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September 22, 2022, 02:48:32 PM
Manny can actually run fundraising for charities or even donate using his own wealth like what he used to do to help people in the Philippines. He usually uses his own money to help the poor so I don't doubt his purpose this time. I'm sure that he really wants to help a charity but he also wants to pursue his passion at the same time. He can't go to another regular match since he already announced his retirement so he will be doing the charity works the way he will enjoy his passion. It's also exciting to see the boxing champ in the ring again after a long time.

It is possible.  Aside from giving in to the request of some of his fans, he also has a way to put more money in his stash and at the same time gather funds for some charities.

Even though I believe Manny is a kind-hearted charity oriented person, I cannot remove the possibility that he accepted the fight for monetary purposes.  Besides, the exhibition fight doesn't have to put anyone at risk since they can always put anything on the contract including not hurting each other but just to showcase their fighting skills and technique.

He's not in politics anymore so I don't think there's a political agenda behind this exhibition match. He might only want to do the sport that he used to enjoy before and as for me, he should still grab the chance as long as he still has strong stamina to enjoy boxing.

Who knows, probably he will run again on the next election if not a president, senator or congressman maybe.  But I believe this exhibition fight is pure sports since the election isn't around yet.
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September 22, 2022, 02:31:10 PM
^ It's already getting hype by both camps, as Zayani said that he wouldn't hold in this exhibition fight and Manny says the same. If that is the case then we might see a full blown fight.

And regarding Canelo, he responded to David Benavidez dad, as we all know David's father said that his son will beat Canelo.

But Canelo doesn't want to give David the fight because he hasn't accomplished any.

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“I see his dad talking a lot of sh!t,” Alvarez said. “Look what he’s accomplished – nothing. [He beat] one, single champion, Anthony Dirrell. Please, don’t disrespect [me]. Please, guys.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-i-see-benavidezs-dad-talking-lot-sht-look-what-hes-accomplished-nothing--169178

David should know the word patience and not to pursue some fights that will be ugly for him as it's not his time to face Canelo yet, as said above, David may have a pretty nice record but he can't boast that to Canelo yet because the latter will just give David his ugly moments that he won't probably forget. Canelo was just giving the kid a chance to grow on his own time and phase, David will have his chance soon but not this time.

And it just shows that Canelo might have other plans in the horizon after winning against Canelo. No doubt that David is a rising star in the super middle weight division. But I don't see him beating a prime Canelo. Maybe in the next 2 -3 years, maybe he will have his chance against him, but for now, his father should look on how to build his son and face opponents that will more likely see if he has the potential to become the next future star at 168 lbs instead of chasing Canelo and look for that biggest payday.

No news yet about Canelo yet on whom he will likely face next because he just came out from a trilogy fight against his long rival, Golovkin. Some rumors saying that he will activate his rematch after Bivol-Ramirez fight but I guess Canelo will not activate that if Ramirez will win because Bivol won't have belts by that time.

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No doubt that David is a rising star in the super middle weight division. But I don't see him beating a prime Canelo.

Yes, David needed to climb through the ranks until he can be in the position next to Canelo or #3 in the supper middle weight. I guess that will be in the next few years when he is at the height of his prime and by that time, probably, he'd score against Canelo as the Mexican undisputed champion is not in his prime anymore.
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September 22, 2022, 12:25:51 PM
Manny's known for helping charity so that's really going to be one of his goal when it's up to these profits that he'll make from these matches. Since there are matches that's on his line up, this could really possible to happen in the near future after these fights that he's about to have.

The two fights that he has isn't that far from each other's schedule but with DK Yoo, it's just an exhibition so there's really no preparation needed for him to have.

While he's going to have that match with DK as a charity match, his former sparring partner Jaber is just also another exhibition match.

The proceeds of their fight will go to the charity for Ukraine.

In this kind of exhibition fans do buy tickets just to see their idol inside the ring, they are not expecting that much but still they will be more entertained if happen that they will see exchanges of punches, and knowing Manny he will not be shy to showcase his remaining skills, that shadow punches that he keeps on throwing I really missed those glory years where we see his opponent not knowing where the punches will be coming from.

