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Quote from: Iranus on September 15, 2023, 12:26:02 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on September 14, 2023, 02:42:47 PM

It's totally different though in the US specially in boxing since they have a lot of good fighters, and countries like Mexico, Puerto Rico or even Philippines really support their boxers no matter what.
So I do agree that Mexico is still behind Canelo even if others think that he is sliding down a bit, just like Manny Pacquaio during his reign.
There will be time that Father time will caught up with this legendary boxers, but still the fans and the whole nation will be behind them.
As for Crawford, he will have his die hard fans, just like what they show in the Spence fight.
And some of them might be keyboard warriors too. But we will have to wait what will be the results of Canelo vs Charlo fight first.

I think keyboard warriors are not real fans. I don’t know how people are going to react to this statement of mine. But I think those who understand will understand. And those people who are going to be opposing of this idea of mine, are going to be the keyboard warriors. They are just capable of trash talking on "X", nothing else. So I don’t think the keyboard warriors are actually real fans.

I think Canelo is going to win against Charlo. Of course, this is not 100% certain. But I think that is going to be the end result of that fight.

For me they are real fans, I mean they want to argue with anyone thru their keyboards, even with boxers themselves. I remember that Crawford is replying to some die hard fans of Spence after he beat him.

They saying that Spence had and coming from an injury and that he is weight drain. Of course you will have to understand this keyboard warrior fans, but sometimes it's just so ridiculous to argue with them.

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Quote from: Kemarit on September 14, 2023, 02:42:47 PM

It's totally different though in the US specially in boxing since they have a lot of good fighters, and countries like Mexico, Puerto Rico or even Philippines really support their boxers no matter what.
So I do agree that Mexico is still behind Canelo even if others think that he is sliding down a bit, just like Manny Pacquaio during his reign.
There will be time that Father time will caught up with this legendary boxers, but still the fans and the whole nation will be behind them.
As for Crawford, he will have his die hard fans, just like what they show in the Spence fight.
And some of them might be keyboard warriors too. But we will have to wait what will be the results of Canelo vs Charlo fight first.

I think keyboard warriors are not real fans. I don’t know how people are going to react to this statement of mine. But I think those who understand will understand. And those people who are going to be opposing of this idea of mine, are going to be the keyboard warriors. They are just capable of trash talking on "X", nothing else. So I don’t think the keyboard warriors are actually real fans.

I think Canelo is going to win against Charlo. Of course, this is not 100% certain. But I think that is going to be the end result of that fight.

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Quote from: Iranus on September 14, 2023, 10:45:54 AM

Quote from: Kasabus on September 13, 2023, 11:36:01 AM

Quote from: Iranus on September 11, 2023, 08:47:27 AM

Canelo will definitely be favoured by the fans. And it is absolutely true that a lot of people know him, even the casual fans as well. But Crawford especially when compared to Canelo is definitely a little less popular in my opinion. But just because we are comparing which fighter is going to have bigger support, does not mean that the fight is not going to be interesting. The fight is really going to be interesting and both of them will be able to bring a lot of people to see this fight. It is I think we can say that this is a much-anticipated fight and the pay-per-view is surly going to be big for this one, if this happens, of course.

There is no need to have such comparison because we all know that Canelo have his whole country to back him in every fight he had, and he will have in the future while Crawford doesn't have that much as the whole USA is somehow divided because they also have their own picks and some of the fans from the US are also backing Canelo.

If only this fight will be determined by how many fans they have, I won't be surprised if Canelo got twice or thrice than Crawford. But since it won't be judged that way, there is only one way to find out and that is to let this two fight.

If these two end up fighting, it is surely going to be a bigger support for Canelo. And that is probably going to give him a good boost of confidence. Definitely, he is going to be the better fighter if this fight happens. But that is the bigger question, if this fight is going to happen or not.

The people in the USA cannot even decide if they are a man or a woman. And how can they decide which fighter to support? LOL. Jokes aside, I am not saying that people cannot have preferences of their own. But the people of the USA are not such a big fan of Crawford, as the Mexican people support Canelo.

It's totally different though in the US specially in boxing since they have a lot of good fighters, and countries like Mexico, Puerto Rico or even Philippines really support their boxers no matter what.
So I do agree that Mexico is still behind Canelo even if others think that he is sliding down a bit, just like Manny Pacquaio during his reign.
There will be time that Father time will caught up with this legendary boxers, but still the fans and the whole nation will be behind them.
As for Crawford, he will have his die hard fans, just like what they show in the Spence fight.
And some of them might be keyboard warriors too. But we will have to wait what will be the results of Canelo vs Charlo fight first.

