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Quote from: UmerIdrees on November 27, 2021, 02:04:12 AM

I am not a big fan of boxing but sometimes i watch the matches when i heard upcoming matches here or on other boxing threads.

Just one question, what are the boxing biggest tournaments like in other sports for example in Cricket we have world cups, in football we have fifa wworldcup or Euro cup etc ?

While I do a quick research about your question, I think AIBA World Boxing Championships is the biggest and prestigious Boxing Championship. It is the highest level of competition for the sport, but maybe I am wrong since I am not a fan of boxing and do not watch boxing tournaments too often.

You can find the article here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIBA_World_Boxing_Championships and Google for more results.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on November 28, 2021, 01:33:06 AM

In any case, Fulton vs. Figueroa was also very good. It was a majority victory for Fulton. I think it was a better fight than Lopez vs. Kambosos.

For me the Lopez - Kambosos really lived to its hype, there's a lot of drama involved in the build-up, in the conferences and weigh-in even at the start of the fight, Lopez makes us all believe that he can knock Kambosos out in the first out, it's the biggest upset of the year for me, many looked down on Kambosos and many believed that this a tune-up for Lopez for big fights, but many of us are wrong and proved that Kambosos proved to be a better fighter, have you all noticed how audiences are booing Lopez after he stated that he wins the fight by 10-2, he is very delusional and drunk on his success.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on November 12, 2021, 11:28:21 PM

This thread is dedicated to the boxing speculations and predictions. I have seen that we have a dedicated thread for all other sports but every time there is a new boxing match, i see a new thread being created for this.

Its better if we can discuss all the boxing related material in this place.

No matter how we wanted this mate yet Thread will comes out here and there in this section because more boxing fans wanted to talk about their favorite boxers in specific thread without any flooding of conversation.
if this thread will have all the incoming boxing events then where this will heading? I agreed on your intention but I'm sure this will never comes that way.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on November 26, 2021, 05:42:58 PM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on November 22, 2021, 11:32:49 PM

Also include the date. Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. is scheduled to fight this Saturday or early morning Sunday in Europe.

What is everyone’s prediction? I am shaking my head why the sportsbooks predict that Teofimo Lopez will have a higher chance to win through a knockout than a decision. His opponent is undefeated and this fight is only in lightweight boxing which is very light hehehe. It is 20 pounds lighter than MMA’s lightweight division. I predict Lopez by decision with very good odds.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/lopez-teofimo-vs-kambosos-jr-george-6171c2308ae38529363d9690

I think I have included the dates and it is highlighted with a color green font, and just like you, I think that Teofimo Lopez advantage, and at 1st I thought this fight will never come to light when Kambosos Jr. Slammed Lopex for not announcing that he has Covid-19 and would tweet "Disciplined to the game! Not like some FUGAZI’S" understandably Kambosos is the underdog where if we look at the odds Teofimo is the favorite, Lopez power punch is a difference-maker, Teofimo Lopez has great head movement, and incredible reflex and Teofimo have a win over Lomachenko, I think he can surely outperform Kambosos Jr. and has a lot of technical skills compare to his opponent, I will go with Teofimo Lopez.

@bisdak said in another thread that Teofimo Lopez’s victory versus Lomachenko was a fluke. He also said that Lomachenko is the biggest name in Lopez’s young boxing record. He is clearly correct hehe. Why do the boxing experts in this subforum not share this type of information before the fight hehehe.

In any case, Fulton vs. Figueroa was also very good. It was a majority victory for Fulton. I think it was a better fight than Lopez vs. Kambosos.

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I am not a big fan of boxing but sometimes i watch the matches when i heard upcoming matches here or on other boxing threads.

Just one question, what are the boxing biggest tournaments like in other sports for example in Cricket we have world cups, in football we have fifa wworldcup or Euro cup etc ?

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on November 22, 2021, 11:32:49 PM

Also include the date. Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. is scheduled to fight this Saturday or early morning Sunday in Europe.

What is everyone’s prediction? I am shaking my head why the sportsbooks predict that Teofimo Lopez will have a higher chance to win through a knockout than a decision. His opponent is undefeated and this fight is only in lightweight boxing which is very light hehehe. It is 20 pounds lighter than MMA’s lightweight division. I predict Lopez by decision with very good odds.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/lopez-teofimo-vs-kambosos-jr-george-6171c2308ae38529363d9690

I think I have included the dates and it is highlighted with a color green font, and just like you, I think that Teofimo Lopez advantage, and at 1st I thought this fight will never come to light when Kambosos Jr. Slammed Lopex for not announcing that he has Covid-19 and would tweet "Disciplined to the game! Not like some FUGAZI’S" understandably Kambosos is the underdog where if we look at the odds Teofimo is the favorite, Lopez power punch is a difference-maker, Teofimo Lopez has great head movement, and incredible reflex and Teofimo have a win over Lomachenko, I think he can surely outperform Kambosos Jr. and has a lot of technical skills compare to his opponent, I will go with Teofimo Lopez.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on November 21, 2021, 02:16:23 PM

