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Quote from: freedomgo on September 07, 2022, 02:01:31 PM

That fight of Manny Pacquiao against DK Yoo will surely amass a good fortune because people already missed having the sight of Pacquiao fighting again in the ring even if it's not a professional fight and there is no doubt about that. I hope that someday there will be a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight too because that will be a good sight to see too.

Many Manny Pacquiao fans will surely love having Pacquiao fight again, but some fans they are asking why not Mayweather, some retired MMA fighter, or even Jake Paul that already has experience in boxing, but a fight is still a fight maybe the promoters for this fights are now talking for some of the next exhibition fights, Manny Pacquiao can showcase, but who really knows if DK Yoo can be a different fighter on the December of their fight, and both men have a long time they can practice, but I highly doubt that DK Yoo can be a different fighter in a span of a short time,

Quote from: freedomgo on September 07, 2022, 02:01:31 PM

There is a chance that DK Yoo will just be schooled because he is not used to boxing as he is a martial artist, but I bet he's already practicing and training a lot to give the people an entertaining fight so that their money won't be wasted.

I really wish that DK Yoo can be a different fighter when the fight commences because I am highly doubting this possibility judging from the recent fights of DK Yoo, he lacks experience and this is what he needs, surely he can get much experience to the 8th time division champion for sure,

Quote from: Fredomago on September 07, 2022, 03:30:18 PM

Funny to say but nothing is needed to compare it's all because of money that's why Mayweather accept that fight, the fans or maybe we can say audiences are the one who push those two known personalities to make an exhibition fight which promoters see the advantage that they will earn huge money from this kind of exhibition fight.

No bearing and Mayweather is assured to pocket millions of dollars here, just a practice or sparring type of fight, but he will be paid by millions of dollars. That's how wise and greed Mayweather was.

For me, I really like exhibition matches I got to see my questions got answered because of the fight, questions about who's going to win, and what style is beneficial in the sports of Boxing, we see a lot of MMA fighters that are surely participating and it is because of the money that they can get from this kind of exhibition matches,

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Quote from: poldanmig on September 07, 2022, 02:56:59 PM

Quote from: pawanjain on September 07, 2022, 12:23:17 PM

The money is flowing into exhibition matches because there are famous names getting involved in those matches.
They are creating a good hype for those matches and hence the tickets are being sold anything.
For example: Logan Paul vs Mayweather match was really hyped and gained a lot of attention.

For old boxers, of course, titles are no longer the main focus for them, they will offer to compete in exhibition boxing fights if the pay is worth it, as in the fight between Mayweather Vs Logan Paul which is quite sensational and strange because in terms of achievements, it is clear that the fight was not worth it, but because Paul Logan has a lot of money and his influence as a YouTuber will certainly be an attraction for the audience to watch the fight, so that Mayweather does not hesitate to accept the challenge and earn quite a lot of money eve though their boxing win record is very much different, namely Mayweather 50 wins while Paul Logan 0 wins.

Funny to say but nothing is needed to compare it's all because of money that's why Mayweather accept that fight, the fans or maybe we can say audiences are the one who push those two known personalities to make an exhibition fight which promoters see the advantage that they will earn huge money from this kind of exhibition fight.

No bearing and Mayweather is assured to pocket millions of dollars here, just a practice or sparring type of fight, but he will be paid by millions of dollars. That's how wise and greed Mayweather was.

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Quote from: harizen on September 07, 2022, 02:58:03 PM

To become a successful at the business field, he also needs to build a name first. He able to become successful because he worked for it. As a boxer, there is no doubt though that he's one of the great. He has the strength, power, speed, IQ (a win is win), good strategy etc.

I highly agree, it is not an easy feat to maintain an unblemished record. Sitting at 50-0, and many of his opponents also have names in the industry. Fans may agree to disagree about the kind of wins Mayweather Jr. had but a win is a win. It is hard to get on the good side of the judges and referees (if they think these ring officials are bought). Besides, boxing isn't about knocking opponents but how to dictate the tempo and dominate the game, the reason why he always had the judges' decisions. And Mayweather is effective in dictating tempos of the game. That is the result of his hard works and thorough research of his opponent.

Quote from: harizen on September 07, 2022, 02:58:03 PM

Although some of his fights were seen as mostly cherry-picked by the majority, still for Mayweather Jr., a fight is a fight and what matter is, he should always have the biggest slice. Because Mayweather Jr. thinks that his name itself will always be the reason why a fight will be sold out regardless of his opponent, he always demand for a much more money in return.