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Quote from: Kasabus on September 13, 2023, 11:36:01 AM

Quote from: Iranus on September 11, 2023, 08:47:27 AM

Canelo will definitely be favoured by the fans. And it is absolutely true that a lot of people know him, even the casual fans as well. But Crawford especially when compared to Canelo is definitely a little less popular in my opinion. But just because we are comparing which fighter is going to have bigger support, does not mean that the fight is not going to be interesting. The fight is really going to be interesting and both of them will be able to bring a lot of people to see this fight. It is I think we can say that this is a much-anticipated fight and the pay-per-view is surly going to be big for this one, if this happens, of course.

There is no need to have such comparison because we all know that Canelo have his whole country to back him in every fight he had, and he will have in the future while Crawford doesn't have that much as the whole USA is somehow divided because they also have their own picks and some of the fans from the US are also backing Canelo.

If only this fight will be determined by how many fans they have, I won't be surprised if Canelo got twice or thrice than Crawford. But since it won't be judged that way, there is only one way to find out and that is to let this two fight.

If these two end up fighting, it is surely going to be a bigger support for Canelo. And that is probably going to give him a good boost of confidence. Definitely, he is going to be the better fighter if this fight happens. But that is the bigger question, if this fight is going to happen or not.

The people in the USA cannot even decide if they are a man or a woman. And how can they decide which fighter to support? LOL. Jokes aside, I am not saying that people cannot have preferences of their own. But the people of the USA are not such a big fan of Crawford, as the Mexican people support Canelo.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 14, 2023, 06:09:13 AM

@Baofeng, Shakur Stevenson has a new opponent bro, maybe you can unlock your thread and change the opponent to Edwin De Los Santos as we already have more than 5 pages i think on that discussion hehe.

Though not like Martin who is undefeated, De Los Santos packs a punch as he KOed 14 of his 17 opponents, not bad opponent for Shakur though.

https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-i-believe-de-los-santos-better-fighter-frank-martin--177704

Shakur acknowledges that De Los Santos is the better fighter than Martin, so I guess this will be a fun match to watch. His opponent is also young, at just 23 years of age, and I'm sure he has enough stamina to go toe-to-toe with Shakur Stevenson in a 12-round fight. I hope he will be able to land solid punches so Shakur stops running and they can engage in a more direct fight. Is that even possible?

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September 30, 2023. Las Vegas, Nevada. Canelo Alvarez versus Jermell Charlo. 2 more weeks and we will witness another great fight in the boxing ring.
It is said that Charlo is preparing so hard for this upcoming fight but we all know Canelo is always ready for anyone.

Here he discusses some things about Charlo, number 1 pound for pound, and retirement.
Canelo Alvarez admits he is not the only one who can be called the 'best boxer in the world'
https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2023/09/13/6501806f46163f10038b45a1.html

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"You know, I think we all deserve being number one pound-for-pound. I think it's (dis)respect to put somebody at the top because, you know, you have Inoue, you have Crawford, you have Usyk, you have a lot of great fighters out there. And I think we all deserve being the number one," he said.

I agree with him on this. Pound-for-pound champions in their own divisions. They should not be ranked against other weight class. Truly, Inoue is also one in his own division.

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"His biggest weapon is everything, he can punch, he can take a punch, he can move too and he's tall; I think he has it all, but I'm used to fighting in all styles and I'm ready!" he said.

This guy could be more difficult than John Ryder because Ryder didn't really punch too many in the first half of their fight although I am really amazed at how strong his chin is.

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"I think I have at least four more years left, maybe five. I've been a professional boxer since I was 15 years old. That's almost 18 years of fighting professionally. I always said I would retire when I was 36. Or 37, around that age. That should be more than enough, that's so many years of boxing. By then, I'll have achieved a lot of things and then I'll have to enjoy life with the family and everything," he said.

Still a long way. 4 years. There could be a lot of things that could happen in his career especially if all his title will be taken from him. It will give him a boost to try and win it back although the chances of that happening is low.

So who's your bet?

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@Baofeng, Shakur Stevenson has a new opponent bro, maybe you can unlock your thread and change the opponent to Edwin De Los Santos as we already have more than 5 pages i think on that discussion hehe.

