Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 79. (Read 32123 times)

It is indeed the biggest Nate had, bigger than what he made his entire career in MMA.
Yeah so they're gonna be protecting this kid to remain unbeaten to gain consistent and increasing profit every time Jake steps into the ring. Nate on the other hand somehow deserved that money he's got after his long career in MMA. Though he's got pretty beaten with this fight, but hands down to his will to finish the fight. The guys real tough legend. It's just funny to see him like he's holding himself trying not to release a kick. His stance is really different than a pro boxer, and that made his punches like it doesn't have enough power to shake Jake Paul up.

Yes, I've read about that as well that Nate Diaz got that much and if I'm not mistaken, I think that is the biggest paycheck that Nate received in his whole career. Some even said that even if we combine what Nate received throughout his MMA career, this is still the biggest paycheck. That just shows that Jake Paul indeed knows how to make a fight and it's not surprising why DAZN is organizing it for them as it is indeed profitable on their side as well.

That is a guaranteed $8 Million (PPV not included) and that is a very good money that Francis Ngannou can have after making a name in the UFC and now getting his career in the boxing industry, the thing is that this is not an exhibition fight that is why it is garnering many attention from the people around the world.

Just like Nate Diaz, it has been said that he got a whooping $20 Million from a fight against Jake Paul. And if this hype continues on their rematch, I would not be surprised if Jake Paul would take the deal even if it means that he will get defeated in an MMA fight.

As long as the fans are willing to buy their tickets because of what hype this brothers can bring, they will continue to do so and this is a potential another millions of dollars in the table for them and there opponents as well. That's why they can almost find fighters, whether ex-MMA or still beginning of their careers in UFC or not so famous fighters.

Because it's one of a lifetime opportunity to make a name for them and at the same time, been paid more than what they got if they are to compete in UFC. Like what Francis did to his career, Dana White is not offering him good money, then he switch and fight Tyson Fury for millions just in 1 fight alone.

I guess that's one way to see it. Well, people will surely get interested into him if he turns out to be more deadly in the MMA fight compared to the boxing fight specially after the fact that people are already expecting the opposite thing, just like how people thought that Nate doesn't have any chances to win in a boxing fight. Which is true as that did happen as well. Anyway, it will be a good thing if they will have that fight in the cage just how they talked about it but talking about chances, that will be too much to ask.

Jake Paul cannot fight all the time, even though he holds a better record than his brother. However, both have already gained popularity, making it a lucrative opportunity for promoters, given that fans would unquestionably come to watch their fights. Even if they only fight once a year, they could still earn millions of dollars. This is in contrast to many other professional boxers who begin their careers from the ground up and only become popular after proving themselves by winning championships. The Paul brothers don't require that trajectory; their exhibition fights alone generate a substantial income for them.

^^ Lol, I thought it is Jake Paul, but his younger who is going to fight. And same as what his brothers is doing, fighting another MMA artist in a stand up fight in boxing, so that they will have the advantage and most likely will win.

It's interesting that DAZN is carrying this fight, they will have to ride on the Paul brothers hype train in this exhibitions because this is business and there are a lot of money that is going to be made here.

I totally agree it is a refreshing thing to see how Jake Paul would do with the MMA fight but I will not be surprise if he would further the fight even longer, or worse cancel the fight because of an injury, if that would happen that means that Jake Paul is not ready yet to take on the big guns on the MMA rules kind of fight and MMA gloves, for me I am really interested in seeing Jake Paul in a different combat sports aside boxing because for sure you can see the bad assery of a fighter if he can fight in all combat sports that is for sure, and who knows maybe Jake Paul would love MMA after this fight,


Or they can surely go in a different MMA organization where there is more income to the fighter than with the management we all know how the UFC has done things we surely don't know if that big amount will be really given in full to the fighters, or we all know it is an event under some events, but let's see if what will happen,

Whoa! another Paul fight this time his brother Logan Paul, and against I really don't know who is his opponent but will look it up later, but for sure pretty much many will be curious with this kind of fights because we will never know if the opponent can go with an upset,

Both have good cardio if I'm not mistaken, but it seems that Navarette can really last long specially on what he shows during his last fight. He was down but not out, and then he comes back and score a victory thru knockout.

So he has a big heart and it could be a problem for Valdez as he has a long thread. But Valdez has one of the best left hook at lower weights and if it caught Navarette coming in because his defense was his face, maybe he will felt the power of Oscar and then go down.

And because Valdez is known to be a technical fighter and that is the reason why they put him as the clear favorite. Navarette is known to be a volume puncher as you have said, however, he has a unorthodox style and maybe he will be caught by Valdez later for a knockout out win.