That is being a wise boxer Grin

besides he has an unblemished record so he thinks that he has more to lose so he should get a bigger stake.

Quote from: harizen on September 07, 2022, 02:58:03 PM

He is no doubt having lots of critics but he don't care for that. He won't be called Money for nothing.

As you said, he is enjoying his retirement while sleeping in cash. That what matters to him.

I think every boxer has their own critics but at the end of the day, it is how much they earn that matter especially when they are on retirement.

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Quote from: Japinat on September 07, 2022, 02:28:56 PM

You're right about that impression because Mayweather is truly a businessman who views the industry as a business that's why he built his own promotional company to build an empire in the industry, he knew exactly that he's not the best boxer in his era even if he won't admit it and he just talk big to maintain the hype around him. Well, look at him now, he is already sleeping in cash.

To become a successful at the business field, he also needs to build a name first. He able to become successful because he worked for it. As a boxer, there is no doubt though that he's one of the great. He has the strength, power, speed, IQ (a win is win), good strategy etc.

Although some of his fights were seen as mostly cherry-picked by the majority, still for Mayweather Jr., a fight is a fight and what matter is, he should always have the biggest slice. Because Mayweather Jr. thinks that his name itself will always be the reason why a fight will be sold out regardless of his opponent, he always demand for a much more money in return.

He is no doubt having lots of critics but he don't care for that. He won't be called Money for nothing.

As you said, he is enjoying his retirement while sleeping in cash. That what matters to him.

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Quote from: pawanjain on September 07, 2022, 12:23:17 PM

The money is flowing into exhibition matches because there are famous names getting involved in those matches.
They are creating a good hype for those matches and hence the tickets are being sold anything.
For example: Logan Paul vs Mayweather match was really hyped and gained a lot of attention.

For old boxers, of course, titles are no longer the main focus for them, they will offer to compete in exhibition boxing fights if the pay is worth it, as in the fight between Mayweather Vs Logan Paul which is quite sensational and strange because in terms of achievements, it is clear that the fight was not worth it, but because Paul Logan has a lot of money and his influence as a YouTuber will certainly be an attraction for the audience to watch the fight, so that Mayweather does not hesitate to accept the challenge and earn quite a lot of money eve though their boxing win record is very much different, namely Mayweather 50 wins while Paul Logan 0 wins.

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Quote from: Japinat on September 07, 2022, 02:28:56 PM

You're right about that impression because Mayweather is truly a businessman who views the industry as a business that's why he built his own promotional company to build an empire in the industry, he knew exactly that he's not the best boxer in his era even if he won't admit it and he just talk big to maintain the hype around him.

He understands the concept of boxing and business and he's into both of them. While he's in his prime, no doubt that he's really a good boxer, and his achievements are recognizable as we look at his record.

Quote from: Japinat on September 07, 2022, 02:28:56 PM

Well, look at him now, he is already sleeping in cash.

Well done for him and that's how it works when he's got that record and also has the mindset of being a businessman, he'll literally be earning without doing anything and as he does something, he'll bag money after each of those offers.

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Quote from: BitDane on September 05, 2022, 07:44:38 PM

Quote from: Japinat on September 05, 2022, 01:59:50 PM

Exactly, we know that Money Mayweather wouldn't turn down such fights that will give him guaranteed big money in just several minutes of fighting in the ring along with the amateur boxers in Japan, and of course, his win is also guaranteed on top of that Grin

even if he will say again that he will put his professional record on the line.

I got an impression that Floyd Mayweather is a businessman first, a boxer second. He always make sure that he has the better share of the pie, that he will win the fight, and that the referee will always be on his side, he has money to buy them all. Investment at its best!!! Grin

You're right about that impression because Mayweather is truly a businessman who views the industry as a business that's why he built his own promotional company to build an empire in the industry, he knew exactly that he's not the best boxer in his era even if he won't admit it and he just talk big to maintain the hype around him. Well, look at him now, he is already sleeping in cash.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on September 07, 2022, 01:25:43 PM

Quote from: pawanjain on September 07, 2022, 12:23:17 PM

The money is flowing into exhibition matches because there are famous names getting involved in those matches.
They are creating a good hype for those matches and hence the tickets are being sold anything.
For example: Logan Paul vs Mayweather match was really hyped and gained a lot of attention.

