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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on August 20, 2023, 03:30:24 PM

There is this news circulating in the net today that the 8 world division champion Manny Pacquiao will have an exhibition match against a Thai Boxing Legend Buakaw Banchamek. It was reveal that the $25m exhibition fights will have a six rounds of boxing and they will be fighting @ 154 lbs. There is a belt at stake here called WBC Legend Belt and will be given to whomever won the fight. Though it has not been confirmed whether it will be considered a professional fight or an exhibition fight.

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I love the exhibition match between the two legends, however, not sure about the WBC creating a belt of this fight? We already know that this two are legends in their own field but for me there's no need to create hype and make a belt out of it.

I don't think this will be considered as pro fights as both are into two different sports and Pacman will be at a disadvantage of Buakaw or the rules will allow him to used his fight. This is going to be a standard boxing match just like any other exhibitions that we have seen between a boxer and former MMA fighter.

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There is this news circulating in the net today that the 8 world division champion Manny Pacquiao will have an exhibition match against a Thai Boxing Legend Buakaw Banchamek. It was reveal that the $25m exhibition fights will have a six rounds of boxing and they will be fighting @ 154 lbs. There is a belt at stake here called WBC Legend Belt and will be given to whomever won the fight. Though it has not been confirmed whether it will be considered a professional fight or an exhibition fight.

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This is interesting knowing there are lots of Pacquiao's fans who will surely support this fight, we know his greatness when he still dominating the ring and now that there's a fight whether an exhibition or a title even it will still be supported by people who love seeing him fighting, though as per my opinion it would be great if that's a title fight that will soon add more challenger to compete with the belt.

Yes, and if you follow Manny's social media, he is like a ambassador or something because he traveled a lot together with Jinky. He was in the fight of Inoue in Japan and a week after in the Crawford vs Spence fight wherein there was a lot of pictures of him with other great boxers like MAB and Erik Morales and others.

and as far as the money goes, it looks like the pot is $25M but not sure if it is will be split two ways or Pacquiao getting the lion share as Buakaw is also a legend in contact sports, but Manny is different as he is the A-side here. But in any case, good to see the Manny will be back in the ring again. For sure his fans are going to love this news.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on August 20, 2023, 03:30:24 PM

There is this news circulating in the net today that the 8 world division champion Manny Pacquiao will have an exhibition match against a Thai Boxing Legend Buakaw Banchamek. It was reveal that the $25m exhibition fights will have a six rounds of boxing and they will be fighting @ 154 lbs. There is a belt at stake here called WBC Legend Belt and will be given to whomever won the fight. Though it has not been confirmed whether it will be considered a professional fight or an exhibition fight.

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This is interesting knowing there are lots of Pacquiao's fans who will surely support this fight, we know his greatness when he still dominating the ring and now that there's a fight whether an exhibition or a title even it will still be supported by people who love seeing him fighting, though as per my opinion it would be great if that's a title fight that will soon add more challenger to compete with the belt.

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There is this news circulating in the net today that the 8 world division champion Manny Pacquiao will have an exhibition match against a Thai Boxing Legend Buakaw Banchamek. It was reveal that the $25m exhibition fights will have a six rounds of boxing and they will be fighting @ 154 lbs. There is a belt at stake here called WBC Legend Belt and will be given to whomever won the fight. Though it has not been confirmed whether it will be considered a professional fight or an exhibition fight.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on August 20, 2023, 04:32:01 AM

Rolly cannot hold his belt for long because he is the easiest of all the champions. Maybe what PBC wants here is to let another PBC fighter take the belt rather than lost it to rival networks and promotions. Ohara is now with GBP and DAZN so Al Hymen is trying to manipulate the system once again.

For sure Rolando Romero doesn't know what he is talking about, that he can attain a level like Manny Pacquiao he looks like he has Autism sorry about people that has Autism I surely never view this kind of thing negatively but Rolando Romero is like an Autistic dude that still remained in his childish ways, for sure if he fought Ryan Garcia this will surely end his reign for sure,

Quote from: inthelongrun on August 20, 2023, 04:32:01 AM

Because Tapology is an MMA page and not even a boxing page so you'd be lucky to find fights that aren't from big boxing networks; i.e., DAZN, ESPN, and Showtime. There are many non-title fights for the rest of the month that are mostly available thru live streaming. Next weekend there is a title fight between the WBA minimumweight champion Oscar Collazo against Filipino contender Garen Diagan and this will be shown thru DAZN from Puerto Rico the champion's hometown.

https://box.live/upcoming-fights-schedule/

Tapology Might be an MMA page but you can surely see some boxing events that have more advanced information than the ESPN information, after hearing about the Oscar Collazo VS Garen Diagan fight I have to search for it there in Topology, and the fight will be on August 26, and a Golden Boy Promotions fight

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Quote from: Kemarit on August 20, 2023, 04:55:09 AM

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^ We will see if Rolly Romero did have injuries or clearly ducking his mandatory in Ohara Davies.

