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September 05, 2022, 06:44:38 PM
Exactly, we know that Money Mayweather wouldn't turn down such fights that will give him guaranteed big money in just several minutes of fighting in the ring along with the amateur boxers in Japan, and of course, his win is also guaranteed on top of that Grin even if he will say again that he will put his professional record on the line.

I got an impression that Floyd Mayweather is a businessman first, a boxer second.  He always make sure that he has the better share of the pie, that he will win the fight, and that the referee will always be on his side, he has money to buy them all. Investment at its best!!! Grin
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September 05, 2022, 06:38:42 PM
^^ Regarding the Flores vs Mares fight. I had Flores winning, by a slim margin in my unofficial scorecard. Just to note though that Mares comes from a 4 year lay-off and the fight is in his hometown and he is a Al Haymon fighter if I can remember it correctly. So there is some biased in terms of the judges, at least that's how I saw it.

He had a good first 3-4 rounds, as he caught Flores several times. But Flores fought back up to the 10th round. And he has won the last 2 rounds for me and that should be enough for him to secure this victory by at least split decision.
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September 05, 2022, 05:14:56 PM
I would like to talk about the recent fight on September 4, 2022, the Ruiz vs. Ortiz fight in this event there are 2 draw fights, I really don't expect a draw for an event like boxing but it really happens,

Andy Ruiz Jr. VS Luis Ortiz

In this fight, Andy Ruiz Jr. won the fight it was a devastating loss for Ortiz I thought that the fight will eventually end in the 2nd round because Ruiz have knockdown Ortiz 2 times, but Ortiz surely recovered and really has the heart not stop the fight, but Luiz Ortiz after that knockdown he is now moving backward and was hurt by Ruiz, no doubt about that that fast punch from Ruiz really is remarkable giving a volume of punches on Ortiz winning the fight via Decision, I thought that he would win via knockout but Luiz Ortiz is just clinging very well, I just watched the highlights of the fight and I surely forgot about this event because I was busy, and this thread is not popping in my radar, so I was really late,

There is the two-draw fight that I am talking about this event, really unexpected to have 2 draws on an event, but here we have,

Abner Mares VS Miguel Flores - DRAW

Oscar Perez VS Anthony Cuba - DRAW
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September 05, 2022, 12:59:50 PM
I didn't know that Floyd Mayweather has an upcoming exhibition match against Mikuru Askakura a MMA fighter, this month of September. And also I didn't know Mayweather has love for the country of Japan or the fighters, lol. After this fight, he might fight against a Korean fighter. Hopefully this fight will entertain us more compared to when he fought Tenshin Nasukawa. 
He loves fighting Japanese and he loves to make easy money.

Just imagine this ;

FLOYD MAYWEATHER earned a staggering £52,000 per second for his one round demolition of Tenshin Nasukawa in Japan.

Floyd's fights now are just to make money, and there's no way he will choose a fighter that has a chance of beating him, his undefeated record will remain even after retirement.

Yes, this is correct, he loves the Japanese because they are wiling to pay him huge money, to have an exhibition in their country with their famous boxer. So who wouldn't love that? you are being offered big money in matter of minutes? So as Floyd said, easy money and his health is not at risk with this amateur Japanese boxers.

And it's the culture of the Japanese as well, that's why you can see boxing being held in their country and they have one of the best fighters right now, Naoya Inoue and they have a lot of current and past champions that can rival the best boxing country like Mexico and the Philippines.

Exactly, we know that Money Mayweather wouldn't turn down such fights that will give him guaranteed big money in just several minutes of fighting in the ring along with the amateur boxers in Japan, and of course, his win is also guaranteed on top of that Grin even if he will say again that he will put his professional record on the line.
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September 04, 2022, 06:58:23 PM
as this type of boxing match is still selling tickets, the promoters behind this activity will continue to take advantage of this situation. but would be nice if they are setting-up good exhibition matches and not just because of clear intentions of pocketing the money from the boxing community. from time to time, we need entertainment. but should at least worth our pennies. and not just pulled out from somewhere, where the "boxers" themselves are not ready to rumble inside the ring.

There's a risk too on the side of promoters as they should organize an exhibition match that is really living the hype.

They can't just form a match randomly just because they want it. I do agree that there will be more people that will still support exhibition matches as long as those fighters involved are worthy to watch.

