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Quote from: Sanitough on June 30, 2022, 09:02:24 AM

There's no doubt he is the best fighter now in the bantamweight division, and I don't think he will have a hard time beating Butler if both will agree to unify their belts. I'm already seeing a massive favorite on the side of Inoue as Butler although a champion is not ranked at the top compared to Inoue who is a pound for pound fighter.

Butler's record isn't impressive, with 2 losses and less than 50% KO victory. And I think Butlers also suffered a KO on his 2 losses so I don't think he is tougher than any opponent Inoue has met. Butler was floored by Zolani Tete on the eight-round when he was hit by two consecutive left uppercuts.^[1] So it is highly likely that Butler will kiss the canvas if these two fighters meet in the boxing ring.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Butler_(boxer)

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Quote from: aioc on June 30, 2022, 07:23:40 AM

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Manny has shown old age and stiffness of his body he is good for exhibition matches only and for the sake of money not for another belt, he cannot keep up with the younger generation anymore.

The return of Manny Pacquiao to fight in the boxing ring at an old age it is not possible to snatch the belt from a boxer younger than him, maybe he noticed some stats records during his fight with Ugas and opted for exhibition matches only, of course for money not about belts because sponsors have to pay more It's high to reach a contract deal with 2 superstars professional boxers, but regarding the rumors for the list of opponents Mayweather or Amir Khan is very interesting to watch, we will continue to monitor the official news and hopefully it will be released soon.

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Quote from: yazher on June 29, 2022, 06:30:27 AM

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Looking at this guy's record doesn't sound any different than the other fighters who have been knockout by Inoue. Looks like Inoue has a high chance to be the undisputed champion at their current weight. It's fine to be the best of all before your will gonna step up to the higher class where powerful boxers await you. Of course, it will be different because you might be surprised by their speed and power too. But if Inoue maintains his style in the upper-weight class, I'm sure he will gonna dominate it as well.

Paul Butler will surely struggle soon if this fight against Inoue for the undisputed boxer will materialize, even Donaire had a hard time following the latter's punches and only knew the punch when it landed upon him, what more if it's Paul Butler. The way we saw Inoue's power is already enough to say that he will be the undisputed champion in this division easily.
Until then, I think Inoue will chase another belt in another division if he will claim to be the undisputed champion in the bantamweight division.

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Quote from: lionheart78 on June 28, 2022, 10:59:58 PM

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The truth is I don't see that Butler has enough level to make a fight against Inoue, the other thing is if Inoue accepts it, we all know very well Inoue's style, if Inoue in that case accepts the fight and if he wins Once with a knockout, Butler's reputation will be very low, how could he get it back? The truth is that Butler is good for me, but he needs more preparation. Instead, I would look for fights with less complicated rivals who seem more likely to win, and not leave once and for all because of a big man like Inoue. Butler must reap more wins to that the fans ask for more fights, and the business model is there in having more fights equals more money.

Looking at statistics of Butler with 34-2-0 winnig 15 fight via KO making it a 44% of his fight won via knockout.

Buttler is currently holding the WBO title so I think Inoue will seek a fight with him to be the undisputed champion. That said, I do think that Inoue has the upper hand if ever these two fighters meet. Inoue holding a record of 23-0 with 20 KO's and currently holds IBF WBA and WBC Titles declared interest in becoming the undisputed champion at 118[1]. Inoue beats the future Hall of Famer Nonito Donaire via 2nd round TKO last Tuesday.

[1] https://www.boxingscene.com/paul-butler-naoya-inoue-one-best-ive-seen-20-30-years--166840

Paul Butler has no choice but to fight against Inoue for an undisputed title fight because he have the missing belt that Inoue needed to become the undisputed champion. But as we saw, Butler was the first one to call for the fight and I seriously don't think that he's that positive and comfortable to defeat Inoue but I'm seeing that action as a way to sell the fight much earlier even if there's no negotiation happened as of this moment and make advantage while he can earn.

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Looking at this guy's record doesn't sound any different than the other fighters who have been knockout by Inoue. Looks like Inoue has a high chance to be the undisputed champion at their current weight. It's fine to be the best of all before your will gonna step up to the higher class where powerful boxers await you. Of course, it will be different because you might be surprised by their speed and power too. But if Inoue maintains his style in the upper-weight class, I'm sure he will gonna dominate it as well.

