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Quote from: danherbias07 on February 18, 2024, 06:43:12 PM

Then there's David Benavidez and he is entitled to have that chance. And if the news is correct, WBC already ordered Canelo to fight him and discussions are being made.
https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2024/02/18/65d26b2922601d2e408b45cc.html
Canelo Alvarez to face David Benavidez by order of the WBC
I believe the boxing fans would welcome this and would love to see this happen.

That article is kind of clickbait. Sulaimain gave a 20 second soundbite to a YouTube channel in which he said Benavidez would be ratified as Canelo's mandatory challenger but it still seems like they are dragging their feet on actually ordering that fight to take place. There is currently no deadline for when Canelo has to face him. Being mandatory is meaningless if they won't really enforce it.

Sulaiman also said there have been talks between their management because they are both with PBC but we don't know how serious those talks even were. Sampson Lewkowicz, who is Benavidez' official promoter, has stated that Canelo has no interest in facing David this year. I am taking Sulaiman's statement with a huge grain of salt as there is no reason why the president of one of the most corrupt sports organizations should be considered a trustworthy source.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on February 16, 2024, 08:04:19 AM

^^ He is not going to retire, he just said that he will not fight Mexican next. And there are noises from within the boxing community and even in social media that his next opponent will be Jermall Charlo. And we boxing fans want to see him against David Benavidez, but it's not going to happen for now. David though is the interim WBC champion while Canelo is their regular champion. But WBC doesn't want to force Canelo as he is the cash cow and obviously Sulaiman's favorite and so he can dictate who he wants to fight. And base on his contract with PBC, they have Jermall Charlo in their stable so it's going to be easy to set up the fight. It's that if the fans are going to buy the tickets. But I will assumed that they will, as we all know that Canelo is still the cash cow and no matter who his opponent will, fans are more willing to see him either live or PPV.

I am pretty sure that retirement is not in his mind right now. I think it is a strategy. Yes, strategy of avoiding good fighters who might cause problems. I don't think he has actually anything against fighting a fighter of his own nationality. He just knows that the fighter might actually be a good competition for him.

Retirement is definitely not in his mind and I can say that with so much confidence because of the reason that you stated. He is still in the money fight. Fans want to see him. So he still has the capability of generating a lot of revenue. And nobody is going to pass on such opportunities.

No, I don't think so too. Not until he is forced to fight a strong boxer by the organization itself (like Yaunfitda said), especially if they want to make a good money flow.
But, he is the champion so he can decide who or when to fight unless he is not doing it at the specific amount of time given, then WBC will probably step in.

Who's next? They say it will happen in May but there's still no news about who he will fight next. Because of that, a lot of speculation are coming out and challengers are also voicing out.
Terence Crawford was one who voiced out that he would even try to climb three divisions just to test Canelo.
Then there's David Benavidez and he is entitled to have that chance. And if the news is correct, WBC already ordered Canelo to fight him and discussions are being made.
https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2024/02/18/65d26b2922601d2e408b45cc.html
Canelo Alvarez to face David Benavidez by order of the WBC
I believe the boxing fans would welcome this and would love to see this happen.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on February 16, 2024, 09:56:43 PM

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Ideal yes, but Canelo as we have been saying, is hiding on the reason that he doesn't want to fight another Mexican, so strike it out, ~~Munguia~~ and ~~Benavidez~~. Charlo though trying to deny for now that he will be the next opponent, so if not him and not Crawford, who will be?

Bivol will have his fight already against Beterbiev, and so he is also out of the equation, and if we look at the champions at 168 lbs, David Morrell is the only one for him. Unless he is willing to fight the number 1 rank in two divisions its, Christian Mbilli. But who the hell is Mbilli? He is not American, not Mexican but a French fighter.

M’billi is an exciting fighter with a high knockout percentage. His style is similar to Munguia. I wouldn’t mind seeing him against Canelo eventually but he needs to build up his résumé a bit more to be considered.

