Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 198. (Read 30506 times)

It is very possible that the fight between Thurman and Ugas will go a distance.  Ugas is somehow a defensive fighter so it would be a challenge for Thurman to crack Ugas' defense.  This will be an interesting fight between a boxer that defeated Manny and a Boxer that is defeated by Manny. 

Even though Thurman is defeated by Manny, it looks like he will be the crowd favorite between the two.

Yes, it will be a great match and could be 50/50 fight. I'm seeing a Danny Garcia type fight for Thurman, which he edged when they fought by a Split decision, but it was very close that there are fans who think that Garcia won that fight.

However, that was during Thurman's time, haven't been injured and still undefeated. He did make a comeback against  a ballooned 140 lbs in Barrios and fought at 147 lbs. So Ugas might posed a different challenge if ever this two square in the ring and it could go to distance.

I think this is a good chance for Keith Thurman to really show what he can really do inside the ring and to mark that he really returns after that Mario Barrios fight, if Errol Spence and a Terence Crawford would not make it, then either of the two and Keith Thurman is an event saver, but I think Terence Crawford will be a hard fight for Thurman that is for sure, but I think Errol Spence will likely the one that he can have a shot to really win, but this is just my opinion because these two big shots is a real hard fight for Keith Thurman,


If he would fight Ugas for me he could have a really hard time against him that taken down Pacquiao, but good conditioning and he is younger than Pacquiao so he can take on a few shots but I'd say he will not be dominant against Ugas and I really doubt if that could happen Yordenis Ugas is a quite versatile boxer that can suede any damage he took, and Thurman also needs to fill his gas tank because I think Ugas got decent cardio,


That was a very different Manny Pacquiao that is younger, faster, and has that quite devastating punch that could knock out even Ugas, but sadly because of his age, and likely having busy with political roles, all those focused on boxing could not be found in him anymore, for me if he still has those quite sharp punches he can beat Ugas but it is now Keith Thurman's turn and for me, I might take Keith Thurman winning here, he is been beloved by other fans of Pacquiao now that he also become very good friends with Pacquaio, because Manny Pacquiao is a loving fighter that be friended even his recent opponents,

People should not hype Ugas just because he won against Pacquiao. Even I'm not taking any excuses why Pacquiao loses to him, the people's champ is not at his 100% on that fight both physically and mentally. If he will return to ring and fight Thurman, his winning rate is low. Thurman even coming for a long break doesn't have any distractions on his mind when he return to ring.

For sure once Ugas and Thurman face each other, Ugas might now finally retire as Thurman will pulverize him. No offense to Ugas.

I'd say Thurman has a better percentage of winning this one.  Manny is fully prepared and fully trained for the strategy to use when he fight Thurman. While on the other hand, Manny doesn't have enough time to prepare a good strategy for Ugas since Ugas came in as a replacement 11 days before the scheduled fight.  It is also one of the possible reasons Manny stated why he lost when he was interviewed. [1]


Definitely, the last lost of Ugas would give him lessons and pointers on what to improve next.  I think we will be seeing a good matchup here since their tale of the tape isn't far from each other.[2]

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[1] https://youtu.be/V60fqN7wjHI?t=854
[2] https://box.live/fights/ugas-vs-thurman/

This will help Thurman in case the negotiation take place, a good comeback or motivation if ever he beat Ugas who beat Pacquiao who eventually beats him, the moral that Thurman may gain here is something that might push him more to come back and challenge a title holder, though it's not an easy fight as we have seen Ugas and his defensive tactics, too early to though and still needs to wait for any updates if ever a fight for Ugas will take place.

On the money side, it's a good move from his camp, if ever that he or they are planning for his retirement, having a great fight
can bring him a decent amount of money, especially if the promoters will take care of the advertisement.


Thurman have that capabilities it's just so happen that Pacquiao manage to bring him down from the early rounds of their fight but we have seen him fighting back though not enough to impress the judge and the fans, but if ever that they'll be able to push this possible fight, I agree that bookies will favor Thurman here, fan base maybe he will get that edge.

I'd say it's 50/50

Thurman lose against Pacquiao, but Ugas won. Ugas lose against Porter, but Thurman won.

I think the lose from Spence before will giving Ugas a good lesson because this is the first time he got KO'ed and would make him to improve his chin. However if the fight will happen, it's not surprised if Thurman will be favorite because he have better record.

A fight against Thurman would be great, and I think Thurman will win and that would make him one of the top contenders to fight the champion. Imagine, if the fight of Spence vs Crawford will not happen, then we can still see Thurman fighting one of them if the promoter will agree.

It was really unexpected but it is OK, I am really waiting for it because it is an event where all fighters were fighting kittens that is why I am very excited about seeing it, but sad news happen and this sad news is the beloved queen of England and for every people in England sobbing I am also saddened by the passing of the queen, So my deepest and sincere condolences to the people of England and to the royal family,

Anyway, for me, Claressa Shields has the timing when she would land her punches but Savannah Marshall has the length and height advantage so she can easily penetrate Shields guard and space, that is why it is pretty much easy for Marshall to land those jabs, on the 1st 2 round Shield maybe conserving her energy and now moving a lot while Marshall is constantly moving, but for me, Savannah Marshall really won this fight but I guess their skill and technique had already refined so we could see a very different fight for the coming October 15,

Yordenis Ugas Eyes Ring Return Next Year, Targets Keith Thurman, Jaron Ennis, and Vergil Ortiz

Yordenis Ugas might not have that big hype named until he beats Manny Pacquiao and got his best ever title in his entire boxing career, the WBA SuperWelterWeight title that becomes his ticket to fight in an unification match against Errol Spence Jr. who prior to their fight, holding the IBF and WBC welterweight titles. Unfortunately, he failed to win in that match and the direction of his career becomes unclear.