Yeah, if you happen to watch his last fight against Donaire, Inoue had improved a lot! He made Donaire looks like an amateur in their last fight. He also showed his effective feint followed by a knock-out puncher. I was once in doubt of this guy but now I am a fan, lol. Now I am rooting for this young man to win his 4th title and become the undisputed champion of 118 lbs.

That is what a rematch would do to a fighter, I mean Inoue already had the plan on how tackle Donaire's fighting style which he poorly did in their first fight. For me he hasn't improve a lot but he just did what it takes to hurt Donaire and ultimately win the fight via KO.

The good thing about Inoue is he embraced the fact that his stocks raised through the roof with him beating a legend like Donaire in a convincing fashion. Changing of the guards, as they say.

There's no doubt he is the best fighter now in the bantamweight division, and I don't think he will have a hard time beating Butler if both will agree to unify their belts. I'm already seeing a massive favorite on the side of Inoue as Butler although a champion is not ranked at the top compared to Inoue who is a pound for pound fighter.

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Looking at this guy's record doesn't sound any different than the other fighters who have been knockout by Inoue. Looks like Inoue has a high chance to be the undisputed champion at their current weight. It's fine to be the best of all before your will gonna step up to the higher class where powerful boxers await you. Of course, it will be different because you might be surprised by their speed and power too. But if Inoue maintains his style in the upper-weight class, I'm sure he will gonna dominate it as well.

Yeah, if you happen to watch his last fight against Donaire, Inoue had improved a lot! He made Donaire looks like an amateur in their last fight. He also showed his effective feint followed by a knock-out puncher. I was once in doubt of this guy but now I am a fan, lol. Now I am rooting for this young man to win his 4th title and become the undisputed champion of 118 lbs.

That is what a rematch would do to a fighter, I mean Inoue already had the plan on how tackle Donaire's fighting style which he poorly did in their first fight. For me he hasn't improve a lot but he just did what it takes to hurt Donaire and ultimately win the fight via KO.

The good thing about Inoue is he embraced the fact that his stocks raised through the roof with him beating a legend like Donaire in a convincing fashion. Changing of the guards, as they say.

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Looking at this guy's record doesn't sound any different than the other fighters who have been knockout by Inoue. Looks like Inoue has a high chance to be the undisputed champion at their current weight. It's fine to be the best of all before your will gonna step up to the higher class where powerful boxers await you. Of course, it will be different because you might be surprised by their speed and power too. But if Inoue maintains his style in the upper-weight class, I'm sure he will gonna dominate it as well.

Yeah, if you happen to watch his last fight against Donaire, Inoue had improved a lot! He made Donaire looks like an amateur in their last fight. He also showed his effective feint followed by a knock-out puncher. I was once in doubt of this guy but now I am a fan, lol. Now I am rooting for this young man to win his 4th title and become the undisputed champion of 118 lbs.

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about pacman challenge to hold the Fight of the Century fight again has not been welcomed by Mayweather and I think if Mayweather later agrees to the fight, of course we will see the two boxing legends fight again in the ring, apart from Mayweather reportedly now Amir Khan is ready to face Pacman in the fight exhibition boxing event but so far there has been no official confirmation from Pacman to approve or reject the challenge of Amir Khan.

We have 2 collections of the best boxing rumors that are very convincing can come from one of them, the most convincing rumors for Amir Khan because he is reported to have answered the challenge from coach Pacquiao, Freddie Roach has contacted Amir khan for an exhibition fight via telephone, although Manny Pacquiao has not released the official news but the involvement of Freddie Roach is already very sure the fight will be released within this year.

That would be an easy fight for Pacman, the glass chin against an 8 division world champion, that would be fun to watch especially if we will see a KO. However, since it's just an exhibition fight, we don't know if they would really be serious with it or will just strictly follow the script.

Not really an easy fight for Pacquiao remember Manny's loss to a tall guy who just uses a lot of jabs, to ward off Manny and this is not the Pacquiao we've known that beats the unbeaten Thurman, Manny has shown old age and stiffness of his body he is good for exhibition matches only and for the sake of money not for another belt, he cannot keep up with the younger generation anymore.

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about pacman challenge to hold the Fight of the Century fight again has not been welcomed by Mayweather and I think if Mayweather later agrees to the fight, of course we will see the two boxing legends fight again in the ring, apart from Mayweather reportedly now Amir Khan is ready to face Pacman in the fight exhibition boxing event but so far there has been no official confirmation from Pacman to approve or reject the challenge of Amir Khan.