According to Benavidez’ promoter, Canelo has no plans of fighting him this year. Canelo’s contract with PBC will be over after his next two fights so it’s possible he’ll avoid Benavidez entirely. Maybe he is hoping that if he stalls long enough, Benavidez will outgrow the division.

Yes, I do agree his record is good, but it's a question on how they can market him in the US, or what will be the storyline for him to fight Canelo, as fans might think that this is just another John Ryder performance for Canelo.

Right, we all get the clear picture after that announcement of Canelo that Benavidez is not on his time table for at least this year. Benavidez could go to Light HW, but I think he is hell bent and his father to fight Canelo, biggest paycheck and the chance to upset and get all his belt and maybe sort of like passing the torch for him to be the next big thing in boxing.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on February 16, 2024, 09:56:43 PM

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Ideal yes, but Canelo as we have been saying, is hiding on the reason that he doesn't want to fight another Mexican, so strike it out, ~~Munguia~~ and ~~Benavidez~~. Charlo though trying to deny for now that he will be the next opponent, so if not him and not Crawford, who will be?

Bivol will have his fight already against Beterbiev, and so he is also out of the equation, and if we look at the champions at 168 lbs, David Morrell is the only one for him. Unless he is willing to fight the number 1 rank in two divisions its, Christian Mbilli. But who the hell is Mbilli? He is not American, not Mexican but a French fighter.

M’billi is an exciting fighter with a high knockout percentage. His style is similar to Munguia. I wouldn’t mind seeing him against Canelo eventually but he needs to build up his résumé a bit more to be considered.

According to Benavidez’ promoter, Canelo has no plans of fighting him this year. Canelo’s contract with PBC will be over after his next two fights so it’s possible he’ll avoid Benavidez entirely. Maybe he is hoping that if he stalls long enough, Benavidez will outgrow the division.

Possible, so who is next after Charlo? David Morell? We have been hearing his name as well together with Benavidez and Munguia. Usually Canelo fights in May (Cinco de Mayo), and then September (Mexican Independence Day).

So if he wins against Charlo then and so he will just have 1 fight left in PBC. Probably Benavidez will have to look for other options then, yeah, why not move to 175, I think he could be natural 175 lbs for all we known as he is very tall like Bivol as compare to Canelo who is more stockier built and rightly for a super middle weight class.

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Quote from: Jating on February 16, 2024, 05:49:32 PM

I do think it will hurt Canelo's legacy if he doesn't ~~duck~~ Benavidez this year.

1. They are both in the same division, Benavidez holds the WBC interim belt.
2. Charlo twins are 154 lbs and 160 lbs champion, they are moving up in weight to fight him.
3. Didn't fight Bivol for a rematch.
4. They said Benavidez should fight other PBC fighters and so he did, beat Plant and Demetrius Andrade and beat them.

Obviously, Canelo's legacy is going to be strained for not fighting a prime Benavidez wherein Floyd gave him that chance before.

The problem with Benavidez is he is only a mandatory. He doesn't bring anything beneficial to Canelo. He's like a super high risk with a decent reward that is not so high. I think Canelo just went the Mayweather way. Floyd was old at that time but he demanded a catchweight against a green 23-year-old Canelo.

Everybody's praising Benavidez but I also feel something for this guy. I believe he will also start ducking once he becomes the top dog. It's because he canceled his fight with fellow prospect and undefeated David Morrell in favor of an old and inactive Andrade. If Benavidez won, he could've become not just the WBC mandatory but also in the WBA since Morrell holds that right.

Earlier Canelo said he is facing an American next which means not Mungia. Thought it was either Bud or maybe Jermall. But just lately, he denied Crawford saying he does not want the fans to say he beat a smaller guy who moved up 3 divisions. So I guess it is Jermall against Canelo this Cinco De Mayo. Revenge of the twin will be the theme. Cheesy

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 15, 2024, 06:00:47 AM

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@Baofeng. What fight would make more money, if Munguia fights Canelo or if Charlo fights Canelo?

