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Quote from: Jating on November 12, 2023, 05:04:47 PM

Yeah, he really did underestimate Ngannou, regardless of what Fury says after the fight, we all know that it is not true. He said that the did train hard, but it was obvious that he was out of shape and there's no strategy in his corner. They just want to survived in this fight and this is exactly why the score is very close and very controversial. So this could be a blessing for Usyk as he can continue to train but not overextend to the point that he will overtrain.

So February 2024 might be just right for Usyk and all the pressure now is on the shoulder of Fury as this is the first time that we have seen him vulnerable in a fight and seemingly doesn't want to engage. And it might carry this kind of mental state when he fought Usyk this February.

I really like Oleksandr Usyk here than what Tyson Fury was showing in his fight against Francis Ngannou actually I bet for Ngannou on this one, but I lost the bet and I had really risked this one as I knew that Tyson Fury could win here but I never really expected this to happen as for sure Francis Ngannou have surely outperform Tyson Fury and could win this one fight, but for sure it was the controversial decision of the judge that got Tyson Fury out on having a lost to an MMA fighter and that is Francis Ngannou,

Quote from: danherbias07 on November 13, 2023, 12:04:50 PM

And he needs to get into a fight because he is getting older. I know that this is his desire, to be a boxer but when he came in he ain't young, not in his prime, and he won't be able to do much if he waits longer. At 37 years old, this is where most sports athletes are near their retirement because they can feel the burden of aging.
Whoever is promoting him, they need to find him a fight be it on the low ranks of the heavyweight or someone in the UFC who is ready to fight in a boxing ring.
But this is somehow surprising.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/67303165
Francis Ngannou fight an option for Anthony Joshua, says Eddie Hearn

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"As we start to plan AJ's next six to 12 months we just want to know if that is an option," Hearn told the BBC.

"We could have that event in Saudi Arabia or other countries in the Middle East. Africa sounds incredible - can they come up with the money to do it? I don't know.

"All of a sudden that fight between two giants, they're carved out of stone, it becomes a massive fight. We're definitely willing to consider it."

UFC Ngannou fans plus Joshua boxing fans, I believe this could also become a big one just like the Tyson Fury fight. I mean, most eyes in heavyweight boxing are in Ngannou now because they want to see more of him. I bet even the boxing fans are also looking forward to watching him in the boxing ring once more.

Wilder is also interested in the same crossover fight. This is somehow exciting, and I think they should hurry and make this happen while it's still hot. They don't want the hype slowing down or it will be a problem selling tickets and PPV.

For sure Francis Ngannou has shown that he deserves to fight again that is why a promoter like Eddie Hearn has another big fight for Francis Ngannou for they are planning on who Francis Ngannou could fight any boxer for sure that wants an exhibition fight against him,

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Quote from: Questat on November 13, 2023, 10:15:16 AM

Does appearing weak imply that he didn't take the fight seriously? While the bout against Ngannou may not have been a championship fight, it was an official one. Losing would mean a blemish on Fury's record. Therefore, let's not assume he didn't train hard for Ngannou; that would be disrespectful to a UFC professional transitioning to boxing who came close to defeating Fury. We need to move past that and see how Fury matches up against Usyk. Personally, I still think Fury would come out on top, and I believe the public shares the same sentiment.

Wow, I didn't know that fight was official, I was sure it was organised as an exhibition.
Anyhow, that's the beauty of all fight sports, if often doesn't go the way everyone expects. When you have two strong guys, both with 2 hands and both knowing how to throw a punch - anything can happen. It actually can end up pretty well for Fury. After the fight with Usyk, he could fight Francis again, maybe for even bigger purse. And if he wins decisively, no one will even remember the first fight.
Lets face it, apart from Usyk, there aren't too many exciting names in heavyweight boxing at the moment, so rematch with Francis makes sense. It won't be for the belt though.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on November 12, 2023, 02:21:29 PM

For me, I think Francis Ngannou will still fight whoever boxer that wants to fight him and he knows that it is a big money to fight in the boxing ring so for sure he will keep on fighting boxers for sure, while PFL will be readying him to fight

And he needs to get into a fight because he is getting older. I know that this is his desire, to be a boxer but when he came in he ain't young, not in his prime, and he won't be able to do much if he waits longer. At 37 years old, this is where most sports athletes are near their retirement because they can feel the burden of aging.
Whoever is promoting him, they need to find him a fight be it on the low ranks of the heavyweight or someone in the UFC who is ready to fight in a boxing ring.
But this is somehow surprising.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/67303165
Francis Ngannou fight an option for Anthony Joshua, says Eddie Hearn

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"As we start to plan AJ's next six to 12 months we just want to know if that is an option," Hearn told the BBC.