I have to check Ohara Davies resume and boxrec though to check if indeed why Romero sense to be avoiding him (doesn't make sense), since he fought Tank Davis already, in short he has the balls so why now?

72 hours means it should be US time by Monday and by the following day we will know if he has suffered injuries or not or will be stripped of his newbly WBA belt at 140 lbs.

Most likely it's a duck to me, he has been ordered by the WBA and yet it seems that Oscar and the governing body itself can't find Rolly?
Where is he hiding now? he is a big mouth and loves media attention, you can check his videos on youtube and other interviews.
But suddenly he went MIA, and it's good that he has been given at least 72 hours to explain everything and hopefully WBA will be fair to give Ohara Davies his time and crack for the belt. It's about time that they should enforce the mandatory specially in lesser body like the WBA. In they were able to do this, then for sure they could at least have the balls to tell Rolly to defend the belt and/or push a schedule already.

I'm not sure why he's ducking though but I think he's quite afraid that Ohara Davis will deliver his second loss as the man is more experienced and also a KO artist. And we know that he can't quite handle that as he was still healing from his loss against Tank Davis whom he though that he could actually take down just because Mayweather believes in him, but in the reality, Mayweather just delivered him to take a chance because that was Tank's last fight under Mayweather's banner.

Hopefully he will show his face rather than getting stripped without explaining and proving himself. He still have less 72 hours to think now and hopefully he will use that time to weigh the things more carefully.

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Quote from: btc_angela on August 20, 2023, 03:04:48 AM

^ We will see if Rolly Romero did have injuries or clearly ducking his mandatory in Ohara Davies.

I have to check Ohara Davies resume and boxrec though to check if indeed why Romero sense to be avoiding him (doesn't make sense), since he fought Tank Davis already, in short he has the balls so why now?

72 hours means it should be US time by Monday and by the following day we will know if he has suffered injuries or not or will be stripped of his newbly WBA belt at 140 lbs.

Most likely it's a duck to me, he has been ordered by the WBA and yet it seems that Oscar and the governing body itself can't find Rolly?
Where is he hiding now? he is a big mouth and loves media attention, you can check his videos on youtube and other interviews.
But suddenly he went MIA, and it's good that he has been given at least 72 hours to explain everything and hopefully WBA will be fair to give Ohara Davies his time and crack for the belt. It's about time that they should enforce the mandatory specially in lesser body like the WBA. In they were able to do this, then for sure they could at least have the balls to tell Rolly to defend the belt and/or push a schedule already.

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Quote from: btc_angela on August 20, 2023, 03:04:48 AM

^ We will see if Rolly Romero did have injuries or clearly ducking his mandatory in Ohara Davies.

I have to check Ohara Davies resume and boxrec though to check if indeed why Romero sense to be avoiding him (doesn't make sense), since he fought Tank Davis already, in short he has the balls so why now?

72 hours means it should be US time by Monday and by the following day we will know if he has suffered injuries or not or will be stripped of his newbly WBA belt at 140 lbs.

Seriously mate, having an injury is Rolly's excuse? Cheesy

We'll see if PBC sent enough money to the WBA to deny Ohara Davies a title shot. Rolly along with Teofimo Lopez are the biggest names among the beltholders at 140. The problem though is Teofimo is a proven tough champion while Rolly was just spoonfed of that WBA belt against a very old guy who should've pulled the upset if not for controversial officiating.

Rolly cannot hold his belt for long because he is the easiest of all the champions. Maybe what PBC wants here is to let another PBC fighter take the belt rather than lost it to rival networks and promotions. Ohara is now with GBP and DAZN so Al Hymen is trying to manipulate the system once again.

