Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 40. (Read 31605 times)

There are a lot of fans waiting for someone to knock Inoue out. But even if we want to see that happen someday, if he's on his prime and he don't want to accept offers outside his home country then we just better accept the fact that he's always at advantage.

For fighters like Casimero, it doesn't matter if he's gonna have the fight inside or outside the host country. What matters to him is that he should fight him soon. Well, he's been mentioned by the Inoue's camp that he's likely to get boxed at the end of this year.

But it's still a long time and we'll see the development of it.

for now, i don't think casimero has the chance to fight inoue, considering in the next 6 months or a year. there will be other boxers in line before him. but i do agree, there are so many boxing fans waiting for this match. just think of the thread here before dedicating for these 2. we had a long discussion but didn't come to reality. as they are claiming before that inoue was quite scared of casimero's strength inside the ring. well, we haven't seen them yet inside the ring. so that is yet to be seen.

It's all about the money mate, obviously it was a hot topic with the war going on in Russia. But Bivol was able to fight after his win on Canelo in Saudi recently, so it just shows that if everything is right and everyone is making money to promoters, boxers and organizations and it's coming from the oil rich country, then they can step aside everything and push the fight.

So I believed that this fight is going to happen and Mauricio is going to be in a hurry to put this fight in the line for the Saudis and make a U-turn as far his political views.

Definitely, Beterbiev might be the favorite in this fight, but it could be closer.

I had no time to watch it live but I know how destructive Artur Beterbiev is so I watched the highlights and it was what I expected, too bad that we don't seem to see him soon inside the ring because obviously, no opponent will try their luck against that brutal puncher ever unless he is Bivol or some boxer who is willing to risk it all for a huge paycheck. Looks like he runs out of opponents due to his legendary boxing skills and it seems there will be no other choice out there but to match him with Bivol. How I wish to see him fight at least thrice a year but due to his knockout skills no one would ever dare to even provoke him with their words.

Nery could fight Casimero if he wins the fight, it's still a good fight though. But, as we all know, the chance of Nery winning via an upset is very slim, more like 10% or even lower based on the betting odds now, so I don't expect him to win. Inoue vs Casimero, such an entertaining fight in paper, but let's see if promoters will agree to this, especially on the side of Inoue who are dictating the terms.


I'm sure Casimero's camp already have that in their plan, Inoue wants a worthy opponent and it will not happen if Casimero will not show a fight that he wins impressively.

Yup, even, how desperate the fans might be the decision will always be with Inoue's camp. Like what you mentioned, it's all set to face Nery, who is the number 1 challenger. Inoue will again be tested in this division as he holds all the belts. We don't know what the outcome will be of that said upcoming fight, so better not to speculate yet about what the possibilities for Casimero if he will be next in line.

It's better for him and his camp to deal with another camp and bring his name up to get that decent opportunity to call for Inoue.

Will the money that the Saudis will offer be enough for WBC president Mauricio Sulaimán to allow a unification fight against Bivol without removing Beterbiev from his WBC light heavyweight championship? Is the war between Russia and Ukraine not anymore on Sulaimán's agenda?

I speculate that many boxing fans might predict this to be a victory for Beterbiev but the sportsbooks will list Bivol with very small odds heheheee.

Callum Smith is really a tough nut to crack There were really a lot of shots he got from Artur Beterbiev but he is still standing tall and Beterbiev is a knockout artist for sure those shots that he gave to Smith were that impressive for him to be standing so this is a real feat for Artur Beterbiev to knockout Callum Smith because there still no boxer that knocks him like this, and the corner of Callum Smith had seen enough that they need to stop the match,

That was great news the Arab people really want to see some real action after the recent match of Dmitry Bivol against Lyndon Arthur, and not Artur Beterbiev's fight against Callum Smith they surely witnessed a master class fight so they are also curious why people want that fight to happen for sure this is something they are curious about aswell,

^^ It was one sided fight for Arthur Beterbiev over Callum Smith, Smith though fight valiantly, but Beterbiev is too much for him that he wasn't able to take advantage of his height and reach against the shorter Beterbiev. And then he eat a lot of punches,


https://www.boxingscene.com/bob-arum-optimistic-beterbiev-bivol-happen-expects-saudi-arabia-stage-it-summer--180730

So it's good to hear that Saudi is very interested to see the Bivol vs Beterbiev unification fight. And we all know that if this rich oil nation wanted it, definitely money is not going to be a problem as long as they can make the fight happen in their country in Riyadh Season. Most likely we will see this huge fight at 175 lbs.

For sure I want to see if John Riel Casimero is telling the truth and if he can really beat Naoya Inoue or if it is just all bark, but for sure it is still promising to see what he can really do inside the ring with Naoya Inoue, for sure John Riel Casimero is already readying something in advance so yeah Casimero don't really holds anything as he doesn't have the champion that Naoya Inoue needed, for sure he can let Casimero Slip by, but what Casimero is holding dear was their last fight that was canceled,


For sure many want to see that fight and I also do, but Sadly Naoya Inoue can ignore Casimero and go for the other title belts for sure the word deserving is likely can be put to him, but do you think even if he deserves a fight doesn't mean that Naoya Inoue will not say no to this, because he surely can, but don't get me wrong Casimero is surely a dangerous fighter that is why the camp of Inoue doesn't want to risk it on him because there are other title fights that need to be get, and it is just a waste of time for them to give it to Casimero, for sure John Riel Casimero was right for giving Inoue the name Japanese Turtle,

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Artur Beterbiev VS Callum Smith

Have you just seen this fight, it was a one-sided fight as Artur Beterbiev devastated the fighter that is never been knockout, Callum Smith it was a really fierce fight for sure Artur Beterbiev sent a devastating blow to Callum Smith truly you must see the match on the 1st round Beterbiev just let out a blitz of punches on Smith and you can hear the sound of his heavy punch, hitting Smith, it was brutal,

Inoue will be fighting Nery, the number 1 challenger this May.

