Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 37. (Read 31605 times)

Cool. Thank you for sharing that. An early face-to-face for both champions. I don't know though why they want a dark background.
Tyson Fury: "He is Oleksandr, but I am the great." Trying to be funny now? Well. he made Usyk smile a bit.
Oleksandr Usyk: "Nothing that Tyson Fury said insults me. Nothing at all."
This fight will surely be fun, I can't wait to see both fighters step on the boxing ring and I bet the pay-per-view of this will be a blast too.

Here is the countdown of their fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEqgAV862OM

A must-watch for every boxing enthusiast to refresh our memories about the two. Also, this will be informative for those who have not known the two fighters.

4 times he was knocked down. I didn't expect that. John Ryder has a tough chin and I thought it would go on distance for the judges' decision to be made. Ryder's corner may have already known that it could happen so they stopped the fight as early as possible to avoid more damage.
A potential fight with Canelo and Munguia said it would be an honor to fight him. Yes, Munguia is an offensive weapon but sadly Ryder doesn't have a good offense and we already saw that when he fought Canelo where he mostly did just defense. Canelo will not be like that, it will be fists against fists and if Canelo's left hand is fully healed including his mental problem of being scared to throw it, then Munguia will be in big trouble.

We are getting closer to possibly the greatest fight in the modern era of boxing, Fury Vs Usuk, which will unify the following belts: WBC (Fury) and WBA, WBO, IBF, IBO (Usyk). So unless the fight ends with a draw, we will see the first undisputed heavyweight champion in over 20 years.
An interesting face-off style interview popped up 3 days ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du94sRofifU

I like this form of interview as it allows to assess who is more confident and has a mental advantage. I think it's clear that Fury appeared to be mentally dominating, but it's hard to imagine anyone being better than him in this element.

Munguia has shown a good fight in this one and I think he deserves to get the fight. At the moment it looks to me that both Canelo and Benavidez are trying to avoid each other. So I think just give Canelo to Munguia. That is going to be a good fight in my opinion. And people would also wanna see that fight in my opinion. I also agree that it is going to be a very interesting fight. Both of them, Canelo and Munguia are kind of crazy. It is going to be a fight worth watching.

Just make this fight if Canelo and Benavidez are avoiding each other.

Munguia was able to get the TKO win against a fighter who went the distance with Canelo. If Canelo doesn't fight Benavidez, then Munguia seems like the next best option. Munguia is never in a boring fight so I am sure against Canelo it will be a slugfest. Munguia's porous defense is his biggest weakness and would probably be his downfall against Canelo. It is still a good matchup on paper with potential to be fight of the year.

It's indeed interesting to observe how the Paul Brothers have consciously shifted away from the YouTube-centric approach, emphasizing a more serious and professional engagement within the sport of boxing. This deliberate focus on just legitimate boxing skills reflects a commitment to elevating the sport's reputation. Turki Alalshikh's involvement seems rooted in a genuine desire to contribute positively to his country, extending beyond mere entertainment. It's admirable that he is taking steps to foster a more serious boxing culture in Saudi Arabia. However, it's understandable that this approach may limit opportunities for influencers looking to venture into boxing in the region. The balance between maintaining the sport's integrity and allowing for new talent to emerge is indeed a nuanced challenge



It's indeed interesting to observe how the Paul Brothers have consciously shifted away from the YouTube-centric approach, emphasizing a more serious and professional engagement within the sport of boxing. This deliberate focus on just legitimate boxing skills reflects a commitment to elevating the sport's reputation. Turki Alalshikh's involvement seems rooted in a genuine desire to contribute positively to his country, extending beyond mere entertainment. It's admirable that he is taking steps to foster a more serious boxing culture in Saudi Arabia. However, it's understandable that this approach may limit opportunities for influencers looking to venture into boxing in the region. The balance between maintaining the sport's integrity and allowing for new talent to emerge is indeed a nuanced challenge,

I am surprised there is no declaration on the match. I do not doubt that Bivol and Beterbiev wanted this match without issues. The delay has more to do with the promoters. The matches of Bivol are shown on DAZN so it could be Eddie Hearn who promotes him and Bob Arum represents Beterbiev.

It appears Gervonta Davis is protecting his 0. On the other hand, Devin Haney is more willing to put his 0 at risk to become great.