Quote from: jakelyson on August 19, 2023, 01:14:47 PM

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Because Tapology is an MMA page and not even a boxing page so you'd be lucky to find fights that aren't from big boxing networks; i.e., DAZN, ESPN, and Showtime. There are many non-title fights for the rest of the month that are mostly available thru live streaming. Next weekend there is a title fight between the WBA minimumweight champion Oscar Collazo against Filipino contender Garen Diagan and this will be shown thru DAZN from Puerto Rico the champion's hometown.

https://box.live/upcoming-fights-schedule/

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^ We will see if Rolly Romero did have injuries or clearly ducking his mandatory in Ohara Davies.

I have to check Ohara Davies resume and boxrec though to check if indeed why Romero sense to be avoiding him (doesn't make sense), since he fought Tank Davis already, in short he has the balls so why now?

72 hours means it should be US time by Monday and by the following day we will know if he has suffered injuries or not or will be stripped of his newbly WBA belt at 140 lbs.

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It seems that Oscar wanted to go to legal actions here:

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The Hall of Fame former six-division titlist is prepared to take legal action to protect the rights of England’s Ohara Davies, the top-rated WBA junior welterweight contender who Golden Boy Promotions signed earlier this spring. Davies was named mandatory challenger to current titlist Rolando ‘Rolly’ Romero, for which a purse bid hearing was indefinitely postponed as the sanctioning body will review medical documents provided on July 21 by Romero’s team.

https://www.boxingscene.com/de-la-hoya-demands-answers-threatens-legal-action-enforce-romero-davies-wba-mandatory-title-fight--177011

He wanted to have his bod, Ohara Davies to fight current WBA 140 lbs champion in Rolly Romero. But it seems there is a delay from the governing body to issue a mandatory fight and Oscar is eager for the WBA to give it to them. It was ordered already that a fight is to be made and maybe this is the contention of Oscar that's why he goes on legal actions to forced WBA to commit to it.

He has the right, and I believe he knows himself well enough to expect a victory in this battle. Furthermore, there's money at stake in this championship fight. Not only that, if his fighter defeats Rolly, it will open up even bigger opportunities for them to maximize their earnings. So, if I understand it correctly, there's a delay in the fight; it's not completely canceled yet. Oscar's camp simply wants to ensure that the fight will happen by setting a specific date.

For a businessman like him, waiting for nothing is just a wasted opportunity, so he wants to enforce what is due to happen.

Ok it looks like the WBA doesn't want to go to court and so they are going to force Rolly Romero till Monday to let them know if he is injured or not or fight his mandatory.

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Rolando Romero has until the end of business Monday to either show proof of injury or honor his mandatory title defense obligation.

Failure by Romero to comply either with the medical request or the demand to next face Davies could result in his being stripped of the title.

https://www.boxingscene.com/rolando-romero-issued-hard-deadline-submit-proof-injury-ahead-mandatory-title-defense--177072

So it's good to finally see some movement regarding Romero vs Davies. And obviously, if Rolly is just taking time not to defend his belt against the mandatory then he should be stripped of his belt and make it vacant so the next rank fighters can duke it out.

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Seriously right now I am searching for Boxing events that feature Filipino Fighters on it, and I came across this event in Tapology there are two Filipino fighters that will be fighting, and 1 is a main event surely this is not a well-known fight but surely this is for the Filipino Citizen,

Lifetime Boxing Fights 16

DATE: Thursday 08.24.2023
TIME: 08:00 AM ET

MAIN EVENT
Yoshimitsu Kimura vs Jestine Tesoro

MAIN CARD
Jakpan Sangtong vs Ryota Yamauchi
Toshihiro Suzuki vs Virgel Vitor
Yasuomi Soda vs Taiga Ito
Ryan Joshua Yamamoto vs Daiki Sakamoto
Yuma Aiba vs Yamato Uehara

Information was from Tapology: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/104087-lifetime-boxing-fights-16

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Joshua’s Promoter Giving Wilder Negotiations 2 To 3 Weeks Or AJ Will Fight In Nov Or Dec

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By Jake Tiernan: Eddie Hearn has put a 2 to 3-week timeframe for when he wants the Deontay Wilder fight wrapped up for Anthony Joshua’s mega-fight in January in Saudi Arabia. Hearn says if it’s not completed within two or three weeks, he could start looking for a fight for Joshua (26-3, 23 KOs) in November or December.