Though not like Martin who is undefeated, De Los Santos packs a punch as he KOed 14 of his 17 opponents, not bad opponent for Shakur though.

https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-i-believe-de-los-santos-better-fighter-frank-martin--177704

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Quote from: Iranus on September 11, 2023, 08:47:27 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on September 11, 2023, 07:18:01 AM

Quote from: yazher on September 10, 2023, 06:57:18 PM

Quote from: carlisle1 on September 10, 2023, 05:25:02 PM

Same with you, Canelo's fan based might bring that money plus the fact that interest if how Crawford will try to snatch the belt under Canelos possession.

We need more updates regarding to any possibility of this possible match up to take place,.

Yeah! you're right because this is the right time to make that fight happen cause Crawford is at the peak of his career and popularity which is why they need to look for a bigger stadium next time in order to make it a real historical event in the boxing history. This is how it should be, no drama whatsoever unlike with Spence they took a long time before they finally stepped in the ring. Crawford wants to make it happen, then Canelo should win his fight and then make Crawford's dreams come true.

It will still Canelo though as the A-side if he decided to fight Crawford.
Because it's obvious that he can still bring fans to whatever stadium is it and so it will result in a good live gate numbers.
Not saying that Crawford can't bring fans, but we all know that he hasn't had that following for casual fans, only hardcore boxing fans are familiar with him.
But the likes of Canelo wherein the whole country is behind it, he is really huge for the last 5 years or so.
And with that, the numbers, PPV and live gate will be very big if ever this fight is going to happen in the next coming months.

Canelo will definitely be favoured by the fans. And it is absolutely true that a lot of people know him, even the casual fans as well. But Crawford especially when compared to Canelo is definitely a little less popular in my opinion. But just because we are comparing which fighter is going to have bigger support, does not mean that the fight is not going to be interesting. The fight is really going to be interesting and both of them will be able to bring a lot of people to see this fight. It is I think we can say that this is a much-anticipated fight and the pay-per-view is surly going to be big for this one, if this happens, of course.

There is no need to have such comparison because we all know that Canelo have his whole country to back him in every fight he had, and he will have in the future while Crawford doesn't have that much as the whole USA is somehow divided because they also have their own picks and some of the fans from the US are also backing Canelo.

If only this fight will be determined by how many fans they have, I won't be surprised if Canelo got twice or thrice than Crawford. But since it won't be judged that way, there is only one way to find out and that is to let this two fight.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on September 12, 2023, 11:48:01 PM

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Quote from: mirakal on September 10, 2023, 09:30:41 AM

We thought that the Crawford vs Spence might be a much bigger fight than Garcia vs Davis but when it comes to PPV buys, their digits aren't really close to somehow chase the latter's fight on what they did. But yes, I agree, if ever a Crawford vs Canelo fight will happen, there is a good chance that it will be much bigger than them and it could be the biggest fight of the decade as well. How's that?

Yeah, the hypes of Spence vs Crawford are not that much compared with Davis and Garcia. Personal thought is because fans ain't interested
with Spence dramas, it has been long delayed.

Same with you, Canelo's fan based might bring that money plus the fact that interest if how Crawford will try to snatch the belt under Canelos possession.

We need more updates regarding to any possibility of this possible match up to take place,.

It's hard to argue that there are so many people who have lost interest with Spence, he can say that it wasn't his decision, and it was Al Haymon's, but they belong in the same roof so it's just the same. The fact that they toyed Crawford for some years is already a red flag for some fans because if they have no intentions at all, they shouldn't give Crawford some hope because the man has been idle for chasing them.

Right now, there are only speculations on what could happen if Crawford and Canelo will agree to share the same ring but in reality, both camps aren't engaged in talks because both of them still have their own upcoming fight. Maybe soon, 1st or 2nd quarter next year.

Yes, they both need to focus on their own respective upcoming fights. It's just a speculation and more on trying to see if interest
from viewers and fans, will start to flow and call for the negotiation.

I like the point that if ever they open that possibility, there are fans who are interested in watching it and maybe they can bring more money
from their respective pockets.

Money wise, both camps will show interest. They are both passing their primes better to make money while it's still possible to earn more.

