Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 134. (Read 31605 times)

I know what you feel and that vibe is the same with many boxing fans. It's true that he's a living legend and he's got a good and clean record but he's not really an icon to many. I don't know maybe that feels about how he's interacting with fans and the charisma isn't just the same with other real icons that we can say like Pacquiao, Marquez, and other boxers that have been knowing for the past years. And it even made his reputation lower when he's doing some exhibition matches as it's intended to make money just as his alias.

Well, in boxing there are certain things that should never be revealed or said lightly, saying that the way one boxer is going to beat another is unethical, although this can be important to encourage the other boxer to correct his weakness. . .

In boxing you can apply that saying that says: "The fish dies by the mouth", in fact it is a very native saying where I am from, the bad thing about some irresponsible statements can make the boxer take it to heart and create a bad feeling.

Some believe that this is all part of the show, but there should be some restrictions, just to avoid disrespect, as I said before, fans really like this kind of thing. I consider myself a big fan of this sport, that's why I like to see every detail of what the boxers say or do before the fight.


Well, for me, Floyd Mayweather is not such an iconic boxer, I am sure that many know well who Pacquiao is before him, I cannot deny, he is a very intelligent boxer, he knows how to handle fights in a totally technical area very well, but sometimes Sometimes that is something that is boring, we as fans want to see more action, we want to see technique and we want to see what they are capable of, that they reach the limit, maybe things are getting more demanding for this type of boxer.

Floyd will surely use his legacy to continue sucking money from this sport, even he stops fighting exhibition games he will find a way
to make money and continue to have close relation inside this sport.

Like you mentioned, he already has that good glimpse of how to make money being a promoter, Broner and Davis were a cash-cow for him.

But the two were not there anymore and for sure Floyd will bring someone else to create and develop another fighter who can bring him money.

Ok we have a new order for the IBF bantamweight,

it will be Emmanuel Rodriguez vs Melvin Lopez as ordered by IBF. So everything has taken shape now since Inoue has vacated all the belt.
Donaire vs Santiago, (WBF)
Astrolobio vs Moloney (WBO)
Takuma Inoue vs Solis (WBA)

So that's what the bantamweight will look like for this year and the vacancy will be filled by this fights.

He doesn't have any choice at all that is why he is facing Mark Magsayo, a hand-pick fight? or maybe Mark Magsayo is a big money aswell, so if Naoya Inoue is not available surely Figueroa will target a different fighter, but looking at the paper Brandon Figueroa is not a push-over just like what I have said, but I can not underestimate Mark Massayo aswell because he can surely surprise his opponent,

Stephen Fulton on paper is not a slack he surely got a great record of 21 wins without any losses, and he will surely go inside that ring with a lot of technicalities in his punch and some volume while that 24 wins of Naoya Inoue is really incredible because is Stephen Fulton has 8 KO wins Naoya Inoue has 21 KO wins, equal to the winning of Fulton, Naoya Inoue is really a monster, and if this fight commence I will surely putting my all for Naoya Inoue, and for sure the odds will be for Inoue for sure,


It was a war, and both fighters is really trading blows and never giving up but surely 1 will prevail from this and you can see that Jeremias Ponce is one hell of a dude in being aggressive towards Matias, then after so many punches for Ponce Subriel Matias is not trading punches back, while this is not really looking good for Ponce in the 5th round he is not stopping maybe because Matias will know that he is hurting from his punches so the Pride of Ponce kept on until he can not anymore, because he was surely knock down by Matias in the 5th round,

I think though that if ever Floyd will have to unwind his career fighting, then most likely he will be a promoter as he has TMT as his company. He has the likes of Davis and to the beginning of Broner's career, they are close as hell. But when Broner started to lose and then his career goes to a steep downfall, Floyd separated with him. And then took Davis under his wing and made him millions but it's time for Davis to move up. So as genuis as Floyd is, he might be looking for another career after his boxing is done.

^ Yes, you can say that it's a must-win, do-or-die fight for Magsayo as another lost will put a damp on his chances to regain that belt and could be the next Filipino to fall out of contention again because it's going to be back to back loses for him, just like what Jerwin Ancajas suffered in the hands of Fernando Martinez.

And this time, there will be no rematch anymore for Magsayo and I do agree that he might go back to his native Philippines to pick up the pieces and see what's going to happen in his career. So let's just be positive and support Magsayo in his fight against a very rugged Brandon Figueroa.

Yes, a must-win for him, right?
So just like @Jawhead999, I think I am also taking the ML here for Magsayo. It doesn't matter if every bookie is putting him as an underdog, this is boxing and anything can happen.
Besides, as a Filipino, this is my kind of support for him.
This will tell if he has a chance for a title match against Rey Vargas once more. As long as that guy is not ranking up in weight class he sure will protect the title. Magsayo almost had it last time in a split decision but for now, he must focus on defeating what is in front of him. Brandon Figueroa's KO punches will be a crucial part of this bout, Magsayo would need to avoid all those haymakers that will be thrown by him.

Yes, I think the ML option is already a very attractive one already, if he losses this fight, he will go back in the Philippines for sure and have some finds in there first to get back on his feet again.

