest, even Casimero is still far from achieving another belt I still hoping that he will come back on that position, giving that opportunity I'm pretty sure that Casimero will not waste anything and he will prove that he's name should be on top the way it was when he still in his last division.

A Pacman 2.0? seems that with the current competitions, it's tough to earn that respect the way Pacquiao has when he's still actively fighting.

Not closing the door, but the chance for any Pinoy champ to achieve that is really slim.

Pacquiao is unique as it's rare to see a PH boxer dominating the Welterweight Division and able to keep up in the Light Welterweight. It's not about PH boxers who should experience the same as Pacquiao did but maybe the point here is, a consistent champion that truly can dominate a certain division.

One of the best examples of that is, Gabriel "Flash" Elorde who dominates the Featherweight Division for 7 years and 2 months with 10 successful title defenses. Another one is, Nonito Donaire Jr. who becomes a world champion across three consecutive decades: the 2000s, 2010s, and 2020s, and is the oldest world title holder at the age of 39 when he beat Nordine Ouballi.

Mark Magsayo, as he was being discussed above, should take this losing experience to come back stronger next time. Pacquiao also loses on his career but was always able to come back stronger because of his serious approach to winning the next time he enters the ring.
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But hopefully we can add another one or even two if Vincent Astrolabio or Nonito Donaire can with their respective championship match in the bantamweight division. We just had a drought actually, but for sure we will come back strong and bounce before the end of the year.

If I'm not mistaken, it's only Vincent Astrolabio right now who's currently in their prime as a PH boxer that is close to having a shot at the world title right now with his upcoming fight against Emmanuel Rodriguez. Reymart Gaballo is another one that has the chance for a title match as long as he continues winning his next fights, probably against Nawaphon Kaikanha.

Nonito Donaire might also become a champion again but since he's already on the verge of retirement, expect that he won't hold the title for long. John Riel Casimero on the other hand is still looking for good fights as he's working his way up to the top rankings.

Unfortunately, there's no definite time for how long PH will wait for another Pacman 2.0 wannabee that can be close to having the same achievement.

Boxer like Manny Pacquiao is really rare, probably they appear once in every century.  Aside from that, I think the promoter also has something to do with Manny  Pacquiao's greatness.  Since they are the one organizing the fight.


Unfortunately, there's no definite time for how long PH will wait for another Pacman 2.0 wannabee that can be close to having the same achievement.

To be honest, even Casimero is still far from achieving another belt I still hoping that he will come back on that position, giving that opportunity I'm pretty sure that Casimero will not waste anything and he will prove that he's name should be on top the way it was when he still in his last division.

A Pacman 2.0? seems that with the current competitions, it's tough to earn that respect the way Pacquiao has when he's still actively fighting.

Not closing the door, but the chance for any Pinoy champ to achieve that is really slim.

I agree that Casimero can't be compare to Manny Pacquiao, and also, he is far from having a title fight in his division since he just fought once.  It is just sad to think that Casimero is also nearing his decline.  Just two or three years, Casimero won't be on his prime anymore.
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Unfortunately, there's no definite time for how long PH will wait for another Pacman 2.0 wannabee that can be close to having the same achievement.

To be honest, even Casimero is still far from achieving another belt I still hoping that he will come back on that position, giving that opportunity I'm pretty sure that Casimero will not waste anything and he will prove that he's name should be on top the way it was when he still in his last division.

A Pacman 2.0? seems that with the current competitions, it's tough to earn that respect the way Pacquiao has when he's still actively fighting.

Not closing the door, but the chance for any Pinoy champ to achieve that is really slim.

i guess the difference why the current filipino boxers can't attain what pacquiao achieved is the discipline. he was really determined to win every fight so the training he was subjected to was really intense and serious. whereas, these young boxers always have other issues like not achieving the required weight or not fully prepared. just look at casimero, how many times he had the weight problem? so am saying up until these boxers get serious about this sports, and don't let any detail derail them from fighting, they won't achieve even half of what pacquiao achieved on this sports. just sayin'
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Unfortunately, there's no definite time for how long PH will wait for another Pacman 2.0 wannabee that can be close to having the same achievement.

To be honest, even Casimero is still far from achieving another belt I still hoping that he will come back on that position, giving that opportunity I'm pretty sure that Casimero will not waste anything and he will prove that he's name should be on top the way it was when he still in his last division.

A Pacman 2.0? seems that with the current competitions, it's tough to earn that respect the way Pacquiao has when he's still actively fighting.

Not closing the door, but the chance for any Pinoy champ to achieve that is really slim.
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But hopefully we can add another one or even two if Vincent Astrolabio or Nonito Donaire can with their respective championship match in the bantamweight division. We just had a drought actually, but for sure we will come back strong and bounce before the end of the year.

If I'm not mistaken, it's only Vincent Astrolabio right now who's currently in their prime as a PH boxer that is close to having a shot at the world title right now with his upcoming fight against Emmanuel Rodriguez. Reymart Gaballo is another one that has the chance for a title match as long as he continues winning his next fights, probably against Nawaphon Kaikanha.

Nonito Donaire might also become a champion again but since he's already on the verge of retirement, expect that he won't hold the title for long. John Riel Casimero on the other hand is still looking for good fights as he's working his way up to the top rankings.

Unfortunately, there's no definite time for how long PH will wait for another Pacman 2.0 wannabee that can be close to having the same achievement.
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