This is an important piece of news, and from here, we can track the progress of the negotiation. Hopefully, Wilder's camp will respond promptly and not waste time in ensuring that this significant fight will take place. What AJ's promoter is attempting to convey is their desire for an immediate response. If they can't secure an answer within that timeline, they will proceed with their business plans but with a different opponent.

If I'm not mistaken, Eddie Hearn has been talking about the Wider fight, even before Joshua was supposed to fight Whyte/Helenius. And that fight is treated as a tune up fight for Joshua and it just so happen that Helenuis got knockout and so Joshua's confidence is back at all time high.

And with that win, they are on track to have a fight with Wilder and hopefully it can happen this year or early next year.

Doubt that the Wilder fight with Ruiz is going to push as he might go directly to fight AJ in the Middle East for more money.

Here is the update of supposedly, Ruiz vs Wilder mandated fight by the WBC, and it's not happening, hehehe,

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The WBC has abandoned its prior attempt to determine a mandatory challenger for the heavyweight title.

A previously ordered Deontay Wilder-Andy Ruiz title eliminator is no longer required, the sanctioning body ruled Friday. The fight never had a chance to take place given recent events, including ongoing efforts for Wilder to next face fellow former heavyweight titlist Anthony Joshua likely early next year in the Middle East.

https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-abandons-wilder-ruiz-final-eliminator-revisit-mandatory-process-november--177049

So it just shows how corrupt WBC and the Sulaiman, Grin

they initial ordered a fight between the Ruiz and Wilder and then later change their decision not to and allow Joshua (as he win against Helenius) to fight Wilder in the Middle East.

And for sure, as Eddie Hearn secures big money from Middle East, the Sulaiman's has a cut on it. Grin

Ok as expected, the Andy Ruiz fight is cancelled already, its sucks that we will not see that fight between two great punchers. But again, as everyone is shouting here in this forum, boxing is a business, and with the involvement of Saudi Arabia as prime venue for boxing in the last couple of years + the huge money that Eddie Hearns' Saudi backers is willing to give him, no wonder WBC and the father and son Sulaiman is willing to do it.

So moving forward we will just have to wait for the official announcement from Hearn or whoever Wilder is represented in this negotiating table. And it's going to be a big fight as it also involves Usyk vs Fury's name here.

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But since a rematch inside the octagon has surfaced, people are now attracted to it and that is one of the few reasons why we are still talking about this as it is more interesting rather than a boxing fight, and Jake Paul will have a chance to bounce back and redeem himself from the recent loss he had. I mean who wouldn't want a redemption fight?

There's a good chance Diaz can beat Paul because Diaz is a wrestler and MMA fight is shorter than boxing, so he don't need to have really good stamina. If Paul didn't learn how to escape from ground fight, Diaz can easily subs him, MMA fight is more technical as you can win in many ways.

The rematch should be happen ASAP before Diaz become more older.

He sure does need this to happen fast.
But Nate could sometimes be dragged by what is happening in the octagon, if a fighter is boxing him up, he will do the same and prove that his chin is tough. How many times have we seen that happen?
There's a chance he might not maximize his skills in wrestling or his submission skills just to prove that he could take down anyone with his fist or just endure their punches until the decision happens.
All Jake Paul needed is a takedown defense and then he could keep the battle in the standing position until Nate makes a wrong move. I mean, he did knock him down from their last fight so there's a chance it could happen again. But yeah, stamina might not be a big deal here for Nate, it will be Jake who should train to battle at 5 minutes per round.

That's the problem with Nate Diaz and I don't know if it's his pride or not because it seems to me that he is more inclined to do what his opponent is doing, when in fact he can showcase his skills and finish the fight as fast as he can so that he can rest afterwards with a victory on his side. But sometimes that is not the case.

Well hopefully this time he will be different, he just came from an embarrassing loss that almost made him like a clown fighting in the boxing ring where he doesn't have any abilities at all, even his defense can be neutralized easily by some uprising boxers in the industry. He now has a chance to redeem his name and take one last paycheck with him and a win before he steps down again, but for good.

What I think of this fight is that either of them can win, for me Nate Diaz can do better, I am not saying that Jake Pual is the most monstrous among them, according to what I have seen of both fighters is that anyone can win of the two, only that for now the one with the best training is the one who will obviously win, in this case the resistance is the one that can be the reason that influences both well, because if both in their training lean towards resistance it is Very good, if each fighter works their speed+strength it can determine the fight, but of course the quality of the blows also influences a lot here and that they can be quite efficient in it.