The Tim Tszyu vs Takeshi Inoue was not that great of a fight but we can call both men a warrior for finishing the 12 rounds, and it was really a heated battle, I don't see much head movement on Takeshi Inoue, but Tim Tszyu sure has precision in his punch but it certainly lacks the power, because there are much punch Tszyu has landed on the head and face, but Inoue just keeps on fighting, or surely Takeshi Inoue has a durable face and chin, to begin with, I say I have stayed away from betting, but I have predicted that Tim Tszyu will surely win this,

Upcoming fights for the Month of November,

November 26, 2021

Ohara Davies VS Ismael Barroso

November 27, 2021

Stephen Fulton VS Brandon Figueroa

Teofimo Lopez VS George Kambosos Jr.

Raeese Aleem VS Eduardo Baez

Azinga Fuzile VS Kenichi Ogawa

Also include the date. Teofimo Lopez vs. George Kambosos Jr. is scheduled to fight this Saturday or early morning Sunday in Europe.

What is everyone’s prediction? I am shaking my head why the sportsbooks predict that Teofimo Lopez will have a higher chance to win through a knockout than a decision. His opponent is undefeated and this fight is only in lightweight boxing which is very light hehehe. It is 20 pounds lighter than MMA’s lightweight division. I predict Lopez by decision with very good odds.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/lopez-teofimo-vs-kambosos-jr-george-6171c2308ae38529363d9690

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Quote from: wxa7115 on November 19, 2021, 12:35:58 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on November 17, 2021, 01:41:19 PM

Totally agree with you. The creation of separate threads for each fight is inevitable - during the time it takes to announce, prepare and then carry out a fight in football, it has time to go through a whole rally of the national championship. This is a huge distance. If we discuss all the fights in one thread, then it will be an unreadable mess.

Maybe a better idea would be to have some of the fights that are not really that popular on this thread and have the rest of the fights that attract a lot of fans have their own thread, as people are going to want to discuss every single detail of those fights.

To me this seems like the best compromise, as it is inevitable that people are going to create threads for those fights and that the discussion is going to be concentrated there as it would be more readable for the average member a thread like that than a thread that is full of discussions about different fights.

Yes, this option looks reasonable, in the end, I think that most of the writers here (if we remove some exceptions when, for example, a boxer is from the writer's native country), the main interest is to discuss the odds for betting. There should not be too long discussions of one fight because of that.

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Quote from: Jating on November 20, 2021, 04:59:46 AM

^ Yes, big fights should have it's own thread because of the scope.

Like recently we will have another Canelo fight in the horizon and it will involved Canelo going up in weight. So for me it deserves it's own thread because there are a lot of speculation on it. Or in the case the Loma fight vs Commey, another big fight this December and we will see Loma in action again and this time it will be against another former champion. So that is another thread that is good to have a separate discussion, just my 2 cents.

I support this thread but you are right there are big fights that deserve their own thread because of the scope of discussion this is so we can follow the flow of discussion and we'll have every detail of the fight as it progresses, the Canelo Makabu fight is a big fight that we want to explore everything about the fight, how they hype, how the media covers it and what both fighters think about their opponent and the fight, in general, it's hard to keep it all up imagine 3 to 4 big fights in one thread with over 5 to 15 members commenting, where the best points of the discussions are buried.

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The Tim Tszyu vs Takeshi Inoue was not that great of a fight but we can call both men a warrior for finishing the 12 rounds, and it was really a heated battle, I don't see much head movement on Takeshi Inoue, but Tim Tszyu sure has precision in his punch but it certainly lacks the power, because there are much punch Tszyu has landed on the head and face, but Inoue just keeps on fighting, or surely Takeshi Inoue has a durable face and chin, to begin with, I say I have stayed away from betting, but I have predicted that Tim Tszyu will surely win this,

Upcoming fights for the Month of November,

November 26, 2021

Ohara Davies VS Ismael Barroso

November 27, 2021

Stephen Fulton VS Brandon Figueroa

Teofimo Lopez VS George Kambosos Jr.

Raeese Aleem VS Eduardo Baez

Azinga Fuzile VS Kenichi Ogawa

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Quote from: wxa7115 on November 19, 2021, 12:35:58 PM

Maybe a better idea would be to have some of the fights that are not really that popular on this thread and have the rest of the fights that attract a lot of fans have their own thread, as people are going to want to discuss every single detail of those fights.