Though again, exhibition fights are for money making deals and the good thing here is they have the charity that will receive portions of profits from this schedule events.
Well, it's actually more of the entertainment that they want to see and one of it is to see their idol. But knowing the fact that the ticket they're paying for will go to the charity.

That will make them more hype on this match because it is for a good cause. There could even fans that would just buy a ticket without watching the exhibition match because they want just to help.

The split of money is there but the main idea is all about the charity.

Not sure about that possibilities, I mean the ticket is expensive, maybe yes there are some millionaires who can afford to buy but the majority will still watch this fight, it's Pacquiao and they are still believing that even if it's only an exhibition, they will be impress from the speed that Pacquiao still got even he's away from this sport. Maybe there would be some satisfied viewers that can say that Pacquiao still has it and still can continue for a real fight. Don't know but that possibilities still there once we've seen him inside the ring even it's just an exhibition.

Though the main purpose is for the benefits of this fight beneficiaries but we don't know what or how the performer will bring the entertainment to the fans and audiences that will support and buy the tickets.
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September 22, 2022, 10:40:50 AM
Well, it's actually more of the entertainment that they want to see and one of it is to see their idol. But knowing the fact that the ticket they're paying for will go to the charity.

That will make them more hype on this match because it is for a good cause. There could even fans that would just buy a ticket without watching the exhibition match because they want just to help.

The split of money is there but the main idea is all about the charity.

I Agree, an exhibition match like this can surely generate a huge sum of profit and money for them, and knowing Pacquiao really likes charity work it could be possible he doesn't hesitate in getting into this fight just to give to the people, but for me, he doesn't need to do such things, if this is to really help out then it is OK but if this could have a hidden agenda or for politics purposed then I really don't like it, in actually I like him as a boxer, an artist and father to his kids, and doing charitable work, or being a senator, but I am against him running for Presidency, for me, he is not really cut to being President,
It's already set and that's one reason why he has accepted the deal for this match, knowing that it's for a charity cause he never escalated and thought twice.

I don't see him doing this with political agenda. He's already past that and he's more for anything he want to do and all of these fights, I guess that his passion for boxing is just hard to remove even if he's already announced retirement.
Manny can actually run fundraising for charities or even donate using his own wealth like what he used to do to help people in the Philippines. He usually uses his own money to help the poor so I don't doubt his purpose this time. I'm sure that he really wants to help a charity but he also wants to pursue his passion at the same time. He can't go to another regular match since he already announced his retirement so he will be doing the charity works the way he will enjoy his passion. It's also exciting to see the boxing champ in the ring again after a long time. He's not in politics anymore so I don't think there's a political agenda behind this exhibition match. He might only want to do the sport that he used to enjoy before and as for me, he should still grab the chance as long as he still has strong stamina to enjoy boxing.
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September 22, 2022, 05:26:21 AM
Well, it's actually more of the entertainment that they want to see and one of it is to see their idol. But knowing the fact that the ticket they're paying for will go to the charity.

That will make them more hype on this match because it is for a good cause. There could even fans that would just buy a ticket without watching the exhibition match because they want just to help.

The split of money is there but the main idea is all about the charity.

I Agree, an exhibition match like this can surely generate a huge sum of profit and money for them, and knowing Pacquiao really likes charity work it could be possible he doesn't hesitate in getting into this fight just to give to the people, but for me, he doesn't need to do such things, if this is to really help out then it is OK but if this could have a hidden agenda or for politics purposed then I really don't like it, in actually I like him as a boxer, an artist and father to his kids, and doing charitable work, or being a senator, but I am against him running for Presidency, for me, he is not really cut to being President,
It's already set and that's one reason why he has accepted the deal for this match, knowing that it's for a charity cause he never escalated and thought twice.

I don't see him doing this with political agenda. He's already past that and he's more for anything he want to do and all of these fights, I guess that his passion for boxing is just hard to remove even if he's already announced retirement.
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September 22, 2022, 03:48:07 AM

The fight tickets will surely sell-out if a date will be determined soon. Anyway, I didn't really expected that, why would Manny fight his former sparring partner in an exhibition fight? Is there some beef between them that I didn't know? Or this is just a born rivalry inside the camp? I'm starting to get curious because out of all boxers or any fighters out there, Manny is going to have an exhibition fight to his former sparring partner, Jaber.