Pretty much Exhibition matches are very popular because people get to see their favorite fighter or artist fight a retired boxer, and this time a Youtuber VS a retired boxer, this kind of fight will surely catch attention because it is new for them, and some are pretty much bored on just boxing they want to see never before seen just like on the upcoming fight of Manny Pacquiao on December against a martial arts master and that is DK Yoo, maybe this will create a stir on the fans or could be a fail because in recent DK Yoo fight some Youtuber has to Speculate that DK Yoo doesn't know how to fight in boxing,

That fight of Manny Pacquiao against DK Yoo will surely amass a good fortune because people already missed having the sight of Pacquiao fighting again in the ring even if it's not a professional fight and there is no doubt about that. I hope that someday there will be a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight too because that will be a good sight to see too.

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...maybe this will create a stir on the fans or could be a fail because in recent DK Yoo fight some Youtuber has to Speculate that DK Yoo doesn't know how to fight in boxing.

There is a chance that DK Yoo will just be schooled because he is not used to boxing as he is a martial artist, but I bet he's already practicing and training a lot to give the people an entertaining fight so that their money won't be wasted.

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Quote from: pawanjain on September 07, 2022, 12:23:17 PM

The money is flowing into exhibition matches because there are famous names getting involved in those matches.
They are creating a good hype for those matches and hence the tickets are being sold anything.
For example: Logan Paul vs Mayweather match was really hyped and gained a lot of attention.

Pretty much Exhibition matches are very popular because people get to see their favorite fighter or artist fight a retired boxer, and this time a Youtuber VS a retired boxer, this kind of fight will surely catch attention because it is new for them, and some are pretty much bored on just boxing they want to see never before seen just like on the upcoming fight of Manny Pacquiao on December against a martial arts master and that is DK Yoo, maybe this will create a stir on the fans or could be a fail because in recent DK Yoo fight some Youtuber has to Speculate that DK Yoo doesn't know how to fight in boxing,

Here are some quick picks for the upcoming fights on Shields vs. Marshall: Legacy

Claressa Shields VS Savannah Marshall

Stake odds for this fight are 1.92 for Shields while 1.86 for Marshall, my pick will be Claressa Shields,

Mikaela Mayer VS Alycia Baumgardner

Stake odds for this fight are 1.37 for Mayer while 3.05 for Baumgardner, my pick will be Mikaela Mayer

April Hunter VS Erica Alvarez

Stake odds for this fight are 1.04 for Hunter while 10.00 for Alvarez, my pick will be April Hunter, but not going to bet,

Sarah Liegmann VS Bec Connolly

Stake odds for this fight are 1.03 for Liegmann while 11.00 for Connolly, my pick will be Sarah Liegmann but not going to bet for this fight aswell,

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on September 04, 2022, 07:43:52 PM

as this type of boxing match is still selling tickets, the promoters behind this activity will continue to take advantage of this situation. but would be nice if they are setting-up good exhibition matches and not just because of clear intentions of pocketing the money from the boxing community. from time to time, we need entertainment. but should at least worth our pennies. and not just pulled out from somewhere, where the "boxers" themselves are not ready to rumble inside the ring.

There's a risk too on the side of promoters as they should organize an exhibition match that is really living the hype.

They can't just form a match randomly just because they want it. I do agree that there will be more people that will still support exhibition matches as long as those fighters involved are worthy to watch.

A fight between a famous one against a non-popular one can also do the trick. I don't know but money is really flowing at exhibition matches.

The money is flowing into exhibition matches because there are famous names getting involved in those matches.
They are creating a good hype for those matches and hence the tickets are being sold anything.
For example: Logan Paul vs Mayweather match was really hyped and gained a lot of attention.

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Quote from: Invester on September 06, 2022, 07:02:09 AM

Andy Ruiz vs Luis Ortiz schedule was not normal. Big boxing events happened during Saturday nights but it was different. Andy Ruiz was reluctant in letting his hands go. He looks like saving his stamina for the late rounds and because of that Luis Ortiz was able to finish the whole twelve rounds. The fight was a draw if not for the three knockdowns by Andy Ruiz. Two judges had it 6 rounds each and the other judge had Ortiz seven rounds to Ortiz's five. I was amazed the fight attracted many fans.

It was really a weird Schedule but I think this is a special fight given that kind of date, and yes if not for the knockout this could be a draw, but surely despite his physique, Andy Ruiz is one fast boxer, that could surely give a volume of punches to his opponent While Ortiz might have that power punch that speed from Ruiz have really dominated the fight, and just like I have said it was really a great fight to watch but I am expecting more from Andy Ruiz he also defeated Anthony Joshua but surely he needs to fight more it is good to see him win for now,

Quote from: fortunecrypto on September 06, 2022, 07:21:21 AM

This month of September is the best month of the year for the boxing industry all these fights are exciting to see, two are for the undisputed title and one for a trilogy that everyone is waiting to happen, and we have something that will make this yar a memorable year, the much-awaited fight between Fury and Joshua with special sanction coming from WBC, and this could happen in the month of September, I wonder with all these great fights what will fight will be the fight of the year.

