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Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 14, 2024, 10:58:16 PM

@Baofeng. What fight would make more money, if Munguia fights Canelo or if Charlo fights Canelo?

Depends on the location, if it will be in Mexico, then Munguia vs Canelo might be huge. Or if it is wherein there are a lot of Mexicans like in San Antonio or Munguia's home town of Phoenix, then it will be a lot of money as well.

He will be fighting a Charlo that has been out for almost a 2 years because of mental health, and then a career middle weight fighter.

So it's going to be a hard sell, but then again when he fought Jermell, a 154 lbs it did make good money, 650,000-700,000 pay per view buys. So still Canelo is the cash cow.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 14, 2024, 10:58:16 PM

@Dave1. No, Oscar dela Hoya only said something good about Munguia and the sportsnews media hyped it for your clicks heheheh.

No, Oscar has been hyping Munguia since he got him under contract. And we all know that Oscar is good at hyping his fighters. And so with that, his wound with Canelo leaving him is still fresh and he wanted a story line that the young Munguia will be the next Mexican star and will beat Canelo.

Well we can say that the media also hype him, maybe it's because of the youth of Jaime or his personality that is similar to Oscar. Vibrant and young and boxing media love that kind of personality to say the least.

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@btc_angela. On David Benavidez, agreed! However, on Munguia, who is this fighter? Who are the big names in his record? John Ryder? This is headshaking. Canelo will body punch him and put him on a stetcher.

@Dave1. No, Oscar dela Hoya only said something good about Munguia and the sportsnews media hyped it for your clicks heheheh.

@Baofeng. What fight would make more money, if Munguia fights Canelo or if Charlo fights Canelo?

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 13, 2024, 10:45:32 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on February 13, 2024, 04:44:09 PM

Oh well, I thought that Canelo will announced his next fight as everyone is eager to wait for it since Monday when all the boxing social media says that he will make a important announcement this Tuesday,

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The Mexican superstar stated during an interview with TV Azteca, with which he announced the renewal of their broadcast partnership in his home country, that he will return to the ring May 4 in Las Vegas. The date and city for Alvarez’s next fight were well known, but the four-division champion also noted that he will face an American opponent that night, not a fellow Mexican.

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-indirectly-rules-out-munguia-opponent-4-fight-azteca-tv-announcement--181402

But I have a feeling that his next fight will be Charlo and not Munguia or Benavidez.

It will be Charlo, I reckon. This has a revenge the brother storyline that can certainly cause much excitement for the fans heheehe. Canelo can lose vs. David Benavidez, it will certainly be good for him to avoid Benavidez. On Munguia, who is this? He knocks out John Ryder then everyone considers him worthy to challenge for the unified super middleweight championship? This is very head shaking, Munguia was only hyped by the sportsnews media after Oscar dela Hoya mentioned him that he is the best in the world. He clearly does not believe this.

Same here mate, I'm seeing that Canelo will choose Charlo as it is less riskier for him at this point. David Benavidez is huge while Munguia is with Oscar and maybe he doesn't want to give his former promoter a chance hehehe. And both two are Mexicans and Canelo "doesn't want to fight another Mexican".

Or the reason that you have to earn your fight with him, Lol.

And obviously Canelo did sign with PBC so it's going to be a PBC fighter in Jermall Charlo. So Canelo right now is full of contradiction. Saying that he is willing to fight the best and then later fight the twins who are way below the super middleweight and one came from injury and then the other long layoff because of mental issues.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 13, 2024, 04:44:09 PM

Oh well, I thought that Canelo will announced his next fight as everyone is eager to wait for it since Monday when all the boxing social media says that he will make a important announcement this Tuesday,

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The Mexican superstar stated during an interview with TV Azteca, with which he announced the renewal of their broadcast partnership in his home country, that he will return to the ring May 4 in Las Vegas. The date and city for Alvarez’s next fight were well known, but the four-division champion also noted that he will face an American opponent that night, not a fellow Mexican.

