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Quote from: chaser15 on September 15, 2022, 06:59:34 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on September 15, 2022, 04:42:21 PM

He just recently retired so I think Manny's body is still very much can fight at this point. His fighting weight is around just 147 lbs though and throughout his career, he went as high as 154 lbs. So I'm not sure if he can fight at the higher weight since most former fighters really gain so much weight after they hang their gloves, but not Manny Pacquaio as he is really gifted genetically to have more lean mass than fats. So we will see against this Youtuber, for sure Manny will not give his full power to the South Korean, he might just used around 50%-80% just to see how he will react to his power, hehehe.

You are correct and I agree with it. Manny Pacquiao is so strong that he can even fight today.

But the problem is, he becomes not focused anymore on his training because of lots of things he is doing. If he just focuses on maintaining shape, he can even fight against the prime Errol Spence Jr. and Terrence Crawford.

That leads now to his body not being pushed anymore. Manny is now more relaxed compared to doing his usual training since he started doing politics many years ago. He even won some of his fights even doing politics so just imagined if he doesn't involve in politics or many other things and just focused on boxing even at his post-prime age.

But we have seen how Manny zone in when he is fighting someone, he take a leave of absence in the Philippine Senate and go on like 8-10 weeks or training and we have seen videos of him pushing himself and with that every sweat we know that he will give it 100%.

That's why I believed he can still fight anyone, but would rather test exhibition matches first. The money is there for sure as he still has a lot of boxing fans around the world, not just Filipinos that for sure will watch his fight against the South Korean youtuber.

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Quote from: chaser15 on September 15, 2022, 06:59:34 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on September 15, 2022, 04:42:21 PM

He just recently retired so I think Manny's body is still very much can fight at this point. His fighting weight is around just 147 lbs though and throughout his career, he went as high as 154 lbs. So I'm not sure if he can fight at the higher weight since most former fighters really gain so much weight after they hang their gloves, but not Manny Pacquaio as he is really gifted genetically to have more lean mass than fats. So we will see against this Youtuber, for sure Manny will not give his full power to the South Korean, he might just used around 50%-80% just to see how he will react to his power, hehehe.

You are correct and I agree with it. Manny Pacquiao is so strong that he can even fight today.

But the problem is, he becomes not focused anymore on his training because of lots of things he is doing. If he just focuses on maintaining shape, he can even fight against the prime Errol Spence Jr. and Terrence Crawford.

It will be difficult for Pacman to comeback and make a fight with those prime fighters, he could very well lose to both of them.

Quote from: chaser15 on September 15, 2022, 06:59:34 PM

That leads now to his body not being pushed anymore. Manny is now more relaxed compared to doing his usual training since he started doing politics many years ago. He even won some of his fights even doing politics so just imagined if he doesn't involve in politics or many other things and just focused on boxing even at his post-prime age.

If he is still very much have an active lifestyle like playing his favorite sports then he can go back but with only with exhibition match. Just to wake up the curiousity of his fans. But for sure his focus right now is in the politics, he just lost I know, but he can still be very much active in the PH Senate if I'm not mistaken and maybe in the next race, he might run against for any offices including the Presidency.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on September 15, 2022, 04:03:29 AM

Yep, I've said this in another thread where Pacquiao might coming back in exhibition fight against DK Yoo a Korean youtuber at the end on this year. He even said he could taking a professional fight if there's a boxer want to fight with him, there will be a good cash flow for Pacquiao since many people already waiting him to comeback regardless which boxer he will fight. I think the cost of presidential election are really high and that's why he want to recover it from boxing.

Well, even though Pacquiao is super rich now money is not forever and he is aware of that, that is why he can continue this kind of trend just to still gain money, even though he doesn't really need it anymore, he will keep on doing it until he can't anymore,

Quote from: mirakal on September 15, 2022, 10:30:37 AM

Yes, that is just how the life works and it is inevitable because they cannot stay on the top spot forever and eventually, they will be replaced by the younger boxers who will become new elites in their own phase and time.

DK Yoo cannot reject this kind of fight as he will be getting paid big time while getting the honor in fighting a legendary boxer, Manny Pacquaio. Also, I'm sensing that Pacquiao has chose DK Yoo as a tune-up fight before he sets a bigger fight soon, still he has to test the water first to be safe even if it's just exhibition fight.