Depends on the location, if it will be in Mexico, then Munguia vs Canelo might be huge. Or if it is wherein there are a lot of Mexicans like in San Antonio or Munguia's home town of Phoenix, then it will be a lot of money as well.

He will be fighting a Charlo that has been out for almost a 2 years because of mental health, and then a career middle weight fighter.

So it's going to be a hard sell, but then again when he fought Jermell, a 154 lbs it did make good money, 650,000-700,000 pay per view buys. So still Canelo is the cash cow.

very expensive if the price per view is up to 700k dollars. everyone will choose to watch live at the boxing match venue. or watch it on pay TV services. because there are many pay tv whose prices are much cheaper for just watching boxing matches live. almost certainly will not sell if the pay per view price is up to 700k dollars.

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Quote from: btc_angela on February 16, 2024, 05:32:11 AM

Ideal yes, but Canelo as we have been saying, is hiding on the reason that he doesn't want to fight another Mexican, so strike it out, ~~Munguia~~ and ~~Benavidez~~. Charlo though trying to deny for now that he will be the next opponent, so if not him and not Crawford, who will be?

Bivol will have his fight already against Beterbiev, and so he is also out of the equation, and if we look at the champions at 168 lbs, David Morrell is the only one for him. Unless he is willing to fight the number 1 rank in two divisions its, Christian Mbilli. But who the hell is Mbilli? He is not American, not Mexican but a French fighter.

M’billi is an exciting fighter with a high knockout percentage. His style is similar to Munguia. I wouldn’t mind seeing him against Canelo eventually but he needs to build up his résumé a bit more to be considered.

According to Benavidez’ promoter, Canelo has no plans of fighting him this year. Canelo’s contract with PBC will be over after his next two fights so it’s possible he’ll avoid Benavidez entirely. Maybe he is hoping that if he stalls long enough, Benavidez will outgrow the division.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on February 16, 2024, 08:04:19 AM

^^ He is not going to retire, he just said that he will not fight Mexican next. And there are noises from within the boxing community and even in social media that his next opponent will be Jermall Charlo. And we boxing fans want to see him against David Benavidez, but it's not going to happen for now. David though is the interim WBC champion while Canelo is their regular champion. But WBC doesn't want to force Canelo as he is the cash cow and obviously Sulaiman's favorite and so he can dictate who he wants to fight. And base on his contract with PBC, they have Jermall Charlo in their stable so it's going to be easy to set up the fight. It's that if the fans are going to buy the tickets. But I will assumed that they will, as we all know that Canelo is still the cash cow and no matter who his opponent will, fans are more willing to see him either live or PPV.

Still precise to his statement that he will not going to fight his fellow Mexican and just like what you mentioned he can dictate what he wants as he still bringing money they will keep it that way. In terms of those many fans who keeps on calling for him to face this prime Benavidez, they will continue to see more dissapointment, unless Canelo will change his position and take their call.

For now, we will see him inside the ring again, and all those bettors and fans who loves Canelo will surely support him and the cycle of bringing money will continue.

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I do think it will hurt Canelo's legacy if he doesn't ~~duck~~ Benavidez this year.

1. They are both in the same division, Benavidez holds the WBC interim belt.
2. Charlo twins are 154 lbs and 160 lbs champion, they are moving up in weight to fight him.
3. Didn't fight Bivol for a rematch.
4. They said Benavidez should fight other PBC fighters and so he did, beat Plant and Demetrius Andrade and beat them.

Obviously, Canelo's legacy is going to be strained for not fighting a prime Benavidez wherein Floyd gave him that chance before.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on February 16, 2024, 08:04:19 AM

^^ He is not going to retire, he just said that he will not fight Mexican next. And there are noises from within the boxing community and even in social media that his next opponent will be Jermall Charlo. And we boxing fans want to see him against David Benavidez, but it's not going to happen for now. David though is the interim WBC champion while Canelo is their regular champion. But WBC doesn't want to force Canelo as he is the cash cow and obviously Sulaiman's favorite and so he can dictate who he wants to fight. And base on his contract with PBC, they have Jermall Charlo in their stable so it's going to be easy to set up the fight. It's that if the fans are going to buy the tickets. But I will assumed that they will, as we all know that Canelo is still the cash cow and no matter who his opponent will, fans are more willing to see him either live or PPV.