His next match is with Isaac Cruz who is climbing in weight class, and it should not shock the fans because Rolly Romero is careful with his decisions to keep his championship belt.

Inoue is definitely a great fighter. But Pac-Man was on another level. I think it is not wrong to say that he was actually at the Muhammad Ali level.. because yes definitely he was one of the best. I think he had been the champion of eight weight levels if I'm not wrong. So I don't think he is actually at that level. He might be in future. But for now, he is certainly not.

I know people do not like some of the decisions that are being taken by Inoue. But here I think he is taking the smart decisions. Because after all he still wishes to continue to be the champion.

It's surprising to see Rolly Romero being considered at the championship level, especially when compared to fighters like Lopez, Haney, and Matias. Teofimo Lopez's released sparring match with Romero, in response to Romero's disrespect towards Oscar De La Hoya, sheds light on the perceived skill difference. The video seems to highlight a notable gap, with Lopez seemingly easily handling Romero, who is referred to as a class C boxer. It's indeed a unique perspective on the level of competition in the boxing world.


The deliberate avoidance of YouTube-centric is exemplified by the Paul Brothers, fostering serious and professional engagements within the sport. This discerning focus on authentic boxing prowess speaks to a dedicated pursuit of elevating the sport's stature and sure Turki Alalshikh just wants the best for his country and not just because of entertainment and that is why he is certainly doing this, which is why I really like that he is doing this and I am really jealous on the people of Saudi Arabia for having such leader, but for sure not giving a chance for the Influencer that wants to risk into boxing doesn't have a chance to fight in Saudi Arabia,

It makes sense to aim for seasoned veteran fighters like Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather, Gervonta "Tank" Davis, Devin Haney, Artur Beterbiev, and Dmitry Bidol for a high-quality match. It adds credibility and ensures a more intriguing competition. Steering clear of YouTube-based boxers like the Paul Brothers aligns with a desire for serious and professional bouts. It's clear that the focus is on genuine boxing talent, which should indeed elevate the sport's status. These exciting times for those eager to see how these matchups unfold,


It's fascinating to see the enthusiasm from Beterbiev and Bivol to face each other, and having Alalshikh facilitating the match is a promising prospect. The challenge of different promoters adds complexity, but with the substantial resources of KSA, dream matches can materialize. While Alalshikh's gesture towards Gervonta Davis with ten Ferraris is noteworthy, the KSA boxing authorities prioritize undisputed champions. They view Haney in that light, providing Davis with an opportunity to contend for the belts. Davis, however, sees it differently, believing Haney needs him for the match. Exciting dynamics in the boxing world,


It's interesting to observe the contrasting approaches among fighters. Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua, being international giants, don't seem to make extravagant demands just to initiate negotiations. The question arises whether Gervonta Davis's demands stem from an inflated ego or a reluctance to face Devin Haney. The Saudis have proven their financial capability to make significant fights happen without the need for excessive gestures. Davis has the opportunity to take on the challenge, potentially securing the most lucrative deal of his career. The choice between stepping into the ring and continuing to rely on Floyd and Al Haymon's protection adds an intriguing layer to the unfolding story

Definitely, though Inoue is an exceptional boxer but he is nowhere near to Pacman in terms of achievement in boxing. At his age, I think Pacman had already achieve lots of belts in different division, but Inoue stays in super bantamweight although he had unified all the belts already. Another thing that people does't admire on his is he keeps fighting in Japan, and even the "ban for life" sanction on Nery has suddenly been lifted just to give way to his fight with Inoue which is expected the champion will easily beat Nery.

Inoue is still too far from Pacquiao's achievement. Though undeniably he's got skills, speed, and power, but he still needs to step outside his territory and beat future hall of famers, fight in catchweight since he has been dominating on his current division. Well, I guess the boxing association are protecting his value. It would be less interesting to watch an Inoue fight if he'd lose to a stronger fighter. Unless, he's got enough charisma like Pacquiao who could bounce back and fight like he didn't get knocked out cold by Marquez. That's the downside of being an undefeated fighter, one defeat might change everything and winning everything back might be another difficult path.

I can confirm that the career of Mungia has deteriorated significantly due to GBP. He has given up his championship belt and moved up in weight class, but GBP has failed to give him another championship match. Mungia should have held off on moving up unless he can no longer make the weight. By continuing to defend his championship belt and by challenging the other champions to unify, his name would remain significant.