If both of them will win their respective fights which are very likely by the way, a hype will automatically then surround their name to call for a match-up between both of them. I have no doubts about that as both of their names are respective enough and people will want to see it to see who will dominate who and if Crawford will win, he got a chance to make another name for himself and achieve a feat that is touted to be unbreakable, come to think of that, a boxer who is a 3x undisputed champion in three separate weight classes.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on September 13, 2023, 01:25:13 AM

Quote from: carlisle1 on September 10, 2023, 05:25:02 PM

Quote from: mirakal on September 10, 2023, 09:30:41 AM

We thought that the Crawford vs Spence might be a much bigger fight than Garcia vs Davis but when it comes to PPV buys, their digits aren't really close to somehow chase the latter's fight on what they did. But yes, I agree, if ever a Crawford vs Canelo fight will happen, there is a good chance that it will be much bigger than them and it could be the biggest fight of the decade as well. How's that?

Yeah, the hypes of Spence vs Crawford are not that much compared with Davis and Garcia. Personal thought is because fans ain't interested
with Spence dramas, it has been long delayed.

Same with you, Canelo's fan based might bring that money plus the fact that interest if how Crawford will try to snatch the belt under Canelos possession.

We need more updates regarding to any possibility of this possible match up to take place,.

Davis and Garcia are two favorite fighters with undefeated records so it natural that their hype is bigger than Spence vs Crawford.
But in the last meeting Davis and Garcia ended in a very fierce battle and the two of them fought in a very epic way where they threw hook punches to knock each other out and in the end Davis managed to make a fatal hook which made Garcia fall to the ground in pain until the referee decided not to continue the fight and Davis earned a knockout win over Garcia.

Canelo Alvarez himself will fight against Jermell Charlo on September 30 for the super middleweight belt and Crawford stated that he would be a challenger for the winner of that fight and Crawford is preparing to move up in weight and jump to super middleweight to fight for the title in that class.

I don't know what the certainty of Crawford statement is but it seems difficult for him to easily take over the super middleweight class in his first fight when this wish is actually achieved.

Tank Davis is just at the same level as Errol Spence in terms of fan base and popularity. The difference is Ryan Garcia is not just a popular prospect but is also a social media influencer. Terrence Crawford's previous PPV numbers were inferior to Spence's. So it was kind of expected from the start that they wouldn't be breaking the Tank-Kingry PPV buys. I don't see anything special during the Tank-Kingry fight. They're both not world champions and the fight was not a title fight. It was no epic and it will be forgotten in the years to come. It's just that their duel was able to take the casuals hence the figures but the Bud-Spence fight will always be remembered in the years to come.

I think Canelo is still the biggest name in the sport so he and Bud will most likely reach a million PPV buys. But the Canelo-Jermell this month-end I also doubt that the fight will reach a million PPV buys.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on September 10, 2023, 05:25:02 PM

Quote from: mirakal on September 10, 2023, 09:30:41 AM

We thought that the Crawford vs Spence might be a much bigger fight than Garcia vs Davis but when it comes to PPV buys, their digits aren't really close to somehow chase the latter's fight on what they did. But yes, I agree, if ever a Crawford vs Canelo fight will happen, there is a good chance that it will be much bigger than them and it could be the biggest fight of the decade as well. How's that?

Yeah, the hypes of Spence vs Crawford are not that much compared with Davis and Garcia. Personal thought is because fans ain't interested
with Spence dramas, it has been long delayed.

Same with you, Canelo's fan based might bring that money plus the fact that interest if how Crawford will try to snatch the belt under Canelos possession.

We need more updates regarding to any possibility of this possible match up to take place,.

Davis and Garcia are two favorite fighters with undefeated records so it natural that their hype is bigger than Spence vs Crawford.
But in the last meeting Davis and Garcia ended in a very fierce battle and the two of them fought in a very epic way where they threw hook punches to knock each other out and in the end Davis managed to make a fatal hook which made Garcia fall to the ground in pain until the referee decided not to continue the fight and Davis earned a knockout win over Garcia.

Canelo Alvarez himself will fight against Jermell Charlo on September 30 for the super middleweight belt and Crawford stated that he would be a challenger for the winner of that fight and Crawford is preparing to move up in weight and jump to super middleweight to fight for the title in that class.

I don't know what the certainty of Crawford statement is but it seems difficult for him to easily take over the super middleweight class in his first fight when this wish is actually achieved.

