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^ It's already getting hype by both camps, as Zayani said that he wouldn't hold in this exhibition fight and Manny says the same. If that is the case then we might see a full blown fight.

And regarding Canelo, he responded to David Benavidez dad, as we all know David's father said that his son will beat Canelo.

But Canelo doesn't want to give David the fight because he hasn't accomplished any.

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“I see his dad talking a lot of sh!t,” Alvarez said. “Look what he’s accomplished – nothing. [He beat] one, single champion, Anthony Dirrell. Please, don’t disrespect [me]. Please, guys.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-i-see-benavidezs-dad-talking-lot-sht-look-what-hes-accomplished-nothing--169178

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Quote from: stadus on September 20, 2022, 04:40:24 PM

2. Manny Pacquiao vs. Jaber Zayani - February 2023 (Saudi Arabia)

So this is Manny's former sparring partner? Just so weird that Manny had to accept this fight, but in any case if this is going to be made in Saudi, then for sure money are going to flow in this one as we all know that this is a rich Arab nation and they are all crazy on boxing in the last couple of years. So it will be good for Manny if he will be exposed in the Middle East, but for sure he has a lot of fans there. So he will be busy after his December fight with a South Korean Youtuber and then Feb with Zayani.

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Ohhh, Yeah. Very likely since they're the ones who makes contract, they can put those conditions that could favorable to them. But, I'm thinking if they'll put it on the contract on who's going to be a winner then and if they'll include it that it should them.

If there's a clause like that, I don't think that Manny will be obliged. Tongue

, well it is an exhibition fight so anything is possible if agreed by the two camps. I think in this fight, it isn't about honor or ranking but the entertainment the fans can get plus the money they can gather, may it be for charity purposes or personal gain. But with the character of Manny, I think part of the money raised will be donated to some charity organization. If that happen, I believe the money fans spend on the fight is considered worth it because

1. Having to watch their idol fight once again
2. Being able to help a certain charity organization.

Manny's known for helping charity so that's really going to be one of his goal when it's up to these profits that he'll make from these matches. Since there are matches that's on his line up, this could really possible to happen in the near future after these fights that he's about to have.

The two fights that he has isn't that far from each other's schedule but with DK Yoo, it's just an exhibition so there's really no preparation needed for him to have.

While he's going to have that match with DK as a charity match, his former sparring partner Jaber is just also another exhibition match.

The proceeds of their fight will go to the charity for Ukraine.

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Quote from: Japinat on September 20, 2022, 04:06:44 PM

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That's why if he wants to fight again, there will be a lot of boxers that would be happy to fight against him. It is because of the fame that's attached to him and for those boxers, it's an honor to have a match against him.
What I can see with those new boxers that would still like to fight against him, it's like quick fame and career boost whether they'll be beaten or win against Pacman. That's what Ryan Garcia tried to do but Pacman didn't bite his words.

Yes, it will be an honor to any boxer out there who gets a chance to fight Pacquiao even if it's just an exhibition fight and aside from the fame, money will always follow Manny Pacquiao that's why there has been reports and rumors that boxers are trying to get him into fights especially now that he is older enough and at that time, he didn't made a statement to retire yet.
Ryan Garcia did that? Didn't know that at all, surely the kid has something to offer but Manny wanted good and safe fights for now that's why Manny didn't bother at all.

Yeah, AFAIK, it was Ryan Garcia that tried to bait Pacman but it didn't do good because there was a match that Pacman was preparing on that time.

Quote from: stadus on September 20, 2022, 04:40:24 PM

2. Manny Pacquiao vs. Jaber Zayani - February 2023 (Saudi Arabia)

I saw this one lately and he's really going to be back with another match after his fight in South Korea. Well, not that much going to say as he's still a boxer no matter what he went through with all of those politics and other commitments he did. But I'm sure many would be mad against him after telling that he's really going after retirement during the elections.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on September 20, 2022, 09:41:59 AM

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Hehehe, for sure the brothers can offer Manny a fight, as someone suggested in a catch weight and it could generate huge money for both of them. I don't think Manny is hard to negotiate though, so it can be made as long as the money in the table is very attractive.

