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Quote from: chaser15 on March 08, 2022, 07:52:50 PM

Quote from: TravelMug on March 07, 2022, 10:03:05 PM

Perhaps it will be just sign in April and the actual month might happen in the next coming months.

I don't think they have plans to do the fight the same month or even the same week with Casimero fight against Butler.

There's actually nothing wrong if the fight will be held the same month but should not be on the same week.

But my concern is, how's the preparation time? There could be an advanced prompt that those 2 boxers received to prepare early which is not disclosed to the public because their match is likely to happen.

I read the article and it's clear that Arum pointed out that the match is in April, not a signing. But I agree, it seems a rush. They can do it the month later which is in May but if there's no problem between Inoue and Donaire, then all set up next month.

Yes, that's the point, it's a rush, boxers needed at least a good 8 weeks to train and then we have the promotion.

So we will see, maybe they are really started this training already and just didn't divulge it to the public. We all know that Arum is a master planner so this could be part of his grand plan about this fight. Create hype and portray that they don't have enough time to prepare for the fight.

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Quote from: TravelMug on March 07, 2022, 10:03:05 PM

Perhaps it will be just sign in April and the actual month might happen in the next coming months.

I don't think they have plans to do the fight the same month or even the same week with Casimero fight against Butler.

There's actually nothing wrong if the fight will be held the same month but should not be on the same week.

But my concern is, how's the preparation time? There could be an advanced prompt that those 2 boxers received to prepare early which is not disclosed to the public because their match is likely to happen.

I read the article and it's clear that Arum pointed out that the match is in April, not a signing. But I agree, it seems a rush. They can do it the month later which is in May but if there's no problem between Inoue and Donaire, then all set up next month.

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Quote from: harizen on March 07, 2022, 06:46:36 PM

Just recently, Bob Arums claimed that a clash and rematch between Nonito Donaire and Naoya Inoue might take place next month. Although unusual to see that there still no clear updates now.

Donaire-Inoue rematch in April ‘really close,’ says Arum.

It's better for me to have this first before anything else. They need a rematch. Donaire is the first boxer to give Inoue a tough and bloodied fight even. They should settle it for the 2nd time.

This is a big news. Donaire even at his age has that Knock Out power and can matched against young ones and still on prime. I able to watched the highlights during the fight between him and Inoue and the champion really struggles but still end up winning.

A Part II is the fans wants to see fight instead of Casimero vs Inoue.

Expecting Bob Arum to make this happen and not just a speculation.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on March 07, 2022, 09:01:29 PM

Though I want to see the rematch, but I'd interested to see Casimero vs Inoue first. Donaire is better than Casimero, so he should be in the last fight if Casimero lose from Inoue.

Sounds good but it will derailed their respective timeline.

- Naoya Inoue wants to plan of coming back in June but that was depend on Japan's restriction which from what I read, will be lifted now on April instead of the speculation that it will be on June. Therefore, the Japanese monster might fight right away and Donaire is the best pick for that.

- Casimero will fight Paul Butler next month. if let's say he win, it needs again another 3 months of preparation to fight another boxer. I think 2 months is not enough for Casimero to rest and prepare against Inoue.

- Donaire also don't want to wait hanging for long. If he will be on the final stage, he have to wait until 4Q to face either Casimero and Inoue.

But that's all "what if".

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Quote from: harizen on March 07, 2022, 06:46:36 PM

Just recently, Bob Arums claimed that a clash and rematch between Nonito Donaire and Naoya Inoue might take place next month. Although unusual to see that there still no clear updates now.

Donaire-Inoue rematch in April ‘really close,’ says Arum.

It's better for me to have this first before anything else. They need a rematch. Donaire is the first boxer to give Inoue a tough and bloodied fight even. They should settle it for the 2nd time.

Wow, now Donaire got Inoue first. A lot are wanting to see the Inoue vs. Casimero. But seems that Donaire will finally settle what's left here. Can Donaire beat Inoue before his retirement? This will be another interesting fight. April is already next month, so maybe, both camps are in the final arrangement regarding this deal. But when it comes to favorite, I believe, Inoue will still be favored here and Donaire will be the underdog. Regarding the gap of odds, may not be that wide.