So very critical for him to win against Brandon to make his name still relevant in this division, otherwise, it might take a while for him to bounce back again and make a name in this weight class. The most difficult part is that this weight division is also pretty much stack up with elite fighters.

But finding talent and developing such talent takes a lot of work, and if you were given the option to go through all that work or earn a lot of money by fighting exhibitions fight with very low risk to your health and reputation then this option makes the most sense, especially for someone like Mayweather which cares so much about making money, so I think we are going to keep seeing Mayweather arrange more exhibition fights even if they are not making him as much money as he expected.

As long as he's not fighting with huge boxers, he will have a hard time hyping his matches. Mayweather will still fight because just like Manny, he can't leave hisnpassion behind especially if he's still benefits from it.
His lime light isn't as bright as before and people now focuses on new names who which is still a gold thing so new boxers could also build a good foundation. I think Mayweather should find strategies so his exhibition fights could make noise.

Seems many people are underestimating Magsayo here, bet him in moneyline option is already worth it without going to winning method. The fight will be similar like Magsayo fought Rey Vargas, Magsayo isn't completely lose at that time, so I expect Magsayo should able to win since he have learnt from his experience. If he's still lose, he might become Ancajas where there's no hype anymore and he need to fight few boxers before taking a challenge with the champion.

Right. He didn't experience a loss and his ego is higher than any boxer out there. I doubt he will accept a fight where there's a chance his record will be tainted red. He will only accept those who are either staged or smaller than him meaning he can defeat them without a big effort at all.
That may be the reason why fewer fans will watch his fights. It's not just because Chalmers is not a popular personality.

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Anyway, we have an upcoming fight this Sunday GMT+8, Saturday night for Eastern Time. A good one brought to us by Showtime.
Will be held in Toyota Arena in Ontario, California.
Brandon "The Heartbreaker" Figueroa versus Mark "Magnifico" Magsayo
12 rounds of boxing.
Title: WBC interim featherweight
Stake.com odds.
Figueroa @1.33
Magsayo @3.25

If there's no interest with his fight it might be the end of his exhibition career, but as long as he can still collect money out from the exhibition he will continue fighting, Mayweather loves to make a sure money, it's the promoters who needs to work on it and find good names to bring into hypes for people's interest.

Last time there're no hypes and if this kind of matches happen to him, then there's no more money on his name to continue.

I was really surprised when Ponce right away attacked his 100% KO win rate opponent. I like it but I thought Ponce is also ready for a 12-round war which is why he spent big energy right away in round 1. I also thought Matias will be down later from the pressure of Ponce, but it seems the huge experience of fighting high-level opponents made him survive and remained composed. I felt like Ponce is still willing to fight but his corner are scared after Matias started to change the fight into his momentum. And the fact that someone very good and undefeated before was already dead after absorbing a lot of heavy blows from Matias made Ponce's corner more concerned.

Matias 19-1-19, now the new IBF champion has a scary message to WBC champion Regis Prograis.

But Regis Prograis 28-1-24 is a KO artist himself and the more proven fighter of the 2. Hopefully, a unification is going to happen this year right away. No more unnecessary title defenses since we want the best to fight the best. 2 KO champions, both KO artists and are in a bad blood already, it's going to be a war.

What I meant is that he will just retire and not fight anymore. But we all know that he loves to make money, so maybe just one or two more exhibition fights against McGregor or who has the hype today in exhibition matches.

Japan? Yes, not sure if he still has contract with the Rizin, Manny Pacquiao has signed recently if I'm not mistaken. So he might be the new face and face some Japanese MMA figher in their New Year's Eve event.

Yes and that's what he have been saying for Fulton, he has the balls and guts to fight the prime Inoue at 122 lbs. Although initially this is Inoue's first fight, but we can' discount the fact that he has the advantage even if Fulton is the champion.


Still a toast up between Figueroa and Magsayo, still 50/50 for me although Brandon has listed as favorite. Magsayo still possesses that one punch KO and then Brandon should not underestimate him.

But definitely, Floyd is still bringing money when he had his exhibitions fights, just a fight in Japan this December again could yield him easy cool $10 M or higher.

However, he is aged already, lots of money and doesn't need to fight even for exhibition fight to remain relevant in boxing. He can just simply find talents like what he did against Gervonta Davis and guide them on how to become boxing's cash cow.

His exhibition career was already end when he done fight with Logan Paul, after that he have next 4 exhibitions fights with Don Moore, Mikuru Asakura, Deji Olatunji, and Aaron Chalmers. But I don't see any hype, his appearance doesn't enough to bring the crowd. Maybe if he fight with McGregor or Jake Paul, it would be different. But McGregor want to comeback in UFC, while Jake Paul only want to fight in a professional career, Mayweather will not want since he is really care with his undefeated record.

In terms of experienced Magsayo was a former champ in this division if my memory serve me right, I think both fighters are capable it's just a matter of how good the training will be, and how the camp will prepared for their strategy to win the fight, Like what you mentioned Figueroa's chance in winning is considerable but for sure it will be a tough fight for him.

Magsayo will not waste this opportunity to climb back and re-try to regain his title.