Yeah, I also think that Manny could easily accept the offer that they might do if there's really a good and interesting amount for Manny. Since he's all into his businesses now and these exhibitions, he could give time and entertainment with a good talent fee on the side.

are we talking about the Paul brothers here, if we do the Paul Brother is surely digging their own grave by challenging Manny Pacquiao in an exhibition match, but this could be a great match that many will surely watch, people that want the Paul brothers to win, over PACMAN, people who want the Paul Brothers to lose and beat the crap out of them by yours truly, and others that are curious in seeing this fight, there are different people that wants to see this match-up,

Agree, that's one thing to describe if one of them will pick a fight with against Pacquiao and I have no doubt as well that the fight will surely generate millions of revenues plus PPV-buys if there's indeed a fight that will likely happen soon of Manny Pacquiao against one of the two Paul Bros. in an exhibition match, surely that fight will be epic and fun to watch if it will materialize soon.

But for now, Pacman has already 2 fights queued in his comeback.
1. Manny Pacquiao vs DK Yoo - December 10 (Seoul, South Kore)
2. Manny Pacquiao vs. Jaber Zayani - February 2023 (Saudi Arabia)

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Quote from: blockman on September 19, 2022, 05:09:27 PM

Quote from: Japinat on September 19, 2022, 01:39:24 PM

I agree, Pacman doesn't have to prove himself again because he already carved his name in the boxing industry and have achieved a feat that will be hard for any boxer to attain.

That's why if he wants to fight again, there will be a lot of boxers that would be happy to fight against him. It is because of the fame that's attached to him and for those boxers, it's an honor to have a match against him.
What I can see with those new boxers that would still like to fight against him, it's like quick fame and career boost whether they'll be beaten or win against Pacman. That's what Ryan Garcia tried to do but Pacman didn't bite his words.

Yes, it will be an honor to any boxer out there who gets a chance to fight Pacquiao even if it's just an exhibition fight and aside from the fame, money will always follow Manny Pacquiao that's why there has been reports and rumors that boxers are trying to get him into fights especially now that he is older enough and at that time, he didn't made a statement to retire yet.
Ryan Garcia did that? Didn't know that at all, surely the kid has something to offer but Manny wanted good and safe fights for now that's why Manny didn't bother at all.

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Quote from: Japinat on September 19, 2022, 01:39:24 PM

Yes, Manny can still fight professionally if he chose to do so but he knows well that he ain't the same Manny anymore that the people knew and his skills are not the same when he was still in his prime. It's still a good idea to do some fights in the form of exhibition fight and that way he can still do his passions in boxing.

Maybe soon, we can see him running for a senatorial seat or maybe he will go back and run as a congressman.

yes, he can still fight but I don't think he would risk to tainted his record with losses upon his retirement, I think he had already felt it in him that he can not last anymore it is good for him to just focus on exhibition matches that are not that risky even an amateur can surely go and fight with a well known retired boxer, for me DK Yoo is an amateur boxer and he will likely be pursuing his death wish fighting Manny Pacquiao,

And speaking of exhibition matches Jake Paul is challenging Anderson Silva, I think Jake Paul has a death wish aswell,

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Hehehe, for sure the brothers can offer Manny a fight, as someone suggested in a catch weight and it could generate huge money for both of them. I don't think Manny is hard to negotiate though, so it can be made as long as the money in the table is very attractive.

Yeah, I also think that Manny could easily accept the offer that they might do if there's really a good and interesting amount for Manny. Since he's all into his businesses now and these exhibitions, he could give time and entertainment with a good talent fee on the side.

are we talking about the Paul brothers here, if we do the Paul Brother is surely digging their own grave by challenging Manny Pacquiao in an exhibition match, but this could be a great match that many will surely watch, people that want the Paul brothers to win, over PACMAN, people who want the Paul Brothers to lose and beat the crap out of them by yours truly, and others that are curious in seeing this fight, there are different people that wants to see this match-up,

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Quote from: inthelongrun on September 20, 2022, 01:27:48 AM

4. Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s quest to rule the universe. He already smashed Goku into tidbits and sent him crying like a child. Mayweather this weekend will face Sakura, a friend of Naruto. I won't be shocked if Mayweather will fight the Sailor Moons soon.