A fight between a famous one against a non-popular one can also do the trick. I don't know but money is really flowing at exhibition matches.
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September 04, 2022, 06:43:52 PM
Many of my friends say that most of these exhibition fights are happening only for entertainment purposes.
Hence most of the fights are scripted and the fighters are being mega paid to do the fight as per the script.
This is how the sponsors are gaining money and I guess this might be the truth. This is the reason why I don't like exhibition fights.

Since it's entertainment, it just makes sense to believe that exhibition matches are staged and scripted even if it's not publicly disclosed.

However, if the fight is between two great boxers during their prime, regardless if the match will be scripted or not, many people will still spend money watching these as most people in the new generation never have a chance to see those legends fighting in the ring.

Simply, just ignored those shitty matches and only support those matches that have a good initiative (real charity event that makes sense and legit 100%).

as this type of boxing match is still selling tickets, the promoters behind this activity will continue to take advantage of this situation. but would be nice if they are setting-up good exhibition matches and not just because of clear intentions of pocketing the money from the boxing community. from time to time, we need entertainment. but should at least worth our pennies. and not just pulled out from somewhere, where the "boxers" themselves are not ready to rumble inside the ring.
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September 04, 2022, 06:21:37 PM
Many of my friends say that most of these exhibition fights are happening only for entertainment purposes.
Hence most of the fights are scripted and the fighters are being mega paid to do the fight as per the script.
This is how the sponsors are gaining money and I guess this might be the truth. This is the reason why I don't like exhibition fights.

Since it's entertainment, it just makes sense to believe that exhibition matches are staged and scripted even if it's not publicly disclosed.

However, if the fight is between two great boxers during their prime, regardless if the match will be scripted or not, many people will still spend money watching these as most people in the new generation never have a chance to see those legends fighting in the ring.

Simply, just ignored those shitty matches and only support those matches that have a good initiative (real charity event that makes sense and legit 100%).
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September 04, 2022, 05:19:51 PM
I didn't know that Floyd Mayweather has an upcoming exhibition match against Mikuru Askakura a MMA fighter, this month of September. And also I didn't know Mayweather has love for the country of Japan or the fighters, lol. After this fight, he might fight against a Korean fighter. Hopefully this fight will entertain us more compared to when he fought Tenshin Nasukawa. 
He loves fighting Japanese and he loves to make easy money.

Just imagine this ;

FLOYD MAYWEATHER earned a staggering £52,000 per second for his one round demolition of Tenshin Nasukawa in Japan.

Floyd's fights now are just to make money, and there's no way he will choose a fighter that has a chance of beating him, his undefeated record will remain even after retirement.

Yes, this is correct, he loves the Japanese because they are wiling to pay him huge money, to have an exhibition in their country with their famous boxer. So who wouldn't love that? you are being offered big money in matter of minutes? So as Floyd said, easy money and his health is not at risk with this amateur Japanese boxers.

And it's the culture of the Japanese as well, that's why you can see boxing being held in their country and they have one of the best fighters right now, Naoya Inoue and they have a lot of current and past champions that can rival the best boxing country like Mexico and the Philippines.
Mayweather find another cash cow on the Japanese audiences and its way too easy than what he's done in boxing for the last twenty years he need not train very hard, because he is not fighting a top caliber and rated fighter he only needs to showboat show some boxing skills and voila its money, of course, he needs to protect that 0 records so he'll not likely agreed to lose the match, I think Pacquiao should be doing that too, he can come out with two fights a year and that's already millions of dollars in his pocket.
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September 04, 2022, 05:09:01 PM
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He loves fighting Japanese and he loves to make easy money.

Just imagine this ;

FLOYD MAYWEATHER earned a staggering £52,000 per second for his one round demolition of Tenshin Nasukawa in Japan.

Floyd's fights now are just to make money, and there's no way he will choose a fighter that has a chance of beating him, his undefeated record will remain even after retirement.
this is true, previously when facing Logan Paul, mayweather doesn't seem to be going to fight seriously anymore and only has a goal to make money and entertain his fans, he is currently over 40 years old, and I think it's totally natural what he's doing right now.

mayweather vs asakura is just the opening match - for the main fight between Kyoji Horiguchi, with Yuto "Kintaro" Hokamura.
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September 04, 2022, 05:00:40 PM
I didn't know that Floyd Mayweather has an upcoming exhibition match against Mikuru Askakura a MMA fighter, this month of September. And also I didn't know Mayweather has love for the country of Japan or the fighters, lol. After this fight, he might fight against a Korean fighter. Hopefully this fight will entertain us more compared to when he fought Tenshin Nasukawa. 
He loves fighting Japanese and he loves to make easy money.