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-indirectly-rules-out-munguia-opponent-4-fight-azteca-tv-announcement--181402

But I have a feeling that his next fight will be Charlo and not Munguia or Benavidez.

It will be Charlo, I reckon. This has a revenge the brother storyline that can certainly cause much excitement for the fans heheehe. Canelo can lose vs. David Benavidez, it will certainly be good for him to avoid Benavidez. On Munguia, who is this? He knocks out John Ryder then everyone considers him worthy to challenge for the unified super middleweight championship? This is very head shaking, Munguia was only hyped by the sportsnews media after Oscar dela Hoya mentioned him that he is the best in the world. He clearly does not believe this.

Or maybe it was Oscar plan to get his revenge on Benavidez, after he gets out of this contract with Oscar and then obviously there are sour feelings between the two. So definitely there will be a storyline for this fight.

But then again, with Canelo already having a good money in his pocket already and doesn't want to take risk, then Jermall Charlo will be a good choice for him under his PBC contract. If I'm Benavidez though, I will go directly to 175 lbs and chance greatness and wait for the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 13, 2024, 10:45:32 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on February 13, 2024, 04:44:09 PM

Oh well, I thought that Canelo will announced his next fight as everyone is eager to wait for it since Monday when all the boxing social media says that he will make a important announcement this Tuesday,

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The Mexican superstar stated during an interview with TV Azteca, with which he announced the renewal of their broadcast partnership in his home country, that he will return to the ring May 4 in Las Vegas. The date and city for Alvarez’s next fight were well known, but the four-division champion also noted that he will face an American opponent that night, not a fellow Mexican.

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-indirectly-rules-out-munguia-opponent-4-fight-azteca-tv-announcement--181402

But I have a feeling that his next fight will be Charlo and not Munguia or Benavidez.

It will be Charlo, I reckon. This has a revenge the brother storyline that can certainly cause much excitement for the fans heheehe. Canelo can lose vs. David Benavidez, it will certainly be good for him to avoid Benavidez. On Munguia, who is this? He knocks out John Ryder then everyone considers him worthy to challenge for the unified super middleweight championship? This is very head shaking, Munguia was only hyped by the sportsnews media after Oscar dela Hoya mentioned him that he is the best in the world. He clearly does not believe this.

Yeah, I don't think that Canelo is going to give either Munguia or Benavidez a chance to fight and beat him. Canelo is on the twilight of his career and just fighting for the money and he thinks that he sealed his legacy already.

But one thing we can comment if he decided to fight another Charlo is,

Both of them are coming up to his weight class, the first Charlo, 154 lbs and then the second one is 160 lbs. So he made them jump up and so the advantage is on Canelo. So I don't think that it will sit with his fans or even his critics for fighting Jermall next.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 13, 2024, 04:44:09 PM

Oh well, I thought that Canelo will announced his next fight as everyone is eager to wait for it since Monday when all the boxing social media says that he will make a important announcement this Tuesday,

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The Mexican superstar stated during an interview with TV Azteca, with which he announced the renewal of their broadcast partnership in his home country, that he will return to the ring May 4 in Las Vegas. The date and city for Alvarez’s next fight were well known, but the four-division champion also noted that he will face an American opponent that night, not a fellow Mexican.

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-indirectly-rules-out-munguia-opponent-4-fight-azteca-tv-announcement--181402

But I have a feeling that his next fight will be Charlo and not Munguia or Benavidez.

It will be Charlo, I reckon. This has a revenge the brother storyline that can certainly cause much excitement for the fans heheehe. Canelo can lose vs. David Benavidez, it will certainly be good for him to avoid Benavidez. On Munguia, who is this? He knocks out John Ryder then everyone considers him worthy to challenge for the unified super middleweight championship? This is very head shaking, Munguia was only hyped by the sportsnews media after Oscar dela Hoya mentioned him that he is the best in the world. He clearly does not believe this.