Wait.

What's this?

I am not aware of what has happened during the weekend on Mayweather as I don't follow him most often. When I've read that he's into anime, it got me curious.

Care to tell more about this, mate?

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Quote from: jakelyson on September 19, 2022, 06:54:15 PM

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I agree, Pacman doesn't have to prove himself again because he already carved his name in the boxing industry and have achieved a feat that will be hard for any boxer to attain.

That's why if he wants to fight again, there will be a lot of boxers that would be happy to fight against him. It is because of the fame that's attached to him and for those boxers, it's an honor to have a match against him.
What I can see with those new boxers that would still like to fight against him, it's like quick fame and career boost whether they'll be beaten or win against Pacman. That's what Ryan Garcia tried to do but Pacman didn't bite his words.

It is not just fame but also easy money for whoever will fight Manny Pacquiao. Though he is already old for boxing, his name still has a lot of pull for fans. I am sure, there are a lot of people who still want to see Pacquiao in the ring again. That alone can generate a lot of money. But I do not think we will still see Pacquaio in the ring again, either rank or exhibition.

Fame is no longer there for those who are going to fight Manny Pacquiao, it's all for the money now. So if he ever fights for boxing in exhibitions, his fans will buy the ticket because they want to see him fight. But I don't think it will be the same when he is very young and fighting professional fights.

But that is fine, we want boxers like Pacquiao to make some money although he has retired. He won't get that much damage so he will be OK with doing exhibitions and we will see him this December against a Youtuber.

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This weekend's boxing events:

1. ESPN presents Shakur Stevenson defending his WBO and WBC belts against Robson Conceicao.
2. We have a WBO heavyweight eliminator between undefeated Joe Joyce and former world champion Joseph Parker on ESPN+.
3. On DAZN, there's featherweight Leigh Wood defending his Mickey Mouse belt against dangerous Mauricio Lara.
And last but maybe not the least...
4. Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s quest to rule the universe. He already smashed Goku into tidbits and sent him crying like a child. Mayweather this weekend will face Sakura, a friend of Naruto. I won't be shocked if Mayweather will fight the Sailor Moons soon.

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Quote from: Russlenat on September 18, 2022, 05:16:31 AM

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Well, I think that Pacquiao should fight, and the weight category should not exceed 160lb, so he still has a lot to prove, I don't know very well if he is still focused on politics,..............

He has retired already, he will not get back in professional boxing anymore, maybe more exhibition fights, that way he can still earn millions. Pacquiao though not anymore in Politics but his family is, and I'm pretty sure he is the one supporting them, maybe next election, we will see Pacman winning the senatorial race again.

Pacquiao is already retired for good. If he goes to professional boxing, I doubt he can still compete here as he already rested for long and not doing intense training like he always did before. Even I'm annoyed at his future plan of doing exhibition match, then that's his life.

As we get annoyed, he is just making money. We should leaved it that way.

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Quote from: blockman on September 19, 2022, 05:09:27 PM

Quote from: Japinat on September 19, 2022, 01:39:24 PM

I agree, Pacman doesn't have to prove himself again because he already carved his name in the boxing industry and have achieved a feat that will be hard for any boxer to attain.

That's why if he wants to fight again, there will be a lot of boxers that would be happy to fight against him. It is because of the fame that's attached to him and for those boxers, it's an honor to have a match against him.
What I can see with those new boxers that would still like to fight against him, it's like quick fame and career boost whether they'll be beaten or win against Pacman. That's what Ryan Garcia tried to do but Pacman didn't bite his words.

It is not just fame but also easy money for whoever will fight Manny Pacquiao. Though he is already old for boxing, his name still has a lot of pull for fans. I am sure, there are a lot of people who still want to see Pacquiao in the ring again. That alone can generate a lot of money. But I do not think we will still see Pacquaio in the ring again, either rank or exhibition.

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After losing to Canelo in their trilogy, there are rumors that GGG is going back to Middleweight to continue his boxing career.

While others are saying he should retire now, I don't think it will be easy.

Just let GGG do what he wants. If he really feels it, then just continue.

