Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 198. (Read 31605 times)

Yes, I think that's the one. We already came across that name in the previous discussion, I don't know why that fight didn't materialized but I'm inclined that one of the possible reason is that they need to test the lightweight again first before Canelo moves to cruiserweight where Makabu is. Now that Canelo has failed to defeat Bivol in LHW, he needed to pass that test first by doing a rematch because if he can't still do it then I believe there's no point in taking Makabu in CW.

In Canelo's comfortable division, he needed an extra 32 pounds to get a fight in CW, that said weight will slow down Canelo for sure and will give a huge advantage for Ilunga Makabu who holds the WBC belt. Aside from that fact, Ilunga Makabu also have the height and reach advantage, so it's like fighting with the likes of Bivol again but this time he is much slower.

I don't mind, it is part of boxing history so I take it as it is.  Even other sports has exhibition fights.  Besides exhibition fights, help promotes sports by raising curiosity, and anticipation and solving some personal questions of many fans, the if this person fights this person, what will happen? 

Since it is labeled an exhibition fight, I do not consider it as a serious one, more like watching a circus where mismatch and scripted events may happen.   


Indeed, they promote boxing in their own way and give a source of money to some washed-up athletes that used to be famous in their prime days.  If you think of it, the strategy of the Paul brothers isn't bad at all, profiting while they let their opponent earn money too.

I’m just kind of curious how everyone feels about all of these exhibition type boxing matches that have been popping up all over the place? It almost feels like for the very first ever these exhibition matches are actually becoming more popular than most of the real boxing matches. 

As much as I don’t like the Paul brothers they’ve garnered a lot of attention for boxing. I also like seeing former professional athletes like with the recent Adrian Peterson vs Lebron Bell bout.

I have forgotten about that fight, thanks for reminding. Another easy money for Floyd. Google says that Floyd would get 20 millions if he competes and 30 if he wins that fight, and most funny, 1.5 million if he appears on a press conference. Surprisingly, this exhibition fight last more than 1 round.

Sometimes I ask myself, could this be possible if Japan mafia uses such fight for money laundering. I mean it is obvious that Floyd would win and his opponent is a complete mismatch. Paying such huge rewards for few minutes sparring? I bet Floyd did not even train for that fight.

There's no discussion anymore about Bivol and Alvarez once he beat him again in their possible rematch, though we are all witness of the dominance of Alvarez in his current weight but going up to another division is not for him or he needs to take an extra step before dethroning Bivol from his current thrown.

Though Zurdo is also aiming for Bivol's belt and he also has that same intention to move up and be a champion.

It's Bivol's weight division, and he has that advantage. We saw his greatness against Alvarez, and if he continues to dominate, it will be good for his career, it will bring him more money fights.

Nah! The Taylor-Serrano was 50/50. After their fight I thought Serrano won but I knew it was 50/50 and I cannot argue if Taylor won because there were close rounds which could be given to either of them. And Taylor is the defending champion and she is also the superstar. But Glenn Feldman was clearly over biased with his 97-93. The same his very clear over biased 115-113 on Joshua. I cannot picture out how Joshua won 7 rounds in the rematch.

I don't like Jake Paul as a fake pro boxer but I do like him as a promoter. The kid also has the guts to call out Glenn Feldman's corruption in boxing and Dana White underpaying its UFC stars.

Floyd won another exhibition match in Japan,


https://www.boxingscene.com/floyd-mayweather-drops-stops-mikuru-asakura-end-2nd-round-exhibition--169302

So another mismatch fight for Floyd and another easy money for him as he knock out Asakura in the second round.

Take note that Manny is amongst the crowd though, so maybe after his match against a South korean and then against his former sparring partner, he might go to Japan as well like Floyd and fight.