If you put it that way, you truly have a point because both of them stands a chance to win on their fight but the fact is, Jake Paul have more chances because it's his territory while Nate is the hostile one inside a boxing ring because it's not his comfortable zone and unfortunately, he doesn't have any skills to defeat a boxer. Let's face that and move on already, it's already evident just like what we've seen on their fight.

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Quote from: Jating on August 19, 2023, 05:26:39 AM

^^ There is really a borderline between trash talking and pushing it to like personal, like what Danis is doing here and obviously he is trolling Paul to the max. So just imagine what will happen if this two see each other on stage for a face-off, there will be tension for sure.

As said, he keeps on trolling with Logan. It is for sure that this is intentional and he's trying to mock him to make him emotional. There is gonna be a drama at least to make the sales for the tickets of the match of these two.

Quote from: Jating on August 19, 2023, 05:26:39 AM

So moving forward, it's a psychological battle between the two and obviously Danis has the upper hand. Let's see how Paul will react, it seems the best way for him is to have a ceased and desists order, but its a bitch move.

He knows how to handle something like this and I think that he'll just put the anger on his fist and make Danis knock down. That's what he probably is thinking right now and won't stop in training to prove himself that he just trolled the wrong person. Usually, we're seeing this type of trash-talk to make the match noisier and for them to have the people curious on what's the beef between the two so it will generate sales of tickets.

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Joshua’s Promoter Giving Wilder Negotiations 2 To 3 Weeks Or AJ Will Fight In Nov Or Dec

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By Jake Tiernan: Eddie Hearn has put a 2 to 3-week timeframe for when he wants the Deontay Wilder fight wrapped up for Anthony Joshua’s mega-fight in January in Saudi Arabia. Hearn says if it’s not completed within two or three weeks, he could start looking for a fight for Joshua (26-3, 23 KOs) in November or December.

This is an important piece of news, and from here, we can track the progress of the negotiation. Hopefully, Wilder's camp will respond promptly and not waste time in ensuring that this significant fight will take place. What AJ's promoter is attempting to convey is their desire for an immediate response. If they can't secure an answer within that timeline, they will proceed with their business plans but with a different opponent.

If I'm not mistaken, Eddie Hearn has been talking about the Wider fight, even before Joshua was supposed to fight Whyte/Helenius. And that fight is treated as a tune up fight for Joshua and it just so happen that Helenuis got knockout and so Joshua's confidence is back at all time high.

And with that win, they are on track to have a fight with Wilder and hopefully it can happen this year or early next year.

Doubt that the Wilder fight with Ruiz is going to push as he might go directly to fight AJ in the Middle East for more money.

Here is the update of supposedly, Ruiz vs Wilder mandated fight by the WBC, and it's not happening, hehehe,

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The WBC has abandoned its prior attempt to determine a mandatory challenger for the heavyweight title.

A previously ordered Deontay Wilder-Andy Ruiz title eliminator is no longer required, the sanctioning body ruled Friday. The fight never had a chance to take place given recent events, including ongoing efforts for Wilder to next face fellow former heavyweight titlist Anthony Joshua likely early next year in the Middle East.

https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-abandons-wilder-ruiz-final-eliminator-revisit-mandatory-process-november--177049

So it just shows how corrupt WBC and the Sulaiman, Grin

they initial ordered a fight between the Ruiz and Wilder and then later change their decision not to and allow Joshua (as he win against Helenius) to fight Wilder in the Middle East.

And for sure, as Eddie Hearn secures big money from Middle East, the Sulaiman's has a cut on it. Grin

No surprised though, it's obvious that it was just a front for WBC to order this fight. I mean if everything didn't go well with the AJ fight, then they might as well go with the Ruiz fight. But now that AJ won, and so WBC step aside their own ruling and let Eddie Hearn do the rest for the negotiations between AJ and Wilder to fight in the Middle East wherein there is a lot of money to be made and definitely, it will have to trickle down to Sulaiman and his corrupt WBC body to have a slice on that big pie before allowing Wilder to fight.

WBC knows that there are a lot of money to be made between a Joshua and Wilder fight, so this is their first option before Ruiz. And it make sense at all specially for boxing fans as we have been waiting for this fight to happen since 2017-2018 when both are still undefeated.