Berlanga must be safeguarded because his abilities are inferior to those of Mungia. He left Top Rank because the boxers there are world class and Arum cannot safeguard him anymore.

If I'm not mistaken, it's a strategic partnership between Zanfer Promotions and GBP. So we might say that he has been protected specially by GBP, and so there could be hype on Jaime as early as 2019. But then again, pandemic and so all the plans have been derailed.

However, we all know what all this fighters are looking for, a big payday against Canelo Alvarez. And I think Oscar wanted him to fight Canelo, but we will have to wait because he will have a bigger fighter to test in Ryder. And then after that, him and Berlanga as well, back and forth trash talking between this two young prospects specially with Berlanga was still with Top Rank, now he is under Match Room which might take negotiations difficult as Oscar and Eddie Hearn has some verbal toss as well.

i guess we were lucky for those who watched pacquiao's fights in his glory days. he did give his best foot forward, entertaining boxing fans and making this sports alive and being talked about. mayweather's style was just too technical, you couldn't enjoy watching because all he cared about was the points. now, another asian boxer is making his waves in the boxing world, in the name of Inoue. being tagged as following the footstep of Pacquiao.


that's what money can do in any sports. there's not much trouble arranging fights or matches if they are being paid right and much much more...at least this kingdom is also being open to the outside world and getting acquainted with the current happenings. and it is also good for the athletes as they are being paid good, which can give them a very good boost to do their best.

It's their handler who brings fight for them they are just following the demands of promoters to make sure that there's audiences that will watch and bet for the fight, we don't know what are the plans but Munguia needs to win this and create a good hype to his name to call for a much bigger fight,

though like you mentioned this is a big test for him and Ryder will not waste also his opportunity to regain his name and climb back.

Both weigh-in below 168 lbs, Munguia and Ryder at 167.8 lbs, but it's good to see them making the weight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJAY-koXMCw

Munguia though looks fresh maybe because of his youth, but he is still the favorite in this fight. I wanted to see Munguia vs Berlanga though, I mean this two has been calling each other for quite sometime now and they are young that's why this fight is going to be equal though.

But let's see if Jaime can pass his big test against Ryder first.

A good one for the fans who really following those youngbloods, it's a big test for Munguia since he will be facing someone who almost bring  a threat to Canelo, someone who can bring out the best out from this young and rising fighter, like what you said, a good test and if ever he manage to win his resume will be fill out of another good win.

Let's see if how both fighters will entertain the fans and how exciting this fight will be, same with what you observe, it will be a tough one and also a difficult fight for Munguia maybe a decision win and far from a KO win.

It's just one loss though for Ryan, and I think his stock is not affected by that defeat from Davis. On the other hand, it was reported that he will be having his next fight. But they are talking it slowly again, rebuilding Ryan's reputation at 140 lbs. But definitely, I'm seeing him fighting for a world title in this division, targeting the weaker, let's say Rolly Romero later.

As for Tank Davis vs Haney, might be very hard to set up as both wanted to be the A-side and so who will take less of the split? Davis has the selling point because of his style, but Haney has the belt and accomplished a lot in his young career and willing to take risk that Davis hasn't done.

That could happen as promoter are willing to fund that big fight since they are sure they can be profitable with their investments. But if one boxer which I think Davis does not agree with the terms ^{(his excused)} then the fight will never be realize. So far, Haney's journey is more interesting as he is moving up and he not afraid to fight anyone, whether he is the one challening or the opposite thing.


Mayweather's style could be a model that most of the undefeated boxers are following. It's just a business on their side as well, and they need to protect their investment as a loss might also result to decline of value. Look at what happened to Ryan Garcia, he tooked a tougher challenger and now his value have dropped.

Right, it's going to be a great fight, we have heard that Jaime Munguia is the next big thing in the middleweight to super middle weight and Oscar has been trying to build this name for years. And I think this is a step up for him to fight with the likes of John Ryder. Who, we know have fought Canelo and give him a big test in their fight in Mexico. Perhaps they think that Ryder is a stepping stone for the young Munguia, but it's a dangerous fight for him nevertheless. Ryder will rely on his experience, why Munguia in his youth and his power. I think Munguia might clip Ryder in a few occasions but not seeing him winning by a knockout as Ryder is tough customer. Canelo wasn't able to knock him out, just saying.