Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 236. (Read 32561 times)

Oh really? That's good.  O2 arena is located in London, right? I believe that place will be full packed again as the English people are really fond and excited whenever they know that one of their best boxers are having a title fight. The venue will exactly produce good revenues for the both camps especially Bob Arum. Next up, Dmitrii Bivol next year.

There's only one great fighter in a family, so Bobby has to support his brother, and I think he already enters the politics too so he has found his place with the use of their money. Influence is what Pacman was able to achieve from his success in boxing, so even if he already retired in boxing, he is still very successful with his business and with the politics.

I really think it is also up to a person's mindset if he likes to pursue his dream if he had the passion to do it, then he will definitely Succeed, but if that spark would go just because of a 1 record lost then he or she doesn't have a mind to pursue, but a fragile mind that will eventually falter, Manny and Bobby might be brothers but they don't share the same mindset and the urge in really doing boxing, the same goes with John Riel Casimero's brother Jayson Casimero, John Riel Casimero have a solid will to pursue his goals in life while his brother didn't pursue much but had the experience in fighting in the ring, well, we all can become boxers but pretty much not all can attain the determination of well-known boxers now,


If this fight goes through I think it will be next year, but early in 2023, and this could be another test for Artur Beterbiev before he can face Dmitry Bivol, but I think Beterbiev is perfectly ready for Bivol, Anthony Yarde is just a stumbling block for him to go straight to Bivol I think this fight is not necessary they are just delaying the fight well I don't know they might want Beterbiev to age well for further weakening him but I am still going for Artur Beterbiev whatever happens,

Yes, this has been in the works already, Yarde as the mandatory and then the fight being in O2 arena, that will be huge fight specially for Yarde. And since Beterviev is not damage on his last fight with Smith, they can set this up right now, October is being the target date.

And then the winner getting Bivol, so definitely we want to have a scenario wherein two of the best in LHW will fight for unification, Beterviev and Bivol. Hopefully, Yarde won't cause any upset.

Exactly! It's easy to dream and have some goals to make money but if we're not capable on doing it as well as we have no passion then that goal is impossible to attain. Just like in boxing, many boxers who dreamt to carve their name but only few are choosen to do it.

As for Bobby Pacquiao, well, he tried but he can't exactly match his brothers talent in boxing so he gave it up and support Manny on his road to greatness. That's already good for the both of them because Manny had remained to carve their last name in the industry.

Yes mate, that's Manny Pacquiao. There's this rumor that both camps are in the talks regarding an exhibition fight between the two of them especially Manny as he's now free from politics after he was lost in the presidential race. I don't exactly know why their rematch didn't happen when it's clear that people wanted a rematch and money is already on the table for the two of them but suddenly they decided that a rematch is not possible anymore despite having some beefs with each other.

Yes, rumors has it that Artur Beterbiev will face Yarde first for a title defense possible after the Canelo-GGG trilogy and it's possible that an undisputed fight in light-heavyweight will happen next year, 2023. Bob Arum will milk first the remaining challenger in the said weightclass before he gives a go signal to his boy to go against Bivol for an undisputed fight, we know the Bob and that's the nearest scenario I can think of.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2022/6/23/23179727/artur-beterbiev-vs-anthony-yarde-will-be-next-bivol-fight-possible-early-2023-arum-boxing-news-2022

Yes Technically not all are born to be natural there are some that are gifted but they still need to have experience with that sports to be good at it, not all can achieve the greatness of a Manny Pacquaio, Nonito Donaire, in boxing without the given talent, I also think that if your goals in life were just to make money and the passion was not there in what you do, you will not be successful at all, I think that is some mistakes on some boxers here in the Phillippines that are just wishing to be rich with boxing but doesn't have the drive or the passion to do it,

And Bobby Pacquiao's case he surely had enough when he realized that there are now many losses than winning on his record, I think he lost the drive-in pursuit because boxing is not just meant Physically but Mentally aswell,