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Quote from: livingfree on September 19, 2022, 01:56:25 PM

Ohhh, Yeah. Very likely since they're the ones who makes contract, they can put those conditions that could favorable to them. But, I'm thinking if they'll put it on the contract on who's going to be a winner then and if they'll include it that it should them.

If there's a clause like that, I don't think that Manny will be obliged. Tongue

, well it is an exhibition fight so anything is possible if agreed by the two camps. I think in this fight, it isn't about honor or ranking but the entertainment the fans can get plus the money they can gather, may it be for charity purposes or personal gain. But with the character of Manny, I think part of the money raised will be donated to some charity organization. If that happen, I believe the money fans spend on the fight is considered worth it because

1. Having to watch their idol fight once again
2. Being able to help a certain charity organization.

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Quote from: Japinat on September 19, 2022, 01:39:24 PM

I agree, Pacman doesn't have to prove himself again because he already carved his name in the boxing industry and have achieved a feat that will be hard for any boxer to attain.

That's why if he wants to fight again, there will be a lot of boxers that would be happy to fight against him. It is because of the fame that's attached to him and for those boxers, it's an honor to have a match against him.
What I can see with those new boxers that would still like to fight against him, it's like quick fame and career boost whether they'll be beaten or win against Pacman. That's what Ryan Garcia tried to do but Pacman didn't bite his words.

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Hehehe, for sure the brothers can offer Manny a fight, as someone suggested in a catch weight and it could generate huge money for both of them. I don't think Manny is hard to negotiate though, so it can be made as long as the money in the table is very attractive.

Yeah, I also think that Manny could easily accept the offer that they might do if there's really a good and interesting amount for Manny. Since he's all into his businesses now and these exhibitions, he could give time and entertainment with a good talent fee on the side.

Quote from: Baofeng on September 18, 2022, 05:11:07 PM

As far as the chances of the Paul brothers getting knock out, maybe they can put it in the contract that Manny should take some brakes. Or at least they will have to survived the whole fight just like in the Floyd vs Logan wherein there is no winner and Floyd at times has the change to knock him out but he didn't pull it.

Ohhh, Yeah. Very likely since they're the ones who makes contract, they can put those conditions that could favorable to them. But, I'm thinking if they'll put it on the contract on who's going to be a winner then and if they'll include it that it should them.

If there's a clause like that, I don't think that Manny will be obliged. Tongue

and that is the major reason why it is not advisable to bet on exhibition fights. they may have some prior arrangements that their fans don't know of. it may be entertaining to watch but betting good amount of money is not recommended on this type of boxing fight. judges can easily make it as a draw even if there is a clear winner inside the ring. but i can agree that there will be boxing fans that are willing to pay for gate ticket if manny will again decide to show up inside the ring.

He will have to follow that clause in the contract, otherwise, Manny might not get his money. Grin

. So whoever one of the Paul's he fight, they won't get knock out and so their hype will continue.

And I do agree that it's hard to bet on this exhibition fight because some of them might be rig. Again, another good example is Tyson vs Jones. When they have the exhibition, Tyson was the favorite, but the fight ended in draw when it was clear that Iron Mike should at least won this fight. But the judges see it as a draw. And so fans are in a uproar about the decision and that there are speculations that the fight is set up to be a draw in the beginning and there will be no knock out.

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Quote from: livingfree on September 19, 2022, 01:56:25 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on September 18, 2022, 05:11:07 PM

Quote from: livingfree on September 18, 2022, 04:52:49 PM

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Hehehe, for sure the brothers can offer Manny a fight, as someone suggested in a catch weight and it could generate huge money for both of them. I don't think Manny is hard to negotiate though, so it can be made as long as the money in the table is very attractive.

Yeah, I also think that Manny could easily accept the offer that they might do if there's really a good and interesting amount for Manny. Since he's all into his businesses now and these exhibitions, he could give time and entertainment with a good talent fee on the side.

Quote from: Baofeng on September 18, 2022, 05:11:07 PM

As far as the chances of the Paul brothers getting knock out, maybe they can put it in the contract that Manny should take some brakes. Or at least they will have to survived the whole fight just like in the Floyd vs Logan wherein there is no winner and Floyd at times has the change to knock him out but he didn't pull it.