I don't think they have some beef, for me signing the contract for an Exhibition fight was really what Manny Pacquiao is after while Jaber Zayani just really wants to fight Pacquaio just a confirmation if his skills really improve I think this is just a fight to help Jaber Zayani with his career and while getting Jaber Zayani ready for a much upper fight in Zayani's career, and fighting Pacquaio could also mean one thing an Exhibition match surely provide a lot of money, and I think Jaber Zayani is saying that he will not think this fight as an exhibition only fight and will be giving his all is that he truly knows what Manny Pacquiao is really capable off and to hype the fight,


Well, it's actually more of the entertainment that they want to see and one of it is to see their idol. But knowing the fact that the ticket they're paying for will go to the charity.

That will make them more hype on this match because it is for a good cause. There could even fans that would just buy a ticket without watching the exhibition match because they want just to help.

The split of money is there but the main idea is all about the charity.

I Agree, an exhibition match like this can surely generate a huge sum of profit and money for them, and knowing Pacquiao really likes charity work it could be possible he doesn't hesitate in getting into this fight just to give to the people, but for me, he doesn't need to do such things, if this is to really help out then it is OK but if this could have a hidden agenda or for politics purposed then I really don't like it, in actually I like him as a boxer, an artist and father to his kids, and doing charitable work, or being a senator, but I am against him running for Presidency, for me, he is not really cut to being President,


Do you seriously think Manny cared much about his record like Mayweather? Manny did not duck a single fight, who ever comes up to the table he'd always gladly accept every challenge that comes along his way all throughout the 8 divisions.
He decided to resign because he has done more than enough and father time is already calling.
Also, nobody is having a death wish in an exhibition matches. DK Yoo or even Jake Paul is also trained to be a fighter. While Manny and Anderson are all past their prime. This isn't a serious match anyway.


Probable and probably not, who would probably don't want to settle down with a good record right, but Manny Pacquiao is the one that can answer this, I am just giving my opinion in what I think, even though Manny Pacquiao has some losses I have said that he doesn't want to probably tainted even more his record with losses and I agree he resign because he way passes his prime already and he has had enough, that his body can not handle anymore, and I also think that Exhibition match is way safer that with regular fights,
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September 22, 2022, 02:24:48 AM
Do you seriously think Manny cared much about his record like Mayweather? Manny did not duck a single fight, who ever comes up to the table he'd always gladly accept every challenge that comes along his way all throughout the 8 divisions.
He decided to resign because he has done more than enough and father time is already calling.
Also, nobody is having a death wish in an exhibition matches. DK Yoo or even Jake Paul is also trained to be a fighter. While Manny and Anderson are all past their prime. This isn't a serious match anyway.

Agree with what you say, we know that Manny during his career in the ring I never saw him avoid a single match and I appreciate that because that is a very good thing in my opinion.
Even if we look at his last fight against Ugas because it was Spence's time which was originally scheduled to be postponed because he said he had a problem with his eyes at that time.
Even though he lost at the end and decided to hang up his boxing gloves, he is still one of the people I think is a legend.
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Yes, Manny can still fight professionally if he chose to do so but he knows well that he ain't the same Manny anymore that the people knew and his skills are not the same when he was still in his prime. It's still a good idea to do some fights in the form of exhibition fight and that way he can still do his passions in boxing.

Maybe soon, we can see him running for a senatorial seat or maybe he will go back and run as a congressman.

yes, he can still fight but I don't think he would risk to tainted his record with losses upon his retirement, I think he had already felt it in him that he can not last anymore it is good for him to just focus on exhibition matches that are not that risky even an amateur can surely go and fight with a well known retired boxer, for me DK Yoo is an amateur boxer and he will likely be pursuing his death wish fighting Manny Pacquiao,
And speaking of exhibition matches Jake Paul is challenging Anderson Silva, I think Jake Paul has a death wish aswell,

Do you seriously think Manny cared much about his record like Mayweather? Manny did not duck a single fight, who ever comes up to the table he'd always gladly accept every challenge that comes along his way all throughout the 8 divisions.
He decided to resign because he has done more than enough and father time is already calling.
Also, nobody is having a death wish in an exhibition matches. DK Yoo or even Jake Paul is also trained to be a fighter. While Manny and Anderson are all past their prime. This isn't a serious match anyway.