"We could have that event in Saudi Arabia or other countries in the Middle East. Africa sounds incredible - can they come up with the money to do it? I don't know.

"All of a sudden that fight between two giants, they're carved out of stone, it becomes a massive fight. We're definitely willing to consider it."

UFC Ngannou fans plus Joshua boxing fans, I believe this could also become a big one just like the Tyson Fury fight. I mean, most eyes in heavyweight boxing are in Ngannou now because they want to see more of him. I bet even the boxing fans are also looking forward to watching him in the boxing ring once more.

Wilder is also interested in the same crossover fight. This is somehow exciting, and I think they should hurry and make this happen while it's still hot. They don't want the hype slowing down or it will be a problem selling tickets and PPV.

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Quote from: Jating on November 13, 2023, 08:16:50 AM

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@Jating. However, there is a skeptical way of thinking about this. What if Tyson Fury only made it appear that he was weak vs. Francis Ngannou? It might also be that Tyson Fury did not want to overtrain and have a higher risk of injury because he wants to prepare for the heavyweight championship unification vs. Usyk. The Ukrainian should not make the mistake of reducing his training schedule.

If you look at Fury's history, his past fights, you will not see that he wanted to appear weak, he is already assure of a win in the first fight against Wilder, until that last round wherein he got knock down and it was just a miracle that he was able to get up and finished the fight and then it ends in a controversial draw. In the second fight, he didn't look weak, and on the contrary he is the more aggressive between the two.

So we should throw that out of the window because I don't think that any fighter wanted to appear weak as his opponent will go and try to get your head off and we was almost upset by Francis. Definitely, Usyk said that he won't made that mistake and underestimate Fury because he look very different against Ngannou.

Does appearing weak imply that he didn't take the fight seriously? While the bout against Ngannou may not have been a championship fight, it was an official one. Losing would mean a blemish on Fury's record. Therefore, let's not assume he didn't train hard for Ngannou; that would be disrespectful to a UFC professional transitioning to boxing who came close to defeating Fury. We need to move past that and see how Fury matches up against Usyk. Personally, I still think Fury would come out on top, and I believe the public shares the same sentiment.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on November 13, 2023, 12:45:59 AM

@Jating. However, there is a skeptical way of thinking about this. What if Tyson Fury only made it appear that he was weak vs. Francis Ngannou? It might also be that Tyson Fury did not want to overtrain and have a higher risk of injury because he wants to prepare for the heavyweight championship unification vs. Usyk. The Ukrainian should not make the mistake of reducing his training schedule.

If you look at Fury's history, his past fights, you will not see that he wanted to appear weak, he is already assure of a win in the first fight against Wilder, until that last round wherein he got knock down and it was just a miracle that he was able to get up and finished the fight and then it ends in a controversial draw. In the second fight, he didn't look weak, and on the contrary he is the more aggressive between the two.

So we should throw that out of the window because I don't think that any fighter wanted to appear weak as his opponent will go and try to get your head off and we was almost upset by Francis. Definitely, Usyk said that he won't made that mistake and underestimate Fury because he look very different against Ngannou.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on November 13, 2023, 12:45:59 AM

@Jating. However, there is a skeptical way of thinking about this. What if Tyson Fury only made it appear that he was weak vs. Francis Ngannou? It might also be that Tyson Fury did not want to overtrain and have a higher risk of injury because he wants to prepare for the heavyweight championship unification vs. Usyk. The Ukrainian should not make the mistake of reducing his training schedule.

And that's valid, we can see also from that angle but then what we witness give us all the opinions and from what we see Fury is weak and Ngannou got this one from him, though maybe it will be an opinion base and from those who fully understand how judges score the fight, and it's already over and Fury will focus now with his next possible fight, while Ngannou will go on and also prepare for whatever the next stage of his carreer.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on November 13, 2023, 12:45:59 AM

@Jating. However, there is a skeptical way of thinking about this. What if Tyson Fury only made it appear that he was weak vs. Francis Ngannou? It might also be that Tyson Fury did not want to overtrain and have a higher risk of injury because he wants to prepare for the heavyweight championship unification vs. Usyk. The Ukrainian should not make the mistake of reducing his training schedule.