Well both of them will eventually get a huge sum of money from this not just DK Yoo, I really think that Pacquaio still wants the money just like other boxers like Mayweather, Mike Tyson, Hollifield, and MMA fighters like McGregor, Askren, Woodley, that Jake Paul and Floyd Mayweather have established, but as a retired fighter they can still used their skills in boxing in a sum up a huge amount of money even though they are already retired,

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 15, 2022, 04:42:21 PM

He just recently retired so I think Manny's body is still very much can fight at this point. His fighting weight is around just 147 lbs though and throughout his career, he went as high as 154 lbs. So I'm not sure if he can fight at the higher weight since most former fighters really gain so much weight after they hang their gloves, but not Manny Pacquaio as he is really gifted genetically to have more lean mass than fats. So we will see against this Youtuber, for sure Manny will not give his full power to the South Korean, he might just used around 50%-80% just to see how he will react to his power, hehehe.

You are correct and I agree with it. Manny Pacquiao is so strong that he can even fight today.

But the problem is, he becomes not focused anymore on his training because of lots of things he is doing. If he just focuses on maintaining shape, he can even fight against the prime Errol Spence Jr. and Terrence Crawford.

That leads now to his body not being pushed anymore. Manny is now more relaxed compared to doing his usual training since he started doing politics many years ago. He even won some of his fights even doing politics so just imagined if he doesn't involve in politics or many other things and just focused on boxing even at his post-prime age.

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Quote from: btc_angela on September 14, 2022, 04:27:11 AM

Manny is no longer in his prime, what we have is just memories of those run when he was in top of the game for many years. No one can escape Father time not even the great and elite fighters. At least when he lost to Ugas, he knows when to stop and focus on other matters like the PH Presidential election in which he lost badly. And then the news of his return thru exhibition match against a South korean if I'm not mistaken.

Well, all of those boxers will eventually fall, victims to that, getting older and past their prime, kind of thing, and next in line could be GGG or Canelo, but certainly, fans want to see more of them inside the ring but eventually, they can not escape faith,

Well, you are saying DK Yoo, the South Korean, Martial Artist, Youtuber, Bruce Lee Wannabe, and amateur Boxer Wannabe fighter that is about to take on an 8 division champion boxer Manny Pacquiao this guy is totally screwed but at least there is a ton of money involved here when the fight is finished,

Yes, that is just how the life works and it is inevitable because they cannot stay on the top spot forever and eventually, they will be replaced by the younger boxers who will become new elites in their own phase and time.

DK Yoo cannot reject this kind of fight as he will be getting paid big time while getting the honor in fighting a legendary boxer, Manny Pacquaio. Also, I'm sensing that Pacquiao has chose DK Yoo as a tune-up fight before he sets a bigger fight soon, still he has to test the water first to be safe even if it's just exhibition fight.

He just recently retired so I think Manny's body is still very much can fight at this point. His fighting weight is around just 147 lbs though and throughout his career, he went as high as 154 lbs. So I'm not sure if he can fight at the higher weight since most former fighters really gain so much weight after they hang their gloves, but not Manny Pacquaio as he is really gifted genetically to have more lean mass than fats. So we will see against this Youtuber, for sure Manny will not give his full power to the South Korean, he might just used around 50%-80% just to see how he will react to his power, hehehe.

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Quote from: freedomgo on September 14, 2022, 12:52:07 PM

Yes, we should just accept the fact that Manny Pacquiao was already done doing professional fights in boxing industry and those heart racing fights he did when he still at the top of his prime will be just in our memories. That is the reality because there will always be a new boxers that will replace the elites.

About his upcoming fight, I'm confused whom he will be facing because there's a news surfacing on the internet.

Manny Pacquiao eyes boxing return with Saudi exhibition fight
https://sports.inquirer.net/476130/manny-pacquiao-eyes-boxing-return-with-saudi-exhibition-fight

That is great news, for me Pacquiao has not yet burned his last cartridges, I think he is a boxer who can give much more, both for himself and for the fans, I know he has had some painful episodes but he can get ahead, Honestly, I don't think that age has much of an impact on boxing, that is, it's not analogous to a footballer who, when he is over 37 years old, is already considered a veteran that nobody wants despite being very good, an older boxer has enough experience and can show a lot of dominance and teach novice boxers, this is something that can be seen today, some do not bet on older boxers because of this problem, but many times they are surprised.