To me this seems like the best compromise, as it is inevitable that people are going to create threads for those fights and that the discussion is going to be concentrated there as it would be more readable for the average member a thread like that than a thread that is full of discussions about different fights.

I think this sounds better because if we were going to talk to a single thread with all of the upcoming fights I'm afraid that we were not going to make the conversion in the thread organize. Though it is a good idea to put a same discussion into a single thread but there are some fights that attract a lot of fans and just wanted to focus on the said topic. I think the best feature that we could have here in this thread is talking all about the fighters specifically like skills and capabilities in the ring, well it's just my opinion.

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^ Yes, big fights should have it's own thread because of the scope.

Like recently we will have another Canelo fight in the horizon and it will involved Canelo going up in weight. So for me it deserves it's own thread because there are a lot of speculation on it. Or in the case the Loma fight vs Commey, another big fight this December and we will see Loma in action again and this time it will be against another former champion. So that is another thread that is good to have a separate discussion, just my 2 cents.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on November 19, 2021, 12:35:58 PM

Maybe a better idea would be to have some of the fights that are not really that popular on this thread and have the rest of the fights that attract a lot of fans have their own thread, as people are going to want to discuss every single detail of those fights.

This is a great idea because there are a lot of boxing matches that we missed and not create threads about them because of the thought people might not want to engage in giving speculations as the fighters involved are not so popular.

Quote from: wxa7115 on November 19, 2021, 12:35:58 PM

To me this seems like the best compromise, as it is inevitable that people are going to create threads for those fights and that the discussion is going to be concentrated there as it would be more readable for the average member a thread like that than a thread that is full of discussions about different fights.

For me, fights involving Canelo, Teofimo Lopez, Loma, and other big names deserve to have a thread of its own as there are a lot of discussions and speculation as they are well known and many are following them.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 17, 2021, 01:41:19 PM

Quote from: robelneo on November 14, 2021, 12:17:08 AM

I have no problem with creating a thread like this, but for me, I want a dedicated discussion on a particular boxing match so we can dwell on the strength and weaknesses of each fighter and give hints or tips for those who like to bet on that particular fight, the flow of discussion will always be on-topic about one particular match.

Totally agree with you. The creation of separate threads for each fight is inevitable - during the time it takes to announce, prepare and then carry out a fight in football, it has time to go through a whole rally of the national championship. This is a huge distance. If we discuss all the fights in one thread, then it will be an unreadable mess.

Maybe a better idea would be to have some of the fights that are not really that popular on this thread and have the rest of the fights that attract a lot of fans have their own thread, as people are going to want to discuss every single detail of those fights.

To me this seems like the best compromise, as it is inevitable that people are going to create threads for those fights and that the discussion is going to be concentrated there as it would be more readable for the average member a thread like that than a thread that is full of discussions about different fights.

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Quote from: robelneo on November 14, 2021, 12:17:08 AM

I have no problem with creating a thread like this, but for me, I want a dedicated discussion on a particular boxing match so we can dwell on the strength and weaknesses of each fighter and give hints or tips for those who like to bet on that particular fight, the flow of discussion will always be on-topic about one particular match.

Totally agree with you. The creation of separate threads for each fight is inevitable - during the time it takes to announce, prepare and then carry out a fight in football, it has time to go through a whole rally of the national championship. This is a huge distance. If we discuss all the fights in one thread, then it will be an unreadable mess.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on November 12, 2021, 11:28:21 PM

Its better if we can discuss all the boxing related material in this place.

Maybe, but not possible, boxing is individual, the match schedule is also uncertain, sometimes the schedule has been determined can change in a matter of hours, questionable, A1,A2,A3 and so on, one thread one problem.

But there's one thing you need to learn, if this thread should lead to boxing discussions.
• You must provide all schedules and opponents betting in the boxing ring each period.
For example:
Casimero vs. Butler
Nonito Donaire vs. Reymart
Tyson vs. Paul.

And so on, when do they bet, where, who is the opponent, boxing cancellation and so on related to boxing.

Most people create boxing topics, discussing at length whether it's opponents, dates, places, ages, and so on, but if you have new information about boxing it might not be a problem this thread is specifically for boxing.
But if you don't have any new information about the new boxing, maybe other members will create a topic and discuss it, on and on it will happen.

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Quote from: agustina2 on November 15, 2021, 06:46:23 PM

I'm 100% sure this thread will be flooded with different conversations. No need for testing lol.

Changing this thread to a summary of the fights might be a good look for easy browsing. I'm in favor of that and will support the thread. But for discussion, a big no. Just see how populated those boxing threads and you can imagine how mixed will be the topic here. Boxing doesn't have any leagues. Their events are individual so it needs an own thread. Can also create spam posts as anyone will just post any matches here, even not a popular fight, since it's boxing.