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Quote from: Finestream on September 12, 2023, 09:47:16 AM

Quote from: carlisle1 on September 10, 2023, 05:25:02 PM

Quote from: mirakal on September 10, 2023, 09:30:41 AM

We thought that the Crawford vs Spence might be a much bigger fight than Garcia vs Davis but when it comes to PPV buys, their digits aren't really close to somehow chase the latter's fight on what they did. But yes, I agree, if ever a Crawford vs Canelo fight will happen, there is a good chance that it will be much bigger than them and it could be the biggest fight of the decade as well. How's that?

Yeah, the hypes of Spence vs Crawford are not that much compared with Davis and Garcia. Personal thought is because fans ain't interested
with Spence dramas, it has been long delayed.

Same with you, Canelo's fan based might bring that money plus the fact that interest if how Crawford will try to snatch the belt under Canelos possession.

We need more updates regarding to any possibility of this possible match up to take place,.

It's hard to argue that there are so many people who have lost interest with Spence, he can say that it wasn't his decision, and it was Al Haymon's, but they belong in the same roof so it's just the same. The fact that they toyed Crawford for some years is already a red flag for some fans because if they have no intentions at all, they shouldn't give Crawford some hope because the man has been idle for chasing them.

Right now, there are only speculations on what could happen if Crawford and Canelo will agree to share the same ring but in reality, both camps aren't engaged in talks because both of them still have their own upcoming fight. Maybe soon, 1st or 2nd quarter next year.

Yes, they both need to focus on their own respective upcoming fights. It's just a speculation and more on trying to see if interest
from viewers and fans, will start to flow and call for the negotiation.

I like the point that if ever they open that possibility, there are fans who are interested in watching it and maybe they can bring more money
from their respective pockets.

Money wise, both camps will show interest. They are both passing their primes better to make money while it's still possible to earn more.

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Quote from: Kemarit on September 11, 2023, 07:18:01 AM

Quote from: yazher on September 10, 2023, 06:57:18 PM

Quote from: carlisle1 on September 10, 2023, 05:25:02 PM

Same with you, Canelo's fan based might bring that money plus the fact that interest if how Crawford will try to snatch the belt under Canelos possession.

We need more updates regarding to any possibility of this possible match up to take place,.

Yeah! you're right because this is the right time to make that fight happen cause Crawford is at the peak of his career and popularity which is why they need to look for a bigger stadium next time in order to make it a real historical event in the boxing history. This is how it should be, no drama whatsoever unlike with Spence they took a long time before they finally stepped in the ring. Crawford wants to make it happen, then Canelo should win his fight and then make Crawford's dreams come true.

It will still Canelo though as the A-side if he decided to fight Crawford.
Because it's obvious that he can still bring fans to whatever stadium is it and so it will result in a good live gate numbers.
Not saying that Crawford can't bring fans, but we all know that he hasn't had that following for casual fans, only hardcore boxing fans are familiar with him.
But the likes of Canelo wherein the whole country is behind it, he is really huge for the last 5 years or so.
And with that, the numbers, PPV and live gate will be very big if ever this fight is going to happen in the next coming months.

That is not a problem for Terence Crawford, let's not forget that the man was even ready to accept as low as 30% share just to make the Spence vs Crawford undisputed fight to reality. But even that, it wasn't enough to have an agreement as it almost took another year for them to finally agree on something and decided to materialized it. So in this case, I don't think that Crawford will heed for a much bigger money/share as he know that Canelo will always move a country in his fights.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on September 10, 2023, 05:25:02 PM

Quote from: mirakal on September 10, 2023, 09:30:41 AM

We thought that the Crawford vs Spence might be a much bigger fight than Garcia vs Davis but when it comes to PPV buys, their digits aren't really close to somehow chase the latter's fight on what they did. But yes, I agree, if ever a Crawford vs Canelo fight will happen, there is a good chance that it will be much bigger than them and it could be the biggest fight of the decade as well. How's that?

Yeah, the hypes of Spence vs Crawford are not that much compared with Davis and Garcia. Personal thought is because fans ain't interested
with Spence dramas, it has been long delayed.

Same with you, Canelo's fan based might bring that money plus the fact that interest if how Crawford will try to snatch the belt under Canelos possession.

We need more updates regarding to any possibility of this possible match up to take place,.

It's hard to argue that there are so many people who have lost interest with Spence, he can say that it wasn't his decision, and it was Al Haymon's, but they belong in the same roof so it's just the same. The fact that they toyed Crawford for some years is already a red flag for some fans because if they have no intentions at all, they shouldn't give Crawford some hope because the man has been idle for chasing them.

