Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 35. (Read 31605 times)

That is very bad for Gervonta Davis, first you don't piss off HE Alalshikh, haven't he noticed that the big fights are happening in Saudi and obviously, he could have been part of it as there are big money flowing in every direction, Eddie Hearn is very lucky that he is very close to the Saudi right now and see that he is thriving with it.

Oscar dela Hoya is really trying to get his hands on the oil money as well. But it seems that HE Alalshikh is also not keen on Oscar.

So this a wrong promotional move from Gervonta and I don't think that he can have a fight in ME and so second, he is missing on that huge paycheck.

Yup! very careful in picking his opponent like a true champ! Well, I really don't like Rolly Romero but what I really want to see is for him to really fight Ryan Garcia Fans like you will undoubtedly be eager to see how this match unfolds and whether Romero's careful approach will contribute to his continued success in the ring, Rolly Romero's upcoming match with Isaac Cruz adds an interesting dynamic, especially with Cruz climbing in weight class.


While Munguia's exciting fights are a draw for fans, his porous defense could pose a significant challenge against the defensive prowess of Canelo. The matchup on paper holds the promise of a high-stakes, action-packed encounter with the potential to be a contender for Fight of the Year, given Munguia's entertaining style in the ring. His recent TKO win against a fighter who went the distance with Canelo adds an intriguing element to the equation, The prospect of a matchup between Munguia and Canelo indeed carries the excitement of a potential slugfest,

As the boxing community speculates on potential matchups, the dynamics between Munguia and Canelo present an enticing narrative, and fans eagerly await the possibility of witnessing these two formidable fighters square off in the ring.

So this is the third time Big Belly disrupted Usyk's training camp. I am not really surprised by the cancellation. First, after his poor performance over Ngannou, he needs to fully heal and re-energize his body. He only wants to exploit his opponents like threatening to sue Usyk on that December 23rd date which meant to shorten the training camp of Usyk. And he does not want to get exploited even in the slightest. Second, Fury doesn't like to make full training camps during Christmas and New Years.

But there are also rumors in the UK that Fury is not doing well. He was beaten by a cruiserweight in 5 rounds of sparring. And that so-called leaked but obviously, intentionally spread video of Fury getting head by an elbow in sparring, I am not buying it. Why aren't they spreading to the public a video with a clear resolution? That way we can see the cut when Fury went near to the camera. I felt like the cut was already there and they just made a video to convince the public how he was cut. Fury is a hundred-million-dollar fighter but his team made a video from a very poor resolution camera or phone?

Oh yeah, better than getting cancelled at all. Now, Fury could have enough time to train as his fight with Francis is still fresh, at least this fight will happen before the 2nd half of the year, that's already a good news. Sure we won't be bored as there's still a lot that is line up, we will be able to see Parker vs Zhang, this is a title fight too.

Davis making excuses? this isn't new, he is the boy of Mayweather I belieive, so like his boss, he's acting the same. Inoue just trying to keep his undefeated record, maybe if he'll fight Inoue, it might end his win streak. 

The battle for the undisputed heavyweight championship between Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk is rescheduled for May 18 in Saudi Arabia. Albeit disappointing, we can just be happy the match did not end in cancellation and was simply postponed.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/68195602

And His Highness, Turki Alalshikh has a ruthless reaction to the Ferrari demands of Gervonta Davis. Alalshikh stated that he would send only two gloves. That implies Alalshikh is not accepting the delayings numerous boxers are doing whatever it takes to not face the best.
https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2024/02/04/65bef0d9e2704eab188b4579.html

Yes and it's obviously been postponed already, ticket are going to be refunded,


https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-usyk-fallout-entire-february-17-ring-fire-event-postponed--181159

Filip might be the replacement boxer, but I don't think it will this February 17. Everything is still based on what HE Alalshikh as they have the right for this big fight and maybe they are not that familiar with Filip and they just want to hold big fights in Saudi, so we will have to wait.

!!! Breaking news !!!

Fury Vs Usyk won't happen due to Tyson's injury (big cut to the right eye).
He got caught by an accidental elbow during the sparring, he was wearing a head-guard, but that didn't help.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/68187055

Michael Bisping's commentary, including the footage of unfortunate sparring:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBay8997Ifs&t

The fight will likely get postponed, although there are speculations of the replacement fight, possibly against Filip Hrgovic (17-0).

Oscar dela Hoya as a promoter only wants to hype his fighter and making quick actions to have him first to fight Canelo. This is a business and he can make a higher purse for Jaime Munguia while the hype is happening. I am quite certain in 2 months the hype will be gone and Oscar will need to find another fighter with no name for Jaime.

On Jermall Charlo, there is a good storyline for this. The revenge of the brother veey much similar to martial arts movies hehehe. There might be some skeptical fans who might speculate that Jermall let Jermell take the fight to collect information heeheh.

In any case, everyone does not like Kambosos vs. Lomachenko for the vacant IBF lightweight championship? This is certainly better than Canelo vs. Munguia hehehe

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/boxing-kambosos-vs-lomachenko-on-may-12-5483734

It's been happening for a while already. But now boxers are smarter too, they know how to protect their value and as much as possible they'll keep their undefeated record and build their wins by cherry picking their opponents. The greediness happened when a boxer left his promoter to promote his own because he wants to make most of the money he is making, besides, he is the main product and it's easy to find a promoter once a fighther had already build his own name. It's money matters, yes that's true.


Promoters are investors, of course they'll do everything to make their investment a success. They can't give money to satisfy the fans, but it should be them to be satisfied first then the fans. That's how it works now.