I have no doubt as well that Pacquiao can still dance gracefully in the ring against any other veteran boxer out there, I mean, if your passion is boxing then I believe that no one can stop you from getting into fights especially if there's huge money in line just waiting to be unlocked.

I still believe, whoever Manny fights, he can still give a good fight. Especially now that he's out of the politics, he can focus more on reconditioning his body and mind.
Though he's done with his professional boxing career, but we all knew he's most likely to go with exhibition matches after his retirement. We've been discussing about it before as the rise of exhibition matched arises in the late pandemic.
And here we are now, about to witness the exhibitionist Manny Pacquiao lol.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on September 14, 2022, 01:41:00 PM

Quote from: freedomgo on September 14, 2022, 12:52:07 PM

Yes, we should just accept the fact that Manny Pacquiao was already done doing professional fights in boxing industry and those heart racing fights he did when he still at the top of his prime will be just in our memories. That is the reality because there will always be a new boxers that will replace the elites.

About his upcoming fight, I'm confused whom he will be facing because there's a news surfacing on the internet.

Manny Pacquiao eyes boxing return with Saudi exhibition fight
https://sports.inquirer.net/476130/manny-pacquiao-eyes-boxing-return-with-saudi-exhibition-fight

That is great news, for me Pacquiao has not yet burned his last cartridges, I think he is a boxer who can give much more, both for himself and for the fans, I know he has had some painful episodes but he can get ahead, Honestly, I don't think that age has much of an impact on boxing, that is, it's not analogous to a footballer who, when he is over 37 years old, is already considered a veteran that nobody wants despite being very good, an older boxer has enough experience and can show a lot of dominance and teach novice boxers, this is something that can be seen today, some do not bet on older boxers because of this problem, but many times they are surprised.

I have no doubt as well that Pacquiao can still dance gracefully in the ring against any other veteran boxer out there, I mean, if your passion is boxing then I believe that no one can stop you from getting into fights especially if there's huge money in line just waiting to be unlocked.

Quote from: lionheart78 on September 14, 2022, 05:26:13 PM

It looks like the fight against the martial art YouTuber DK Yoo would be disadvantageous for Manny in terms of body mass since there is no weight limit in this exhibition match.

Also, fighting DK Yoo might not give them their projected revenue that's why there's another opponent surfacing now that Pacman will fight in Saudi Arabia.

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Quote from: mirakal on September 15, 2022, 10:30:37 AM

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Quote from: btc_angela on September 14, 2022, 04:27:11 AM

Manny is no longer in his prime, what we have is just memories of those run when he was in top of the game for many years. No one can escape Father time not even the great and elite fighters. At least when he lost to Ugas, he knows when to stop and focus on other matters like the PH Presidential election in which he lost badly. And then the news of his return thru exhibition match against a South korean if I'm not mistaken.

Well, all of those boxers will eventually fall, victims to that, getting older and past their prime, kind of thing, and next in line could be GGG or Canelo, but certainly, fans want to see more of them inside the ring but eventually, they can not escape faith,

Well, you are saying DK Yoo, the South Korean, Martial Artist, Youtuber, Bruce Lee Wannabe, and amateur Boxer Wannabe fighter that is about to take on an 8 division champion boxer Manny Pacquiao this guy is totally screwed but at least there is a ton of money involved here when the fight is finished,

Yes, that is just how the life works and it is inevitable because they cannot stay on the top spot forever and eventually, they will be replaced by the younger boxers who will become new elites in their own phase and time.

DK Yoo cannot reject this kind of fight as he will be getting paid big time while getting the honor in fighting a legendary boxer, Manny Pacquaio. Also, I'm sensing that Pacquiao has chose DK Yoo as a tune-up fight before he sets a bigger fight soon, still he has to test the water first to be safe even if it's just exhibition fight.

If a fighter getting older then his speed and power getting lower too and we all know that. And for manny pacman if he had a fight then a lot of money he earn because we all know that thousand of dollars or even millions of dollars the amount of prices and if we converted it on PHP money then that's a lot and that is enough to fulfill his empty wallet. About this tuneup game this upcoming December if that will happen then for manny will still have a chance to win.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on September 14, 2022, 10:16:58 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on September 14, 2022, 04:27:11 AM

Manny is no longer in his prime, what we have is just memories of those run when he was in top of the game for many years. No one can escape Father time not even the great and elite fighters. At least when he lost to Ugas, he knows when to stop and focus on other matters like the PH Presidential election in which he lost badly. And then the news of his return thru exhibition match against a South korean if I'm not mistaken.