Naoya Inoue vs Luis Nery reportedly agreed for May in Tokyo

The speculation now is who will be nexst in line, will it be Casimero or another boxer that has a better ranking than him? I know there are a lot of Filipino fans here, we are so bias when it come to our fight, we want Casimero to have a chance to fight Inoue, but as you said, that depends on the promoter.

And for a gambler perspective Casimero is a good fighter to challenge Inoue, though it will going to depend from how the promoters will push that possibility to engage into a negotiation against Inoue, but as of this moment there are more fighters who are also willing to challenge Inoue, fighters who also taking their time to have that chance.

It's on Inoue's camp to work out to whoever side they will choose for the next fight for Inoue, we just need to wait for any update and announcement from his camp.

He used to be the WBO bantamweight champion of the world, so he at some point in his career a top boxer and and elite one. The problem started with Inoue when he can't make the weight of 118 lbs and so he was stripped of the belt. He has been campaigning around the world not just in the US so he is well known. He is supposed to defend that belt in UK before he was stripped.

So I disagree with how you say that Casimero is not a big boxer or not well-known. Him and Inoue should have fought in 118 lbs if not for the weight issues. And so since both of them are in the superbantamweight of 122 lbs now, there is a potential that can can face each other finally.

Inoue lost his position and I think Nery and Akhmadaliev deserves the number 1 and number 2 spot as the next opponent of of Naoya.

I don't think that Inoue can skip Akhmadaliev as he is the mandatory for one of the belts that Inoue hold. Remember that Tapales took that belt away from Akhmadaliev, so the line goes to Akhmadaliev and that's why he is the next in line.

As as we have discussed, Casimero needs a impressive win in his next fight.

lol . not a Big boxer? have you tried checking his records? or you are just relying in what you are reading in the news in your country? and how come that you said he is not popular in USA and just in the Philippines ? have not you seen his fights recently  that he is fighting against champion from other countries? that means he is not just popular in the philippines bit also in other countries though you are correct not that popular in USA , but promoters knows whom they will blend to fight and I think casimero is one of the names that will face Inoue any time soon.

Yes, it depends on the promoter but I disagree with you about Casimero not a top boxer, only popular in the Philippines, not in the US. Even Inoue is not popular in US since most of his fights are in Japan, but if you care to look at Casimero's record, you will see that he had been in many country to challenge their champion, that's why he is called a road warrior.

As per record, Casimero has more fights in US/Europe than Inoue.

John Riel Casimero' boxing record.

casimero is not a big boxer and not a top boxer. and only from the philippines not the USA. so it will be difficult to fight inoue. not because of his boxing quality but promoters need big names so that their boxing events can generate large profits and a lot. if inoue is of course whoever the opponent is offered by the promoter must be served. if the promoter doesn't want it, it's hard for a fight to happen.

If Casimero really has an influence and can have positive impact on Inoue efforts to get more titles then it is possible that their fight will really be hot fight.
But this still looks quite unlikely because Inoue has target of getting an opponent who could have much greater influence on his achievements.

Inoue will indeed face Nery and of course Nery will be much more dangerous than Tapales, this will be more difficult fight for Inoue.
It just that we don't know whether after the fight against Nery there will be an opportunity for meeting between Inoue and Casimero because there is possibility that Inoue could move up to featherweight and fight great fighters there such as Rey Vargas and Luis Lopez.
I think Casimero chance of meeting Inoue depends on the outcome of Inoue fight against Nery.

I think Casimero deserve to fight against Inoue, if not only beacuse of the ranking of Casimero, he for sure is the best opponent of Inoue that could potentially beat the Beast. We all know what happen to Casimero, he didn't lose to a fighter, he just made a mistake that's why he was stripped with his belt. So with that, I still think that Casimero is still a dangerous fighter that's why Inoue can't say yes to him.


Next could be Akhmadaliev as he is next in line, but who knows, if Inoue will skip him after Nery, the better, it's good for boxing, as no one would watch Inoue fighting a boxer that was already defeated by a champ he recently defeated. Inoue- Casimero, is more interesting to watch.

^^ For sure, Casimero is going after Inoue but he has to wait, and all he can do right now is call him through his social media accounts and it's obvious that it's just for publicity stunt as he knows that his time is running out.

Inoue is scheduled to fight Nery and then another boxer that Tapales has beaten already. And only after that Casimero might get his chance, but still up to Inoue as Casimero's name is somewhat in the middle as far as super bantamweight goes as he is no longer a champion, so he has no leverage but to create a hype and call Inoue in his social media for publicity.