However, he is looking forward returning to the ring next year and some of his targets are Keith Thurman (who didn't fight have an official fight for 31 months but still managed to win unanimously against Mario Barrios on February this year), Vergil Ortiz and Jarron Enis.

Not expecting much from him but good for him to make some money before retiring.

Although everyone knew the outcome and treated the match as a purely entertainment event it's still funny to know that the match ended in a draw.
This makes the point stronger that exhibition match are mostly scripted otherwise Mayweather would have been declared a winner already.

That fight between Logan Paul and Mayweather is literally a straight pot of honey especially for the latter because Logan Paul is a perfect opponent in an exhibition fight, not because he has some talents in boxing and can fairly challenge Mayweather but because Logan Paul has a vast loyal fan base that will really support him whatever he does.

And for Mayweather, knowing that fact alone is already enough for him because he is already assured that their fight will bring them big revenue, and yes it happened.

I knew it mate, you are one of those waiting for this fight to happen, but there are things that are really unexpected and so they have to adjust the schedule fight to October 15 tentatively.

I thinks its more on the side of Shields because she wants to erase the stigma of her lost to Marshall when they were still two of the best amateur prospects. They have bad blood going as I have mentioned since Marshall supposedly beat Shields. Here is the video of the fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AySU_QrrSUo. You'll be the judge as to who actually won.

We can surely guess all we want, but I think we just need to wait for further explanation on both fighters for me if I would give my speculation on why Manny Pacquiao accepted this fight was because of the money, we all know that Manny Pacquiao already has tons of money, but he has run for the presidency last time so for that campaign he would surely need a lot of money for the campaign paraphernalia, and we all know how generous Manny Pacquiao in giving money to the poor, surely he wants to get back what he lost on that campaigning period, well this is what I could think of, the reason on accepting that fight, I know it can be a little down for him to accept the fight for money purposes, but we all know that Manny Pacquaio has once came from a poor family and he is a from rug to riches kind of boxer,


That is why I have to look up on Tapology that the fight was now on October 15, 2022, instead of September 09, it was really a bummer but at the same time pretty much understandable because of the passing of the queen it was really unexpected and shocking at the same time, but it will surely happen and pretty much all of us will go the same fate,

The two ladies are really getting at it on the bad talking but it is really understandable aswell because this is to hype the fight and surely I don't really think this is because of some bad blood between the two, but because of this the fight between Canelo Alvarez vs. Gennadiy Golovkin on September 17, up next,

And this happen like 10 years ago if I'm not mistaken and it's a different era obviously, their style is not the same as when you enter the pro league. I also agree that Claressa should be considered the GWOAT specially if she beats Marshall and get their revenge with a good knockout. But it's going to be delayed us watching this great fight. At least they can continue to trash talk in their social media accounts.

Marshall keeps boasting and keeps repeating that she beat Claressa in their amateur days, that was the amateur days it doesn't carry weight in the pro league, for the first time in the history of woman boxing we have two women rivals as the undisputed and the greatest woman boxer of all time, I still consider Claressa to be the GWOAT, but as they say, to be a man you have to beat the man, it applies to woman boxing too, if Savannah beat Claressa then she is the new GWOAT.

And they have been bitter enemies since their amateur days, Savannah Marshall  has win over Shields and she keep on rubbing it in for the last 10 years that's why Shields wanted to shut her mouth for good in this fight. So there is a lot of trash talking and animosity between the two and this is built as the biggest women's boxing event. Unfortunately, Great Britain and the whole world is mourning the passing of the Queen, and everyone is affected in the country including sports.

I'm very excited to see this match because of the thrash talks that are going on between these two ladies when I read the news, but it's ok to get it moved because of what happened the nation is still mourning the death of the Queen it is just right that it is moved to a new date we must respect the nation in mourning.
Both ladies are very excited to face each other and of course the boxing world they have not seen an intense face off like this to happen and both are also undefeated.

There is no weigh-in, the time was initially moved to 3 pm, until BOXXER decided to postponed it.

The fight though is being moved to the same venue in Oct 15 (tentatively). And not just boxing, but all other sports like football and rugby are either rescheduled and postponed out of respect.

This reminds me of when they wanted the fight between Canelo and GGG, that they always looked for a way to duel before the fights that they loved the most, so the fans annoyed them and rightly so, but ultimately all of that has a purpose, which is, that the business model is very broad and as I have said in previous threads, they always put money before sport with what they are living with.

The organizers want more spectacle and even so it is a very good business, because the bidders enjoy doing what they like the most and well the fans, those who also practice the sport always want more, so I do not blame them for everything that happens, in the end that generates a lot of work and they employ a lot of people, so that is something very good.

Well there is something that many do not understand, when there is a fighter in the UFC and he goes to boxing, things can seem very similar, that is, they think that if he has been in the UFC, boxing is nothing for them, and it is not like that , people who go from the UFC to boxing may have a lot of resistance to withstand blows to their body, on the other hand in boxing they receive more blows to the face, head, torso of the body, and the legs are not used to kick than It is a very good resource in a fight, in boxing things are different, boxers tend to have more resistance, more speed in their punches and above all the strength in each punch is impressive.