Well, all of those boxers will eventually fall, victims to that, getting older and past their prime, kind of thing, and next in line could be GGG or Canelo, but certainly, fans want to see more of them inside the ring but eventually, they can not escape faith,

Well, you are saying DK Yoo, the South Korean, Martial Artist, Youtuber, Bruce Lee Wannabe, and amateur Boxer Wannabe fighter that is about to take on an 8 division champion boxer Manny Pacquiao this guy is totally screwed but at least there is a ton of money involved here when the fight is finished,

Yes, that is just how the life works and it is inevitable because they cannot stay on the top spot forever and eventually, they will be replaced by the younger boxers who will become new elites in their own phase and time.

DK Yoo cannot reject this kind of fight as he will be getting paid big time while getting the honor in fighting a legendary boxer, Manny Pacquaio. Also, I'm sensing that Pacquiao has chose DK Yoo as a tune-up fight before he sets a bigger fight soon, still he has to test the water first to be safe even if it's just exhibition fight.

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I think Pacman also saw the potential in exhibition matches and how much he can be paid, for me even though he is already rich, he can not afford to go back to that same old lifestyle he used to be, and he doesn't want his child to experience that same lifestyle he has back when he is not a boxer yet, and surely he can not perform any charity work if he himself is low on expenses, for me, it is still a good thing that he can warp a good fight that is only for entertainment and money as well,

Yep, I've said this in another thread where Pacquiao might coming back in exhibition fight against DK Yoo a Korean youtuber at the end on this year. He even said he could taking a professional fight if there's a boxer want to fight with him, there will be a good cash flow for Pacquiao since many people already waiting him to comeback regardless which boxer he will fight. I think the cost of presidential election are really high and that's why he want to recover it from boxing.

And that's why boxing is really a business because with the likes of Manny, one of the most charismatic boxer, he can still command fans to watch his fight even if this is just an exhibition match and then he can make money again, simply as that.

Well if he want to come back professionally, then he can do that as well. But obviously, he is no longer in his prime and maybe he will get knockout by somebody that his younger and stronger than him in 147 lbs. Might be better if he stays with just pure exhibition matches.

He deserve to make money because he worked hard to be a legend. Exhibition fights are not prohibited, and it's a way to entertain the fans, so that is still something to be proud of him, let's see if his first exhibition fight will be successful.

Do we still have a betting odds for such exhibition fight?

If I'm not mistaken, Manny's exhibition match will be in December so there might not be odds listed for this time. Maybe we will see it when we are about to approach that fight.

Of course, he can do whatever he wants, and he is best at boxing so maybe even if he is retired or other things to do like politics, he can still make money around with this exhibition. And I don't think it will hurt his legacy. There could be hard core fans of Manny who doesn't want him to do this, but no one can stop him if he wanted to do this to earn, just like the other retired boxers.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on September 15, 2022, 01:54:25 AM

I think Pacman also saw the potential in exhibition matches and how much he can be paid, for me even though he is already rich, he can not afford to go back to that same old lifestyle he used to be, and he doesn't want his child to experience that same lifestyle he has back when he is not a boxer yet, and surely he can not perform any charity work if he himself is low on expenses, for me, it is still a good thing that he can warp a good fight that is only for entertainment and money as well,

Yep, I've said this in another thread where Pacquiao might coming back in exhibition fight against DK Yoo a Korean youtuber at the end on this year. He even said he could taking a professional fight if there's a boxer want to fight with him, there will be a good cash flow for Pacquiao since many people already waiting him to comeback regardless which boxer he will fight. I think the cost of presidential election are really high and that's why he want to recover it from boxing.

And that's why boxing is really a business because with the likes of Manny, one of the most charismatic boxer, he can still command fans to watch his fight even if this is just an exhibition match and then he can make money again, simply as that.

Well if he want to come back professionally, then he can do that as well. But obviously, he is no longer in his prime and maybe he will get knockout by somebody that his younger and stronger than him in 147 lbs. Might be better if he stays with just pure exhibition matches.