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September 22, 2022, 01:20:27 AM
Manny's known for helping charity so that's really going to be one of his goal when it's up to these profits that he'll make from these matches.

The exhibition match between Manny Pacquiao and South Korean YouTuber and martial artist DK Yoo will be organized as a pure entertainment match as what an exhibition match should look like. The match doesn't have a specific charity project that will support it, instead, both participants have their own plan for their earnings and proceeds.

Instead, and as you mentioned, some of Pacquiao's earnings here will be used to support his own project, Pacman Project. While on other hand, Yoo will give assistance to relieve operations in Ukraine. How will be the exact share of the cake was not disclosed.
Thanks for specifying and more clarity about the share and where they'll put the profits from this exhibition match that they'll do.

We need more sports athletes like him who have amasses so much money in their prime.
I'm sure that most of the athletes has their own charities to support and the majority of them has a good heart. Some just don't want to share it on the public on which charities they're helping.

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September 21, 2022, 10:27:44 PM
Kind of crazy that Mayweather is saying him and McGregor are going to rematch and McGregor is saying he’s not interested. Starting to seem like Mayweather is losing his shine a bit if he’s chasing MMA fighters around for fights. I sort of thought he’d be retired by now but he keeps fighting exhibitions. He’s addicted to boxing.
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September 21, 2022, 09:16:56 PM
Manny's known for helping charity so that's really going to be one of his goal when it's up to these profits that he'll make from these matches.

The exhibition match between Manny Pacquiao and South Korean YouTuber and martial artist DK Yoo will be organized as a pure entertainment match as what an exhibition match should look like. The match doesn't have a specific charity project that will support it, instead, both participants have their own plan for their earnings and proceeds.

Instead, and as you mentioned, some of Pacquiao's earnings here will be used to support his own project, Pacman Project. While on other hand, Yoo will give assistance to relieve operations in Ukraine. How will be the exact share of the cake was not disclosed.

That's what good about Manny though, even if he didn't win the Presidential election, he still find ways to help through his charity program.

And if the money being generated here will go to his projects then God bless his soul. We need more sports athletes like him who have amasses so much money in their prime. Maybe it's time to give it back to the people like what Manny Pacquiao is doing in the Philippines.
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September 21, 2022, 07:04:11 PM
Manny's known for helping charity so that's really going to be one of his goal when it's up to these profits that he'll make from these matches.

The exhibition match between Manny Pacquiao and South Korean YouTuber and martial artist DK Yoo will be organized as a pure entertainment match as what an exhibition match should look like. The match doesn't have a specific charity project that will support it, instead, both participants have their own plan for their earnings and proceeds.

Instead, and as you mentioned, some of Pacquiao's earnings here will be used to support his own project, Pacman Project. While on other hand, Yoo will give assistance to relieve operations in Ukraine. How will be the exact share of the cake was not disclosed.

It is nice to see a boxing legend use his sports to help needy people.
Most of these exhibition fighters are just pocketing their purses.
At least, the money spent by boxing fans are worth it as it can alleviate some sort of suffering by their chosen organizations.
I am not against with exhibition matches if there is some value to it.
But if it is just for the pocket of the promoter and boxer, I believe people will think twice of buying their ticket.
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Manny's known for helping charity so that's really going to be one of his goal when it's up to these profits that he'll make from these matches.

The exhibition match between Manny Pacquiao and South Korean YouTuber and martial artist DK Yoo will be organized as a pure entertainment match as what an exhibition match should look like. The match doesn't have a specific charity project that will support it, instead, both participants have their own plan for their earnings and proceeds.

Instead, and as you mentioned, some of Pacquiao's earnings here will be used to support his own project, Pacman Project. While on other hand, Yoo will give assistance to relieve operations in Ukraine. How will be the exact share of the cake was not disclosed.
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September 21, 2022, 05:22:46 PM
Manny's known for helping charity so that's really going to be one of his goal when it's up to these profits that he'll make from these matches. Since there are matches that's on his line up, this could really possible to happen in the near future after these fights that he's about to have.

