Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 206. (Read 31647 times)

And they have been bitter enemies since their amateur days, Savannah Marshall  has win over Shields and she keep on rubbing it in for the last 10 years that's why Shields wanted to shut her mouth for good in this fight. So there is a lot of trash talking and animosity between the two and this is built as the biggest women's boxing event. Unfortunately, Great Britain and the whole world is mourning the passing of the Queen, and everyone is affected in the country including sports.

I'm very excited to see this match because of the thrash talks that are going on between these two ladies when I read the news, but it's ok to get it moved because of what happened the nation is still mourning the death of the Queen it is just right that it is moved to a new date we must respect the nation in mourning.
Both ladies are very excited to face each other and of course the boxing world they have not seen an intense face off like this to happen and both are also undefeated.

There is no weigh-in, the time was initially moved to 3 pm, until BOXXER decided to postponed it.

The fight though is being moved to the same venue in Oct 15 (tentatively). And not just boxing, but all other sports like football and rugby are either rescheduled and postponed out of respect.

This reminds me of when they wanted the fight between Canelo and GGG, that they always looked for a way to duel before the fights that they loved the most, so the fans annoyed them and rightly so, but ultimately all of that has a purpose, which is, that the business model is very broad and as I have said in previous threads, they always put money before sport with what they are living with.

The organizers want more spectacle and even so it is a very good business, because the bidders enjoy doing what they like the most and well the fans, those who also practice the sport always want more, so I do not blame them for everything that happens, in the end that generates a lot of work and they employ a lot of people, so that is something very good.

Well there is something that many do not understand, when there is a fighter in the UFC and he goes to boxing, things can seem very similar, that is, they think that if he has been in the UFC, boxing is nothing for them, and it is not like that , people who go from the UFC to boxing may have a lot of resistance to withstand blows to their body, on the other hand in boxing they receive more blows to the face, head, torso of the body, and the legs are not used to kick than It is a very good resource in a fight, in boxing things are different, boxers tend to have more resistance, more speed in their punches and above all the strength in each punch is impressive.

Those that are under contract, they have to honor and recognize their contract with UFC. But those that are clean and good to go, they don't have to listen whatever Dana is telling them because they no longer have contracts with him.

Still, many understands that these matches aren't really that pro unlike UFC. And this is just all about having fun and entertainment while making some big money from the hype it creates.

Well, that is the kind of question that only Manny Pacquiao and his camp can answer but I believe there is a reason why Pacquiao chose DK Yoo as his first fight from retirement, maybe because he is just taking his time to get used to the ring again and DK Yoo is the right foe because the latter doesn't have enough stamina and experience to keep up with professional boxers.

Why not Jake Paul? Maybe because of their difference in terms of weight even if there are no such rules in exhibition fights. Jake Paul is a natural heavyweight fighter while Pacquiao is a welterweight fighter or lower. Just a wild guess tho

I do not agree with most exhibition fights but as I said this is a breath of new life for the boxing industry, for some cases I really don't like other sports like wrestling to mingle with a boxer in a boxing match, but if that Wrestler can prove that he surely has a boxing skill, then maybe I can consider we can not take out on people the desire to show what they got in boxing, but if it is for money (most of the time) it can have a good effect and a bad effect aswell, it is like a red pill and a blue pill whichever you chose will surely make a different effect most exhibition fights that I want to see that boxer and combat sports alike is a fight between Tyson Fury and Francis Ngannou, I am sure curious about that fight, and some example Idea I had in mine, Alex Pereira or any middleweight boxers that are still active, 


I certainly agree, why not level the playing field and boxers be on the MMA set of rules, and as you have said why does it always have to be a boxing exhibition, why not an MMA exhibition or put the 2 fighters in different combat sports that they are not familiar with or they can fight as long as they don't fight on their qualifying expertise, a boxer of MMA fighter fighting on fencing, Archery, or if not combat sports, basketball perhaps, we can not compare boxing and MMA because it has different fields and both are very hard to teach and learn, for me if a fighter would fight on MMA a boxer can still be a boxer, while the MMA fighter can be free in everything they do, I think the MMA will surely win against a boxer,

I agree though, MMA is more gruelling than boxing and so they are not even comparable but some of the discipline like stand up skills might be applicable to both sports. And that's why we haven't seen a boxer really crossing over to the world of MMA because it will take more than their brawling and power punching skills. And maybe that is the reason Dana is very adamant on some UFC fighters as they are in a different levels.