Just imagine this ;

FLOYD MAYWEATHER earned a staggering £52,000 per second for his one round demolition of Tenshin Nasukawa in Japan.

Floyd's fights now are just to make money, and there's no way he will choose a fighter that has a chance of beating him, his undefeated record will remain even after retirement.

Yes, this is correct, he loves the Japanese because they are wiling to pay him huge money, to have an exhibition in their country with their famous boxer. So who wouldn't love that? you are being offered big money in matter of minutes? So as Floyd said, easy money and his health is not at risk with this amateur Japanese boxers.

And it's the culture of the Japanese as well, that's why you can see boxing being held in their country and they have one of the best fighters right now, Naoya Inoue and they have a lot of current and past champions that can rival the best boxing country like Mexico and the Philippines.
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September 04, 2022, 04:57:23 PM
Guys, what do you think about those famous people in other sports (like UFC, MMA) then suddenly will shift into boxing, not via professional boxing, but as an exhibition match? Or those who are already retired but suddenly will participate in an exhibition match against a non-boxer. It was all started by Floyd Mayweather Jr. and then from there, lots of boxing exhibition matches have been executed.

And the sad part, these people who are participating in exhibition matches are being paid more compared to professional boxers.

Many of my friends say that most of these exhibition fights are happening only for entertainment purposes.
Hence most of the fights are scripted and the fighters are being mega paid to do the fight as per the script.
This is how the sponsors are gaining money and I guess this might be the truth. This is the reason why I don't like exhibition fights.

WWE Wrestling is considered an exhibition and for entertainment only but we cannot say that on the Paul brothers type of exhibitions, Tyron Woodley's knock out is brutal and those punches landed are hard, on boxing, it's hard to do a script because the boxing community is used to seeing real punches being thrown, the exhibition matches presented to us by the Paul brothers are more than entertaining because both fighters are not professional boxers they are on other fields trying to present themselves in boxing and people are supporting this because there's a lot of unexpected things happening.
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September 04, 2022, 04:22:44 PM
Guys, what do you think about those famous people in other sports (like UFC, MMA) then suddenly will shift into boxing, not via professional boxing, but as an exhibition match? Or those who are already retired but suddenly will participate in an exhibition match against a non-boxer. It was all started by Floyd Mayweather Jr. and then from there, lots of boxing exhibition matches have been executed.

And the sad part, these people who are participating in exhibition matches are being paid more compared to professional boxers.

It is all about money, either for personal gain or to cater fund for charity.  And I also think that it isn't Floyd Mayweather that started this kind of exhibition.  Ali once made an exhibition fight against a Puerto Rican comedian  Jose Miguel Agrelot (with Iris Chacon acting as Agrelot's corner-woman)[1]  So Floyd got the idea from Ali to earn more money.

And the sad part, these people who are participating in exhibition matches are being paid more compared to professional boxers.

This is normal, it can't be called an exhibition fight for nothing. 



[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhibition_fight#cite_note-13
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September 04, 2022, 06:47:14 AM
Guys, what do you think about those famous people in other sports (like UFC, MMA) then suddenly will shift into boxing, not via professional boxing, but as an exhibition match? Or those who are already retired but suddenly will participate in an exhibition match against a non-boxer. It was all started by Floyd Mayweather Jr. and then from there, lots of boxing exhibition matches have been executed.

And the sad part, these people who are participating in exhibition matches are being paid more compared to professional boxers.

Many of my friends say that most of these exhibition fights are happening only for entertainment purposes.
Hence most of the fights are scripted and the fighters are being mega paid to do the fight as per the script.
This is how the sponsors are gaining money and I guess this might be the truth. This is the reason why I don't like exhibition fights.
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September 04, 2022, 06:32:32 AM
I didn't know that Floyd Mayweather has an upcoming exhibition match against Mikuru Askakura a MMA fighter, this month of September. And also I didn't know Mayweather has love for the country of Japan or the fighters, lol. After this fight, he might fight against a Korean fighter. Hopefully this fight will entertain us more compared to when he fought Tenshin Nasukawa. 
He loves fighting Japanese and he loves to make easy money.

Just imagine this ;

FLOYD MAYWEATHER earned a staggering £52,000 per second for his one round demolition of Tenshin Nasukawa in Japan.