It surely is the best month to have for these exclusive fights but before we go into the most exciting fight on September 17, we will be having an all-girls boxing event and here it is

Shields vs. Marshall: Legacy

Saturday 09.10.2022
Location: London, England

MAIN EVENT

Female Middleweight: Claressa Shields VS Savannah Marshall

CO-MAIN EVENT

Female Super Featherweight: Mikaela Mayer VS Alycia Baumgardner

MAIN CARD

Female Bantamweight: Lauren Price VS Timea Belik
Female Featherweight: Karriss Artingstall VS Marina Sakharov
Female Lightweight: Caroline Dubois VS Milena Koleva
Female Flyweight: Ginny Fuchs VS Gemma Ruegg
Female Welterweight: Ebonie Jones VS Vanesa Caballero
Female Super Welterweight: April Hunter VS Erica Alvarez
Female Super-Flyweight Shannon Ryan VS Bushra El Quaissi
Female light Welterweight: Sarah Liegmann VS Bec Connolly

All information was from Tapology

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Quote from: serjent05 on September 02, 2022, 03:44:36 PM

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That is probably one of the reasons why they are so confident about taking a fight against UFC fighters, they already have some idea of how to deal with these fighters because of that experience they acquired. Anyway let's go back to the fight, Anderson Silva can protect his chin well and other weaknesses but that's in the old times when is still fast to react and quite agile to counter the movements. But now? He will be an open book to Jake Paul, no doubt.

Besides, MMA uses lighter gloves so the impact is far more devastating, now I wonder if Silva can still launch those kinds of punches that can floor his opponent with heavier gloves.
I know this is all promotions and business for Jake Paul but I wonder when will be the time for him to grow balls and challenge a professional boxing legend instead Grin

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That's just one of many difference that MMA and boxing have, Silva is already considered as one of the legends in his time in MMA while Jake Paul is just trying to make his name in the boxing that's why having an exhibition fights like these means a lot to Jake Paul as this is his own way to make his name even if it really doesn't make sense at all. I totally agree in what you said, he should just try and fight pure pro boxers because that's a better way to create a noise for his name.

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Quote from: Invester on September 06, 2022, 07:02:09 AM

Andy Ruiz vs Luis Ortiz schedule was not normal. Big boxing events happened during Saturday nights but it was different. Andy Ruiz was reluctant in letting his hands go. He looks like saving his stamina for the late rounds and because of that Luis Ortiz was able to finish the whole twelve rounds. The fight was a draw if not for the three knockdowns by Andy Ruiz. Two judges had it 6 rounds each and the other judge had Ortiz seven rounds to Ortiz's five. I was amazed the fight attracted many fans.

Right, I also thought that the fight will not going to last the full 12 rounds. But both fighters really trained very hard to be able to see get going at each other for the duration of the fight.

But that knock down by Ruiz was the biggest difference in the fight. Although Ortiz try to fight back and make it very close, the 3 knockdowns was enough.

Haven't seen the 2 fights that has been scored a draw but it was really odd.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on September 06, 2022, 06:02:54 AM

well on the next event on boxing we got Claressa Shields VS, Savannah Marshall, on September 10, Canelo Alvarez VS Gennadiy Golovkin, on September 17, and the most awaited and I think I love to really see the Devin Haney vs. George Kambosos Jr. on October 15, on the later days I will surely post the said events here,

This month of September is the best month of the year for the boxing industry all these fights are exciting to see, two are for the undisputed title and one for a trilogy that everyone is waiting to happen, and we have something that will make this yar a memorable year, the much-awaited fight between Fury and Joshua with special sanction coming from WBC, and this could happen in the month of September, I wonder with all these great fights what will fight will be the fight of the year.

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Quote from: BitDane on September 05, 2022, 07:44:38 PM

Quote from: Japinat on September 05, 2022, 01:59:50 PM

Exactly, we know that Money Mayweather wouldn't turn down such fights that will give him guaranteed big money in just several minutes of fighting in the ring along with the amateur boxers in Japan, and of course, his win is also guaranteed on top of that Grin

even if he will say again that he will put his professional record on the line.