But if you look at Fury fighting style and preparation in facing Ngannou, it is really serious and the fight is quite an important fight for Fury, if he really loses to Ngannou it will be very embarrassing and it will even be bad day for Fury because he has the nickname of an invincible monster.
Moreover, the fight for the heavyweight championship between Fury and Usyk had to be postponed because of the fight between Fury vs Ngannou, so it can be concluded that both of them are also very important fights.
Even though this fight caused lot of controversy because Ngannou should have won, we were quite amazed by what Ngannou showed in his first debut against heavyweight champion Tyson Fury.

But there is something interesting where Usyk tweeted on Instagram that he didn't want Fury to get injured when fighting Ngannou because he needed Fury for his fight schedule.

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@Jating. However, there is a skeptical way of thinking about this. What if Tyson Fury only made it appear that he was weak vs. Francis Ngannou? It might also be that Tyson Fury did not want to overtrain and have a higher risk of injury because he wants to prepare for the heavyweight championship unification vs. Usyk. The Ukrainian should not make the mistake of reducing his training schedule.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on November 12, 2023, 02:21:29 PM

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Francis Ngannou though will have to wait on who he is going to face next.

Time will come but probably not happening this year, he made a good impression, sure the fans will watch his fight and promoters would not have a problem promoting the fight.

Many including myself want another boxing match for Francis Ngannou for sure after that incredible showcase that he had against Tyson Fury that is, that is why I would like Francis Ngannou to fight Tyson Fury again or maybe even other heavyweight boxers like Deontay Wilder, Anthony Joshua, or maybe Oleksandr Usyk will do

For me, I think Francis Ngannou will still fight whoever boxer that wants to fight him and he knows that it is a big money to fight in the boxing ring so for sure he will keep on fighting boxers for sure, while PFL will be readying him to fight

Quote from: Kemarit on November 12, 2023, 05:24:16 AM

That might be the case as it is already reported that it will be a double header fight,

- Fury vs Usyk
- Joshua vs Wilder

Bust since Fury is not going to be physically available on December it changes the picture of the undercard as well. There were reports that Wilder wanted to go to England to chase Joshua, not sure if he did continue with this plan. Seems he didn't go though as this reports resurfaces that they are going to fight a different opponent this December as tune up fight. Hopefully they will be ready in February and should come out unscathed against Otto Wallin and Joseph Parker.

Well, the fight between Tyson Fury VS Oleksandr Usyk was called off for the time being because Tyson Fury was in bad shape because of his fight against Francis Ngannou sure Tyson Fury didn't expect that he would have a hard time against Francis Ngannou sure accepting the December fight against Oleksandr Usyk because he was underestimating Ngannou which is his bad take because he got an unexpected result, well Tyson Fury's fight was move to an unannounced date in February 2024 for the Unification of WBA belt,

Yeah, he really did underestimate Ngannou, regardless of what Fury says after the fight, we all know that it is not true. He said that the did train hard, but it was obvious that he was out of shape and there's no strategy in his corner. They just want to survived in this fight and this is exactly why the score is very close and very controversial. So this could be a blessing for Usyk as he can continue to train but not overextend to the point that he will overtrain.

So February 2024 might be just right for Usyk and all the pressure now is on the shoulder of Fury as this is the first time that we have seen him vulnerable in a fight and seemingly doesn't want to engage. And it might carry this kind of mental state when he fought Usyk this February.

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Quote from: mirakal on November 12, 2023, 05:18:08 AM

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Francis Ngannou though will have to wait on who he is going to face next.

Time will come but probably not happening this year, he made a good impression, sure the fans will watch his fight and promoters would not have a problem promoting the fight.

Many including myself want another boxing match for Francis Ngannou for sure after that incredible showcase that he had against Tyson Fury that is, that is why I would like Francis Ngannou to fight Tyson Fury again or maybe even other heavyweight boxers like Deontay Wilder, Anthony Joshua, or maybe Oleksandr Usyk will do

For me, I think Francis Ngannou will still fight whoever boxer that wants to fight him and he knows that it is a big money to fight in the boxing ring so for sure he will keep on fighting boxers for sure, while PFL will be readying him to fight

Quote from: Kemarit on November 12, 2023, 05:24:16 AM

That might be the case as it is already reported that it will be a double header fight,

- Fury vs Usyk
- Joshua vs Wilder

Bust since Fury is not going to be physically available on December it changes the picture of the undercard as well. There were reports that Wilder wanted to go to England to chase Joshua, not sure if he did continue with this plan. Seems he didn't go though as this reports resurfaces that they are going to fight a different opponent this December as tune up fight. Hopefully they will be ready in February and should come out unscathed against Otto Wallin and Joseph Parker.

