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I agree with both of you, time to get out of Mayweather shadows and put this name as Gervonta Davis and not like copying his mentor. Sure he can set up a fight to whatever he wants, Garcia or even Haney because that two might also be in his radar and it's a win-win for him and I think that he will be the favorite whoever he chooses to fight.

Well, I guess he can stay and just add some extra touches on his style to sure solidify that it is his mentor style anymore, but yeah he sure needs to go beyond the point and declare that he is a grown man with grown decisions, I sure hope he still regains that flawless record of no losses, that he has, but I really like Gervonta Davis, and after announcing that these two is about to clash I immediately see that Davis will win this, I really don't know why or how but I think I got a hunch that Davis could surely win this fight and after looking at their stats from there I am sure enough that Gervonta Davis has an advantage,

It appears everyone is very busy arguing about Kambosos versus Haney and Inoue versus Donaire hehehe. We forgot that this weekend Stephen Fulton will also be fighting Danny Roman. It might not appear to be an important fight, we know Fulton's victory is a certainty, however, every boxing fan should watch it because if Inoue wins, he might move up to super bantamweight and challenge Fulton for the WBC and WBO super bantamweight championships.

Well, Sad to say many are mainly focused on the main events and don't want to give even slight details over other fights that are not on the main card, and actually the same goes with me because I really don't know Stephen Fulton and Danny Roman, and I think that many here are with me and speaking of the Kambosos and Haney, they indeed have a heated argument that may add fuel to the hype, and with Inoue VS Donaire I am really most excited to that fight more than other, I am curious if Naoya Inoue has upped his game or if Nonito Donaire can have an answer to their rematch or if it's going to be a repeat of the past,
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It appears everyone is very busy arguing about Kambosos versus Haney and Inoue versus Donaire hehehe. We forgot that this weekend Stephen Fulton will also be fighting Danny Roman. It might not appear to be an important fight, we know Fulton's victory is a certainty, however, every boxing fan should watch it because if Inoue wins, he might move up to super bantamweight and challenge Fulton for the WBC and WBO super bantamweight championships.

Yes, saw that scheduled fight but the odds though. Nevertheless, I don't think that Inoue will go up in weight. Too early for him, and knowing that he is under Bob Arum, I doubt that he will allow his cash cow to immediately jump on the next weight unless he is very sure that he can take Fulton out or any of the champion in that division. So let Fulton battered Roman this weekend, and his chance to win are high because obviously he is the favorite.
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It appears everyone is very busy arguing about Kambosos versus Haney and Inoue versus Donaire hehehe. We forgot that this weekend Stephen Fulton will also be fighting Danny Roman. It might not appear to be an important fight, we know Fulton's victory is a certainty, however, every boxing fan should watch it because if Inoue wins, he might move up to super bantamweight and challenge Fulton for the WBC and WBO super bantamweight championships.
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Exactly, just like what Bob Arum did before, all in house fight for his fighters, thus preventing us to see great fights until it's too late and that Pacman is no longer in his prime.. And then cut him lose when he lost. So hopefully when Davis goes on his own, he will chase fighter like Garcia who has been calling him several times, Haney or even Shakur Stevenson if he ever wants to go up to 135 lbs.

That's the pro when you get out from the shadow of someone but will he ever get a big shares with his fights  including the PPV?
They all do have some advantages and of the have issues with their promotion but at least in boxing the fees are pretty much millions compare to MMA
fighters.

Its time Garcia to stand up too, this guy pose himself as king but cherry picking all the time. Shakur is surprising and he could match the skills of either Haney and Davis given a time.
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Gervonta Davis got a big break with Mayweather Promotion and I think he is surely on the right track if he is trailing Floyd Mayweather into his greatness, that is what I think by managing his own, he can surely become very versatile on his own, but I think he owes his popularity to his promotion and trainers in what he become now, but right now, after defeating Romero, in my opinion, Davis will be lifted in a new environment and now that he is out of Mayweather promotions, there is no doubt that he is in a different league now, and I don't really expect a rematch anytime soon despite the claims of Romero exposing him, and got all the rounds I highly doubted that,
I think he acknowledges what Mayweather promotions has done in his career. He trained with the best and they really help him to where he is right now, no doubt about it. But as a free agent, yes, he will become more versatile, can dictate the negotiations in his own term. He won't change any of his corners soon, including his trainers. They have build a camaraderie, even his mother is involved and hands-on. Everyone saw what happened, and I think we could agree that a rematch is not needed.