I disagree because Casimero's name is not as big as Nonito Donaire. Casimero's was also made to look like a clown versus Rigondeaux after he was saying before the fight that he would knock Rigondeaux out. Donaire's last 2 fights ended his opponents in knockouts. If you are the promoter would you promote the fight that will be liked less and sell less tickets or will you promote a rematch between 2 exciting boxers in the bantamweight division?

However, why is Bob Arum making this fight only 1 month after the speculative announcement? Inoue and Donaire do not need to train? But this is an important fight.

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Quote from: 24Kt on March 07, 2022, 06:50:03 PM

Quote from: harizen on March 07, 2022, 06:46:36 PM

Just recently, Bob Arums claimed that a clash and rematch between Nonito Donaire and Naoya Inoue might take place next month. Although unusual to see that there still no clear updates now.

Donaire-Inoue rematch in April ‘really close,’ says Arum.

It's better for me to have this first before anything else. They need a rematch. Donaire is the first boxer to give Inoue a tough and bloodied fight even. They should settle it for the 2nd time.

Wow, now Donaire got Inoue first. A lot are wanting to see the Inoue vs. Casimero. But seems that Donaire will finally settle what's left here. Can Donaire beat Inoue before his retirement? This will be another interesting fight. April is already next month, so maybe, both camps are in the final arrangement regarding this deal. But when it comes to favorite, I believe, Inoue will still be favored here and Donaire will be the underdog. Regarding the gap of odds, may not be that wide.

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Quote from: harizen on March 07, 2022, 06:46:36 PM

Just recently, Bob Arums claimed that a clash and rematch between Nonito Donaire and Naoya Inoue might take place next month. Although unusual to see that there still no clear updates now.

Donaire-Inoue rematch in April ‘really close,’ says Arum.

It's better for me to have this first before anything else. They need a rematch. Donaire is the first boxer to give Inoue a tough and bloodied fight even. They should settle it for the 2nd time.

Perhaps it will be just sign in April and the actual month might happen in the next coming months.

I don't think they have plans to do the fight the same month or even the same week with Casimero fight against Butler.

Nevertheless, I think this is a good fight, and for me it was a very close fight in the first one, Donaire really give Inoue the hardest fight of his career even broke his orbital bone. So a rematch is needed.

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Quote from: harizen on March 07, 2022, 06:58:58 PM

Since Casimero fight was delayed last December, it was rescheduled next month. It's a clear conflict if they are planning to clash with Inoue in the 2Q of the year that's why Donaire takes place which is also a deserve a rematch since he currently holds a Belt.

If Inoue will win in that fight, he will hold 3 titles and the remaining one is the one that Casimero hold to unify all the championship belts at Bantamweight division. Only if Casimero wins again Paul Butler.

That would be an insane fight and a candidate for the fight of the year but of course, they need to win both fights together before they get a chance to negotiate about their possible fight this year. I assume that Inoue will gonna beat Donaire easily since he already learned from their past fight and already gathered more experiences than before. As for Casimero, winning this fight is crucial because he needs to regain back his health and power to continue to dominate his opponents throughout his career.

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Quote from: harizen on March 07, 2022, 06:46:36 PM

Just recently, Bob Arums claimed that a clash and rematch between Nonito Donaire and Naoya Inoue might take place next month. Although unusual to see that there still no clear updates now.

I don't think it will happen on the next month, Bob Arums seems hurried to make this fight will happen. This pandemic still not going well, Japan is really strict to keep their healthy and not affected. Maybe this fight will still happen in this year, but not too soon.

Though I want to see the rematch, but I'd interested to see Casimero vs Inoue first. Donaire is better than Casimero, so he should be in the last fight if Casimero lose from Inoue.

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Quote from: 24Kt on March 07, 2022, 06:50:03 PM

Quote from: harizen on March 07, 2022, 06:46:36 PM

Just recently, Bob Arums claimed that a clash and rematch between Nonito Donaire and Naoya Inoue might take place next month. Although unusual to see that there still no clear updates now.

Donaire-Inoue rematch in April ‘really close,’ says Arum.

It's better for me to have this first before anything else. They need a rematch. Donaire is the first boxer to give Inoue a tough and bloodied fight even. They should settle it for the 2nd time.