Right now, there are only speculations on what could happen if Crawford and Canelo will agree to share the same ring but in reality, both camps aren't engaged in talks because both of them still have their own upcoming fight. Maybe soon, 1st or 2nd quarter next year.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on September 10, 2023, 05:25:02 PM

Quote from: mirakal on September 10, 2023, 09:30:41 AM

We thought that the Crawford vs Spence might be a much bigger fight than Garcia vs Davis but when it comes to PPV buys, their digits aren't really close to somehow chase the latter's fight on what they did. But yes, I agree, if ever a Crawford vs Canelo fight will happen, there is a good chance that it will be much bigger than them and it could be the biggest fight of the decade as well. How's that?

Yeah, the hypes of Spence vs Crawford are not that much compared with Davis and Garcia. Personal thought is because fans ain't interested
with Spence dramas, it has been long delayed.

Same with you, Canelo's fan based might bring that money plus the fact that interest if how Crawford will try to snatch the belt under Canelos possession.

We need more updates regarding to any possibility of this possible match up to take place,.

I think the money gained in PPV in the Garcia versus Davis fight was also because of them. They did a lot of social media interaction and they let the fans also fight on social media over who's the stronger puncher between them. Then, they spiced things up with a side bet but we all know it is just for the show. All in all, they did great at making both sides of fans more active and they top the trend because of it.
While Spence versus Crawford doesn't really have that. And yes I agree with you, there's too much drama on Spence, and while Garcia versus Davis was all about who is the one punch man. Grin

It will be difficult to top the amount they made, I think that's one of the highest-paid PPVs and one of the most expensive too. Cry

About Canelo, his fan based is already wide so it will depend on Crawford's interaction to boost things up. Make something happen to increase the number of viewers.

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Quote from: Kemarit on September 11, 2023, 07:18:01 AM

Quote from: yazher on September 10, 2023, 06:57:18 PM

Quote from: carlisle1 on September 10, 2023, 05:25:02 PM

Same with you, Canelo's fan based might bring that money plus the fact that interest if how Crawford will try to snatch the belt under Canelos possession.

We need more updates regarding to any possibility of this possible match up to take place,.

Yeah! you're right because this is the right time to make that fight happen cause Crawford is at the peak of his career and popularity which is why they need to look for a bigger stadium next time in order to make it a real historical event in the boxing history. This is how it should be, no drama whatsoever unlike with Spence they took a long time before they finally stepped in the ring. Crawford wants to make it happen, then Canelo should win his fight and then make Crawford's dreams come true.

It will still Canelo though as the A-side if he decided to fight Crawford.
Because it's obvious that he can still bring fans to whatever stadium is it and so it will result in a good live gate numbers.
Not saying that Crawford can't bring fans, but we all know that he hasn't had that following for casual fans, only hardcore boxing fans are familiar with him.
But the likes of Canelo wherein the whole country is behind it, he is really huge for the last 5 years or so.
And with that, the numbers, PPV and live gate will be very big if ever this fight is going to happen in the next coming months.

Canelo will definitely be favoured by the fans. And it is absolutely true that a lot of people know him, even the casual fans as well. But Crawford especially when compared to Canelo is definitely a little less popular in my opinion. But just because we are comparing which fighter is going to have bigger support, does not mean that the fight is not going to be interesting. The fight is really going to be interesting and both of them will be able to bring a lot of people to see this fight. It is I think we can say that this is a much-anticipated fight and the pay-per-view is surly going to be big for this one, if this happens, of course.

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Quote from: yazher on September 10, 2023, 06:57:18 PM

Quote from: carlisle1 on September 10, 2023, 05:25:02 PM

Same with you, Canelo's fan based might bring that money plus the fact that interest if how Crawford will try to snatch the belt under Canelos possession.

We need more updates regarding to any possibility of this possible match up to take place,.

Yeah! you're right because this is the right time to make that fight happen cause Crawford is at the peak of his career and popularity which is why they need to look for a bigger stadium next time in order to make it a real historical event in the boxing history. This is how it should be, no drama whatsoever unlike with Spence they took a long time before they finally stepped in the ring. Crawford wants to make it happen, then Canelo should win his fight and then make Crawford's dreams come true.