Nice find serjent05 those punches were really amazing if this kid hits you, his opponent is done for, with the fast pace and punching power like that he can surely shore great heights in his career, and at his age, there is still a lot of improvement for this kid, I surely just wish he wouldn't eventually gas out during the fight with Javier Fortuna if the fight goes the distance, but apparently, his fight with Emmanuel Tagoe has gone the distance and pretty much Garcia is ok with it, the fact that Emmanuel Tagoe was always running around have brought the fight to Unnanimous decision,

That's Bob Arum another way of not giving the boxing fans what we wanted. He is for the money and will milk Bivol again. So it will be Yarde in UK with big money flowing in his table. And if Arthur wins with another knockout, his name will grow more in the UK and then US. So there will be a demand for him to face Bivol who beat their US champion in Canelo. So more money for him, it's a trick but win-win situation for Top Rank. Doesn't matter if Beterviev is 38 years old, as long as he will continue to win and win with knockout, the hype will be there.

Bobby doesn't have the talent or maybe the work ethics of Manny that's why he didn't succeed. But he supported his brother throughout and we see him in Manny's fight so perhaps he realized that there could only be one Pacquiao that can make a name for themselves. And Manny maybe is destined to be this great and legend, once in a lifetime gem for Philippine boxing an from rag to riches story.

I looked up on Ryan Garcia's record and this is what I found out:

How quickly does Ryan Garcia finish his opponents? The 5 fastest Flash knockouts

1. 30 SECONDS VS. MIGUEL CARRIZOZA — SEP. 15, 2017; MGM GRAND MARQUEE BALLROOM, LAS VEGAS
2. 72 SECONDS VS. HECTOR GARCIA — JUNE 24, 2016
3. 74 SECONDS VS. MARIO MACIAS — JULY 15, 2017
4. 80 SECONDS VS. FRANCISCO FONSECA — FEB. 14, 2020
5. 94 SECONDS VS. EDGAR MEZA — JUNE 9, 2016

Javier Fortuna have 70% knock out ratio and with only 3 loses where 1 of them is knocked out.  This is an article^[1] that best describes the career of Javier Fortuna.  His last fight was won via KO.

Ryan Garcia is really a heavy hitter but looking at his opponent I think this is a match that can go to anyone.  It is a matter of who kisses the canvass first.  So I think Ryan Garcia need to be very careful here to not blemish his perfect record.

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[1] https://champinon.info/boxing/javier-fortuna/

Organizing it in later years will only put Beterbiev at the disadvantage corner, better let them get in the same ring while their skills and talent are still reap and it's fun to watch if both boxers are still on their primes. If the fight would materialize then for sure, that would be full-packed fight as well as the PPV revenues but I think Bob Arum is not ready to risk his best boxers yet especially Beterbiev who had a 100% KO rate with no losses. Unfortunately, Beterbieve will just grow old without getting a chance to be an undisputed boxer just like Crawford's career, might as well follow the latter's footstep like getting out of Tap Rank and be a free agent to get his much wanted fight.

Well, you got some points there. Some are also dreamt of getting famous being a boxing star and some have been successful enough but nowhere near Donaire and Pacquiao's legacy and some are also not that lucky to achieve their dream because it's easy to dream of it but it's hard to be one of those real boxers which we know today because only few really born to be a boxer in the industry.

Manny Pacquiao had a brother named Bobby Pacquiao who is also a professional boxer but the latter had to retire much earlier way back 2008 because his losses are almost coming close to his winnings and he's not getting some main event fight just like Manny had. That's probably one of the good examples that boxing is not for everyone even if boxing is one of those ways to escape poverty.

Wait a minute, when you say Manny, do you mean Pacquiao? because if that is the case my interest will increase a lot, because the truth is I don't like the style that Mayweather has, the truth is I'm still disappointed in what he showed in his fight against him, where they agreed not to give any rematch, for me Mayweather is a boxer who He is only interested in fucking money before anything else, for this reason when it comes to exhibition fights they do not attract much attention to me, because it is not the same interest as a fight with all the law, but in an eventual fight of exhibition against Pacquiao if I would like to see it, maybe I haven't seen much news regarding boxing lately because football has me hooked.