Nevertheless it's not late to see it, and for sure boxing fans wants it even it is too late in their career.

And as mentioned, the huge money that is going to be made here put Sulaiman on notice and to put on-hold the Andy Ruiz fight with Deontay Wilder.

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^^ There is really a borderline between trash talking and pushing it to like personal, like what Danis is doing here and obviously he is trolling Paul to the max. So just imagine what will happen if this two see each other on stage for a face-off, there will be tension for sure.

So moving forward, it's a psychological battle between the two and obviously Danis has the upper hand. Let's see how Paul will react, it seems the best way for him is to have a ceased and desists order, but its a bitch move.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 18, 2023, 11:49:19 PM

Does anyone follow Dillon Danis on social media? He is going to fight Logan Paul in boxing on October 14 as part of the event of KSI vs Tommy Fury.

I don't know him but it seems that they're going to bag money again.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 18, 2023, 11:49:19 PM

In any case, this is very funny. Dillon has been sharing pictures of Logan's fiancee with more than 10 different men and one of them was the fiancee dating Riffraff who appears to be not a very good human hehehe. Logan's response was a filing of a cease and desist order to stop the trolling. It appears everything is not good in paradise.

Whether he is fighting or not, Dillion Danis has never stopped flocking to social media, talking trash to and trolling countless people. So naturally, he has amped up these antics since the bout between he and Logan Paul was announced, posting pictures of Paul's girlfriend with various celebrities and ex's in order to mess with his foe.

Apparently, these trolling posts have led to Danis being contacted by Paul and his team, with them apparently telling the Bellator fighter to cease and desist the trolling, apparently even contacting authorities, otherwise Paul will withdraw from the contest.

Source https://www.mmanews.com/news/dillon-danis-cease-and-desist-trolling-logan-paul

If these are for real, I guess they're doing it as timely because of the upcoming fight. If this is what Dillon has been doing, he's having fun and trying to mental breakdown people like Logan or whomever he's going to be in his way. What a coincidence because I've just watched a vide of Logan that he just went to his girlfriend's crib with a surprise.

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Joshua’s Promoter Giving Wilder Negotiations 2 To 3 Weeks Or AJ Will Fight In Nov Or Dec

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By Jake Tiernan: Eddie Hearn has put a 2 to 3-week timeframe for when he wants the Deontay Wilder fight wrapped up for Anthony Joshua’s mega-fight in January in Saudi Arabia. Hearn says if it’s not completed within two or three weeks, he could start looking for a fight for Joshua (26-3, 23 KOs) in November or December.

This is an important piece of news, and from here, we can track the progress of the negotiation. Hopefully, Wilder's camp will respond promptly and not waste time in ensuring that this significant fight will take place. What AJ's promoter is attempting to convey is their desire for an immediate response. If they can't secure an answer within that timeline, they will proceed with their business plans but with a different opponent.

If I'm not mistaken, Eddie Hearn has been talking about the Wider fight, even before Joshua was supposed to fight Whyte/Helenius. And that fight is treated as a tune up fight for Joshua and it just so happen that Helenuis got knockout and so Joshua's confidence is back at all time high.

And with that win, they are on track to have a fight with Wilder and hopefully it can happen this year or early next year.

Doubt that the Wilder fight with Ruiz is going to push as he might go directly to fight AJ in the Middle East for more money.

Here is the update of supposedly, Ruiz vs Wilder mandated fight by the WBC, and it's not happening, hehehe,

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The WBC has abandoned its prior attempt to determine a mandatory challenger for the heavyweight title.

A previously ordered Deontay Wilder-Andy Ruiz title eliminator is no longer required, the sanctioning body ruled Friday. The fight never had a chance to take place given recent events, including ongoing efforts for Wilder to next face fellow former heavyweight titlist Anthony Joshua likely early next year in the Middle East.

https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-abandons-wilder-ruiz-final-eliminator-revisit-mandatory-process-november--177049

So it just shows how corrupt WBC and the Sulaiman, Grin

they initial ordered a fight between the Ruiz and Wilder and then later change their decision not to and allow Joshua (as he win against Helenius) to fight Wilder in the Middle East.