Well, the fight between Tyson Fury VS Oleksandr Usyk was called off for the time being because Tyson Fury was in bad shape because of his fight against Francis Ngannou sure Tyson Fury didn't expect that he would have a hard time against Francis Ngannou sure accepting the December fight against Oleksandr Usyk because he was underestimating Ngannou which is his bad take because he got an unexpected result, well Tyson Fury's fight was move to an unannounced date in February 2024 for the Unification of WBA belt,

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Quote from: Kemarit on November 12, 2023, 05:24:16 AM

That might be the case as it is already reported that it will be a double header fight,

- Fury vs Usyk
- Joshua vs Wilder

Bust since Fury is not going to be physically available on December it changes the picture of the undercard as well. There were reports that Wilder wanted to go to England to chase Joshua, not sure if he did continue with this plan. Seems he didn't go though as this reports resurfaces that they are going to fight a different opponent this December as tune up fight. Hopefully they will be ready in February and should come out unscathed against Otto Wallin and Joseph Parker.

Joshua vs. Wilder is an enticing matchup, but being on the undercard of Fury vs. Usyk would benefit them more. Now, they might just be adding some wins to their records, and people will continue to talk about them. Of course, they should win their respective fights for this significant matchup to happen.

Although Fury vs. Usyk is the main event, these two fighters were once champions, so people will also be interested in watching them.

Some big fights lack interesting undercard fights, but this one is a sure double-header.

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Quote from: mirakal on November 12, 2023, 05:18:08 AM

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on November 11, 2023, 07:36:00 PM

There is news of Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder fighting in Saudi Arabia on December 23. They won't be facing each other but instead Joshua would fight Otto Wallin and Wilder would fight Joseph Parker.

These are very good fights. Otto Wallin was one of Fury's toughest opponents and has no losses other than that fight. Joseph Parker is a former world champion who is still considered a top contender and he looked impressive on the Fury-Ngannou undercard.

https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-wallin-wilder-parker-heavyweight-double-explored-december-23-part-riyadh-season--179177

Oh, I thought that this two is going to face in Saudi, perhaps there is a chance because Fury vs Usyk is going to be pushed through as well. Yeah, this could be just a tune up fight for this two.

Nevertheless, on this two, Joshua is somewhat very questionable if he still has it since he lost twice and as you have said, Otto Wallin could be a big test for Joshua here. Of course we wanted them to win their fight so that it will be blockbuster HW in Saudi Arabia next year and it will create a lot of money for this boxers.

I thought they would be the undercard for the Fury vs. Usyk fight, but since that's not happening this year, Wilder and AJ probably chose to fight other opponents. It could be a tune-up fight so they'll be prepared once the schedule for the unification fight is fixed. That's good for them; it keeps them active and in full shape for what could potentially be the biggest fight in Saudi Arabia.

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Francis Ngannou though will have to wait on who he is going to face next.

Time will come but probably not happening this year, he made a good impression, sure the fans will watch his fight and promoters would not have a problem promoting the fight.

That might be the case as it is already reported that it will be a double header fight,

- Fury vs Usyk
- Joshua vs Wilder

Bust since Fury is not going to be physically available on December it changes the picture of the undercard as well. There were reports that Wilder wanted to go to England to chase Joshua, not sure if he did continue with this plan. Seems he didn't go though as this reports resurfaces that they are going to fight a different opponent this December as tune up fight. Hopefully they will be ready in February and should come out unscathed against Otto Wallin and Joseph Parker.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on November 11, 2023, 07:36:00 PM

There is news of Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder fighting in Saudi Arabia on December 23. They won't be facing each other but instead Joshua would fight Otto Wallin and Wilder would fight Joseph Parker.

These are very good fights. Otto Wallin was one of Fury's toughest opponents and has no losses other than that fight. Joseph Parker is a former world champion who is still considered a top contender and he looked impressive on the Fury-Ngannou undercard.

https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-wallin-wilder-parker-heavyweight-double-explored-december-23-part-riyadh-season--179177

Oh, I thought that this two is going to face in Saudi, perhaps there is a chance because Fury vs Usyk is going to be pushed through as well. Yeah, this could be just a tune up fight for this two.