I think the way Bivol can prove he's better than Canelo is really a strong fighter mental since not every boxers can perform as good as they can when the crowd favoring on their opponent side. If the rematch happen and Bivol still win again, I have no word to say since I believe many people will disappointed to see Canelo still not able proving he's deserve to be on light heavyweight division. It just end of Canelo era since he have beat the best boxer on his current weight, but he's bad on the next weight.

They will surely aim for another rematch because it can easily attract viewers and bettors. We all know that boxing fans always want to know who is the best among the best. It will also be another opportunity for Bivol but if ever he'll faces Canelo, he must have enough time to prepare because for sure, Canelo would aim for a sure victory this time.

If Bivol win this upcoming fight again, we may hear lots of calls with a rematch against Canelo, it will be another money fight for both fighters, like what you have said, it will attract more viewers looking on how Canelo will try to avenge his first lost from that last fight, Though it might still Canelo will have bookies favorite as a crowd love fighter he might get that respect from the bookies.

It will be on the gambler's decision whether to follow that trend or they will bet against the favorite.

Though it will be a waiting time for the fans who wanted to see that possible rematch, Bivol needs to beat Zurdo first before planning or accepting another fight.

Jake Paul could have filed a complaint against the judge and should have not spoken those things in public.  Jake Paul doesn't have enough evidence to back up his claim that the judge is under Matchroom's payroll.  That is clear defamation.  Jake Paul should have thought that anything he say would affect the business and reputation of Matchroom, now he is facing a $100m defamation case i wonder how he counters this lawsuit.


Depends on possible damage to the reputation of the complainant.  It is said that Matchroom is valued between $739 million and $862 million[1] so pretty much that $100m is too low if ever those statement of Jake Paul ruins that $700m company.

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[1] https://frontofficesports.com/matchroom-sport-in-talks-to-sell-minority-stake-worth-215m/

^ Anyone with fair eyes can see who wins in the Taylor-Serrano fight, it really is disappointing for Serrano's side when it's clearly a fight she owned. If this is the way to prove what Jake Paul is saying is true then he does have the chance to win it. But definitely, this is not what a court would accept as evidence.

$100M seems too much for Defamation.

I'm not siding with anyone, but it seems that Jake Paul has really crossed the line, I can't recall anyone with the likes of Bob Arum or Don King saying this in public.

Perhaps even if he won this in the court, perhaps he should be careful next time. And yes, Hearn sending a signal not just to Paul but to anyone, this is business, it's cut-throat competition, but you don't have to resort to this things to bad mouth your competition. Jake Paul should have known better.

Canelo said that he will not be fighting Benavidez yet, as he doesn't bring any on the table.

And I believed that before his contract with Matchroom or DAZN ends, he will definitely go for a 5th title, so most likely he will go CW to get another belt.

As for Floyd's technical abilities, yes I do agree with @lionheart78, inside the ring he is one of the best complete fighter that we have seen, specially his defensive skills. From 130-147 lbs, he dominated everyone with his technical skills. But as far as outside the ring and his personality, then it's a different story.

Canelo is beaten fair and square by Bivol.  And Bivol's camp probably thinks that Bivol is far superior to Canelo so they don't give much importance to the possible Canelo-Bivol rematch, instead, they are giving priority to having a match that unifies the light heavyweight belt.

If Canelo's hand is injured then it is obvious that he needs to fully recover from that injury.  Having a relapse of injury during a fight is very devastating for a boxer.


People just failed to notice how great as technical fighter Mayweather is.  I believe he has the highest IQ in the boxing ring in his era, even in the history of boxing.  He might cherry-pick sometimes (it is part of boxing), but Mayweather Jr had beaten almost all top-ranked boxers of his time.  People think that Mayweather's fight is boring because Mayweather is too technical for the normal audience to understand.  He is a businessman, yes, but Mayweather is a capable boxer I also considered him as one of the BEST boxers in the history of boxing and the GOAT when it comes to technical boxing style.  Take note, I am not a Mayweather fan.

It will definitely going to increase.