He can handle himself as a free agent he is a great boxer people want to see his fights he will have no restrictions, and he can negotiate with other promotions, the one thing that these promotions are doing is they want to keep everything in the house as they do on UFC, where all fights are done on fighters under on promotion, this what prevents great boxers like Davis to fight the best from other promotions. 

Exactly, just like what Bob Arum did before, all in house fight for his fighters, thus preventing us to see great fights until it's too late and that Pacman is no longer in his prime.. And then cut him lose when he lost. So hopefully when Davis goes on his own, he will chase fighter like Garcia who has been calling him several times, Haney or even Shakur Stevenson if he ever wants to go up to 135 lbs.
I agree with both of you, time to get out of Mayweather shadows and put this name as Gervonta Davis and not like copying his mentor. Sure he can set up a fight to whatever he wants, Garcia or even Haney because that two might also be in his radar and it's a win-win for him and I think that he will be the favorite whoever he chooses to fight.
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^^ Right, I saw one interview wherein he confirmed that he will not sign a contract extension with Floyd's promotion and this will be his last fight for them. Although Ellerbe said post fight press conference that he doesn't discuss their boxers contract in public, it seems inevitable. They can't blame him though, Floyd took that route as well when he severe his ties with Bob Arum and let him manage his own career. So this is what Tank's gonna do throughout, and definitely to cut the middleman in Floyd. But I will say that they did a good job building Tank's name in this division and making him a champion and a household name for even a casual sports fans.

Gervonta Davis got a big break with Mayweather Promotion and I think he is surely on the right track if he is trailing Floyd Mayweather into his greatness, that is what I think by managing his own, he can surely become very versatile on his own, but I think he owes his popularity to his promotion and trainers in what he become now, but right now, after defeating Romero, in my opinion, Davis will be lifted in a new environment and now that he is out of Mayweather promotions, there is no doubt that he is in a different league now, and I don't really expect a rematch anytime soon despite the claims of Romero exposing him, and got all the rounds I highly doubted that,
I think he acknowledges what Mayweather promotions has done in his career. He trained with the best and they really help him to where he is right now, no doubt about it. But as a free agent, yes, he will become more versatile, can dictate the negotiations in his own term. He won't change any of his corners soon, including his trainers. They have build a camaraderie, even his mother is involved and hands-on. Everyone saw what happened, and I think we could agree that a rematch is not needed.

He can handle himself as a free agent he is a great boxer people want to see his fights he will have no restrictions, and he can negotiate with other promotions, the one thing that these promotions are doing is they want to keep everything in the house as they do on UFC, where all fights are done on fighters under on promotion, this what prevents great boxers like Davis to fight the best from other promotions. 

Exactly, just like what Bob Arum did before, all in house fight for his fighters, thus preventing us to see great fights until it's too late and that Pacman is no longer in his prime.. And then cut him lose when he lost. So hopefully when Davis goes on his own, he will chase fighter like Garcia who has been calling him several times, Haney or even Shakur Stevenson if he ever wants to go up to 135 lbs.
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I think he acknowledges what Mayweather promotions has done in his career. He trained with the best and they really help him to where he is right now, no doubt about it. But as a free agent, yes, he will become more versatile, can dictate the negotiations in his own term. He won't change any of his corners soon, including his trainers. They have build a camaraderie, even his mother is involved and hands-on. Everyone saw what happened, and I think we could agree that a rematch is not needed.