Floyd's fights now are just to make money, and there's no way he will choose a fighter that has a chance of beating him, his undefeated record will remain even after retirement.
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September 04, 2022, 03:26:05 AM
And the sad part, these people who are participating in exhibition matches are being paid more compared to professional boxers.

Probably its because of the hype of the fight that fans are willing to buy tickets and PPV. So I guess it's going to continue whether we hate seeing legends in sports getting laid down on the canvass that we haven't seen them in their pro careers.
And to add, it's a different era now. Entertainment in the old days is only caught when there's an event like boxing, a real match like Mike Tyson vs Holyfield. But now, it's way different, entertainment can come from anything, and even those who are not professional at what they do can challenge someone and ignite a trend for it to happen. So it's either we accept it and just enjoy the other fights or not watch it at all and wait for the professional match which most of the time takes a long time in preparation.
I won't worry much though, pro fights support is still more intense than social media stars.  Cheesy

If my memory serves me right, there is this so called celebrity boxing matches before, there is hype but it was before the social media era and maybe that's why it can't be compare with the exhibitions that Floyd has started. And yeah, entertainment before was a true boxing match, best against the best and people get entertained when someone gets knock out. But today it is very different form of entertainment, more of a circuit act for this former professional fighters. And then Youtube sensation Paul Brothers and KSI has open this flood gates of this kind of fights for the money.
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September 04, 2022, 01:11:14 AM
And the sad part, these people who are participating in exhibition matches are being paid more compared to professional boxers.

Probably its because of the hype of the fight that fans are willing to buy tickets and PPV. So I guess it's going to continue whether we hate seeing legends in sports getting laid down on the canvass that we haven't seen them in their pro careers.
And to add, it's a different era now. Entertainment in the old days is only caught when there's an event like boxing, a real match like Mike Tyson vs Holyfield. But now, it's way different, entertainment can come from anything, and even those who are not professional at what they do can challenge someone and ignite a trend for it to happen. So it's either we accept it and just enjoy the other fights or not watch it at all and wait for the professional match which most of the time takes a long time in preparation.
I won't worry much though, pro fights support is still more intense than social media stars.  Cheesy
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September 04, 2022, 01:00:25 AM
I didn't know that Floyd Mayweather has an upcoming exhibition match against Mikuru Askakura a MMA fighter, this month of September. And also I didn't know Mayweather has love for the country of Japan or the fighters, lol. After this fight, he might fight against a Korean fighter. Hopefully this fight will entertain us more compared to when he fought Tenshin Nasukawa. 
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September 04, 2022, 12:01:19 AM
Relax fellas! There is ZERO truth that Floyd Mayweather Jr. started exhibition matches on boxing. Does the name Muhammad Ali ring a bell? Correct! The great Muhammad Ali had many exhibition matches during his days. And who knows if there were also exhibition matches prior to Muhammad Ali. But it is a fact that there were exhibition matches already before Mayweather did it.

There are many exhibition matches that were made for charity and I will support them. But i'm no supporter to those exhibition matches for personal purposes. It will not stop until people stops paying.
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September 03, 2022, 03:59:54 PM
Guys, what do you think about those famous people in other sports (like UFC, MMA) then suddenly will shift into boxing, not via professional boxing, but as an exhibition match? Or those who are already retired but suddenly will participate in an exhibition match against a non-boxer. It was all started by Floyd Mayweather Jr. and then from there, lots of boxing exhibition matches have been executed.

Yeah, Floyd literally open the pandora's box about this exhibition match and cross-over, in the beginning it was sort of ok. But if you see those legendary boxersa and UFC fighters getting knock out, then you have to think that there is something wrong with this matches. But I guess, those ex-fighters will have to find a way to make some money will they still can, and so you can't blame them.

And the sad part, these people who are participating in exhibition matches are being paid more compared to professional boxers.

Probably its because of the hype of the fight that fans are willing to buy tickets and PPV. So I guess it's going to continue whether we hate seeing legends in sports getting laid down on the canvass that we haven't seen them in their pro careers.
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September 03, 2022, 12:17:23 PM

And the sad part, these people who are participating in exhibition matches are being paid more compared to professional boxers.

I understand your sentiment and I agree with you but those past stars or well-known fighters established their names into these sports and fans loves seeing them fighting again, though it's just an exhibition and most of those fights are for the sake of entertainment but the value of the names that being offered is what are fans paying for, it's just sad that real boxers who don't have a career yet received lower money but that's the reality,

it's business and for you to enjoy the luxury you need to established your name and be known for fans to support you and buy your tickets or PPV.
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