The two fights that he has isn't that far from each other's schedule but with DK Yoo, it's just an exhibition so there's really no preparation needed for him to have.

While he's going to have that match with DK as a charity match, his former sparring partner Jaber is just also another exhibition match.

The proceeds of their fight will go to the charity for Ukraine.

In this kind of exhibition fans do buy tickets just to see their idol inside the ring, they are not expecting that much but still they will be more entertained if happen that they will see exchanges of punches, and knowing Manny he will not be shy to showcase his remaining skills, that shadow punches that he keeps on throwing I really missed those glory years where we see his opponent not knowing where the punches will be coming from.

Though again, exhibition fights are for money making deals and the good thing here is they have the charity that will receive portions of profits from this schedule events.
Well, it's actually more of the entertainment that they want to see and one of it is to see their idol. But knowing the fact that the ticket they're paying for will go to the charity.

That will make them more hype on this match because it is for a good cause. There could even fans that would just buy a ticket without watching the exhibition match because they want just to help.

The split of money is there but the main idea is all about the charity.
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September 21, 2022, 04:36:17 PM
^ It's already getting hype by both camps, as Zayani said that he wouldn't hold in this exhibition fight and Manny says the same. If that is the case then we might see a full blown fight.

And regarding Canelo, he responded to David Benavidez dad, as we all know David's father said that his son will beat Canelo.

But Canelo doesn't want to give David the fight because he hasn't accomplished any.

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“I see his dad talking a lot of sh!t,” Alvarez said. “Look what he’s accomplished – nothing. [He beat] one, single champion, Anthony Dirrell. Please, don’t disrespect [me]. Please, guys.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-i-see-benavidezs-dad-talking-lot-sht-look-what-hes-accomplished-nothing--169178

David should know the word patience and not to pursue some fights that will be ugly for him as it's not his time to face Canelo yet, as said above, David may have a pretty nice record but he can't boast that to Canelo yet because the latter will just give David his ugly moments that he won't probably forget. Canelo was just giving the kid a chance to grow on his own time and phase, David will have his chance soon but not this time.

And it just shows that Canelo might have other plans in the horizon after winning against Canelo. No doubt that David is a rising star in the super middle weight division. But I don't see him beating a prime Canelo. Maybe in the next 2 -3 years, maybe he will have his chance against him, but for now, his father should look on how to build his son and face opponents that will more likely see if he has the potential to become the next future star at 168 lbs instead of chasing Canelo and look for that biggest payday.
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September 21, 2022, 03:40:11 PM
^ It's already getting hype by both camps, as Zayani said that he wouldn't hold in this exhibition fight and Manny says the same. If that is the case then we might see a full blown fight.

And regarding Canelo, he responded to David Benavidez dad, as we all know David's father said that his son will beat Canelo.

But Canelo doesn't want to give David the fight because he hasn't accomplished any.

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“I see his dad talking a lot of sh!t,” Alvarez said. “Look what he’s accomplished – nothing. [He beat] one, single champion, Anthony Dirrell. Please, don’t disrespect [me]. Please, guys.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-i-see-benavidezs-dad-talking-lot-sht-look-what-hes-accomplished-nothing--169178

David should know the word patience and not to pursue some fights that will be ugly for him as it's not his time to face Canelo yet, as said above, David may have a pretty nice record but he can't boast that to Canelo yet because the latter will just give David his ugly moments that he won't probably forget. Canelo was just giving the kid a chance to grow on his own time and phase, David will have his chance soon but not this time.
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2. Manny Pacquiao vs. Jaber Zayani - February 2023 (Saudi Arabia)
So this is Manny's former sparring partner? Just so weird that Manny had to accept this fight, but in any case if this is going to be made in Saudi, then for sure money are going to flow in this one as we all know that this is a rich Arab nation and they are all crazy on boxing in the last couple of years. So it will be good for Manny if he will be exposed in the Middle East, but for sure he has a lot of fans there. So he will be busy after his December fight with a South Korean Youtuber and then Feb with Zayani.



