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Hehehe, for sure the brothers can offer Manny a fight, as someone suggested in a catch weight and it could generate huge money for both of them. I don't think Manny is hard to negotiate though, so it can be made as long as the money in the table is very attractive.

As far as the chances of the Paul brothers getting knock out, maybe they can put it in the contract that Manny should take some brakes. Or at least they will have to survived the whole fight just like in the Floyd vs Logan wherein there is no winner and Floyd at times has the change to knock him out but he didn't pull it.

That unexpected turn of event and change of opponent probably really got him. Only a few time left for his preparation to go along with Ugas and that has led him to that loss.

There is still a lot of things that he can do now, the record that he's got will never change and it's stick to the history. He's one of the respected boxers in the world and he has made a lot of admiration not just for him but also for his country.

But that will be interesting if these brothers try to offer something to him for an exhibition. I think they can afford him since they've afforded the other opponents they've challenged. Well, they have to remember, he's a real boxer though. 

More money and much lighter preparation if Manny will choose to do exhibition for sure there are a still lot of fans who wanted to witness him inside the ring, but professionally wise, I don't think he still need to prove something he already earned the respect from this sport and there's nothing to prove.

In terms of politics, maybe he still has that desire, but maybe it's better for him to focus on helping people without any position, a genuine care and not because of anything in return.

Yes, Manny can still fight professionally if he chose to do so but he knows well that he ain't the same Manny anymore that the people knew and his skills are not the same when he was still in his prime. It's still a good idea to do some fights in the form of exhibition fight and that way he can still do his passions in boxing.

Maybe soon, we can see him running for a senatorial seat or maybe he will go back and run as a congressman.

He has retired already, he will not get back in professional boxing anymore, maybe more exhibition fights, that way he can still earn millions. Pacquiao though not anymore in Politics but his family is, and I'm pretty sure he is the one supporting them, maybe next election, we will see Pacman winning the senatorial race again.

Here is the result and what could have happened to the fights

Canelo Álvarez VS Gennadiy Golovkin ROUND 12 - DECISION - WIN

Definitely a slow pace fight and a close fight aswell, I really don't know if these two are just sparring at each other and surely both have the accuracy in getting those punches, while I have seen that Canelo Alvarez has landed some hard shots on triple G that was definitely just swayed by triple G and it seem it doesn't do much damage, but it was really a close fight and many will say that it was a draw fight so why it was not a draw, well this fight is not looking good at Canelo Alvarez career, despite that he won this fight, he is younger than Golovkin, with an 8 years gap, but GGG has withstood Canelo's punches these means Canelo isn't hurting Golovkin much, and surely it was a slow fight in my opinion,

Jesse Rodriguez VS Israel Gonzalez ROUND 12 - DECISION - WIN

Israel Gonzalez is a volume puncher that he keeps on getting those jabs to Rodriguez, and the referee has constantly warning Rodriguez that he is getting those headbutts more often, and in round 3 Rodriguez is just firing up his shots to Gonzalez and it was bursting, now I think that Bam Rodriguez now on the advance rounds have taken to the level his aggressiveness, to taken more shot score, and I think because Gonzalez was having some headbutt on Rodriguez he has gotten negative points, so this is a win for Rodriguez but it was really a close match just like the Canelo and triple G fight,

Ali Akhmedov VS Gabriel Rosado ROUND 10 - DECISION - WIN

I think Ali Akhmedov was more patient and faster than Rosado, the timing was great in getting those punches in, but that tremendous durability of Gabriel Rosado has save him from getting knockout, it was a great fight for Ali Akhmedov pressuring his opponent to the corner and giving great patient in landing those shots,

You're right, really the exhibition fights are not bad but what I don't like is that it's already like a dramatization, they usually do them with iconic boxers, I remember when they were speculating about a possible fight and they had looked for Miker Tyson , that in fact he did not want to, perhaps because of how it is arranged he is not a man to be dramatizing, he is one more type of shock to make a good fight and to give a great show, he only reminded me of the fight of him when he took half an ear off the other boxer, I was small when I saw that, but I remember as if it had been today, it was something I couldn't believe.


Well, I think that Pacquiao should fight, and the weight category should not exceed 160lb, so he still has a lot to prove, I don't know very well if he is still focused on politics, that's what he does It disconcerts him, and I think it is one of the things that makes him stop with respect to everything that his professional career represents, something like that happened to him when he was going to face Mayweather that practically what he did was run all over the ring, so I think this time he needs to prepare with everything, because not only for his fans but for all the Filipino people who still believe in him and his followers worldwide.

probably, as Manny's critics will say, he is the king of catchweight during his prime, reign of terror, winning 8 titles in different weight class, I doubt that it can be duplicated.

So yeah, why not fight at a catch weight? not sure who is going to fight him amongst the Paul brothers though. If my memory serves me right, Manny can fight as high as Middleweight, around 158 lbs and that could be the biggest weight that he can go because of his frame. But whatever, if there is a lot of money in the table, for sure there will meet somewhere in the middle to make this fight.

I am expecting a catch-weight if this happens .   Manny is to light to fight Paul Brothers, they are in a heavier category which is quite too heavy from Manny's division.  If this happens and not a catch-weight fight, this will be very dangerous for Manny.