Wow, now Donaire got Inoue first. A lot are wanting to see the Inoue vs. Casimero. But seems that Donaire will finally settle what's left here. Can Donaire beat Inoue before his retirement? This will be another interesting fight. April is already next month, so maybe, both camps are in the final arrangement regarding this deal. But when it comes to favorite, I believe, Inoue will still be favored here and Donaire will be the underdog. Regarding the gap of odds, may not be that wide.

Since Casimero fight was delayed last December, it was rescheduled next month. It's a clear conflict if they are planning to clash with Inoue in the 2Q of the year that's why Donaire takes place which is also a deserve a rematch since he currently holds a Belt.

If Inoue will win in that fight, he will hold 3 titles and the remaining one is the one that Casimero hold to unify all the championship belts at Bantamweight division. Only if Casimero wins again Paul Butler.

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Quote from: harizen on March 07, 2022, 06:46:36 PM

Just recently, Bob Arums claimed that a clash and rematch between Nonito Donaire and Naoya Inoue might take place next month. Although unusual to see that there still no clear updates now.

Donaire-Inoue rematch in April ‘really close,’ says Arum.

It's better for me to have this first before anything else. They need a rematch. Donaire is the first boxer to give Inoue a tough and bloodied fight even. They should settle it for the 2nd time.

Wow, now Donaire got Inoue first. A lot are wanting to see the Inoue vs. Casimero. But seems that Donaire will finally settle what's left here. Can Donaire beat Inoue before his retirement? This will be another interesting fight. April is already next month, so maybe, both camps are in the final arrangement regarding this deal. But when it comes to favorite, I believe, Inoue will still be favored here and Donaire will be the underdog. Regarding the gap of odds, may not be that wide.

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Just recently, Bob Arums claimed that a clash and rematch between Nonito Donaire and Naoya Inoue might take place next month. Although unusual to see that there still no clear updates now.

Donaire-Inoue rematch in April ‘really close,’ says Arum.

It's better for me to have this first before anything else. They need a rematch. Donaire is the first boxer to give Inoue a tough and bloodied fight even. They should settle it for the 2nd time.

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Quote from: Kemarit on February 26, 2022, 09:15:53 PM

Unfortunately, I was wrong with the Taylor vs Jack Catterall, because Jack scored a knock down on Taylor and it was really close and competitive fight.

But at the end, the judges score the fight to Taylor, but a split decision, 113-112 (2x) for Taylor and the other judge score it 114-111 for Catterall.

So there is a controversy here, there is a consensus that Jack Catterall should have won the fight and this could be a case of robbery.

Here what I have always said in boxing is fulfilled, some statistics are difficult to break, in many places Taylor was considered the winner, most of the comments both on social networks and in the videos themselves were negative towards him, in this meeting it was something that I liked a lot, I saw technique, power, some say it wasn't that good, (of course when you lose it's not a good thing) but this type of fight drives the industry a lot and makes it grow. In this case when we see bets a lot in favor of another boxer, we have to become the devil's advocate and see everything from the point of view contrary to the crowd, it may be that there is the way to make more money.

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Unfortunately, I was wrong with the Taylor vs Jack Catterall, because Jack scored a knock down on Taylor and it was really close and competitive fight.

But at the end, the judges score the fight to Taylor, but a split decision, 113-112 and 114-111 for Taylor and the other judge score it 113-112 for Catterall.

So there is a controversy here, there is a consensus that Jack Catterall should have won the fight and this could be a case of robbery.

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Quote from: Maslate on February 19, 2022, 09:29:51 AM

Pretty obvious, it will be a big upset if Josh Taylor will lose in this fight, and not only that, he will also lose the opportunity to fight Crawford. Even though I believe that he will win the fight but I'm not risking 850 USD just to win 100 USD, that's insane.

Same here. Even it's a sure win or the chance is high, can't risk that kind of amount for a few bucks.

I'd rather bet on the winning method in favor of Josh Taylor. A Win by Knock Out seems more chances to happen instead of Decision.

I need more time to analyze the fight if ever I decide to place a bet.

The fight will be this weekend, so better be hurry if you want to bet on this one.

And as others said, one sided fight, so it's going to be a deliberate and long night for Jack Catterall.

Taylor promises a beat down and this will likely going to happen and Josh will dictate where the fight will go.