We have 2 collections of the best boxing rumors that are very convincing can come from one of them, the most convincing rumors for Amir Khan because he is reported to have answered the challenge from coach Pacquiao, Freddie Roach has contacted Amir khan for an exhibition fight via telephone, although Manny Pacquiao has not released the official news but the involvement of Freddie Roach is already very sure the fight will be released within this year.

That would be an easy fight for Pacman, the glass chin against an 8 division world champion, that would be fun to watch especially if we will see a KO. However, since it's just an exhibition fight, we don't know if they would really be serious with it or will just strictly follow the script.

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Quote from: mia_houston on June 30, 2022, 05:23:00 AM

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about pacman challenge to hold the Fight of the Century fight again has not been welcomed by Mayweather and I think if Mayweather later agrees to the fight, of course we will see the two boxing legends fight again in the ring, apart from Mayweather reportedly now Amir Khan is ready to face Pacman in the fight exhibition boxing event but so far there has been no official confirmation from Pacman to approve or reject the challenge of Amir Khan.

We have 2 collections of the best boxing rumors that are very convincing can come from one of them, the most convincing rumors for Amir Khan because he is reported to have answered the challenge from coach Pacquiao, Freddie Roach has contacted Amir khan for an exhibition fight via telephone, although Manny Pacquiao has not released the official news but the involvement of Freddie Roach is already very sure the fight will be released within this year.

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Indeed, rumors says that Manny Pacquiao and Mayweather will share a ring again to have a last dance for an exhibition fight but that remains a speculation for now as Pacquiao's camp is still resting and taking some time to bond to his family because he exhausted his time and efforts for the presidential race few months ago. Let's if that will happen or not, soon!

I also stumbled on those rumor articles about the possible return of Manny Pacquiao to the ring. First, it's about against Mayweather. And there are many speculations that I can't remember the names of those fighters. As long as Pacquiao has no statement, that will remain a rumor.

He is currently out of the country for a vacation after losing the PH Presidential bid and as we know Manny, when he is out of the country, he is not just doing a vacation but making business. Maybe one of those is his return on the right for an exhibition match. Well, as long as it was against a big name too, he can pursue exhibition matches.

Who knows something is currently brewing behind the scene.

After the defeat of the presidential election now pacman seems to be enjoying a vacation to barcelona to relieve the stress of the defeat, I think although the defeat did not stop him from politics of course there is a possibility for him to return to the boxing ring at this time to spend his time, about pacman challenge to hold the Fight of the Century fight again has not been welcomed by Mayweather and I think if Mayweather later agrees to the fight, of course we will see the two boxing legends fight again in the ring, apart from Mayweather reportedly now Amir Khan is ready to face Pacman in the fight exhibition boxing event but so far there has been no official confirmation from Pacman to approve or reject the challenge of Amir Khan.

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We may have a great fight on July 30 on Showtime,

Danny Garcia vs Jose Benavidez at 154 lbs.

For sure some of you might be familiar with the name Danny Garcia as he was once a 147 lbs champions. But he lost to some of the best welterweight that time, Spence, Thurman and Porter. Now he decided to move up to 154 lbs and challenge one of the most dangerous fighter in that division. Years ago Benavidez put a good fight against Crawford.

This could be one underrated fight this July. I will admit that I'm a fan of Danny Garcia during his prime I said this because I think he doesn't have it and he is really a B fighter, because when he step with the big guns at 147 lbs he losses, but he possesses one of the best left hook that I have seen. And then Jose Benavidez could still have the power at 154 lbs. Not sure though why he is not rated at any organizations at this weight class. But definitely, this is going to be a good clash of styles as well, but I will favor Benavidez maybe by a decision.

Yes, he is one of the best during his prime, but I think he still have some good fight in his bag. This is going to be a close fight against Benavidez. Experience wise I will favor Garcia, but not sure if he can carry his left at this division, but will be 50/50 in terms of power. So the fight might go to distance and it's going to be close, so I wouldn't be surprised if Garcia somewhat pulled a win here.

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Looking at this guy's record doesn't sound any different than the other fighters who have been knockout by Inoue. Looks like Inoue has a high chance to be the undisputed champion at their current weight. It's fine to be the best of all before your will gonna step up to the higher class where powerful boxers await you. Of course, it will be different because you might be surprised by their speed and power too. But if Inoue maintains his style in the upper-weight class, I'm sure he will gonna dominate it as well.