I am pretty sure that retirement is not in his mind right now. I think it is a strategy. Yes, strategy of avoiding good fighters who might cause problems. I don't think he has actually anything against fighting a fighter of his own nationality. He just knows that the fighter might actually be a good competition for him.

Retirement is definitely not in his mind and I can say that with so much confidence because of the reason that you stated. He is still in the money fight. Fans want to see him. So he still has the capability of generating a lot of revenue. And nobody is going to pass on such opportunities.

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^^ He is not going to retire, he just said that he will not fight Mexican next. And there are noises from within the boxing community and even in social media that his next opponent will be Jermall Charlo. And we boxing fans want to see him against David Benavidez, but it's not going to happen for now. David though is the interim WBC champion while Canelo is their regular champion. But WBC doesn't want to force Canelo as he is the cash cow and obviously Sulaiman's favorite and so he can dictate who he wants to fight. And base on his contract with PBC, they have Jermall Charlo in their stable so it's going to be easy to set up the fight. It's that if the fans are going to buy the tickets. But I will assumed that they will, as we all know that Canelo is still the cash cow and no matter who his opponent will, fans are more willing to see him either live or PPV.

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Meanwhile, it seems unlikely that Canelo is facing Mungia. Canelo is starting to pick opponents that are beatable but also marketable. Canelo said he is not fighting a Mexican and his next fight is against an American. I say Crawford or Jermall.

But so far Jaime Munguia is a pretty ideal potential opponent for Canelo, considering Mugia performance is currently on fire compared to the other two potential opponents, of course it's quite disappointing if Canelo prefers a weak opponent and to be honest it seems like Canelo is a little afraid of Jaime Munguia and makes somone comes from Mexico as a reason to avoid Jaime Munguia, as we know, Jermall Charlo has taken a break from the world of boxing for a while and if he returns to face Canelo on May 4, of course he won't have enough time to restore his stamina so it will clearly be an easy opponent for Canelo later, apart from that Charlo has reportedly denied that he will fight Canelo because so far Charlo is on holiday and said in an interview that he has not received an offer for the fight, I think so far there doesn't seem to be any solid information about who the opponent will be to faced by Canelo to defend his IBF, WBA, WBC and WBO super middleweight title belts.

Ideal yes, but Canelo as we have been saying, is hiding on the reason that he doesn't want to fight another Mexican, so strike it out, ~~Munguia~~ and ~~Benavidez~~. Charlo though trying to deny for now that he will be the next opponent, so if not him and not Crawford, who will be?

Bivol will have his fight already against Beterbiev, and so he is also out of the equation, and if we look at the champions at 168 lbs, David Morrell is the only one for him. Unless he is willing to fight the number 1 rank in two divisions its, Christian Mbilli.

Then I guess Canelo would retire at the current status as he doesn't want to fight a Mexican boxer. Let's hope that Bivol will win so he has no excuse, a rematch would be fun to watch and people will surely be invested on the fight. Maybe after Bivol beating Beterbiev which is a tough opponent despite an aging boxer already, both camp might agree already with a 50/50 sharing.

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But who the hell is Mbilli? He is not American, not Mexican but a French fighter.

Fighting a mandatory challenger or a boxer with a good rank is okay, but it's better if Canelo would fight a popular one as that would satisfy the fans.

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Meanwhile, it seems unlikely that Canelo is facing Mungia. Canelo is starting to pick opponents that are beatable but also marketable. Canelo said he is not fighting a Mexican and his next fight is against an American. I say Crawford or Jermall.