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Oh well, I thought that Canelo will announced his next fight as everyone is eager to wait for it since Monday when all the boxing social media says that he will make a important announcement this Tuesday,

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The Mexican superstar stated during an interview with TV Azteca, with which he announced the renewal of their broadcast partnership in his home country, that he will return to the ring May 4 in Las Vegas. The date and city for Alvarez’s next fight were well known, but the four-division champion also noted that he will face an American opponent that night, not a fellow Mexican.

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-indirectly-rules-out-munguia-opponent-4-fight-azteca-tv-announcement--181402

But I have a feeling that his next fight will be Charlo and not Munguia or Benavidez.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on February 05, 2024, 02:56:52 AM

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They cannot force themselves to fight each other while there are lots of opportunities waiting for them and they could just simply make this fight happen after they successfully beat every challenger and run out of any available opponent that could fit their strength. Anyway, that would be best for them if they could just wait before making any arrangements for their fight because as we know, Inoue is slowly making a world record for himself and not letting this chance go to waste because this is not something others can have to demolish everyone who wants to challenge him and take their belts.

I agree with you, each fighter will go their own way in making decisions, they have more fights that can challenge in the future for more titles.
When all of this is failed just because of fight that some people hope for then they will regret it, there will be nothing valuable that can be obtained in the future.
It better to really fight in the right place where everything is equal in weight and class entered, this will be able to provide more dominant success.

Quote from: terrific on February 05, 2024, 12:22:06 PM

Quote from: Hirose UK on February 05, 2024, 02:56:52 AM

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IMO, he should stay where he is right now and wait for more challengers to come. But if he's bored there already and can't do that much then it's time for him to start challenging on a higher weight division. That's the way to go for him to get more championships and he's already proven himself to his current weight class. If he wants to prove more things then that's what he has to do as he's already unbeatable and proved as a monster there.

Inoue has been able to combine 4 titles and get an undisputed title, this is very short success and there is no point in staying in one place.
It time for Inoue to move up to another higher division and get more titles in better class, he is monster in his class and no opponent can really compete for the titles he already has.
Waiting for challenger would only be waste of time.
But not against Davis because Inoue really has to be the same weight.

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And His Highness, Turki Alalshikh has a ruthless reaction to the Ferrari demands of Gervonta Davis. Alalshikh stated that he would send only two gloves. That implies Alalshikh is not accepting the delayings numerous boxers are doing whatever it takes to not face the best.
https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2024/02/04/65bef0d9e2704eab188b4579.html

That is very bad for Gervonta Davis, first you don't piss off HE Alalshikh, haven't he noticed that the big fights are happening in Saudi and obviously, he could have been part of it as there are big money flowing in every direction, Eddie Hearn is very lucky that he is very close to the Saudi right now and see that he is thriving with it.

Oscar dela Hoya is really trying to get his hands on the oil money as well. But it seems that HE Alalshikh is also not keen on Oscar.

So this a wrong promotional move from Gervonta and I don't think that he can have a fight in ME and so second, he is missing on that huge paycheck.

Maybe he is satisfied with fighting in the USA. Most of the biggest fighter happened in the US, this Saudi fight is quite new and probably the trend for big fights happening there but thee's always a place in the US to make some big money. Davis could have say no, but being dispectful although in an indirect way, it's not a good way to deal with Alalshikh since we never know what could come in the future.

Davis probably just trying to be himself, bad at marketing but made a decent PPV on his fight with Ryan Garcia, that might be his biggest paycheck in his career if he doesn't behave well. But that's his life, so let him handle that.

But as you have said, Saudi is new but they keep on trending. And there are a US promoter that can milk the oil money there, and it was only Bob Arum for now. Oscar is trying to break into the picture as have said, but I think he says something negative about having fight in the Middle East but now instantly regretting it.

https://www.boxingscene.com/de-la-hoya-appeals-turki-alalshikh-i-make-you-proud--181008

And obviously, Floyd is also making fights in their with his exhibitions and making cool and easy millions.