But the fight go of over 10 rounds, pure clash of styles and there are talks that this could be a FOTY candidate if it is really that good as two Mexican warriors going at it from round 1 to finished.

^That's still far but I will be checking it out.

A title fight will happen this Saturday in Glendale, Arizona. 7 PM Eastern time.
Emanuel Navarrete versus Oscar Valdez - Title: WBO Junior Lightweight

Navarrete - 37-1-31(KO's) | 28 years old | 72" reach | Odds: 2.31
Valdez - 31-1-23 (KO's) | 32 years old | 66" reach | Odds: 1.60

I've read some analysis on why Valdez is the favorite. They say Valdez's Olympic amateur background will help a lot in this fight. But Navarrete is a volume puncher so if most of his punches will land, it will become problematic for Valdez trying to win the scorecard back.
I say it will also end in a unanimous decision or a split decision because fighters are actually good at their punching skills. Footwork and cardio might become a problem for the older fighter too. It's actually difficult to predict who will win despite the odds being far.

A boxing rematch would be possible if Jake offers more than Nate got from this fight which could happen if Jake negotiates. Bringing the fight to UFC will make Jake negotiate for the fight to happen in boxing again than in UFC. I doubt Jake will put himself in a losing situation again after Tommy humiliates him.

Meanwhile, KSI & Logan Paul will have double main event against Tom Fury and Dillion Danis this OCT 14
https://twitter.com/MF_DAZNXSeries/status/1688958441602134021

KSI vs Tom Fury
Logan vs Dillion Danis

I reckon that it is very much more interesting to see rather than watching these boxing fights that we already know who will win and who will lose. They can hype it and market it to the crowd as like the outcome is not yet sure but no MMA fighter had a successful debut in his boxing career after retiring as a professional MMA fighter, that's just fact.

But in their possible rematch, it will be a new sight to see because I think it will be the first time as well. We might know we may win but it's just too interesting how the fight will go.

Dang! They really are spoon-feeding Anthony Joshua with old fighters so his confidence will get higher but this is the 1st time these two boxers will face each other and for me, Robert Helenius can still punch so he is still a threat to Anthony Joshua as we all know Robert Helenius have faced Deontay Wilder, Dillian Whyte, so he surely got an experience in fighting bigger guns fighters,


Fulton has the right to make a rematch but yeah it is on Naoya Inoue if he wants to make it happen that fight has surely got a higher earn because these two are surely known, and well Stephen Fulton just got an alibi that he doesn't get his good performance so he is to blame in losing but for me, it is a sure clean win for Naoya Inoue but they can still get their rematch but Naoya Inoue camp is now preparing to move forward and eyeing their focus on the Filipino fighter Marlon Tapales,


For sure there are still many who wants to witness those fights because of the high earning the fight got, so for sure there are many that have watched that fight and for me, I am not a hater of this kind of event, and a great opportunity for UFC to get higher earnings and the 1 person that is surely mad about what is happening now is only Dana White because many will eventually compare the earnings of Nate Diaz now than him on the UFC,

It's pride and money, but money has a bigger weight than pride. Maybe most of the boxers nowadays want money over pride, but I know some boxers who stick with their pride even if there's a huge amount of money to be made. I will give an example: Mayweather retired undefeated. If he still wanted more money, he could have continued to fight until he lost his popularity. Another boxer is Juan Manuel Marquez. After he defeated Pacquiao, he didn't have another fight anymore, despite being offered a lot of money.


Juan Manuel Marquez’s $150m Manny Pacquiao offer riddle solved

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This did not happen.

Boxers will always find ways to win and doesn't want to lose. Obviously, there is rivalry building if they will have a rematch because the other party wanted to avenge the lost he got.

But I do agree that everything is all for the money here, yeah you can call that they have pride, but if there are huge money in the line then definitely that will be the motivation for them to fight the second time. Like what Spence wanted against Crawford, take a revenge, but this time he wanted it at 154 lbs.

For sure there are many audience for that event again all fans of Jake Paul, all fans of Nate Diaz, all non-fans that hated Jake Paul, all people that are just curious on what kind of MMA will Jake Paul should showcase, is it just boxing or a mix of wrestling, because we all know the level of wrestling Nate Diaz have, and fore sure that level of wrestling offense and defense we would likely also see in this fights, not just striking and wrestling alone, so for sure there are a lot of technical aspect when it comes to MMA so it is a little bit complicated but let's just wait on what Jake Paul would showcase,


39 years old is surely old enough to be in his prime, and yes due to father time this fight will be hard for Robert Helenius, but for sure there is a side that this fight could also be dangerous for Anthony Joshua because Robert Helenius can still punch hard and one punch is all he needs to KO Anthony Joshua, but for sure this is also a picked fight, but Robert Helenius can also pull an upset but there is just 30% possibility for it, this is just what my thought about the change,