But so far Jaime Munguia is a pretty ideal potential opponent for Canelo, considering Mugia performance is currently on fire compared to the other two potential opponents, of course it's quite disappointing if Canelo prefers a weak opponent and to be honest it seems like Canelo is a little afraid of Jaime Munguia and makes somone comes from Mexico as a reason to avoid Jaime Munguia, as we know, Jermall Charlo has taken a break from the world of boxing for a while and if he returns to face Canelo on May 4, of course he won't have enough time to restore his stamina so it will clearly be an easy opponent for Canelo later, apart from that Charlo has reportedly denied that he will fight Canelo because so far Charlo is on holiday and said in an interview that he has not received an offer for the fight, I think so far there doesn't seem to be any solid information about who the opponent will be to faced by Canelo to defend his IBF, WBA, WBC and WBO super middleweight title belts.

Ideal yes, but Canelo as we have been saying, is hiding on the reason that he doesn't want to fight another Mexican, so strike it out, ~~Munguia~~ and ~~Benavidez~~. Charlo though trying to deny for now that he will be the next opponent, so if not him and not Crawford, who will be?

Bivol will have his fight already against Beterbiev, and so he is also out of the equation, and if we look at the champions at 168 lbs, David Morrell is the only one for him. Unless he is willing to fight the number 1 rank in two divisions its, Christian Mbilli. But who the hell is Mbilli? He is not American, not Mexican but a French fighter.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on February 16, 2024, 02:43:38 AM

Meanwhile, it seems unlikely that Canelo is facing Mungia. Canelo is starting to pick opponents that are beatable but also marketable. Canelo said he is not fighting a Mexican and his next fight is against an American. I say Crawford or Jermall.

But so far Jaime Munguia is a pretty ideal potential opponent for Canelo, considering Mugia performance is currently on fire compared to the other two potential opponents, of course it's quite disappointing if Canelo prefers a weak opponent and to be honest it seems like Canelo is a little afraid of Jaime Munguia and makes somone comes from Mexico as a reason to avoid Jaime Munguia, as we know, Jermall Charlo has taken a break from the world of boxing for a while and if he returns to face Canelo on May 4, of course he won't have enough time to restore his stamina so it will clearly be an easy opponent for Canelo later, apart from that Charlo has reportedly denied that he will fight Canelo because so far Charlo is on holiday and said in an interview that he has not received an offer for the fight, I think so far there doesn't seem to be any solid information about who the opponent will be to faced by Canelo to defend his IBF, WBA, WBC and WBO super middleweight title belts.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on February 16, 2024, 01:21:36 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 15, 2024, 10:25:17 PM

It will certainly sell all of the tickets in Mexico, however, this fight is worldwide. Will it sell much payperview subscriptions? Also, will it sell more subscriptions than the revenge storyine of Canelo vs. Jermall Charlo? The team of Canelo will certainly accept the proposal where he can earn a bigger purse.

Canelo vs. Mungia would sell a lot of pay-per-views in the United States and that's what matters the most. The revenge storyline for Charlo is some contrived phony narrative, we all know Charlo is only doing it for the payday. Charlo is an inactive, washed up has-been that has lost any hunger he might've had. Most people can't even distinguish him from his brother so it just feels like he's fighting the same guy, the result will probably be the exact same too. It is a pointless fight.

Munguia isn't exactly a top pound for pound fighter but he is an exciting fighter who is still in his prime. His brawler style makes the fight more likely to end in knockout, which is something we haven't seen in a Canelo fight in quite some time. Munguia isn't the type of fighter who is just going to try and survive and be happy to go the distance and collect a paycheck, which is what I expect Charlo will do. He will be swinging for the home run with every punch and make it an entertaining fight.

Yes, Latinos especially Mexicans are huge in the US and nearby countries. So Mungia against Canelo will definitely sell a lot. And you are right, the fight is not just a boring survival and outboxing trick that Jermall would most likely do at this stage of his career. Although I think Mungia has matured a bit, I believe he's got better killer instinct when he was younger. That 21-year-old version of Mungia was like a murderer inside the ring. Very hungry, has good reflexes, decent speed, a tough chin, and throws punches not to score points but to KO opponents.