In actuality, Gervonta Davis Still loves the Mayweather Promotions, and in 1 video on Twitter says he is still a Mayweather Promotion baby, he has a lot of respect for where he came from and I really love that about Gervonta a really down to earth guy, and if you want to take pictures with him he will definitely allow it, for sure, and yeah I think he will still continue boxing with the people he used to work with that he surely trusts the most, while the Rolando Romero, still saying shit about what happen with their fight that he won every round, but in the technical standpoint Gervonta really is in control of the moment,

He can handle himself as a free agent he is a great boxer people want to see his fights he will have no restrictions, and he can negotiate with other promotions, the one thing that these promotions are doing is they want to keep everything in the house as they do on UFC, where all fights are done on fighters under on promotion, this what prevents great boxers like Davis to fight the best from other promotions. 

Yup! right now he will not be hindered by who he wants to fight, I sure hope he doesn't make a bad decision that he would lose the perfect record that he has right now but surely there are some boxers who just collapse from attaining a lost record and never gets back on track again, I would never want to see him like that, even if he attains a lost I wish he can still be positive about the outcome because there are great boxers who experience lost and make it as a tool to strengthen themselves, I really wish Gervonta "Tank" Davis to have a positive mindset when it comes to losing because with that he would surely become a great fighter,
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^^ Right, I saw one interview wherein he confirmed that he will not sign a contract extension with Floyd's promotion and this will be his last fight for them. Although Ellerbe said post fight press conference that he doesn't discuss their boxers contract in public, it seems inevitable. They can't blame him though, Floyd took that route as well when he severe his ties with Bob Arum and let him manage his own career. So this is what Tank's gonna do throughout, and definitely to cut the middleman in Floyd. But I will say that they did a good job building Tank's name in this division and making him a champion and a household name for even a casual sports fans.

Gervonta Davis got a big break with Mayweather Promotion and I think he is surely on the right track if he is trailing Floyd Mayweather into his greatness, that is what I think by managing his own, he can surely become very versatile on his own, but I think he owes his popularity to his promotion and trainers in what he become now, but right now, after defeating Romero, in my opinion, Davis will be lifted in a new environment and now that he is out of Mayweather promotions, there is no doubt that he is in a different league now, and I don't really expect a rematch anytime soon despite the claims of Romero exposing him, and got all the rounds I highly doubted that,
I think he acknowledges what Mayweather promotions has done in his career. He trained with the best and they really help him to where he is right now, no doubt about it. But as a free agent, yes, he will become more versatile, can dictate the negotiations in his own term. He won't change any of his corners soon, including his trainers. They have build a camaraderie, even his mother is involved and hands-on. Everyone saw what happened, and I think we could agree that a rematch is not needed.

He can handle himself as a free agent he is a great boxer people want to see his fights he will have no restrictions, and he can negotiate with other promotions, the one thing that these promotions are doing is they want to keep everything in the house as they do on UFC, where all fights are done on fighters under on promotion, this what prevents great boxers like Davis to fight the best from other promotions. 
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^^ Right, I saw one interview wherein he confirmed that he will not sign a contract extension with Floyd's promotion and this will be his last fight for them. Although Ellerbe said post fight press conference that he doesn't discuss their boxers contract in public, it seems inevitable. They can't blame him though, Floyd took that route as well when he severe his ties with Bob Arum and let him manage his own career. So this is what Tank's gonna do throughout, and definitely to cut the middleman in Floyd. But I will say that they did a good job building Tank's name in this division and making him a champion and a household name for even a casual sports fans.

Gervonta Davis got a big break with Mayweather Promotion and I think he is surely on the right track if he is trailing Floyd Mayweather into his greatness, that is what I think by managing his own, he can surely become very versatile on his own, but I think he owes his popularity to his promotion and trainers in what he become now, but right now, after defeating Romero, in my opinion, Davis will be lifted in a new environment and now that he is out of Mayweather promotions, there is no doubt that he is in a different league now, and I don't really expect a rematch anytime soon despite the claims of Romero exposing him, and got all the rounds I highly doubted that,
I think he acknowledges what Mayweather promotions has done in his career. He trained with the best and they really help him to where he is right now, no doubt about it. But as a free agent, yes, he will become more versatile, can dictate the negotiations in his own term. He won't change any of his corners soon, including his trainers. They have build a camaraderie, even his mother is involved and hands-on. Everyone saw what happened, and I think we could agree that a rematch is not needed.
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^^ Right, I saw one interview wherein he confirmed that he will not sign a contract extension with Floyd's promotion and this will be his last fight for them. Although Ellerbe said post fight press conference that he doesn't discuss their boxers contract in public, it seems inevitable. They can't blame him though, Floyd took that route as well when he severe his ties with Bob Arum and let him manage his own career. So this is what Tank's gonna do throughout, and definitely to cut the middleman in Floyd. But I will say that they did a good job building Tank's name in this division and making him a champion and a household name for even a casual sports fans.