Nevertheless, on this two, Joshua is somewhat very questionable if he still has it since he lost twice and as you have said, Otto Wallin could be a big test for Joshua here. Of course we wanted them to win their fight so that it will be blockbuster HW in Saudi Arabia next year and it will create a lot of money for this boxers.

I thought they would be the undercard for the Fury vs. Usyk fight, but since that's not happening this year, Wilder and AJ probably chose to fight other opponents. It could be a tune-up fight so they'll be prepared once the schedule for the unification fight is fixed. That's good for them; it keeps them active and in full shape for what could potentially be the biggest fight in Saudi Arabia.

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Francis Ngannou though will have to wait on who he is going to face next.

Time will come but probably not happening this year, he made a good impression, sure the fans will watch his fight and promoters would not have a problem promoting the fight.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on November 11, 2023, 07:36:00 PM

There is news of Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder fighting in Saudi Arabia on December 23. They won't be facing each other but instead Joshua would fight Otto Wallin and Wilder would fight Joseph Parker.

These are very good fights. Otto Wallin was one of Fury's toughest opponents and has no losses other than that fight. Joseph Parker is a former world champion who is still considered a top contender and he looked impressive on the Fury-Ngannou undercard.

https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-wallin-wilder-parker-heavyweight-double-explored-december-23-part-riyadh-season--179177

Oh, I thought that this two is going to face in Saudi, perhaps there is a chance because Fury vs Usyk is going to be pushed through as well. Yeah, this could be just a tune up fight for this two.

Nevertheless, on this two, Joshua is somewhat very questionable if he still has it since he lost twice and as you have said, Otto Wallin could be a big test for Joshua here. Of course we wanted them to win their fight so that it will be blockbuster HW in Saudi Arabia next year and it will create a lot of money for this boxers.

Francis Ngannou though will have to wait on who he is going to face next.

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There is news of Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder fighting in Saudi Arabia on December 23. They won't be facing each other but instead Joshua would fight Otto Wallin and Wilder would fight Joseph Parker.

These are very good fights. Otto Wallin was one of Fury's toughest opponents and has no losses other than that fight. Joseph Parker is a former world champion who is still considered a top contender and he looked impressive on the Fury-Ngannou undercard.

https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-wallin-wilder-parker-heavyweight-double-explored-december-23-part-riyadh-season--179177

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^^ It doesn't matter. Crawford has made it already, unifying all the belts and if the IBF will want to stripped him then by all means they can obviously do it and put their interim champion and elevate him as a full champion. That has been the practice already, although it doesn't take weight as he hasn't fought the regular champion in Crawford and so there is still a ? on Ennis.

On the other hand, while waiting for Crawford vs Spence match as he is surely wanted to challenge the winner, he might do and defend his belt first. But as I have check the rankings, IBF rated boxers at this division is not well known.

#1 and #2 are not rated, not sure why it is like that, and then

#3 Cody Crowley
#4 Ekow Essuman
#5 Jamal James
#6 Errol Spence

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IBF stripped Terrence "Bud" Crawford of his belt because he failed to defend it or wasn't able to fight their interim champion in Jarrod Ennis.

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“On August 25,the IBF sent a letter to TBC Promotions directing Terence Crawford to begin negotiations with interim Champion Jaron Ennis,” an spokesperson informed BoxingScene.com. “Negotiations were to be concluded by September 24.

“On September 22, the IBF received an email from Harrison Whitman representing Crawford indicating that the agreement for the Spence v. Crawford bout contains an immediate rematch provision which Errol Spence has exercised. As such, Terrence Crawford is unable to engage in negotiations with Jaron Ennis.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/terence-crawford-stripped-ibf-belt-jaron-ennis-elevated-full-titlist--179126

Obviously, Crawford already said in public that he is not interested on Ennis as of this time. And since Spence has activated the rematch clause, then that is the fight that Crawford wanted obviously as there is huge money on that fight.

Nevertheless, Ennis can still fight Crawford once he is done fighting (and winning in the rematch) against Spence.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on November 08, 2023, 07:46:44 AM

Shakur Stevenson has something to say after his fans are unhappy with him turning down the fight against Devin Haney.

Shakur Stevenson On Edwin De Los Santos Fight: "I'm Going To Surprise A Lot Of People"
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/11/shakur-stevenson-on-edwin-de-los-santos-fight-im-going-to-surprise-a-lot-of-people/

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Shakur Stevenson says fans are in for a “surprise” when they see him in his fight against Edwin De Los Santos next week in their twelve round headliner on ESPN at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas.