Meanwhile, it seems unlikely that Canelo is facing Mungia. Canelo is starting to pick opponents that are beatable but also marketable. Canelo said he is not fighting a Mexican and his next fight is against an American. I say Crawford or Jermall.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 15, 2024, 10:25:17 PM

It will certainly sell all of the tickets in Mexico, however, this fight is worldwide. Will it sell much payperview subscriptions? Also, will it sell more subscriptions than the revenge storyine of Canelo vs. Jermall Charlo? The team of Canelo will certainly accept the proposal where he can earn a bigger purse.

Canelo vs. Mungia would sell a lot of pay-per-views in the United States and that's what matters the most. The revenge storyline for Charlo is some contrived phony narrative, we all know Charlo is only doing it for the payday. Charlo is an inactive, washed up has-been that has lost any hunger he might've had. Most people can't even distinguish him from his brother so it just feels like he's fighting the same guy, the result will probably be the exact same too. It is a pointless fight.

Munguia isn't exactly a top pound for pound fighter but he is an exciting fighter who is still in his prime. His brawler style makes the fight more likely to end in knockout, which is something we haven't seen in a Canelo fight in quite some time. Munguia isn't the type of fighter who is just going to try and survive and be happy to go the distance and collect a paycheck, which is what I expect Charlo will do. He will be swinging for the home run with every punch and make it an entertaining fight.

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@Dave1. No, Oscar dela Hoya only said something good about Munguia and the sportsnews media hyped it for your clicks heheheh.

No, Oscar has been hyping Munguia since he got him under contract. And we all know that Oscar is good at hyping his fighters. And so with that, his wound with Canelo leaving him is still fresh and he wanted a story line that the young Munguia will be the next Mexican star and will beat Canelo.

Well we can say that the media also hype him, maybe it's because of the youth of Jaime or his personality that is similar to Oscar. Vibrant and young and boxing media love that kind of personality to say the least.

The media hypes him because he won by technical knock out vs. the fighter that went to the decision vs. Canelo. They are certainly doing this for your clicks hehe.

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@Baofeng. What fight would make more money, if Munguia fights Canelo or if Charlo fights Canelo?

Depends on the location, if it will be in Mexico, then Munguia vs Canelo might be huge. Or if it is wherein there are a lot of Mexicans like in San Antonio or Munguia's home town of Phoenix, then it will be a lot of money as well.

He will be fighting a Charlo that has been out for almost a 2 years because of mental health, and then a career middle weight fighter.

So it's going to be a hard sell, but then again when he fought Jermell, a 154 lbs it did make good money, 650,000-700,000 pay per view buys. So still Canelo is the cash cow.

It will certainly sell all of the tickets in Mexico, however, this fight is worldwide. Will it sell much payperview subscriptions? Also, will it sell more subscriptions than the revenge storyine of Canelo vs. Jermall Charlo? The team of Canelo will certainly accept the proposal where he can earn a bigger purse.

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@Baofeng. What fight would make more money, if Munguia fights Canelo or if Charlo fights Canelo?

Depends on the location, if it will be in Mexico, then Munguia vs Canelo might be huge. Or if it is wherein there are a lot of Mexicans like in San Antonio or Munguia's home town of Phoenix, then it will be a lot of money as well.

He will be fighting a Charlo that has been out for almost a 2 years because of mental health, and then a career middle weight fighter.

So it's going to be a hard sell, but then again when he fought Jermell, a 154 lbs it did make good money, 650,000-700,000 pay per view buys. So still Canelo is the cash cow.

I want Saul Alvarez to battle Jermall Charlo because it is a match many fans were expecting when he left Matchroom and transferred to PBC. But Mungia against Alvarez in Mexico or in the southern states close to Mexico can be greater than a Jermall Charlo match.

What's bad about this match up is that Jermall Charlo is not very active.

Quote from: Getmon on February 15, 2024, 10:28:49 AM

But how about David Benavidez? He is the boxer in the promotion that was hyped to confront Alvarez. It implies that even PBC cannot choose who Saul "Canelo" Alvarez wants next. Certainly, the advantage of being a cash cow. Perhaps Saudi Arabia can assist in bringing Alvarez and Benavidez into the ring.