He deserve to make money because he worked hard to be a legend. Exhibition fights are not prohibited, and it's a way to entertain the fans, so that is still something to be proud of him, let's see if his first exhibition fight will be successful.

Do we still have a betting odds for such exhibition fight?

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on September 15, 2022, 01:54:25 AM

I think Pacman also saw the potential in exhibition matches and how much he can be paid, for me even though he is already rich, he can not afford to go back to that same old lifestyle he used to be, and he doesn't want his child to experience that same lifestyle he has back when he is not a boxer yet, and surely he can not perform any charity work if he himself is low on expenses, for me, it is still a good thing that he can warp a good fight that is only for entertainment and money as well,

Yep, I've said this in another thread where Pacquiao might coming back in exhibition fight against DK Yoo a Korean youtuber at the end on this year. He even said he could taking a professional fight if there's a boxer want to fight with him, there will be a good cash flow for Pacquiao since many people already waiting him to comeback regardless which boxer he will fight. I think the cost of presidential election are really high and that's why he want to recover it from boxing.

And that's why boxing is really a business because with the likes of Manny, one of the most charismatic boxer, he can still command fans to watch his fight even if this is just an exhibition match and then he can make money again, simply as that.

Well if he want to come back professionally, then he can do that as well. But obviously, he is no longer in his prime and maybe he will get knockout by somebody that his younger and stronger than him in 147 lbs. Might be better if he stays with just pure exhibition matches.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on September 15, 2022, 01:54:25 AM

I think Pacman also saw the potential in exhibition matches and how much he can be paid, for me even though he is already rich, he can not afford to go back to that same old lifestyle he used to be, and he doesn't want his child to experience that same lifestyle he has back when he is not a boxer yet, and surely he can not perform any charity work if he himself is low on expenses, for me, it is still a good thing that he can warp a good fight that is only for entertainment and money as well,

Yep, I've said this in another thread where Pacquiao might coming back in exhibition fight against DK Yoo a Korean youtuber at the end on this year. He even said he could taking a professional fight if there's a boxer want to fight with him, there will be a good cash flow for Pacquiao since many people already waiting him to comeback regardless which boxer he will fight. I think the cost of presidential election are really high and that's why he want to recover it from boxing.

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Quote from: Japinat on September 14, 2022, 12:44:48 PM

He tried to do what he had to do at the same time and he won at some point in time but later on Pacman realized that he is not getting any younger and should only pick one fight at a time that's why he retired after he lost to Ugas and focused on politics as he is also busy at that time for the presidential election.

Now, that he almost got all the time in the world, and just like what we've speculated, Pacman is not coming back but on an exhibition fight.

I think Pacman also saw the potential in exhibition matches and how much he can be paid, for me even though he is already rich, he can not afford to go back to that same old lifestyle he used to be, and he doesn't want his child to experience that same lifestyle he has back when he is not a boxer yet, and surely he can not perform any charity work if he himself is low on expenses, for me, it is still a good thing that he can warp a good fight that is only for entertainment and money as well,

Quote from: Vaculin on September 14, 2022, 02:23:41 PM

Well, they cannot do anything about that but accept their reality as it is really inevitable and they don't have to worry anything about retirement because they have spent their boxing years very well and have been successful in making their legacy, especially Canelo who became an undisputed boxer and a pound for pound king.

Though Golovkin already said that he won't retire yet regardless of the result in their trilogy but I'm thinking that 2 years will be already long before he retires while Canelo still has almost a decade left in his career before he starts considering to retire.

Good point, they will still continue, and because they haven't reached the peak of Manny Pacquiao's age yet so it is highly that we can still see them fight inside the ring, while Naoya Inoue has a very bright future ahead of him, and just a 29 years old boxer means he still got the potential to build and a high ceiling to improve, I wish that Naoya Inoue and Ryan Garcia to clash to really see who does have the strong killer punch, but because of their weight class this isn't possible but maybe in the future or some future exhibition,

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Quote from: harizen on September 11, 2022, 04:15:17 AM

Yordenis Ugas Eyes Ring Return Next Year, Targets Keith Thurman, Jaron Ennis, and Vergil Ortiz

Yordenis Ugas might not have that big hype named until he beats Manny Pacquiao and got his best ever title in his entire boxing career, the WBA SuperWelterWeight title that becomes his ticket to fight in an unification match against Errol Spence Jr. who prior to their fight, holding the IBF and WBC welterweight titles. Unfortunately, he failed to win in that match and the direction of his career becomes unclear.