Rumors has it that will be Yarde first. It could be a fight that could go on PPV and it's good though. And just like what others said, UK fans love their local boxer so for sure this will be a sold out fight if they chooses Yarde's hometown.

So we might have to wait for maybe next year for the undisputed fight to happen between Bivol and Beterviev. So yeah, Beterviev will be like 38 years old next year, and Bivol still on his prime, just saying. Maybe we will factor that out once they fight.

I also like Dmitry Bivol to be his next opponent but sadly it is not yet in tuition, maybe there are problems with the promotion or they are just worried about each fighter getting a loss in their good records but for me certainly I like Artur Beterbiev to have a match against Dmitry Bivol and yes every fan wants a great fight like that, undefeated versus another undefeated, I certainly just wish it will come into fruition,

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Another fight that I am anticipating this coming July will be a great fight to watch in my opinion, I surely anticipate this kid to surely performed well and his punching power could be another threat for Fortuna,

Ryan Garcia VS Javier Fortuna

July 16, Los Angeles 12 rounds Lightweight

This will be a test for Ryan Garcia if his punching power can take down Javier Fortuna because Ryan Garcia has proven to have a lethal punch that could knock out his opponent with speed and power, to pressure Fortuna, I would like to really see that right now Garcia had 22 fights all 18 is knockout while 4 was on a decision, and Javier Fortuna has 43 fights, 37 wins 26 knockouts and 11 decisions, while has 3 losses, on his record, Fortuna has the advantage on experience, while Garcia has the reach and height advantage, we will surely see here if the hype on Ryan Garcia is not really a hype but is a proven fact that he is truly a pound for pound, fighter,

Who will be next for Beterbiev? If I was the promoter it should be against Dmitry Bivol for the undisputed light heavyweight championship. All fans of all types of sport will watch it, it will create millions in profit for the fighters, the sponsors and the promoters. However, I am quite certain this will not happen hehe. I am not certain why boxing promoters are like this. It might only be organized when they are old, very much similar to Amir Khan vs. Kell Brook or Mayweather vs. Pacman.

For sure, he should at least crack the top 10 by now, but let's see how those boxing analyst will put Arthur on their next listing.

And speaking of Beterviev, his fight with Smith is not PPV, but interesting numbers:


https://www.boxingscene.com/beterbiev-smith-main-event-drew-average-audience-912000-viewers-on-espn--167128

So I guess that's a good numbers for that fight. Maybe Beterviev's next will surely headline a PPV event. Maybe Arum is just testing the waters for this one. ESPN and Top Rank should consider him as a good PPV fighters now.

I am not certain how the boxing experts like in the forum assess Beterbiev, however, considering only the skills, should he be included in the top 10 pound for pound best boxers? He should be included, I reckon. What is your assessment, @Boafeng?

In any case, Joshua vs. Usyk 2 has officially been announced. The fight will be on August 20 in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. I think Anthony Joshua might win this, very much similar to his upset loss then rematch win vs. Andy Ruiz.



The new match will take place on the 20th August 2022, with the destination for the fight also having been announced – which is Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.

Source https://www.givemesport.com/88024275-anthony-joshua-vs-oleksandr-usyk-2-press-conference-time-how-to-watch

That's why it is right to assume that their fight will be a blockbuster and Beterbeiv is the favorite fighter to win it. Just like they speculated Beterbeiv might be the one who will dominate the fight but we cannot close the door of chances for Smith Jr. to cause him trouble by showing his skills inside the ring. because no matter how fast and powerful you are inside the ring, if you are lacking good strategy, you will gonna fall into your opponent's trap and will get dominated throughout the rounds. We have already seen such kinds of surprising skills multiple times this year and this one could also be one of them.