Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 234. (Read 31941 times)

I read that Beterviev will be defending his belt against Yarde. And this could be the 'safest' route for Arthur, or shall we shall Bob Arum. Although he mentioned that he is also interested on a Bivol match to unify, knowing Arum, he might not allow him to do that. And instead, have him face the mandatory challenger first and create more aura of invincibility of Beterviev so that hey can make a lot of money if ever they will decide and have a unification fight with Bivol.

Actually it's the other way around, he went toe to toe against a dangerous Arthur. And he got what he wanted, he was knock down several times and then knock out in the second. Even if he was able to stand up, you will see the legs is gone as he was very wobbly. So it was a good call by the referee to stop the fight. And very wrong strategy by Smith to go against a power puncher like Beterviev.

All of the fans were astounded by what happened, we never have taken some thought that Inoue could finish the fight much earlier than we expected, well even Donaire didn't as well. The thing is, Donaire did his best to even their standing but Inoue was just a different fighter, a lot of improvement since their first fight.

That said, I won't be surprised if Butler would be sleeping through the canvass if he chooses to taste some of the punches from the Monster.

I don't think Artur Beterbiev is choosing his fight he will surely fight whoever has given to him, but this time it is right to think 1st before getting into the fight if the fight is necessary or not if he wants another belt then I think he better makes hesitation, there is no worth in getting fights to fighters that don't have a title shot,

But in my opinion, Dmitry Bivol might have a chance but I am still going with Beterbiev, the power of Beterbiev is legit and right now he has a high percentage on his Knockout while Bivol in his 20 fights have 11 Knockouts and 9 Decision fights, Artur Beterbiev is still the scariest Boxer that could pierce any defense of his opponent,


Yup! he will not retire just so soon, I think he is enjoying fighting inside the ring and pretty much shining his craft, even more, that punch that he gives to Joe Smith Jr. is really devastating, and if he still has that kind of power he can still move forward but I don't want him to make a dent on his beautiful record, but I don't want him to retire early aswell, but I have confidence that he still will keep on fighting, and that he still has that power output he can throw to his opponent, Canelo Alvarez will not stand a chance against him in my opinion,

I truly believe that, Bivol is still young, 31 years old now and he has the skills that could also beat a champion as he did to Canelo whom he beat via unanimous decision. Beterbiev has the power, he wins by KO in all of his previous fights, but Bivol is also cannot be underestimated, so it's good to see them fight and see the best of the best.

True, light heavyweight will be too much for Canelo if that division has champions like Bivol and Beterviev. Both is heavy puncher in Beterviev and then a good and has a sound fundamentals in Bivol.


He goes toe to toe and thinks that he can take Arthur's power. The moment it touches him in the first round. You know that he won't last long. And Smith has a weak chin as well.


Unification fight with Bivol before he can retire. I don't think he will have Canelo. Alvarez doesn't want none of Arthur.

That's what he think though, Bivol might be the easier to fight between the light weight champion, but he is mistaken. Beterviev? Canelo might get stop for the first time in his career.

I don't think that Arthur will retire, sooner or later if h continue to fight then maybe he will be caught. And I'm thinking that Bivol might have a good chance to defeat him.

Maybe Beterbiev travelling to England to defend his 3 belts against their own hero Anthony Yarde is financially big. But I like Artur Beterbiev to pressure and convince Arum/ESPN to let him unify with the last remaining belt held by Dmitry Bivol. Beterbiev better not waste his time against these beltless contenders if he wants to leave a legacy in the Hall of Fame. Or maybe he can fight the beatable WBC cruiserweight champion Ilunga Makabu. A victory would make Beterbiev a 2 division champion and might be enough to enter the Hall of Fame.

Or is Arum (ESPN) scared that his aging champion might lose to a technical fighter like Bivol?

In just an instant Joe Smith Jr. was down at first Smith Jr. is pretty much doing great in pressuring Beterbiev with his jabs, but Beterbiev's punches that go straight to his opponent's defense was truly the devastating thing about the power of Beterbiev, and the 1st round was a big round for Beterbiev, I really think that outbalance for Smith Jr. was the cause of Beterbiev strong punches, and on the 2nd round Beterbiev right now had a reaction from Smith Jr, just due to his jabs, Artur Beterbiev has a clean shot on Joe Smith Jr. that surely devastated Smith Jr. it was a clean win for Beterbiev no doubt about that, and Artur Beterbiev is truly a knockout artist, and surely every fight of Beterbiev I will put money on it,


He should think twice before deciding something like that, and just like Joe Smith Jr. he would not surely last a decision result when he faces Beterbiev, because I think the same result will surely happen to him when they face each other,

I don't really like Joe Smith Jr.'s strategy in engaging in a toe to toe fight against Beterbiev, it was a suicide mission every punch was like hitting a truck to the face, and Joe Smith Jr.'s strategy go out of the window after facing those devastating punch of Beterbiev, he was surely curious on what happened to him, and can not think smart anymore,

I would love to see him retire with that perfect Knockout and flawless record he has now, but I would also love a fight that will surely see his limits in the light heavyweight division, well maybe going to the heavyweight will measure his limits,

Beterbiev's timing is so perfect it's an onslaught and its a very one-sided match Smith has no chance at all on the first knockdown that's the start of the end, and about Canelo going at it again the light heavyweight, he better forget it Bivol and Beterbiev is so hard to beat in that division, we hope to see Bivol and Beterbiev going for the undisputed light heavyweight title to see how's the real king there.