Well, Ugas benefitted from the event.  Luck, as many movies, and anime say, is part of a person's ability/skill 

For sure, maybe the Paul brothers are just waiting for Manny to make a comeback and then invite them to a fight. But not sure about the weight though, in any case we will have to see.

Regarding Manny's focus, I do believed that he is focus on his fight with Spence that time and there was no distraction on his political side. He even asked the grace of Senate that he will take a leave of absence so that he can concentrate and bring glory to the Philippines again by fight Spence. But we all know what happened next, it was Ugas who beat him next and then he decided to retire.

It is sure thing that Manny is busy on that time since he is preparing for presidency.  The thought of having to much in mind probably take toll on Manny's capability to adopt the new strategy when he learned about Ugas replacement.  After all he has been training the strategy prepared for his opponent then suddenly a new opponent is announced as a replacement with different play style.  So I guess, the pressure of deciding of running for presidency also gives a huge effect on his training.

He's also busy during that time IIRC. But can be said that it's one of the big problem that he has to consider on that exact match day.

All right, thank you. Yeah, it was short notice when it was said that the original opponent was going to be replaced. And it was like the first time that I've seen sudden change of opponent for an official and pro match.

It wasn't his busy schedule that made him lose the fight.  It is the lack of strategy preparation and training on that strategy that made him lose.  He also stated it in the interview.  His failure to adjust to a different opponent since his training is for Spence but was replaced by Ugas.  So all the strategy and training on that strategy goes wasted and Manny has to reboot his training and strategy which does not come easy.  Even though his body condition is perfect, he needs to change his boxing strategy 11 days before the fight which he failed resulting in his defeat.



The core problem isn't being busy but he failed to adapt to the playstyle of the replacement.


Ugas is the replacement and I think it was 11 days before the fight.  So a sudden change in strategy in a short notice seems to be too much for Manny.

Yeah, I guess that it will be a different story if he's not doing other things with his last match.

But that's it, it's better to accept it on his end and he'll just move on and do some other things to make himself busy. IIRC, the fighter was even changed at that very last minute of time and it wasn't Ugas, right?

Well, that wasn't the plan or it was the plan I guess together with the management. Wherever he goes, I'll still support him for his matches whether it'll be just for exhibitions.

I think if it's going to be about the focus, that's where the problem starts. He can multi task and he believes on that while being a public official and a boxer, a pastor and now with other businesses that he's partnered with.

I've heard that his wife is already set for good and she doesn't want Manny to get back in boxing because they're already rich and can live the rest of their lives into so many generations for their kids without having problem.

Here is my pick and prediction for the Canelo vs. GGG 3

Canelo Álvarez VS Gennadiy Golovkin

The Trilogy fight surely needs answers, but in their 1st fight it was surely a slow pace beginning rounds, in my opinion, Canelo Alvarez was on the advantage, and it was really a controversial result, but in their 2nd fight Canelo Alvarez has proven that he surely win their 1st fight, so in this trilogy fight I think I will go in favor with Canelo Alvarez,

Jesse Rodriguez VS Israel Gonzalez

for this fight, the younger Jesse Rodriguez really has a decent record that Israel Gonzalez and Rodriguez really getting with those KO/TKO wins he really keeps on going on with the kill, while Israel Gonzalez seems ok with his decision wins, so for me, Jesse Rodriguez might have a shot in winning here, so my pick will be Rodriguez,

Ali Akhmedov VS Gabriel Rosado

Even though Gabriel Rosado has the advantage on his reach and height, for me I am surely not mesmerized by his fight records while Ali Alhmedov pretty much has the punching power to KO his opponent and with those good records he racks on for me Ali Akhmedov is my pick here,

And maybe there are too many things going into the mind of Senator Pacquiao that time, yes, he might have given all his time and focus to train, but the plan was put out of the window when Spence is not available and then Ugas step in as the replacement.

And so if he wanted to make a comeback in pro boxing (not exhibition), Manny should shelve off everything in the table and focus on the fight at hand. But I guess still up to him if he wishes to make a comeback or not. Maybe his family doesn't want him to do so because he is not that young anymore. He can do exhibition just to keep him in fighting, at least he won't get the damage as severe as if he make a pro fight comeback.

He can still fight but having that thought of doing other priorities will make him less than with the best that he can. Manny can still make a lot of money with his fame and body through his age but I agree just for these showmatches and not with pro anymore.

And what if the crazy mind of the Paul brothers would come to that point that any of them would invite Manny to a showmatch and sure, it will make him a lot of money to be honest. More than probably the usual amount he's getting from his pro matches.

That's right! But if only Manny Pacquiao wasn't that busy enough in his last fight then I seriously bet that the outcome of the fight would be much different and Yordenis Ugas would be the one who got defeated. Pacquiao was too busy that time he is also a senator while he is also preparing to run for presidency and then he got a fight.

It's possible, I mean we aren't the ones who are calling the shot, but I think it is too early for Thurman to have his turn to fight Ennis without getting a fight against Ugas first because Ugas bets Pacman while Thurman have lost to Pacman. Thurman needs to climb through the rank too and overcome Ugas before he gets to fight Ennis and then the winner will get his chance to fight Spence or Crawford.