Gervonta Davis got a big break with Mayweather Promotion and I think he is surely on the right track if he is trailing Floyd Mayweather into his greatness, that is what I think by managing his own, he can surely become very versatile on his own, but I think he owes his popularity to his promotion and trainers in what he become now, but right now, after defeating Romero, in my opinion, Davis will be lifted in a new environment and now that he is out of Mayweather promotions, there is no doubt that he is in a different league now, and I don't really expect a rematch anytime soon despite the claims of Romero exposing him, and got all the rounds I highly doubted that,



OK now Schedules for upcoming fights that I think will be enjoyable to watch

June 4: Melbourne, Australia

George Kambosos vs. Devin Haney - Title Fight

June 4: Minneapolis, Minnesota

Stephen Fulton vs. Daniel Roman - Title Fight

June 4: Cardiff, Wales

Kenichi Ogawa vs. Joe Cordina - Title Fight

June 7: Saitama, Japan

Naoya Inoue vs. Nonito Donaire - Title Fight

June 10: Mexico City, Mexico

Hiroto Kyoguchi vs. Esteban Bermudez - Title Fight

Now, these are all the fights from June 4 to June 10 that will be a Title Fights I didn't include the full event I think you can all look for it online, but for me these fights are what the fans want to see,

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^^ Right, I saw one interview wherein he confirmed that he will not sign a contract extension with Floyd's promotion and this will be his last fight for them. Although Ellerbe said post fight press conference that he doesn't discuss their boxers contract in public, it seems inevitable. They can't blame him though, Floyd took that route as well when he severe his ties with Bob Arum and let him manage his own career. So this is what Tank's gonna do throughout, and definitely to cut the middleman in Floyd. But I will say that they did a good job building Tank's name in this division and making him a champion and a household name for even a casual sports fans.
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It will be interesting which path Tank Davis will head next. Last weekend was his last fight with Mayweather Promotions (PBC/Showtime). It was noted that Tank before the fight already said that he wanted to decide and control his own career. But lately, Tank mentioned that he might re-sign with Mayweather Promotions. It seems Tank will be getting more money in his next contract as Matchroom (DAZN) also stated that they want Tank in their banner.

I can smell a bid here. Tank thru the years has been built under the PBC umbrella so they might convince the young star to stay. But we cannot deny Matchroom's chances here. DAZN has the deepest pocket and Tank might prefer it. WBC champion Devin Haney is also with Matchroom and DAZN. And if Haney beats Kambosos twice for all the lightweight belts, pretty sure Tank wants a shot at all those belts in just one fight. The last but not the least would be Top Rank and ESPN. The influential Bob Arum managed to bring Kambosos next fights under ESPN.

Personally if I were Tank. I will go with the biggest money and opportunity which is probably with Matchroom and DAZN.  



It seems that Davis is looking forward to separating himself from the Mayweather promotion, and targeting a better career ahead of him, it was a sure correct decision to take and he surely is a big boy now after defeating Romero, but I guess Rolando Romero really wants a rematch and it seems that I would like Gervonta Davis to not accept the rematch I think that Romero doesn't really deserve a rematch if he was knockout like that by Davis, and surely that unbeaten records is pretty much close to what Mayweather has established, and I think the Mayweather promotions have surely done their job perfectly in giving Davis some advice and they surely didn't let Tank down and done a great job in making a huge success for Gervonta Davis,

A Funny picture indeed and it looks like Davis will execute a 619 to Romero while hugging the ropes was really hilarious,
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It will be interesting which path Tank Davis will head next. Last weekend was his last fight with Mayweather Promotions (PBC/Showtime). It was noted that Tank before the fight already said that he wanted to decide and control his own career. But lately, Tank mentioned that he might re-sign with Mayweather Promotions. It seems Tank will be getting more money in his next contract as Matchroom (DAZN) also stated that they want Tank in their banner.