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Quote from: Maslate on February 19, 2022, 09:29:51 AM

Pretty obvious, it will be a big upset if Josh Taylor will lose in this fight, and not only that, he will also lose the opportunity to fight Crawford. Even though I believe that he will win the fight but I'm not risking 850 USD just to win 100 USD, that's insane.

Same here. Even it's a sure win or the chance is high, can't risk that kind of amount for a few bucks.

I'd rather bet on the winning method in favor of Josh Taylor. A Win by Knock Out seems more chances to happen instead of Decision.

I need more time to analyze the fight if ever I decide to place a bet.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 19, 2022, 05:59:46 AM

Quote from: Jating on February 19, 2022, 05:56:52 AM

I haven't seen a discussion between the unified 140 lbs champion Josh Taylor vs Jack Catterall.

This will happen on Feb. 26 and this is their press conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRhANw_-_bo

Perhaps there is no hype on this fight because of the weight category, we all know that big fight is in 147 lbs. But there is a potential clash and making some noise between Crawford going down to 140 lbs again to face Josh.

It's because of Taylor's opponent, that's why there is no buzz in this fight.

I guess the better move for him is to go to 147 and test the waters if he wins this fight. Or probably wait for the 135 lbs, like Lopez moving up in weight or even Tank Davis, who already try 140 lbs and won a belt. And that's where the money is, not fighting someone that boxing fans are not familiar.

We can also tell that the fight will be one sided basing on the betting odds alone.

https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/opening-josh-taylor-vs-jack-catterall-odds-for-undisputed-championship/

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Josh Taylor vs Jack Catterall Odds
Boxer   Odds
Josh Taylor   -850
Jack Catterall   +510

I'm not sure if that's the current odds now but I'm sure there's no major changes and Josh Taylor is still the heavy favorite.

Pretty obvious, it will be a big upset if Josh Taylor will lose in this fight, and not only that, he will also lose the opportunity to fight Crawford. Even though I believe that he will win the fight but I'm not risking 850 USD just to win 100 USD, that's insane.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 19, 2022, 05:59:46 AM

Quote from: Jating on February 19, 2022, 05:56:52 AM

I haven't seen a discussion between the unified 140 lbs champion Josh Taylor vs Jack Catterall.

This will happen on Feb. 26 and this is their press conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRhANw_-_bo

Perhaps there is no hype on this fight because of the weight category, we all know that big fight is in 147 lbs. But there is a potential clash and making some noise between Crawford going down to 140 lbs again to face Josh.

It's because of Taylor's opponent, that's why there is no buzz in this fight.

I guess the better move for him is to go to 147 and test the waters if he wins this fight. Or probably wait for the 135 lbs, like Lopez moving up in weight or even Tank Davis, who already try 140 lbs and won a belt. And that's where the money is, not fighting someone that boxing fans are not familiar.

We can also tell that the fight will be one sided basing on the betting odds alone.

https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/opening-josh-taylor-vs-jack-catterall-odds-for-undisputed-championship/

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Josh Taylor vs Jack Catterall Odds
Boxer   Odds
Josh Taylor   -850
Jack Catterall   +510

I'm not sure if that's the current odds now but I'm sure there's no major changes and Josh Taylor is still the heavy favorite.

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Quote from: Jating on February 19, 2022, 05:56:52 AM

I haven't seen a discussion between the unified 140 lbs champion Josh Taylor vs Jack Catterall.

This will happen on Feb. 26 and this is their press conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRhANw_-_bo

Perhaps there is no hype on this fight because of the weight category, we all know that big fight is in 147 lbs. But there is a potential clash and making some noise between Crawford going down to 140 lbs again to face Josh.

It's because of Taylor's opponent, that's why there is no buzz in this fight.

I guess the better move for him is to go to 147 and test the waters if he wins this fight. Or probably wait for the 135 lbs, like Lopez moving up in weight or even Tank Davis, who already try 140 lbs and won a belt. And that's where the money is, not fighting someone that boxing fans are not familiar.

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I haven't seen a discussion between the unified 140 lbs champion Josh Taylor vs Jack Catterall.

This will happen on Feb. 26 and this is their press conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRhANw_-_bo

Perhaps there is no hype on this fight because of the weight category, we all know that big fight is in 147 lbs. But there is a potential clash and making some noise between Crawford going down to 140 lbs again to face Josh.

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