However, he is looking forward returning to the ring next year and some of his targets are Keith Thurman (who didn't fight have an official fight for 31 months but still managed to win unanimously against Mario Barrios on February this year), Vergil Ortiz and Jarron Enis.

Not expecting much from him but good for him to make some money before retiring.

Ugas does not deserve to fight Boots Ennis or Keith Thurman, I reckon. Boots Ennis will be the next king of welterweight boxing and Keith Thurman has recently won versus Mario Barrios. It might be more deserving for Ennis and Thurman to fight each other and the winner challenges Spence or Crawford for the their championships.

Ugas was braved enough to fight Spence for a unification fight, so I think he deserves a chance to be a top contender again. Not a superstar in boxing but he can give a good challenge to either Thurman or Ennis, but personally, I like Thurman to be a champion again.

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Quote from: harizen on September 11, 2022, 04:15:17 AM

Yordenis Ugas Eyes Ring Return Next Year, Targets Keith Thurman, Jaron Ennis, and Vergil Ortiz

Yordenis Ugas might not have that big hype named until he beats Manny Pacquiao and got his best ever title in his entire boxing career, the WBA SuperWelterWeight title that becomes his ticket to fight in an unification match against Errol Spence Jr. who prior to their fight, holding the IBF and WBC welterweight titles. Unfortunately, he failed to win in that match and the direction of his career becomes unclear.

However, he is looking forward returning to the ring next year and some of his targets are Keith Thurman (who didn't fight have an official fight for 31 months but still managed to win unanimously against Mario Barrios on February this year), Vergil Ortiz and Jarron Enis.

Not expecting much from him but good for him to make some money before retiring.

Ugas does not deserve to fight Boots Ennis or Keith Thurman, I reckon. Boots Ennis will be the next king of welterweight boxing and Keith Thurman has recently won versus Mario Barrios. It might be more deserving for Ennis and Thurman to fight each other and the winner challenges Spence or Crawford for the their championships.

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Quote from: yazher on September 14, 2022, 04:16:21 AM

He can always have any exhibition fight after his pro boxing career is over and this guy is a truly charitable person who always wanted to help. One of his ways is becoming to get into politics to further help others in need. Anyway, his era is over and we are now living in a different era where names like Inoue, Canelo and Haney, and others are the talks in the boxing industry. next Saturday will be a huge fight that will be one of the historical fights this year can't really wait for that. Canelo vs GGG III will finally happen.

There is no doubt that he's got a good heart but he's already past his prime and I agree that he can do exhibition matches for charity purposes if he wants to but, he can always get a cut from it.

Quote from: btc_angela on September 14, 2022, 04:27:11 AM

Manny is no longer in his prime, what we have is just memories of those run when he was in top of the game for many years. No one can escape Father time not even the great and elite fighters. At least when he lost to Ugas, he knows when to stop and focus on other matters like the PH Presidential election in which he lost badly. And then the news of his return thru exhibition match against a South korean if I'm not mistaken.

Yeah, that's the news but it seems that there's no more update that I've seen about that match. But maybe within the next month, we'll see.

Quote from: Japinat on September 14, 2022, 12:44:48 PM

He tried to do what he had to do at the same time and he won at some point in time but later on Pacman realized that he is not getting any younger and should only pick one fight at a time that's why he retired after he lost to Ugas and focused on politics as he is also busy at that time for the presidential election.

Now, that he almost got all the time in the world, and just like what we've speculated, Pacman is not coming back but on an exhibition fight.

With the losses that he's made, that also made him realize that he's aged although he can still really box well. But age does really play a factor for athletes like in boxing.

Quote from: lionheart78 on September 14, 2022, 05:26:13 PM

If you are talking about Manny Pacquiao, his last match he really became a slug out there. He even stated his legs are tight, meaning he has difficulty in moving. I don't know if that is the sign of old-age where your minds are able but your body is not. Manny may be slowed down and it was shown in his last fight.