I can smell a bid here. Tank thru the years has been built under the PBC umbrella so they might convince the young star to stay. But we cannot deny Matchroom's chances here. DAZN has the deepest pocket and Tank might prefer it. WBC champion Devin Haney is also with Matchroom and DAZN. And if Haney beats Kambosos twice for all the lightweight belts, pretty sure Tank wants a shot at all those belts in just one fight. The last but not the least would be Top Rank and ESPN. The influential Bob Arum managed to bring Kambosos next fights under ESPN.

Personally if I were Tank. I will go with the biggest money and opportunity which is probably with Matchroom and DAZN. 

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Pretty much I think that Gervonta Davis's experience really paid off from that calm and patient guy for the right timing, really did kill Romero's momentum, and after the fight, Rolando Romero doesn't really know what happen so the referee stop the fight, and still, Romero is still stubborn enough that he has won all rounds with points and he wants an immediate rematch,  

Experience will always pays off and that's a fact. As for Gervonta Davis case, he is already battle tested and he's been through many battles, some of those boxers are much stronger unlike Romero. It's undeniable that the latter have some impressive records including his high knockout ratio but the thing is, those boxers that he defeated is not one of those strong boxers that's why mostly he defeated it with KO and TKO easily.

Nevertheless, Romero was good and he showed his talent that he can do more but this is not his time. He is too early to be facing the Tank, also, he should change his attitude and learn to be patient.

Well, I think the 1st time I have seen these two at 1st glance I can see the advantage of Gervonta Davis, that he is built in tanking those Romero punches, and then by looking at their fight records then I am very sure that Gervonta Davis has the quality and experience and yes you can see that he is a more technical fighter while Rolando Romero might be throwing jabs, and thinking he is winning the fight, but men we can see the level of intelligent on Davis, was far more superior,



The next Schedule fight will be on June 4, June 4: A title fight of George Kambosos vs. Devin Haney on Melbourne, Australia

Title fight:
  • George Kambosos Jr. vs. Devin Haney, 12 rounds, for the undisputed lightweight title
  • Lucas Browne vs. Junior Fa, 10 rounds, heavyweights
  • Terry Nickolas vs. Lachlan Higgins, 6 rounds, middleweights
  • Yoel Angeloni vs. Ken Aitken, 4 rounds, welterweights
  • Hussein Fayad vs. Pom Thanawut Phetkum, 4 rounds, junior lightweights
  • Isaias Henriquez Sette vs. Luke Gersbeck, 4 rounds, junior middleweights


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Pretty much I think that Gervonta Davis's experience really paid off from that calm and patient guy for the right timing, really did kill Romero's momentum, and after the fight, Rolando Romero doesn't really know what happen so the referee stop the fight, and still, Romero is still stubborn enough that he has won all rounds with points and he wants an immediate rematch, 

Experience will always pays off and that's a fact. As for Gervonta Davis case, he is already battle tested and he's been through many battles, some of those boxers are much stronger unlike Romero. It's undeniable that the latter have some impressive records including his high knockout ratio but the thing is, those boxers that he defeated is not one of those strong boxers that's why mostly he defeated it with KO and TKO easily.

Nevertheless, Romero was good and he showed his talent that he can do more but this is not his time. He is too early to be facing the Tank, also, he should change his attitude and learn to be patient.
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Pretty much I think that Gervonta Davis's experience really paid off from that calm and patient guy for the right timing, really did kill Romero's momentum, and after the fight, Rolando Romero doesn't really know what happen so the referee stop the fight, and still, Romero is still stubborn enough that he has won all rounds with points and he wants an immediate rematch, 

He surely underestimated Gervonta Davis and it surely backfires back on him on what he predicted may happen it is a big no when you are in a fight and you have announced that the fight will end up the way you liked it, and it kind of Romero is full of himself that night, and on the post-fight press conference Rolando Romero while talking is shaking his head so much like he was really hit to the head so hard, but the guy sure is one funny dude, saying that he has won all rounds and he just jump forward to a coming left hook, come on Rolly Gervonta Davis's timing was really perfect that all rounds were pretty much was a set up in getting those KO punch landed,

I was thinking that it's a matter of time, the way Romero comes forward with his chin open and not moving his head it could be either a hook or an uppercut, Tank made it easy to knock Romero out, duck duck move forward, and wait to unload that power-punch.