They are different sports. I am a fan of boxing and MMA, however you have made a very head shaking argument. You argue that MMA is not as ultimate because retired MMA fighters cannot win against Jake Paul in boxing? Why not the best professional boxers fight in MMA to prove that MMA is not as ultimate as it may sound? I estimate that there may be 1 of those boxers who might win, however, I am quite certain the other 9 would never return.

I say that it is somewhat damaging because there are boxing fans that don't like this kind of exhibitions. Maybe those are really hard core fans of the sports and not just casual fans who just want to be entertained. Boxing for them is science science, and Floyd was a pupil of this because of his lineage, Uncle and his Father. But it seems that he really doesn't care for his legacy, but for the money as we have seen others follow him with exhibition and cross over fights. I guess it depends on the individual on how they see it.

Even if I am not a fan of those exhibitions fights because I do not think that you can actually get to see the best displays of boxing skill in those fights, I do not really think that such fights are damaging or destroying the image of boxing, I'm pretty sure that people understand that those fights are not serious and that they should be regarded differently from the professional fights that we get to see, this is in fact something that is very common in soccer in which there is a very obvious difference in the intensity in which a friendly match is played and a match where something is at stake.

Oh, yeah, I saw it on my feed that the Queen has passed away. So chances are the fight is going to be cancelled here. The whole nation will mourn for the time being so any sports should be cancelled indefinitely.

All eyes are into this fight, they have been calling out each other and the trash talking between this two ladies will rival anyone in the men's side. So let's just wait for the official announcement.

Dana is losing contracts as more fighters actually get off from Dana's control. Nate Diaz also was to fight against Jake but of course, Dana didn't like the idea and the contract also does not allow UFC fighters to have another event involving his fighters.

Unfortunately, UFC fighters losing against Jake embarrasses UFC. It would mean this combat sport is not really as ULTIMATE as it may sound if that is the case.

No doubt that they'll continue even if Dana White says so.

There's a huge money that's being involved and they might have been offered with an amount that's hard to decline. Just like any other athlete, when is being offered with good compensation and talent fee, they won't think twice but will grab the offer.

The Paul brothers did discovered this niche that will make them and their opponents big money.

Regarding the fight between two ladies, I have been wanting to see this fight, is in jeopardy because of the passing of her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II.

Claressa Shields and Savannah Marshall has a schedule bout in O2 arena this weekend. But the promoters says that they will continue to go with the official weigh in just in case the British commission will allow the fight to go through despite the period of mourning.

Yes, I greatly agree.  I always believe that an exhibition fight promotes the sports it involved with.  The main factor in this kind of fight is promotion and of course money-making, either for charity or personal gain.

It also tap the curiosity of people about a cross matches between fighting sports but the problem is that, it is always the fighter who cross over to that sports has the disadvantage since they are not  that familiar with the discipline and mechanics of the sports.  One good example is the fight between a boxer and a wrestler in a boxing rule.  Obviously the wrestler would have a huge disadvantage here and we see the result in one of Jake Pauls fight.

It's because of the involved people and the ones organizing it. We all knew from the Jake and Logan Paul brothers that they were the ones who have made such fights.
Like they're having a match against a veteran and retired UFC fighters to box. That's even odd that they're not playing the sports that these veterans have been once become a pro.

And if not mistaken, Dana White doesn't want his UFC fighters like Conor to do one boxing exhibition because of this reasons. But they are making good money so I guess they will continue to do business with Floyd and the Paul brothers.

On the other hand, entertainment is the main reason for it, we wanted to see Tyson or Roy Jones one last chance and we did actually. Although the result is a draw but we can see that Tyson still has the power.

I do not think an exhibition like that is destroying the image of boxing or MMA.  It is an exhibition match, it has nothing to do with what sports they are in.  It has no bearing or is even deemed as an official rank fight.   It is there to entertain people, besides I think it even promotes boxing sports.


It is like meme coins because there is money to be made.  The reason why many are into this kind of thing.


That is one good reason.  Fans missing their idol's action tend to get excited if ever there is news of its comeback fight.  And the exhibition fight is no different.

I agree with that sentiment now that the entire industry is back we should give way for the real fights and support them, though we can still buy tickets for exhibition or special events, right? it's more on how the promoters will value some good exhibition fight and allow fans to see their legendary fighters to step inside the ring and show their remaining skills.

We know that inside the warrior's heart, fighting is still one of the best thing that they wanted to continue doing.


Maybe yes or just because of the pandemic and those people are just bored and wanted to see some old fighters to be inside the ring again, we all know that abusers are always around just like how the Paul bro did and so with Mayweather they all earn a lot during this exhibition matches.