12 rounds. November 16th.

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“I don’t know how the fight is going to go. I think I’m going to surprise a lot of people. That’s what I’ve been doing my whole career. On fight night, I’ll be doing what I’ve been consistently doing, and that’s been dominating.”

I don't doubt him and I bet his fans don't too, it's him who doubted himself after he rejected that chance against Devin Haney and used the 75/25 share to avoid the fight.
He can box, that's for sure and his record tells it. 20 wins, 10 knockouts. That's a great number and I think he can really surprise a lot of people or they won't be surprised because they actually believe he can.
But, there are times that a boxer has to take risks if he wants to be on the top and he was given that opportunity but he didn't grab it.
Well, he is young, and there's still a chance, this is his prime but next time he should not look at the money but the goal should be the championship belt.

And that is why there are boxing fans saying that he is one of the most avoided fighters right now in his division. His fans though should understand where he is coming from as far as the Haney fight goes. Shakur says that the Haney's are hiding on the fact that they don't want any of him by low balling Shakur, like 75/25 or 80/20 as other might say.

And then supposedly Frank Martin, another up and coming good fighter at 135 lbs, agreed in principle but then when the contract is offer, his team suddenly turn it down.

So he has to settle with Edwin De Los Santos here. It's a good test for Shakur, but I doubt that Edwin will last against Shakur in this fight. Could be another technical fight and we will see Shakur giving us another great performance.

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Shakur Stevenson has something to say after his fans are unhappy with him turning down the fight against Devin Haney.

Shakur Stevenson On Edwin De Los Santos Fight: "I'm Going To Surprise A Lot Of People"
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/11/shakur-stevenson-on-edwin-de-los-santos-fight-im-going-to-surprise-a-lot-of-people/

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Shakur Stevenson says fans are in for a “surprise” when they see him in his fight against Edwin De Los Santos next week in their twelve round headliner on ESPN at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas.

12 rounds. November 16th.

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“I don’t know how the fight is going to go. I think I’m going to surprise a lot of people. That’s what I’ve been doing my whole career. On fight night, I’ll be doing what I’ve been consistently doing, and that’s been dominating.”

I don't doubt him and I bet his fans don't too, it's him who doubted himself after he rejected that chance against Devin Haney and used the 75/25 share to avoid the fight.
He can box, that's for sure and his record tells it. 20 wins, 10 knockouts. That's a great number and I think he can really surprise a lot of people or they won't be surprised because they actually believe he can.
But, there are times that a boxer has to take risks if he wants to be on the top and he was given that opportunity but he didn't grab it.
Well, he is young, and there's still a chance, this is his prime but next time he should not look at the money but the goal should be the championship belt.

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Ryan Garcia shared his own prediction about the upcoming Devin Haney versus Regis Prograis fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWtC65indlU

He also said that Regis Prograis will be the aggressive one because Devin Haney is not the come-forward guy. We will see.

But Regis has something to say too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q28_gCfYSCc
"I'm gonna beat the f**k out of Devin Haney."
That makes the fight more interesting. I have also seen a lot of predictions that this fight will go long up to 12 rounds but considering how emotions are overwhelming between the two boxers, it might really become a fight with someone lying on the mat or a TKO in the end.
He said he had been busting his ass and grinding. I hope we will see that in the ring.

What do you guys think?
The odds are still unchanged. Prograis @3.65 and Haney @1.26.
I am waiting for the odds of KO, Decision, and Round Pick on when it will end. I hope the offers will be decent.

I wouldn't exactly trust Ryan Garcia's wisdom after he picked Rolly Romero to beat Tank Davis. In this case he is just going along with what everybody else has already said. Haney winning a decision is the consensus opinion.

I do think those odds are a bit lopsided. Prograis is an underdog but he has the kind of power that can shift the balance in his favor at any moment. Haney's power wasn't respected at lightweight, in a higher weight class this will be even more of a challenge. His defense will have to be perfect to achieve the outcome most are expecting.

Yup, Prograis might be an underdog, but his power can be a game changer once he starts to throw those solid punches and convert I think
Haney will have a big problem countering him.

Though, Haney is a known defensive fighter if he will manage to keep his distance and not to allow Prograis to convert the chance of winning is with him.

Closing the fight in the decision and scoring statistically Haney might take this fight against Prograis.

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