Tank and PBC should think about it, there are huge money there and he should be at least marketable as their goal is to take advantage while he was still very young.

Saudi money is paying more than the US fights which is why there's a flock of fighters that are willing to fight there. But Alalshikh from now on wanted the real fights, not the cherry-picking and the casual type of fights. Tank obviously can earn more in Saudi but so far he remains a coward still unwilling to fight champions at 135 and 140. So Davis is not qualified to fight in Saudi which is why Alalshikh made fun of him by saying he will send a pair of gloves instead of raris. Tank's not getting younger too. But maybe he is contented cherry picking in the US, luckily for him and PBC, they have a lot of casual loyalist fans.

So far Matchroom, Top Rank and its partner in the UK Queensberry are in making big fights in Saudi. I expect Oscar De La Hoya's GBP to offer its fighters as well. A scheduled Matchroom vs Queensberry fighters event is also expected and it's going to be big.

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Quote from: mirakal on February 05, 2024, 12:47:28 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on February 04, 2024, 11:14:22 PM

Quote from: Getmon on February 04, 2024, 12:20:51 AM

And His Highness, Turki Alalshikh has a ruthless reaction to the Ferrari demands of Gervonta Davis. Alalshikh stated that he would send only two gloves. That implies Alalshikh is not accepting the delayings numerous boxers are doing whatever it takes to not face the best.
https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2024/02/04/65bef0d9e2704eab188b4579.html

That is very bad for Gervonta Davis, first you don't piss off HE Alalshikh, haven't he noticed that the big fights are happening in Saudi and obviously, he could have been part of it as there are big money flowing in every direction, Eddie Hearn is very lucky that he is very close to the Saudi right now and see that he is thriving with it.

Oscar dela Hoya is really trying to get his hands on the oil money as well. But it seems that HE Alalshikh is also not keen on Oscar.

So this a wrong promotional move from Gervonta and I don't think that he can have a fight in ME and so second, he is missing on that huge paycheck.

Maybe he is satisfied with fighting in the USA. Most of the biggest fighter happened in the US, this Saudi fight is quite new and probably the trend for big fights happening there but thee's always a place in the US to make some big money. Davis could have say no, but being dispectful although in an indirect way, it's not a good way to deal with Alalshikh since we never know what could come in the future.

Davis probably just trying to be himself, bad at marketing but made a decent PPV on his fight with Ryan Garcia, that might be his biggest paycheck in his career if he doesn't behave well. But that's his life, so let him handle that.

But as you have said, Saudi is new but they keep on trending. And there are a US promoter that can milk the oil money there, and it was only Bob Arum for now. Oscar is trying to break into the picture as have said, but I think he says something negative about having fight in the Middle East but now instantly regretting it.

https://www.boxingscene.com/de-la-hoya-appeals-turki-alalshikh-i-make-you-proud--181008

And obviously, Floyd is also making fights in their with his exhibitions and making cool and easy millions.

Tank and PBC should think about it, there are huge money there and he should be at least marketable as their goal is to take advantage while he was still very young.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on February 05, 2024, 11:07:33 PM

^^ There are a lot of worthy fights on 140 lbs in my opinion.

And I think this is good as well, maybe we will see champions vs champions later, but Lopez is defending his belt against a tough opponent. Although Ortiz lost to Loma, it was a great fight and he give everything he can against Loma that time and if not for the experience of Loma in the late rounds, he could have pulled a upset in that fight.

And we have seen that Ortiz is too big at 135 lbs, and so a move to 140 lbs might do good him for him as he will have a crack at the belt that Teo has.

Yes, this is a decent fight already for Teofimo since Ortiz showed how good he is against Loma. And we knew that Teofimo only won a very close decision against an injured Loma. Although I think Teofimo has matured a lot. I think Teofimo was only 22 years old when he fought Loma.