I like him to move to another weight class just to test the waters. But before that, he has to beat Butler and unify the belt first. And just like the rest of you guys, I don't think that Butler will have a chance against the Monster. Inoue is on his prime right now, and we know that if fighters are at their peak, the speed, the power, the timing, the chin and other factors jive. So yeah, he is going to take that belt and Butler can't do anything about it.

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Looking at this guy's record doesn't sound any different than the other fighters who have been knockout by Inoue. Looks like Inoue has a high chance to be the undisputed champion at their current weight. It's fine to be the best of all before your will gonna step up to the higher class where powerful boxers await you. Of course, it will be different because you might be surprised by their speed and power too. But if Inoue maintains his style in the upper-weight class, I'm sure he will gonna dominate it as well.

Though Butler's record is pretty much impressive but I don't see him having a chance to beat Inoue. The monster is just too much for this division, if they will fight for unification, I would already expect that Inoue will come out victorious and he will be the undisputed champion in the bantamweight division.
When Butler was suppose to fight Casimero, Butler was even a heavy underdog, how much more against Inoue.

This kind of fight will not excite me, in the first place Butler should not have been a champion because of Casimero's carelessness he is now a champion, whatever words Butler will say to make the fans believe he can beat Inoue will be laughed at if you have a poll here on the match between Butler and Inoue out of 100 no one will vote for Butler, he is just out of Inoue's league.

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Looking at this guy's record doesn't sound any different than the other fighters who have been knockout by Inoue. Looks like Inoue has a high chance to be the undisputed champion at their current weight. It's fine to be the best of all before your will gonna step up to the higher class where powerful boxers await you. Of course, it will be different because you might be surprised by their speed and power too. But if Inoue maintains his style in the upper-weight class, I'm sure he will gonna dominate it as well.

Though Butler's record is pretty much impressive but I don't see him having a chance to beat Inoue. The monster is just too much for this division, if they will fight for unification, I would already expect that Inoue will come out victorious and he will be the undisputed champion in the bantamweight division.
When Butler was suppose to fight Casimero, Butler was even a heavy underdog, how much more against Inoue.

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Quote from: lionheart78 on June 28, 2022, 10:59:58 PM

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Looking at this guy's record doesn't sound any different than the other fighters who have been knockout by Inoue. Looks like Inoue has a high chance to be the undisputed champion at their current weight. It's fine to be the best of all before your will gonna step up to the higher class where powerful boxers await you. Of course, it will be different because you might be surprised by their speed and power too. But if Inoue maintains his style in the upper-weight class, I'm sure he will gonna dominate it as well.

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 28, 2022, 06:17:49 PM

We may have a great fight on July 30 on Showtime,

Danny Garcia vs Jose Benavidez at 154 lbs.

For sure some of you might be familiar with the name Danny Garcia as he was once a 147 lbs champions. But he lost to some of the best welterweight that time, Spence, Thurman and Porter. Now he decided to move up to 154 lbs and challenge one of the most dangerous fighter in that division. Years ago Benavidez put a good fight against Crawford.

This could be one underrated fight this July. I will admit that I'm a fan of Danny Garcia during his prime I said this because I think he doesn't have it and he is really a B fighter, because when he step with the big guns at 147 lbs he losses, but he possesses one of the best left hook that I have seen. And then Jose Benavidez could still have the power at 154 lbs. Not sure though why he is not rated at any organizations at this weight class. But definitely, this is going to be a good clash of styles as well, but I will favor Benavidez maybe by a decision.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on June 28, 2022, 10:18:53 PM

The truth is I don't see that Butler has enough level to make a fight against Inoue, the other thing is if Inoue accepts it, we all know very well Inoue's style, if Inoue in that case accepts the fight and if he wins Once with a knockout, Butler's reputation will be very low, how could he get it back? The truth is that Butler is good for me, but he needs more preparation. Instead, I would look for fights with less complicated rivals who seem more likely to win, and not leave once and for all because of a big man like Inoue. Butler must reap more wins to that the fans ask for more fights, and the business model is there in having more fights equals more money.

Looking at statistics of Butler with 34-2-0 winnig 15 fight via KO making it a 44% of his fight won via knockout.