And for sure, as Eddie Hearn secures big money from Middle East, the Sulaiman's has a cut on it. Grin

No surprised though, it's obvious that it was just a front for WBC to order this fight. I mean if everything didn't go well with the AJ fight, then they might as well go with the Ruiz fight. But now that AJ won, and so WBC step aside their own ruling and let Eddie Hearn do the rest for the negotiations between AJ and Wilder to fight in the Middle East wherein there is a lot of money to be made and definitely, it will have to trickle down to Sulaiman and his corrupt WBC body to have a slice on that big pie before allowing Wilder to fight.

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Joshua’s Promoter Giving Wilder Negotiations 2 To 3 Weeks Or AJ Will Fight In Nov Or Dec

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By Jake Tiernan: Eddie Hearn has put a 2 to 3-week timeframe for when he wants the Deontay Wilder fight wrapped up for Anthony Joshua’s mega-fight in January in Saudi Arabia. Hearn says if it’s not completed within two or three weeks, he could start looking for a fight for Joshua (26-3, 23 KOs) in November or December.

This is an important piece of news, and from here, we can track the progress of the negotiation. Hopefully, Wilder's camp will respond promptly and not waste time in ensuring that this significant fight will take place. What AJ's promoter is attempting to convey is their desire for an immediate response. If they can't secure an answer within that timeline, they will proceed with their business plans but with a different opponent.

If I'm not mistaken, Eddie Hearn has been talking about the Wider fight, even before Joshua was supposed to fight Whyte/Helenius. And that fight is treated as a tune up fight for Joshua and it just so happen that Helenuis got knockout and so Joshua's confidence is back at all time high.

And with that win, they are on track to have a fight with Wilder and hopefully it can happen this year or early next year.

Doubt that the Wilder fight with Ruiz is going to push as he might go directly to fight AJ in the Middle East for more money.

Exactly, he is referring to the Wilder vs AJ fight, and he wants Wilder to commit to making the fight happen within the given timeline. AJ had a solid victory against Helenius, demonstrating that he still possesses the power to knock out his opponents. It seems AJ has become more cautious now, which is a strategic move. Despite his strong punching ability, he can also be vulnerable to powerful hits.

For the moment, the best course of action for Wilder is to concentrate on his upcoming fight against AJ. It's a significant bout, and a victory against AJ would undoubtedly boost his popularity once again.

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Joshua’s Promoter Giving Wilder Negotiations 2 To 3 Weeks Or AJ Will Fight In Nov Or Dec

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By Jake Tiernan: Eddie Hearn has put a 2 to 3-week timeframe for when he wants the Deontay Wilder fight wrapped up for Anthony Joshua’s mega-fight in January in Saudi Arabia. Hearn says if it’s not completed within two or three weeks, he could start looking for a fight for Joshua (26-3, 23 KOs) in November or December.

This is an important piece of news, and from here, we can track the progress of the negotiation. Hopefully, Wilder's camp will respond promptly and not waste time in ensuring that this significant fight will take place. What AJ's promoter is attempting to convey is their desire for an immediate response. If they can't secure an answer within that timeline, they will proceed with their business plans but with a different opponent.

If I'm not mistaken, Eddie Hearn has been talking about the Wider fight, even before Joshua was supposed to fight Whyte/Helenius. And that fight is treated as a tune up fight for Joshua and it just so happen that Helenuis got knockout and so Joshua's confidence is back at all time high.

And with that win, they are on track to have a fight with Wilder and hopefully it can happen this year or early next year.

Doubt that the Wilder fight with Ruiz is going to push as he might go directly to fight AJ in the Middle East for more money.

Here is the update of supposedly, Ruiz vs Wilder mandated fight by the WBC, and it's not happening, hehehe,

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The WBC has abandoned its prior attempt to determine a mandatory challenger for the heavyweight title.

A previously ordered Deontay Wilder-Andy Ruiz title eliminator is no longer required, the sanctioning body ruled Friday. The fight never had a chance to take place given recent events, including ongoing efforts for Wilder to next face fellow former heavyweight titlist Anthony Joshua likely early next year in the Middle East.

https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-abandons-wilder-ruiz-final-eliminator-revisit-mandatory-process-november--177049

So it just shows how corrupt WBC and the Sulaiman, Grin

they initial ordered a fight between the Ruiz and Wilder and then later change their decision not to and allow Joshua (as he win against Helenius) to fight Wilder in the Middle East.

And for sure, as Eddie Hearn secures big money from Middle East, the Sulaiman's has a cut on it. Grin

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