I don't know if you read one observation though that after a great performance of Teo, next his fight is like so-so performance for him. Not sure if this is true or not, but he really looks remarkable against the lineal champion in Taylor. But maybe here, who knows, he says he retired, and then un-retired, Lol, what an antics.

And Teo did win but in another controversial fight. Not saying Teo underperformed though because Ortiz was a hell of a slick fighter. But I also believed Teo won the fight because he was the aggressor while he was already the defending champion. Ortiz is a high-level fighter which is why Loma also had difficulty winning but at least it was clear unlike Teo's.

After becoming a hardcore follower of this sport since my high school days, I am not buying into any retirement antics. The same with sleeping disorder specialist, Shakur Stevenson. Cheesy

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The other top fighters at 140 seem to have difficulty getting title shorts. Arnold Barboza is now 32. His career was fucked up badly by Top Rank. He's probably not marketable and is a high risk. No wonder Top Rank only gave him one fight per year since 2021. He's supposed to become mandatory to Taylor or Teofimo. The same with former 2-belt champion Jose Ramirez who only lost a close decision to Taylor. Ramirez only fought twice since then. But maybe their careers get resurrected as they seem to be joining Golden Boy Promotions. Or their inactivity is about to get exploited by the likes of Ryan Garcia.

Top Rank has this uncanny ability though to read their boxers and how their careers can go. And so if they see that they are not marketable, they will surely dump them. Or if those boxers trying to get back or wanted to get out of their contract, then they file cases and their career are going to be on a hold. Nevertheless Ramirez going to GBP might be a blessing for Ryan Garcia as he will have a good test if they fight and it's going to be all in-house money for Oscar, and obviously easy to set up.

Yeah. But I guess all of these promoters are doing the same to their fighters who aren't that marketable. Just like PBC is not making a unification fight between its same division champions Subriel Matias and Rolly Romero. Probably because Romero is a low-level fighter who was gifted with a belt but is very popular. While Matias is a very dangerous fighter but because he is not that marketable, there is zero chance that PBC will feed Romero.

And Ryan is fighting Haney. I won't be surprised if Ryan will find ways to back out soon. What was he thinking? Cheesy

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on February 05, 2024, 11:07:33 PM

^^ There are a lot of worthy fights on 140 lbs in my opinion.

And I think this is good as well, maybe we will see champions vs champions later, but Lopez is defending his belt against a tough opponent. Although Ortiz lost to Loma, it was a great fight and he give everything he can against Loma that time and if not for the experience of Loma in the late rounds, he could have pulled a upset in that fight.

And we have seen that Ortiz is too big at 135 lbs, and so a move to 140 lbs might do good him for him as he will have a crack at the belt that Teo has.

Agreed and there are boxers in the lightweight division who can move to super lightweight and also the same for super lightweight who can move down to lightweight division. I speculate that if Tank Davis unifies the lightweight division he might challege all champions in the super lightweight divisions and also unify it. This is if Devin Haney has not yet done it hehehe. Also Shakur can also move up to super lightweight to challenge Teo or Haney. We might also see Shakur vs. Tank in super lightweight, I reckon.

Super lightweight might not be an easy division for Tank to conquer. Not saying that he can't but there could be boxers like Teo Lopez and Devin Haney that can give him problems. But we don't know it until Tank calls out those fighter or stay in his comfort zone at 135 lbs and fight Shakur for a super fight this year. Shakur though if I'm not mistaken says that he is quitting, but I don't call that bluff.

Maybe he is just waiting for the right fighting to come in, perhaps the winner of Kambosos vs Loma.

Might easier to make as they are all in house with Bob Arum's Top Rank. And for sure, this could be very well the plan by uncle Bob.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 09, 2024, 02:50:40 AM

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on February 05, 2024, 11:07:33 PM

^^ There are a lot of worthy fights on 140 lbs in my opinion.

And I think this is good as well, maybe we will see champions vs champions later, but Lopez is defending his belt against a tough opponent. Although Ortiz lost to Loma, it was a great fight and he give everything he can against Loma that time and if not for the experience of Loma in the late rounds, he could have pulled a upset in that fight.