Buttler is currently holding the WBO title so I think Inoue will seek a fight with him to be the undisputed champion. That said, I do think that Inoue has the upper hand if ever these two fighters meet. Inoue holding a record of 23-0 with 20 KO's and currently holds IBF WBA and WBC Titles declared interest in becoming the undisputed champion at 118[1]. Inoue beats the future Hall of Famer Nonito Donaire via 2nd round TKO last Tuesday.

[1] https://www.boxingscene.com/paul-butler-naoya-inoue-one-best-ive-seen-20-30-years--166840

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I'm thinking that Inoue would face Butler first before he considers moving to another division. Casimero was not in the picture for now, unfortunately but that's his reality after the incident.

He's going to face and it's going to be an easy fight, I doubt if Casimero will have a chance to fight Inoue, he cannot make the weight it's time for Casimero and for us to move forward for now unless they face each other again in the higher division, Casimero cannot keep up anymore on the division where Inoue is reigning unless there's there are circumstances that will make them face each other so let's see how it's going to be now that Donaire is out of the picture.

For the sake of getting another belt? yeah, perhaps Inoue is more willing to fight Butler then before moving up in weight and have the bragging rights of cleaning up the division. Casimero is no longer in the discussion for now. He has to work his way up again, be the number 1 contender or the mandatory and maybe that's the time that Inoue will give him the chance.

No boxer will have enough titles they will try to win as many titles as possible, which will define their skill and their legacy, Butler already announced that he wants Inoue next
Naoya Inoue's next fight: Paul Butler calls for undisputed title showdown

So in the coming weeks or months, we'll have the news of the two meeting in the ring, this fight will heavily favor Inoue as he is the better fighter than Butler.

The truth is I don't know if this is correct, I think Buttler won't be able to do anything, already with the failure that Donaire showed I think he won't have much of a chance against Inoue, now Inoue has had a great level in terms of fighting, what he wants most to do is finish all his fights by knockout, at one point many said that the one who was going to seek the knockout was going to be Donaire, others think that Buttler is weaker than Donaire, in my personal opinion I would not say that Butler is weaker or stronger, every fight it's a different story and you should take advantage of all the fights they can offer.

Seems legit, I checked it out and find another source to see if it's a real story and it turns out that Paul Butler was really calling Inoue in the past weeks for the title of an undisputed bantamweight.
Paul Butler Desperately Wants To Fight Naoya Inoue

Butler was lying on his own teeth because he quite knew that Inoue have changed into a real monster and even Donaire admit that he cannot react well as he cannot follow Inoue's punches. Butler just wanted to be the first one to call about the fight to somehow make a hype in his name while trying to sell the fight in advance as he also know that their fight is inevitable because he have the WBO belt.

Perhaps this is just about the money that Butler can get from this fight. And it's also interesting if one of his demands will be that the fight be held in UK?

Inoue traveling to UK and beat their champion, unify the bantamweight division. But we shall see what Butler's promotion are going to do. I think they will rather have him face Casimero first. And if ever he win that, then book a fight with Inoue.

The truth is I don't see that Butler has enough level to make a fight against Inoue, the other thing is if Inoue accepts it, we all know very well Inoue's style, if Inoue in that case accepts the fight and if he wins Once with a knockout, Butler's reputation will be very low, how could he get it back? The truth is that Butler is good for me, but he needs more preparation. Instead, I would look for fights with less complicated rivals who seem more likely to win, and not leave once and for all because of a big man like Inoue. Butler must reap more wins to that the fans ask for more fights, and the business model is there in having more fights equals more money.

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Quote from: Maslate on June 28, 2022, 02:11:35 PM

Indeed, rumors says that Manny Pacquiao and Mayweather will share a ring again to have a last dance for an exhibition fight but that remains a speculation for now as Pacquiao's camp is still resting and taking some time to bond to his family because he exhausted his time and efforts for the presidential race few months ago. Let's if that will happen or not, soon!

I also stumbled on those rumor articles about the possible return of Manny Pacquiao to the ring. First, it's about against Mayweather. And there are many speculations that I can't remember the names of those fighters. As long as Pacquiao has no statement, that will remain a rumor.

He is currently out of the country for a vacation after losing the PH Presidential bid and as we know Manny, when he is out of the country, he is not just doing a vacation but making business. Maybe one of those is his return on the right for an exhibition match. Well, as long as it was against a big name too, he can pursue exhibition matches.

Who knows something is currently brewing behind the scene.

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