For sure there are many that will be curious in what will Jake Paul would do with this fight this is MMA Jake Paul could likely still goes with just boxing and because it is MMA gloves that is slightly not that thick it could damage Nate Diaz with just 1 punch, we all know when a boxer don't have any gloves it is more deadly, for sure, or he could likely have mixed boxing and wrestling and Logan Paul his brother could help him with his training,

It is a fact, now things must be even better for him, what if I am about to wait is that Jake Paul's training must be much stronger, I know that in boxing things happen when the training is hard, in fact, a boxer wins a fight is in his training, in the fight he only goes to practice what he took from that training, nothing else, I see it that way, in fact several of my friends who train think the same, unless the day After the fight, the boxer has an ailment, or is sick, something like that, but it rarely happens.

Regarding this fight, anything can happen when the rematches take place, in fact that is what gives these fights their spice, I actually like that things are like this and that after the fights they are like this the floor ask for revenge and both say yes, for me that is the spirit of the sport that is worth doing.


I would also lean towards Oshua in this case, although it is quite unfortunate about the boxer who tested positive for doping, but it is very good that they were able to resolve it somehow, although I would have liked it with another boxer, not because he is old or something like that, sometimes veteran boxers have so much technique and strategies to win that they can pass over any young man, the point here is that things with little training just don't play in his favor , for It is extremely important to train early , or the only way is to train very strictly to see if you can achieve good results, but it is at great risk that you lose the fight, it is not so easy to prepare the body in a Short time.

and:

Robert Helenius = “Dangerous fight” for Anthony Joshua says Eddie Hearn






Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/08/robert-helenius-dangerous-fight-for-anthony-joshua-says-eddie-hearn/

Well things are starting to heat up here, there are many speculations, apparently they want to protect Joshua, but of course everything here Depends on the person, how good they are at resolving a fight in such a short time, that is something that is very difficult , Here if the talent that the person tempts plays a lot and the genius that I have to be able to prepare in a short time, I really admire this position because boxers always have a very peculiar way of plowing their strategies, and time here is not an ally, so they have to do something very quickly , or at Least your strategy has to be very accurate and direct to give good results.

It is, at best, a mid matchup. Helenius is old, and his last bout is against a relatively new fighter in the professional scene. His knockout against Wilder proves that he's not the type to go against the current greats in his division. Pretty sure that he'll get worked pretty easily by Anthony Joshua in their upcoming fight, given that he hasn't really had enough time to prepare for this fight due to it being short notice and him acting as a replacement. Odds will be stacked against this dude, and it's safe to say that it's not a bet that most will be willing to take unless they want to collect a few % gains on their capital.

But it's a shame because this fight or this type of fight is what boxing needs , Whenever there is a Rematch it's good to see and that the boxer gives it , that you don't have to go by the clauses because that's something that takes time They have to do a lot of paperwork, that's always something they have to talk about a lot , the best thing is to give him his revenge , but what I want is to see Inoue with the best, it doesn't matter, maybe this boxer is Getting there to the category , Everyone wants to fight him, and this is a good start for all boxers to Begin to see Inoue as the Strongest Rival.


Well, when we see that there are boxers who have so much money, even if they lose, it is something that will always exist. I have always said that despite the fact that there is so much interest in boxing, there are always very large business models that are above the sport, but who against them if they are the ones with the money? who is it? If they say no, well, no event is held, these types of things are what normally have to be taken into consideration, we are simply boxing fans, but the Amount of things that are moved to hold events is impressive In particular , I Would say that the more famous the boxer is, the more people will be attracted, if not, I think they will not achieve anything, just seeing the great event of Crawford vs. Spence, which was not the same as that of Nonito and Santiago , In this case Jake Paul has yet another event grabbing for the handle , and it is the Possible rematch, it is what I see still feasible.

Nate Diaz opens as overwhelming favorite to beat Jake Paul in potential MMA rematch




Source: https://www.mmafighting.com/2023/8/8/23822135/nate-diaz-opens-as-overwhelming-favorite-to-beat-jake-paul-in-potential-mma-rematch

Well, one of the things that I like about Jake Paul is that he is a conscientious fighter, nothing goes to his head, he knows that things are very big in fights, to reach them is difficult, if he is going to give a rematch is because he likes the sport, he understands his opponent and that's what matters, there are many fighters who when they beat their opponents don't give them a chance for a rematch , which I don't think so, but in this case it's different An example that we all saw was that of Crawford when Spence did not want him to get revenge , and the outcome after a Few Years was Evident , life teaches and hits.