There are surely many who's not going to read and will start at the end of the post so they will not see the highlighted match that is available for discussion but you are simply right that this thread is going to be flooded by various boxing events and some people that are not interested in some matches it is normal for them to start a new topic, and not like in UFC that has 1 event for all matches in various division, we can sure have a by month topic discussion for fights that will be on that month, but surely many are not going to read the Thread Starters rules or things that need to do, but maybe we need to set an example for them by posting certain matches that will be on the month of November.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on November 16, 2021, 03:41:17 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on November 16, 2021, 12:51:22 AM

Quote from: agustina2 on November 15, 2021, 06:46:23 PM

I'm 100% sure this thread will be flooded with different conversations. No need for testing lol.

Changing this thread to a summary of the fights might be a good look for easy browsing. I'm in favor of that and will support the thread. But for discussion, a big no. Just see how populated those boxing threads and you can imagine how mixed will be the topic here. Boxing doesn't have any leagues. Their events are individual so it needs an own thread. Can also create spam posts as anyone will just post any matches here, even not a popular fight, since it's boxing.

Boxing has different organizations, the WBA, WBC, WBO, the IBF and there are others. There are also very many promoters, so many weight divisions and the WBA also has the regular champion and the super champion. Everything is very confusing and disorganized in boxing to include in one thread.

@noormcs5. You should create threads separate for WBA, WBC, WBO and IBF gambling and predictions.

That's true it's quite confusing and besides these boxing matches are promotion based, I read in one post of Mayweather that they want to keep things in the house, which means he will not let his prized fighters to fights fighters from other promotions, and this is why we see fighters not fighting boxers that they need to fight, one case here is the Spence and Crawford issue both fighters are on different promotion and they cannot agree on many things about the condition of the fight.

However, having all boxing discussions on gambling and speculation in one thread also opens discussions for other proposed fights in the news without creating a new thread. As an example, Canelo has been approved to fight the cruiserweight champion. I reckon some shitposting intruders in the gambling subforum would be excited to open a new thread even if there is no date or if the proposed fight would really be organized.

If opening a thread for each boxing organization is also confusing, I suggest everyone to start their posts with a [WBA], [WBC], [WBO], [IBF] in this thread.

Canelo Alvarez is going to get his shot at a fifth division world title in 2022.

The WBC approved Alvarez’s move up to cruiserweight so he can take on current champion Ilunga "Junior" Makabu. Details about the fight are not yet known, though it is expected to take place in May and could take place in Makabu's native Congo, per ESPN.

Source https://sports.yahoo.com/wbc-approves-canelo-alvarezs-jump-to-take-on-ilunga-makabu-for-cruiserweight-title-005615483.html

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Quote from: goinmerry on November 15, 2021, 06:53:05 PM

Can you start the discussion now OP? It will trigger some responses. In that way, the thread will now start in action to see if it's effective to have all boxing-related discussions here. To start with, do you mean, you are encouraging those thread starters of those boxing topics here to bring their topic here in this thread and lock the current ones?

For now, we have at least 5-6 active boxing threads if I'm not mistaken. Let's see how much volume it will create. Although, it will be a manual search if we like to see who replies to our post. Not a problem if there are not many replies made since our last post but a problem if it's another way around.

Right, I think this thread might be based on a football speculation thread that was made before, the OP intentions are certainly very good if you want to open a new thread for a discussion, but it seems that there is has a lot of discussion about boxing at this time in my opinion and even a lot of old match threads are still being discussed, after all boxing is a sport there is very little speculation and rumors that occur in contrast to team sports such as football.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on November 16, 2021, 12:51:22 AM

Quote from: agustina2 on November 15, 2021, 06:46:23 PM

I'm 100% sure this thread will be flooded with different conversations. No need for testing lol.

Changing this thread to a summary of the fights might be a good look for easy browsing. I'm in favor of that and will support the thread. But for discussion, a big no. Just see how populated those boxing threads and you can imagine how mixed will be the topic here. Boxing doesn't have any leagues. Their events are individual so it needs an own thread. Can also create spam posts as anyone will just post any matches here, even not a popular fight, since it's boxing.

Boxing has different organizations, the WBA, WBC, WBO, the IBF and there are others. There are also very many promoters, so many weight divisions and the WBA also has the regular champion and the super champion. Everything is very confusing and disorganized in boxing to include in one thread.

@noormcs5. You should create threads separate for WBA, WBC, WBO and IBF gambling and predictions.

That's true it's quite confusing and besides these boxing matches are promotion based, I read in one post of Mayweather that they want to keep things in the house, which means he will not let his prized fighters to fights fighters from other promotions, and this is why we see fighters not fighting boxers that they need to fight, one case here is the Spence and Crawford issue both fighters are on different promotion and they cannot agree on many things about the condition of the fight.

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