It will still Canelo though as the A-side if he decided to fight Crawford.
Because it's obvious that he can still bring fans to whatever stadium is it and so it will result in a good live gate numbers.
Not saying that Crawford can't bring fans, but we all know that he hasn't had that following for casual fans, only hardcore boxing fans are familiar with him.
But the likes of Canelo wherein the whole country is behind it, he is really huge for the last 5 years or so.
And with that, the numbers, PPV and live gate will be very big if ever this fight is going to happen in the next coming months.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on September 10, 2023, 05:25:02 PM

Same with you, Canelo's fan based might bring that money plus the fact that interest if how Crawford will try to snatch the belt under Canelos possession.

We need more updates regarding to any possibility of this possible match up to take place,.

Yeah! you're right because this is the right time to make that fight happen cause Crawford is at the peak of his career and popularity which is why they need to look for a bigger stadium next time in order to make it a real historical event in the boxing history. This is how it should be, no drama whatsoever unlike with Spence they took a long time before they finally stepped in the ring. Crawford wants to make it happen, then Canelo should win his fight and then make Crawford's dreams come true.

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Quote from: mirakal on September 10, 2023, 09:30:41 AM

We thought that the Crawford vs Spence might be a much bigger fight than Garcia vs Davis but when it comes to PPV buys, their digits aren't really close to somehow chase the latter's fight on what they did. But yes, I agree, if ever a Crawford vs Canelo fight will happen, there is a good chance that it will be much bigger than them and it could be the biggest fight of the decade as well. How's that?

Yeah, the hypes of Spence vs Crawford are not that much compared with Davis and Garcia. Personal thought is because fans ain't interested
with Spence dramas, it has been long delayed.

Same with you, Canelo's fan based might bring that money plus the fact that interest if how Crawford will try to snatch the belt under Canelos possession.

We need more updates regarding to any possibility of this possible match up to take place,.

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Quote from: jakelyson on September 10, 2023, 10:27:23 AM

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Anyone heard about Manny Pacquiao coming out of the retirement to compete in the 2024 Olympics in Paris?
It's crazy! well, Manny have done a lot of crazy things before and I don't know how they are going to pull this one up to make it happen when the qualifying event in Asian games for 2024 Olympics only allows 40 yrs old age limit for all of the sport. Pacquiao being 44 won't gonna qualify in the Asian games. Though there might be some arrangements for Pacquiao to qualify in the Olympics but it is for sure going to be the hardest part.

For sure he is exploring ways to get into the Olympics but for this news to be true it was really crazy, Manny Pacquiao might be bored not doing anything aside from boxing for sure he really wants a legitimate thing to get him into qualifying, for sure this is not about money anymore for competing in an Olympics it is voluntary and for sure Manny Pacquiao if not represent his country he just wants to fight,

I believe Manny is doing this because of Legacy. Aside from being the 8 Division Champion, the 4 decade bocxng champion and a politician, Manny wanted to get the Olympic boxing gold medal to add on his collections of achievement. About the age limit, it was stated that there is no specific age limit for taking part in the Olympic games[1]

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on September 02, 2023, 04:38:26 PM

Yeah, maybe he just want to boost his popularity again, or he really misses boxing and this is the best thing for him again, represents his country in the Olympics and bring glory. But as far his political ambitions goes, he once run for the President in the last election and lost it.

So he had higher goals, but he failed to win his bid. But I don't think if ever he pursue this goal of his to be given special treatment and just be qualified to be in the Paris Olympics. And if I'm not mistaken, he had a son who is also in boxing, so why not just train him if the goal of Manny is to bring honor to his country? At least it will be his son this time.

For sure It is not to boost his popularity just like Mike Tyson everybody that sees him will surely notice him instantly For sure it is your 2nd guess that he really misses boxing so much and that he is weakening whenever he is not training and fighting inside the ring, for me Manny Pacquiao can do what he pleases but for sure with proper rules to follow but if he is not qualified to fight for the Olympics then I think Sparring is great for her for sure,

I believe he is adding a net worth on himself, reason why he is aiming for the Olympic Gold Medal. I also think that boosting his popularity is part of the plan why Manny Pacquiao wanted to fight in Olympic aiming for boxing gold medal.

I do not think Manny's age will be an issue unless the Olympic has set an age limit in boxing.

[1] https://olympics.com/ioc/faq/competing-and-being-part-of-the-games/what-is-the-age-limit-for-taking-part-in-the-olympic-games

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