And that's why, professional fights could be a no to him for now and he just have to accept the matches that there's not that match of stake for his professional record.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on September 14, 2022, 01:41:00 PM

If it is in the category of a lower weight as you say of 115, it seems to me that it is much easier for Donaire, it does not matter if he loses more weight, what I do not think will lose weight will be his punches, what happens is that the boxers seek to have more fame according to their weight, and the more weight you fight with more intensity and especially with more coins. Yes, Donaire is a great boxer, but I think he has to keep raising his level and by pure inspection it is known that the heaviest boxers are the most exciting fights, they are the most battle-hardened of all, and they also attract more people, I think That's what it's all about, and the business model, which is what sponsors are interested in, increases interest.

Many think that heavyweight is the most exciting, I won't argue with that, but I find lighter, agile, and technical fighters to be more interesting. I hate boxing matches that have more clinches than punches, and that often times the issue with the heavier boxer matches. A heavier boxer is exciting due to the KO often happening but the same thing also happens in lighter weight matches. I think the popularity depends on the exposure and promotional hype injected into the fight. And Heavyweight category have lots of this.

Quote from: jossiel on September 13, 2022, 02:41:54 AM

He's doing a lot of things and he can't just do all of those at the same time. As said, I thought that he'll be having another match after the election that he's part of.

But, I'm not expecting him to be the same with his past matches, yes he aged but there's still the power and speed that he's got.

Still, not that the same anymore where most of us were amazed back then.

If you are talking about Manny Pacquiao, his last match he really became a slug out there. He even stated his legs are tight, meaning he has difficulty in moving. I don't know if that is the sign of old-age where your minds are able but your body is not. Manny may be slowed down and it was shown in his last fight.

Quote from: freedomgo on September 14, 2022, 12:52:07 PM

Yes, we should just accept the fact that Manny Pacquiao was already done doing professional fights in boxing industry and those heart racing fights he did when he still at the top of his prime will be just in our memories. That is the reality because there will always be a new boxers that will replace the elites.

About his upcoming fight, I'm confused whom he will be facing because there's a news surfacing on the internet.

Manny Pacquiao eyes boxing return with Saudi exhibition fight
https://sports.inquirer.net/476130/manny-pacquiao-eyes-boxing-return-with-saudi-exhibition-fight

It looks like the fight against the martial art YouTuber DK Yoo would be disadvantageous for Manny in terms of body mass since there is no weight limit in this exhibition match.

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Let's look at the perspective on the impact financially of the Marshall vs Shields fight. As per their promoter:

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“We’ve lost more than anyone on this show,” Shalom said on BBC 5 Live Boxing. “From a financial perspective it’s a disaster."

https://www.boxingscene.com/shields-marshall-promoter-from-financial-perspective-its-disaster--169047

He admitted that they have lost so much money because of the unforeseen event (death of the Queen). From fans traveling to watch the fight live, to hotel bookings. I think it's more on the fans as well, imagine you go their with your friends and families to watch the fight in weekends and then suddenly the fight moved to another date so he have to get another bookings next month if you wanted to catch it.

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Winding down.

Quote from: YuginKadoya on September 14, 2022, 10:16:58 AM

Quote from: yazher on September 14, 2022, 04:16:21 AM

He can always have any exhibition fight after his pro boxing career is over and this guy is a truly charitable person who always wanted to help. One of his ways is becoming to get into politics to further help others in need. Anyway, his era is over and we are now living in a different era where names like Inoue, Canelo and Haney, and others are the talks in the boxing industry. next Saturday will be a huge fight that will be one of the historical fights this year can't really wait for that. Canelo vs GGG III will finally happen.

Sad to say but both Canelo Alvarez 32 years old and Gennadiy Golovkin GGG 40 years old are near Manny Pacquiao's age, especially GGG, so I think for a couple of years and they will eventually need to retire at some point because their age is catching up to their speed, power, and durability, but surely it is their own choice if they still want to fight then they can,

Well, they cannot do anything about that but accept their reality as it is really inevitable and they don't have to worry anything about retirement because they have spent their boxing years very well and have been successful in making their legacy, especially Canelo who became an undisputed boxer and a pound for pound king.

Though Golovkin already said that he won't retire yet regardless of the result in their trilogy but I'm thinking that 2 years will be already long before he retires while Canelo still has almost a decade left in his career before he starts considering to retire.

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