His ability to dictate his opponents and bypass mandatory fights showcases the level of control he has over his career. Canelo's comeback after the loss against Bivol only added to his allure, attracting attention from the super Middleweight division. The prospect of a money fight with him is enticing for many, and it seems he holds the power to choose his opponents strategically.

Considering his past decisions, a bout with Jermall Charlo, the original fighter in line, wouldn't be surprising. Canelo's journey continues to be a compelling narrative in the boxing world, where he not only fights for victory but also for the financial rewards that come with being the A-side. The unfolding chapters of his career are sure to keep fans eagerly anticipating his next move,

Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Dmitry Bivol were the only stains he has in his career record but despite that Canelo Alvarez still has a great reputation and fighting him will definitely give you a great amount to your salary even if you lose that fight,


Canelo's star power seems to grant him a level of autonomy when it comes to choosing his opponents and locations for fights. The governing bodies, recognizing his immense influence in the boxing world, appear more inclined to accommodate his preferences.

The potential matchup with Munguia does carry significant intrigue, especially given the reported success in ticket sales in Phoenix. It highlights the drawing power of both fighters and the potential for a blockbuster event. It's interesting how these dynamics play out, showcasing that sometimes the popularity and marketability of a fight can rival or even surpass the appeal of traditional mandatory matchups. It'll be fascinating to witness the outcome of these negotiations and the impact it has on the boxing landscape,

Money matters and they are good in making tons of it from those fighters who choose not to force themselves into fight but instead pay the fees and keep their name on top, I guess this corruptions already dominates and fighters and their camps are enjoying it as they can just pick who they want to accept then it's an easy money to take while you are still on the top rankings.

Promoters and those advertisers will continue to follow your name and will continue to support your fight, pay and be paid that's how
things works from WBC.

And that's why we say that WBC is the most corrupt organization in boxing, the Sulaiman turn it into a organization that those boxers and promoters will dictate everything and they will do nothing about it. Like as what you have describe, they are going to milk Canelo as much as they can with this fees and not enforcing Canelo's mandatory. It will be great if they can push Benavidez vs Munguia next, but I doubt it as well. They wil have to defend this guys as they could be their next cash cow, so they have to fight other names in their rankings and then Canelo going to Jermall Charlo.

Anyone seen the tweet wars between Ryan Garcia and Shakur Stevenson?



https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1753509080574967920

This steam from the reports that Shakur is retiring, and then everyone is trying to comment on his retirement. But Shakur didn't like it and so they go back and forth on their official Twitter account. Just funny though, but I guess this is the new era of trash talking, they can do it in their social media and then we will be the judge.

You are correct, WBC could simply extract fees for the matches of each of these boxers instead of forcing them to compete against one another. WBC is simply business and is no longer putting respect to boxing. World Business Council is the better meaning for WBC.

Perhaps Saudi Arabia can help the dream match of the fans by making the Saul Alvarez and David Benavidez match. Recently, Saudi Arabia has been turning difficult matches into a reality. But perhaps PBC is not willing to participate and is requesting more sums of money very much like Gervonta Davis asking two Ferraris just to allow a discussion of a match with Haney.

The big winner in this is the WBC who gets to keep milking the cash cow Canelo in sanctioning fees, plus now they have Benavidez as interim champion, and Munguia as silver champion. It's not in their interest to force Canelo to fight either of them because they would rather keep extracting fees from multiple champions instead of one. They should at least order Benavidez and Munguia to fight each other. Then Canelo won't be able to say they haven't earned an opportunity.

He did lost to Bivol already, so we might say that Bivol is too big or LHW is not for Canelo as the added weight is too much for his body as shown in the fight that it seems that he can't pull the trigger against Bivol and Bivol's hand are too fast for him, the volumes are also very accurate. So Canelo goes to his super MW division, fight a balloon 154 lbs in Jermell Charlo, and now the reports says that he will fight the twin brother Jermall who is also a 160 lbs? He should be facing Benavidez next, but I guess he will hide on the excuse of not fighting another Mexican isn't it?

If canelo fights bivol or binavides, he will most likely lose. his body is bigger and his punches are harder. but it will be interesting if his opponent is a top light heavyweight, but yes, it is likely that canelo will lose and the promoter's gold mine can be reduced if canelo's big name fades if he loses. more interesting if canelo meets arthur bertabiev, he will be the king ko of his class.

I mean if you haven't followed Jaime's rise to fame, he is supposedly the next big thing, the next hype in the middleweight/super middle weight. Maybe you can add the storyline that he is under GBP and Oscar is hell bent on having Munguia fight his once cash cow in Canelo. They separated in a bad note and Oscar might be mad for Canelo for dumping him.


And the front running as per reports is Jermall Charlo vs Canelo Alvarez next. All in-house money for PBC again. But obviously there are fans that will not like this fight, as we wanted him to face David Benavidez, but Canelo is clearly ducking him.

Right, I don't know when was the last time that we have seen a HW unification fight. If my memory serves me right we haven't seen since like in the 80's as when the Klitscho brothers dominated this division, they obviously doesn't want to fight each other. And so we can trace back the lineal HW champion to Fury himself when he beat once of the Klitscho before his first retirement due to mental issues. And there is a promo that is worth watching as well, that added more hype to this fight. Fury though is the slight favorite but it's really hard to predict, as he is the physical dominant boxer between the two, but Usyk is quicker and more agile in my opinion.

Yup, I normally don't have much time to watch a whole fight live, but might take an exception for this one. The unification of all major belts doesn't happen very often. On top of that, both are undefeated and one of them will lose that status.


What about a rematch with Bivol? Canelo said a few times that he would want that to happen, but whether that's true or not is a different story.