The timing of Gervonta Davis was really awesome, and pretty much that patience he has shown towards the entire fight was really awesome, and from a technical perspective Davis, has a lot of clean shots, and Rolando Romero just couldn't belive that he lost the fight,
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Gervonta Davis VS Rolando Romero

The recent Gervonta Davis VS Rolando Romero fight was a spectacle to watch, it was finished in the round 6 by a TKO win on Gervonta Davis, and in the first round Romero really has a long reach and he is checking their distance, we can see that Romero was aggressive with that long reach, while Davis is waiting for the right opportunity, Rolando Romero's prediction hasn't come to fruition saying that he will Knock out Davis in the 1st round, and pretty much Romero was on the advantage because of his reach, but Davis was very calm and waiting for the strike then Romero steps forward and hop while Davis throws a counter left hook that gets Rolando Romero goes down on the canvas it was a big win for Davis, that is still undefeated, while Romero now has 1 defeat record,
This is what Romero gets for making a one round knock out prediction, Tyson quote is always true everybody has a plan until the gets hit in the face, he totally underestimate Gervonta, he overlooked the fact that Gervonta's some of Gervonta's knock outs comes from a counter punch and waiting for his opponent to come forward and make the wrong move,now he is one of the victim no


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Pretty much I think that Gervonta Davis's experience really paid off from that calm and patient guy for the right timing, really did kill Romero's momentum, and after the fight, Rolando Romero doesn't really know what happen so the referee stop the fight, and still, Romero is still stubborn enough that he has won all rounds with points and he wants an immediate rematch, 

I was thinking that it's a matter of time, the way Romero comes forward with his chin open and not moving his head it could be either a hook or an uppercut, Tank made it easy to knock Romero out, duck duck move forward, and wait to unload that power-punch.
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Gervonta Davis VS Rolando Romero

The recent Gervonta Davis VS Rolando Romero fight was a spectacle to watch, it was finished in the round 6 by a TKO win on Gervonta Davis, and in the first round Romero really has a long reach and he is checking their distance, we can see that Romero was aggressive with that long reach, while Davis is waiting for the right opportunity, Rolando Romero's prediction hasn't come to fruition saying that he will Knock out Davis in the 1st round, and pretty much Romero was on the advantage because of his reach, but Davis was very calm and waiting for the strike then Romero steps forward and hop while Davis throws a counter left hook that gets Rolando Romero goes down on the canvas it was a big win for Davis, that is still undefeated, while Romero now has 1 defeat record,

Pretty much I think that Gervonta Davis's experience really paid off from that calm and patient guy for the right timing, really did kill Romero's momentum, and after the fight, Rolando Romero doesn't really know what happen so the referee stop the fight, and still, Romero is still stubborn enough that he has won all rounds with points and he wants an immediate rematch, 
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It's true all above boxers you mentioned above are the biggest names in lightweight, but only Ryan Garcia is the one who overhyped and isn't really a good boxer among other lightweight boxers. I'd say Teofimo Lopez and Isaac Cruz are more deserved to get listed on the top 5, Lopez popularity dropped when he lose against Kambosos, while Cruz is an underrated boxer.

Yeah, surprised not to see Teo Lopez name in the list, but maybe he will go up to 140 lbs after that lost to George Kambosos.

Isaac Cruz is underrated, no one wants to touch this guy except Tank who have a difficult fight with him. But I like to see everyone fighting each other and see who will come up on top.
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It's true all above boxers you mentioned above are the biggest names in lightweight, but only Ryan Garcia is the one who overhyped and isn't really a good boxer among other lightweight boxers. I'd say Teofimo Lopez and Isaac Cruz are more deserved to get listed on the top 5, Lopez popularity dropped when he lose against Kambosos, while Cruz is an underrated boxer.
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