And we have seen that Ortiz is too big at 135 lbs, and so a move to 140 lbs might do good him for him as he will have a crack at the belt that Teo has.

Agreed and there are boxers in the lightweight division who can move to super lightweight and also the same for super lightweight who can move down to lightweight division. I speculate that if Tank Davis unifies the lightweight division he might challege all champions in the super lightweight divisions and also unify it. This is if Devin Haney has not yet done it hehehe. Also Shakur can also move up to super lightweight to challenge Teo or Haney. We might also see Shakur vs. Tank in super lightweight, I reckon.

If I'm the handler of Tank, I will like for him to clean up the division, there are a lot of worthy opponents like Shakur who has been barking on him, and the Loma vs Kambosos for the vacant IBF title. So need for Tank to rush to 140 lbs. But the problem is that Tank is being protected by all cost and they doesn't want him to lose that 0. Although I would agree when Teo Says that this is no longer Floyd's era, that 0 is no longer the norm. As a fighter you will have to fight the best to be the best. So that's what Tank need to do here, fight the best in Shakur or even Loma and the upcoming Keyshawn Davis who has a impressive win tonight.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on February 05, 2024, 11:07:33 PM

^^ There are a lot of worthy fights on 140 lbs in my opinion.

And I think this is good as well, maybe we will see champions vs champions later, but Lopez is defending his belt against a tough opponent. Although Ortiz lost to Loma, it was a great fight and he give everything he can against Loma that time and if not for the experience of Loma in the late rounds, he could have pulled a upset in that fight.

And we have seen that Ortiz is too big at 135 lbs, and so a move to 140 lbs might do good him for him as he will have a crack at the belt that Teo has.

Agreed and there are boxers in the lightweight division who can move to super lightweight and also the same for super lightweight who can move down to lightweight division. I speculate that if Tank Davis unifies the lightweight division he might challege all champions in the super lightweight divisions and also unify it. This is if Devin Haney has not yet done it hehehe. Also Shakur can also move up to super lightweight to challenge Teo or Haney. We might also see Shakur vs. Tank in super lightweight, I reckon.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on February 05, 2024, 11:07:33 PM

^^ There are a lot of worthy fights on 140 lbs in my opinion.

And I think this is good as well, maybe we will see champions vs champions later, but Lopez is defending his belt against a tough opponent. Although Ortiz lost to Loma, it was a great fight and he give everything he can against Loma that time and if not for the experience of Loma in the late rounds, he could have pulled a upset in that fight.

And we have seen that Ortiz is too big at 135 lbs, and so a move to 140 lbs might do good him for him as he will have a crack at the belt that Teo has.

Yes, this is a decent fight already for Teofimo since Ortiz showed how good he is against Loma. And we knew that Teofimo only won a very close decision against an injured Loma. Although I think Teofimo has matured a lot. I think Teofimo was only 22 years old when he fought Loma.

I don't know if you read one observation though that after a great performance of Teo, next his fight is like so-so performance for him. Not sure if this is true or not, but he really looks remarkable against the lineal champion in Taylor. But maybe here, who knows, he says he retired, and then un-retired, Lol, what an antics.

Quote from: inthelongrun on February 06, 2024, 02:42:58 AM

The other top fighters at 140 seem to have difficulty getting title shorts. Arnold Barboza is now 32. His career was fucked up badly by Top Rank. He's probably not marketable and is a high risk. No wonder Top Rank only gave him one fight per year since 2021. He's supposed to become mandatory to Taylor or Teofimo. The same with former 2-belt champion Jose Ramirez who only lost a close decision to Taylor. Ramirez only fought twice since then. But maybe their careers get resurrected as they seem to be joining Golden Boy Promotions. Or their inactivity is about to get exploited by the likes of Ryan Garcia.