I got an impression that Floyd Mayweather is a businessman first, a boxer second. He always make sure that he has the better share of the pie, that he will win the fight, and that the referee will always be on his side, he has money to buy them all. Investment at its best!!! Grin

I think he has evolved as a boxer, specially when he become professional and saw the huge potential of making money for himself. And I guess his father and uncle has really a big influence on his life as a boxer and money making machine. So then become a business savvy, not just inside the ring by being the A-side and of course getting the biggest share and maybe also outside, by investing his money in Las Vegas and somewhere else.

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Andy Ruiz vs Luis Ortiz schedule was not normal. Big boxing events happened during Saturday nights but it was different. Andy Ruiz was reluctant in letting his hands go. He looks like saving his stamina for the late rounds and because of that Luis Ortiz was able to finish the whole twelve rounds. The fight was a draw if not for the three knockdowns by Andy Ruiz. Two judges had it 6 rounds each and the other judge had Ortiz seven rounds to Ortiz's five. I was amazed the fight attracted many fans.

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 05, 2022, 07:38:42 PM

^^ Regarding the Flores vs Mares fight. I had Flores winning, by a slim margin in my unofficial scorecard. Just to note though that Mares comes from a 4 year lay-off and the fight is in his hometown and he is a Al Haymon fighter if I can remember it correctly. So there is some biased in terms of the judges, at least that's how I saw it.

He had a good first 3-4 rounds, as he caught Flores several times. But Flores fought back up to the 10th round. And he has won the last 2 rounds for me and that should be enough for him to secure this victory by at least split decision.

That is why I have posted it here, I am pretty much puzzled about the 2 Draw result fights and regarding the Mares VS Flores fight I was really puzzled about it, Abner Mares has a good start and during the 5th round he has slowed down a bit maybe he is now feeling the fatigue if you see on this LINK Abner Mares is likely got many rounds 1st to 4th rounds the 6th and the 8th rounds that is for Mares, that is 6 rounds in total while Miguel Flores got 5th, 7th, and 9th to 10th rounds that will be just 4 rounds in total, while on the score cards Patrick Russell has given 95 for Mares and 95 for Flores while Zachary Young give 95 for Mares and 95 for Flores aswell and with Rudy Barragan has given 96 for Mares and 94 for Flores making Abner Mares the winner, but why the Draw result? I was really puzzled by this actually

well on the next event on boxing we got Claressa Shields VS, Savannah Marshall, on September 10, Canelo Alvarez VS Gennadiy Golovkin, on September 17, and the most awaited and I think I love to really see the Devin Haney vs. George Kambosos Jr. on October 15, on the later days I will surely post the said events here,

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Quote from: BitDane on September 05, 2022, 07:44:38 PM

Quote from: Japinat on September 05, 2022, 01:59:50 PM

Exactly, we know that Money Mayweather wouldn't turn down such fights that will give him guaranteed big money in just several minutes of fighting in the ring along with the amateur boxers in Japan, and of course, his win is also guaranteed on top of that Grin

even if he will say again that he will put his professional record on the line.

I got an impression that Floyd Mayweather is a businessman first, a boxer second. He always make sure that he has the better share of the pie, that he will win the fight, and that the referee will always be on his side, he has money to buy them all. Investment at its best!!! Grin

There are many people that hold this against Floyd but I a don't see why that is the case, it should be obvious that every single boxer is looking out for their own self-interests, the difference is that Floyd has done an amazing job and that is why he has been so successful in his career and his monetary gains have been impressive, so I only have respect for him as a professional, even if when it comes to his personality he is nowhere near my favorite boxer.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on September 04, 2022, 07:43:52 PM

as this type of boxing match is still selling tickets, the promoters behind this activity will continue to take advantage of this situation. but would be nice if they are setting-up good exhibition matches and not just because of clear intentions of pocketing the money from the boxing community. from time to time, we need entertainment. but should at least worth our pennies. and not just pulled out from somewhere, where the "boxers" themselves are not ready to rumble inside the ring.

Agree with. Exhibition matches between two greats are way better to see rather than those fights between non-professional boxers and mostly cross-matching from different industries. More people will be interested to buy tickets at these fights compared to non-sense matches like non-pro vs Youtubers or players from other sports will jump into boxing etc.

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Quote from: Japinat on September 05, 2022, 01:59:50 PM

Exactly, we know that Money Mayweather wouldn't turn down such fights that will give him guaranteed big money in just several minutes of fighting in the ring along with the amateur boxers in Japan, and of course, his win is also guaranteed on top of that Grin

even if he will say again that he will put his professional record on the line.

I got an impression that Floyd Mayweather is a businessman first, a boxer second. He always make sure that he has the better share of the pie, that he will win the fight, and that the referee will always be on his side, he has money to buy them all. Investment at its best!!! Grin

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