He already said that he will not fight another Mexican, so it narrow down to Charlo. PBC hasn't had a tie with the Saudi, so far as far as I know only 3 promotions have taken advantage of the rich oil money in boxing, Top Rank by Bob Arum, Match Room by Eddie Hearn and Frank Warren's Queensberry Promotions. And perhaps this is the mistakes not just by PBC, but Oscar as well by not engaging Saudi and saying that it will hurt their boxers fighting in the Middle East.

And that's what I trying to say earlier, a Charlo fight doesn't make sense for Charlo, except that the risk is not that big. Charlo will have to move one weight class, and just like his brother who move 2 weight class.

For all the marbles, he might fight Crawford, but it doesn't have any noise right now except that Charlo is a PBC guy so most likely he will be the next fighter that Canelo will have this May and with that, so much with his announcement in Mexico's TV Azteca.

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Quote from: Getmon on February 15, 2024, 10:28:49 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on February 15, 2024, 06:00:47 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 14, 2024, 10:58:16 PM

@Baofeng. What fight would make more money, if Munguia fights Canelo or if Charlo fights Canelo?

Depends on the location, if it will be in Mexico, then Munguia vs Canelo might be huge. Or if it is wherein there are a lot of Mexicans like in San Antonio or Munguia's home town of Phoenix, then it will be a lot of money as well.

He will be fighting a Charlo that has been out for almost a 2 years because of mental health, and then a career middle weight fighter.

So it's going to be a hard sell, but then again when he fought Jermell, a 154 lbs it did make good money, 650,000-700,000 pay per view buys. So still Canelo is the cash cow.

I want Saul Alvarez to battle Jermall Charlo because it is a match many fans were expecting when he left Matchroom and transferred to PBC. But Mungia against Alvarez in Mexico or in the southern states close to Mexico can be greater than a Jermall Charlo match.

What's bad about this match up is that Jermall Charlo is not very active.

Quote from: Getmon on February 15, 2024, 10:28:49 AM

But how about David Benavidez? He is the boxer in the promotion that was hyped to confront Alvarez. It implies that even PBC cannot choose who Saul "Canelo" Alvarez wants next. Certainly, the advantage of being a cash cow. Perhaps Saudi Arabia can assist in bringing Alvarez and Benavidez into the ring.

He already said that he will not fight another Mexican, so it narrow down to Charlo. PBC hasn't had a tie with the Saudi, so far as far as I know only 3 promotions have taken advantage of the rich oil money in boxing, Top Rank by Bob Arum, Match Room by Eddie Hearn and Frank Warren's Queensberry Promotions. And perhaps this is the mistakes not just by PBC, but Oscar as well by not engaging Saudi and saying that it will hurt their boxers fighting in the Middle East.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 15, 2024, 06:00:47 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 14, 2024, 10:58:16 PM

@Baofeng. What fight would make more money, if Munguia fights Canelo or if Charlo fights Canelo?

Depends on the location, if it will be in Mexico, then Munguia vs Canelo might be huge. Or if it is wherein there are a lot of Mexicans like in San Antonio or Munguia's home town of Phoenix, then it will be a lot of money as well.

He will be fighting a Charlo that has been out for almost a 2 years because of mental health, and then a career middle weight fighter.

So it's going to be a hard sell, but then again when he fought Jermell, a 154 lbs it did make good money, 650,000-700,000 pay per view buys. So still Canelo is the cash cow.

I want Saul Alvarez to battle Jermall Charlo because it is a match many fans were expecting when he left Matchroom and transferred to PBC. But Mungia against Alvarez in Mexico or in the southern states close to Mexico can be greater than a Jermall Charlo match.

But how about David Benavidez? He is the boxer in the promotion that was hyped to confront Alvarez. It implies that even PBC cannot choose who Saul "Canelo" Alvarez wants next. Certainly, the advantage of being a cash cow. Perhaps Saudi Arabia can assist in bringing Alvarez and Benavidez into the ring.

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