Top Rank has this uncanny ability though to read their boxers and how their careers can go. And so if they see that they are not marketable, they will surely dump them. Or if those boxers trying to get back or wanted to get out of their contract, then they file cases and their career are going to be on a hold. Nevertheless Ramirez going to GBP might be a blessing for Ryan Garcia as he will have a good test if they fight and it's going to be all in-house money for Oscar, and obviously easy to set up.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on February 05, 2024, 11:07:33 PM

^^ There are a lot of worthy fights on 140 lbs in my opinion.

And I think this is good as well, maybe we will see champions vs champions later, but Lopez is defending his belt against a tough opponent. Although Ortiz lost to Loma, it was a great fight and he give everything he can against Loma that time and if not for the experience of Loma in the late rounds, he could have pulled a upset in that fight.

And we have seen that Ortiz is too big at 135 lbs, and so a move to 140 lbs might do good him for him as he will have a crack at the belt that Teo has.

Yes, this is a decent fight already for Teofimo since Ortiz showed how good he is against Loma. And we knew that Teofimo only won a very close decision against an injured Loma. Although I think Teofimo has matured a lot. I think Teofimo was only 22 years old when he fought Loma.

The other top fighters at 140 seem to have difficulty getting title shorts. Arnold Barboza is now 32. His career was fucked up badly by Top Rank. He's probably not marketable and is a high risk. No wonder Top Rank only gave him one fight per year since 2021. He's supposed to become mandatory to Taylor or Teofimo. The same with former 2-belt champion Jose Ramirez who only lost a close decision to Taylor. Ramirez only fought twice since then. But maybe their careers get resurrected as they seem to be joining Golden Boy Promotions. Or their inactivity is about to get exploited by the likes of Ryan Garcia.

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^^ There are a lot of worthy fights on 140 lbs in my opinion.

And I think this is good as well, maybe we will see champions vs champions later, but Lopez is defending his belt against a tough opponent. Although Ortiz lost to Loma, it was a great fight and he give everything he can against Loma that time and if not for the experience of Loma in the late rounds, he could have pulled a upset in that fight.

And we have seen that Ortiz is too big at 135 lbs, and so a move to 140 lbs might do good him for him as he will have a crack at the belt that Teo has.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on February 03, 2024, 04:30:58 AM

!!! Breaking news !!!

Fury Vs Usyk won't happen due to Tyson's injury (big cut to the right eye).
He got caught by an accidental elbow during the sparring, he was wearing a head-guard, but that didn't help.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/68187055

Michael Bisping's commentary, including the footage of unfortunate sparring:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBay8997Ifs&t

The fight will likely get postponed, although there are speculations of the replacement fight, possibly against Filip Hrgovic (17-0).

I am very disappoint.

Quote from: YuginKadoya on February 05, 2024, 12:19:06 PM

Here is an event that will surely give us great entertainment this fight is between Teofimo Lopez and Jamaine Ortiz and it is a fight for the WBO World Super Lightweight Title it will be a good fight to watch here is the full display of the event,

Lopez vs. Ortiz

I reckon this fight certainly is very worthy to have a thread created. This is a good fight. However, I am also disappointed that Teofimo Lopez vs. Subriel Matias was not organized. It would have been a unification of IBF and WBO championships.

On Teo vs Ortiz, it is the first time for Ortiz to fight in super lightweight. Teo might win by knockout on the 10-12 rounds. If you compare them, Teo is stronger, faster and the bigger puncher.

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The long-awaited Dmitry Bivol Vs Artur Beterbiev fight was announced two days ago and will happen on Saturday 1st June.
The place - you guessed it, Saudi Arabia. They'll be fighting for the undisputed light heavyweight championship. It doesn't get much better than this. Bivol is ranked 1st in the global ranking and Beterbiev is 2nd.
Both are undefeated, with 22 and 20 wins respectively. Beterbiew has an unbelievable 100% KO rate (Bivol 50%). It will be a massive challenge for Dmitrii, but my money will be on him.

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