The fight tickets will surely sell-out if a date will be determined soon. Anyway, I didn't really expected that, why would Manny fight his former sparring partner in an exhibition fight? Is there some beef between them that I didn't know? Or this is just a born rivalry inside the camp? I'm starting to get curious because out of all boxers or any fighters out there, Manny is going to have an exhibition fight to his former sparring partner, Jaber.
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September 21, 2022, 11:17:08 AM

Agree, that's one thing to describe if one of them will pick a fight with against Pacquiao and I have no doubt as well that the fight will surely generate millions of revenues plus PPV-buys if there's indeed a fight that will likely happen soon of Manny Pacquiao against one of the two Paul Bros. in an exhibition match, surely that fight will be epic and fun to watch if it will materialize soon.

But for now, Pacman has already 2 fights queued in his comeback.
 1. Manny Pacquiao vs DK Yoo - December 10 (Seoul, South Kore)
 2. Manny Pacquiao vs. Jaber Zayani - February 2023 (Saudi Arabia)


WOW! Pacquiao is getting really ready until the next year, this is surely for his profit gain, most of those exhibition matches that he is establishing, and knowing Manny Pacquaio this money that he will be getting with those Exhibition fights half of those will be going to the needy people because some of this money will be given as a donation that is why for me I would surely like Manny Pacquaio to get many exhibition fights if he can still do it, and if the Paul Brothers would likely want a fight with PACMAN that would be great because I think that fight will be big money, and also a Floyd Mayweather fight will be profitable for him, that is for sure,

I saw this one lately and he's really going to be back with another match after his fight in South Korea. Well, not that much going to say as he's still a boxer no matter what he went through with all of those politics and other commitments he did. But I'm sure many would be mad against him after telling that he's really going after retirement during the elections.

An 8-time world division championship boxer is surely not just a title the hardship he did in getting it was really remarkable for me Pacquiao is really something but because of his age, I think it's better to have him fight on these exhibition fights than with a regular match and it is better that he is already retired, and because I think there is more money with this kind of fights,
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September 21, 2022, 05:55:32 AM
Ohhh, Yeah. Very likely since they're the ones who makes contract, they can put those conditions that could favorable to them. But, I'm thinking if they'll put it on the contract on who's going to be a winner then and if they'll include it that it should them.

If there's a clause like that, I don't think that Manny will be obliged.  Tongue

 Cheesy, well it is an exhibition fight so anything is possible if agreed by the two camps.  I think in this fight, it isn't about honor or ranking but the entertainment the fans can get plus the money they can gather, may it be for charity purposes or personal gain.  But with the character of Manny, I think part of the money raised will be donated to some charity organization.  If that happen, I believe the money fans spend on the fight is considered worth it because

1. Having to watch their idol fight once again
2. Being able to help a certain charity organization.
Manny's known for helping charity so that's really going to be one of his goal when it's up to these profits that he'll make from these matches. Since there are matches that's on his line up, this could really possible to happen in the near future after these fights that he's about to have.

The two fights that he has isn't that far from each other's schedule but with DK Yoo, it's just an exhibition so there's really no preparation needed for him to have.

While he's going to have that match with DK as a charity match, his former sparring partner Jaber is just also another exhibition match.

The proceeds of their fight will go to the charity for Ukraine.

In this kind of exhibition fans do buy tickets just to see their idol inside the ring, they are not expecting that much but still they will be more entertained if happen that they will see exchanges of punches, and knowing Manny he will not be shy to showcase his remaining skills, that shadow punches that he keeps on throwing I really missed those glory years where we see his opponent not knowing where the punches will be coming from.

Though again, exhibition fights are for money making deals and the good thing here is they have the charity that will receive portions of profits from this schedule events.
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September 21, 2022, 04:49:07 AM
^ It's already getting hype by both camps, as Zayani said that he wouldn't hold in this exhibition fight and Manny says the same. If that is the case then we might see a full blown fight.

And regarding Canelo, he responded to David Benavidez dad, as we all know David's father said that his son will beat Canelo.

But Canelo doesn't want to give David the fight because he hasn't accomplished any.

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“I see his dad talking a lot of sh!t,” Alvarez said. “Look what he’s accomplished – nothing. [He beat] one, single champion, Anthony Dirrell. Please, don’t disrespect [me]. Please, guys.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-i-see-benavidezs-dad-talking-lot-sht-look-what-hes-accomplished-nothing--169178
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