Ohhh, Yeah. Very likely since they're the ones who makes contract, they can put those conditions that could favorable to them. But, I'm thinking if they'll put it on the contract on who's going to be a winner then and if they'll include it that it should them.

If there's a clause like that, I don't think that Manny will be obliged. Tongue

and that is the major reason why it is not advisable to bet on exhibition fights. they may have some prior arrangements that their fans don't know of. it may be entertaining to watch but betting good amount of money is not recommended on this type of boxing fight. judges can easily make it as a draw even if there is a clear winner inside the ring. but i can agree that there will be boxing fans that are willing to pay for gate ticket if manny will again decide to show up inside the ring.

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 18, 2022, 05:11:07 PM

Quote from: livingfree on September 18, 2022, 04:52:49 PM

~snip~

Hehehe, for sure the brothers can offer Manny a fight, as someone suggested in a catch weight and it could generate huge money for both of them. I don't think Manny is hard to negotiate though, so it can be made as long as the money in the table is very attractive.

Yeah, I also think that Manny could easily accept the offer that they might do if there's really a good and interesting amount for Manny. Since he's all into his businesses now and these exhibitions, he could give time and entertainment with a good talent fee on the side.

Quote from: Baofeng on September 18, 2022, 05:11:07 PM

As far as the chances of the Paul brothers getting knock out, maybe they can put it in the contract that Manny should take some brakes. Or at least they will have to survived the whole fight just like in the Floyd vs Logan wherein there is no winner and Floyd at times has the change to knock him out but he didn't pull it.

Ohhh, Yeah. Very likely since they're the ones who makes contract, they can put those conditions that could favorable to them. But, I'm thinking if they'll put it on the contract on who's going to be a winner then and if they'll include it that it should them.

If there's a clause like that, I don't think that Manny will be obliged. Tongue

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Well, I think that Pacquiao should fight, and the weight category should not exceed 160lb, so he still has a lot to prove, I don't know very well if he is still focused on politics,..............

He has retired already, he will not get back in professional boxing anymore, maybe more exhibition fights, that way he can still earn millions. Pacquiao though not anymore in Politics but his family is, and I'm pretty sure he is the one supporting them, maybe next election, we will see Pacman winning the senatorial race again.

Yes, Manny can still fight professionally if he chose to do so but he knows well that he ain't the same Manny anymore that the people knew and his skills are not the same when he was still in his prime. It's still a good idea to do some fights in the form of exhibition fight and that way he can still do his passions in boxing.

Maybe soon, we can see him running for a senatorial seat or maybe he will go back and run as a congressman.

More money and much lighter preparation if Manny will choose to do exhibition for sure there are a still lot of fans who wanted to witness him inside the ring, but professionally wise, I don't think he still need to prove something he already earned the respect from this sport and there's nothing to prove.

Yes, Pacman knows that his presence is already missed by the fans around the world and giving them an exhibition fight will surely delight them, no doubt that this fight will garner millions of dollars in-terms of revenues again and hopefully soon we can see Mayweather and Pacman again sharing the same ring even if it is an exhibition fight.

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...but professionally wise, I don't think he still need to prove something he already earned the respect from this sport and there's nothing to prove.

I agree, Pacman doesn't have to prove himself again because he already carved his name in the boxing industry and have achieved a feat that will be hard for any boxer to attain.

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Look at this guys, an event probably I know this is a boxing thread but I think RIZIN will have the retired boxer, Floyd Mayweather, in an exhibition match against MMA fight Mikuru Asakura

Super RIZIN

Saturday 09.24.2022
Location: Saitama, Japan

MAIN EVENT

Floyd Mayweather Jr. VS Mikuru Asakura

MAIN CARD

Nadaka Yoshinari VS Bandasak

Kota Miura VS Bunchuai Phonsungnoen

Koji Tanaka VS Ray Sadeghi

Like I have said I know that this is a boxing thread and the event is RIZIN and probably Mayweather is fighting a MMA fighter, but sure this is a boxing exhibition match and likely Floyd Mayweather will surely play with his opponent Mikuru Asakura,

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