I think Canelo had no business in the light heavyweight anymore, I mean it would be dangerous for him if he pursue his dream of dominating this division after what we witnessed on how King Arthur demolished Joe Smith easily.

Smith's mistake was standing toe-to-toe with the heavy-handed Beterbiev, he should have avoided that early onslaught if he opted to use his footwork and tired-up Beterbiev in the later rounds. Anyways, congrats to those who bet on the under 6.5.

BTW, Beterbiev is 37 years old, we may see him retire with an immaculate record with a perfect KO ratio, what do you think?

This is insane, even I'm expecting Beterbiev will win via KO but I'm not expecting the fight will end so quick like this. A big punch from Beterbiev make Joe Smith Jr's body can't hold and continue the fight, this fight is similar like Inoue vs Donaire 2 that Inoue can KO'ed Donaire on the second round. Well, then the light heavyweight champion only Beterbiev and Bivol, of course they both will fight sooner or later.

I think Bivol shouldn't fight with Beterbiev and choose to rematch with Canelo first, if he win then he can fight with Beterbiev, if not Canelo will fight with Beterbiev. However it's too quick for Canelo to fight with Beterbiev if he won against Bivol.

^^ Goodluck with your bet, I'm going to skip this one. I wanted to bet on Beterviev and I think that will not go to distance.

I think they are up next, Ramirez just knock out Nova in round five.

I'm not seeing Beterviev age as somewhat a big factor, it's just about the peak at 37 years old and if he smells blood here, for sure he will go for the killer and will try to score a KO.

Edit: It's over, Beterviev by KO in two rounds, that was quick.

Exactly and in terms of betting odds, we are going to get more money when we bet for a decision win on either of the two but i'm going to bet for Beterbiev here because once Joe tasted those power punches that Arthur will throw, he may use his bicycle to survive the fight and avoid that he may be a part of that 100 percent knockout ratio.

I'm also picking Beterbiev he is for me a very dangerous fighter at his level, not every boxer can have 17 knockouts in 17 fights
 he knows how to knock out an opponent and he will not go for a decision, so expect Beterbiev to go all out for a knock because this fight will set him a fight against Bivol, Joe Smith is good but he tasted losses at the hands of Bivol which is a fighter that is equal of Beterbiev's power.
 

I Agree, and from that Naoya Inoue VS Nonito Donaire 2 fight many were really shocked that the match will end in the 2nd round, Many think that Donaire would last for longer rounds, and give us an amazing fight like the last time, but it's just that Naoya Inoue now is on a different level since their last fight, and from that 1st fight Donaire was down aswell, because of Inoue's body blows, but because of Nonito's determination during the fight he lasted until the fight ends, and it was a totally different fight from the last time,


Well, maybe I am the one who didn't really understand it but that is OK with me, I also think that Joe Smith Jr, has a game plan and is a more technical fighter than Beterbiev, but I can not say for sure if he has the high percentage of winning but he surely got a shot on doing it, so he better be ready for anything, and because of his much experience, I think he really got a game plan for Beterbiev, but I am not pretty much confident about Joe Smith Jr, winning over Beterbiev so Artur Beterbiev is my pick,

I didn't say that Joe Smith Jr. will just be there to end Artur Beterbiev's KO streak without having a goal in mind to win the fight. Sorry for the confusion, as I said, Joe will go fighting while trying to survive Artur's ferocious punches (that could highly knock him out). Joe Smith have a shot for winning the fight while ending Artur's streak because he is more experienced than the latter and frankly he's more younger and that could give him an advantage in-terms of gas tank.

That's 100%, Butler is not even a better fighter than Donaire IMO, so there's no way he will beat Inoue, I see a KO in the early rounds. If Butler would choose to run, still the same result, it's still a Loss and the belt will be taken by Inoue for him to become an undisputed champion.

I don't think that's the case here, Butler is not in the position to demand that the fight will be held in UK as I know that Inoue's camp wouldn't certainly agree with it because they also wanted to have the fight in Saitama, Japan. Same venue of the GGG-Murata and Inoue-Donaire fight, so maybe they can decide somewhere else where it's neutral for the both of them.

Butler's only choice is to call the fight and wait for his defeat because there's really nothing he can do against Inoue, would you guys believe that Butler is capable defeating Inoue for atleast by decision? I think the answer for that is NO.

The thing is when Beterbiev haven't worn any single belt where he's a challenger at that time, he can beat both Enrico Kolling and Oleksandr Gvozdyk via KO. While both of Kolling only lose via decision and Gyozdyk is undefeated, but Beterbiev can prove his power is enough to KO a champion. Joe Smith Jr ever lose via KO on 12 years ago, but it seems unrelevant now and he only lose via decision when fight against Bivol.

Bivol is a power puncher but Joe Smith Jr can still survive for 12 rounds, but I'd think Beterbiev have a higher strength than Bivol.