He's got already a line up of match and I guess more offers would to come him since the promoters are now aware that he's still in but anymore with the pro matches.

I guess some offers are still on it that asks him to still have that matches for the pro boxing and promoters are ready to fill that for him.

But, it all depends on him as it seems that he's good and okay with the exhibitions.

Well, the fight between Spence and Crawford must happen for me, they have to be very stupid not to take advantage of this business to generate more money, on the other hand, many forget that this November and December will be full of emotions from the best sport in the world or the most favorite all over the world which is football, the world cup will monopolize all the attention of the people, or at least of the majority, then that is where you should take advantage of doing everything possible to do all the fights to keep fans aware of boxing and above all to make the respective bets, this is something they should not give up doing.


I am one of the people who should be most in favor of Canelo, but seeing all the events, let's put in context that Canelo has a very strong injury in his hand, after the fight he said that he wants his hand surgery quickly oprque the pain is unbearable, and no matter how good he is, a boxer with a bad hand is not a good thing, so Bivol is not just any boxer, the Russian has a lot of strength, a lot of strength and his technique is not just any, he has very good strategies and that's it He beat him, so I think that when Canelo is done he should postpone it, because fighting with a hand injury is very hard.


Well, to tell the truth, I have a very vague position when it comes to exhibition fights that have to do with Mayweather, because he is a very controversial boxer, and he does not stop doing things so that everything goes his way, to My nadi gets me out of my head that there had to be a lot of money to have won the fight with Pacquiao, so those things, in particular, I will always have mistrust when it comes to him, because before being a boxer, I see him as a businessman, too He's a good boxer, but it's like we say in South America, he's very "mañoso" to get things, so that makes the sense of boxing decline, at least that's what I think.

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Plus there's something you need to know just in case if Bivol doesn't want to fight Canelo:

The best three options for Canelo Alvarez if the Dmitry Bivol rematch doesn't happen




Gilberto Ramirez, Jermall Charlo, David Benavidez...


Source: https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/the-best-three-options-for-canelo-alvarez-if-the-dmitry-bivol-rematch-doesnt-happen/7t6es92o1veu1qy90tg43y74v

It's a very good article, informative because I don't know if Bivol will give him a rematch or if Canelo doesn't want to fight him, although the Russian is very jealous of how he is.

Ok, so Eddie Hearn and Matchroom has filed a court case against Jake Paul for saying that judge ieldman is on the the pocket from Matchroom.


https://www.boxingscene.com/eddie-hearn-matchroom-boxing-file-defamation-lawsuit-against-jake-paul--169287

And Hearn is seeking $100 million as damages on the allege statement by Paul. Not sure how it will hold on court, but that number is insane and I doubt that the court will order to pay that amount in any case Eddie Hearn wins the case. So it's interesting how it will ended, or it will be settled out of court. Maybe Hearn is teaching Paul here not to messed with the big boys as far as boxing promotion is concern.

Who could turn down easy money, right? I don't know who's the mastermind behind that exhibition fight is, but it's a win-win situation for both of them. Logan Paul has large fan base just like brother and Mayweather has the same because of what he attained in the boxing industry before he retired, so it's a good equation that resulted to a million-dollar revenue.

Recent speculation is that there may be a Mayweather vs McGregor 2, don't know if it's true but maybe both camps are already talking behind the scenes especially now that McGregor didn't get some fights in UFC since he was injured and defeated by Dustin Pourier last year. He looked so buffed in his recent pictures and seems that he is planning for heavyweight in his comeback in UFC, but even that is not yet confirmed by any sources.

I think he will still be the favorite against Bivol in this will have their rematch, although it might be closer this time, specially if Bivol will win by knockout against Ramirez or if he dominates him just like how he beat Canelo.

So it's important for Bivol to show another great performance so that he will be fighting Canelo next. And for sure I'm thinking that it will be greater that their first fight because people wanted to see if Canelo can avenge his defeat or if Bivol is really too much for Alvarez.