Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 78. (Read 31627 times)

Well, but it's not bad, I like that, I think Casiero is putting his sentence on himself , Because if the Fight Occurs, things that I would like, well, whoever wins here will be able to continue showing off what he is, although I have seen Inoue's attitudes And he is a Very Respectful boxer, he is not Praising himself and he is really a person who is a good sportsman, I consider him almost a genius of the sport, because he has controlled each fight , I have not seen it yet a fight where Inoue sees him as bad, or out of his mind , while Casimero does, Casimero should mess with any boxer, but not with Inoue, in fact, in the way Inoue is at the moment , I'm sure he could even hit him a good Knockout to Casimero.

Well, to go from being a very good UFC fighter to boxing, I know that UFC fighters use their hands more to defend themselves, but in the specific case of being boxers, I think they should be very careful, because a boxer has more experience, it resists more blows, and the UFC blows are not the same as those of a boxer, they are stronger, faster and really one of those blows can kill anyone, only with 1, me in my personal experience With respect to the contact sports, I can say it, because it is not the same to fight hapkido and then mess with a boxer, because the boxer can give a knockout when the fighter does not expect it, to switch to boxing, I think what is indicated is to train the fighter. least 1 year, and if you have a lot of talent you can go down to 6 months but with a lot of risk, boxing really is very hard, a sport that not everyone resists.

and the fight:


Jake Paul, Nate Diaz talk rematch after Saturday fight




Source: https://sportsnaut.com/jake-paul-nate-diaz-talk-rematch-after-saturday-fight/

What I like the most about this is that the boxers will always ask for revenge, no matter how much they have been beaten, even if they are dying, they always ask for revenge, it is like that pride that does not let them do more than think about winning when they meet again. see, this is the typical behavior of any boxer, I just hope that Paul gives him the opportunity and they continue with the fights and give each other a good revenge because things can happen quickly, and it doesn't happen like that fight where Crawford was almost begging a Spence did not want to give him that fight and everything ended very badly for Spence, it is a shame for him, but they are all in different positions, today you can win, tomorrow you lose, that's boxing.

Dang! I didn't know that thanks for the info, it surely helps surely I haven't seen the news until I have seen some comments on Tapology this one


Then you confirmed with your post it was a bummer because we don't have pretty much upcoming good fights, although this is not really a good fight because Dillian Whyte is a picked fighter for Anthony Joshua so it is still a bummer for canceling the fight and Tapology not updating their post about it,

But whatever finding another boxing event that is worth the time to watch, now that Jake Paul vs Nate Diaz fight was already settled,


Surely that is just how good Jake Paul is fighting old retired MMA fighters once he steps inside the ring with a true boxer then he is minced meat I sure hope the Salt Papi vs Jake Paul fight is still in progress because I would like to see it but I am also doubting it because Jake Paul only wants to show his boxing prowess with an MMA fighter, surely Nate Diaz also amazed me as well showing his durability, cardio, and wits inside the ring against Jake Paul Nate Diaz is still the winner in the eyes of his fans, and with this fight, there is a lot of Criticism and bashing for Jake Paul for this fight it seems when he lost with real boxer he gets back to fight on MMA fighters are like a bully,

but the wrong thing that he have done inside the ring was challenging Nate Diaz in an MMA fight that will surely be his worst nightmare Nate Diaz also explained that he already lost in a match when he clinched at Jake Paul he is really ready to take on his head but as a good sportsmanship Nate Diaz continues, well pretty much a good thing he does, as Jake Paul's confidence is risen up when he won but will surely regrets this on the MMA rule fight for sure,

I guess you can say that but, in my perspective, I see a different version of him because what I think of him is that he was just there fighting in the ring to make an easy money by taking advantage of an MMA fighter who wanted to test their versions as a boxer. While there is also that chance where he is indeed training to be a bonafide boxer but he cannot achieve what he is aiming for if he cannot even defeat a real boxer.

Bringing Mike Tyson in the table for discussion is again an easy money because people will surely watch Mike Tyson, not to see if he can still fight because that is not even a question, but people will be watching him because it's nice to see Iron Mike stepping in the ring again as a boxer.

Yup, there are no high expectations about this event specially about their figures that somehow it will be comparable because majority of the people knew that the results are already clear enough even before the bell rang and as expected, it did happened where Nate was defeated and Jake Paul won and it is not that surprising anymore because Jake Paul can only defeat MMA fighters who are transitioning to the sports of boxing.
Next up is their rematch inside the cage and I seriously hope it will happen just like what was said days prior.

Nate explains he hurt his shoulder which is the reason for his sloppy performance. I was expecting him to be knocked out after that 5th round fall but he is tough to have fought standing til the end. Just a poor performance off him after going up to 200lbs while he is more confident in 155 for his UFC career.

If he is what he was back in time when he fought Conor, it probably ends in the most humiliating defeat of Jake. Yup he is old and best to retire.

The longer i see Jake Paul fight, the more I start to believe that he is actually trying to become a genuine fighter. I heard that he is doing hard work, and i also heard that he is definitely trying to be a great boxer. The reason why i did not respect him was because he was fighting retired guys.  But this was a good fight, i was a little surprised to see the fight, go like this to be honest, but it is what it is.

I think to get the respect of people, Jake Paul needs to do more. He’s not going to get peoples respect if he just fights against old guys.

I think someone asked Andrew Tate about fighting Mike Tyson. He said it perfectly. Basically he said that Mike Tyson is old right now.  And it is not going to be morally right for a 36-year-old Andrew Tate, who was a four times kickboxing champion by the way, fight against old Mike Tyson.

They find that these kinds of boxings are more way profitable than most of the UFC fights so they put some considerations to accept is despite the fact that some of their conditions are obviously known like the knockdown earlier and other dramas inside the ring. But who cares for that when you making good decent amount of money while doing it and even more high than real fights in the UFC.

For sure in this fight Jake Paul really has dug into Nate Diaz, he has so many punches that he has very dominant in this fight surely Nate Diaz is not really ready against a boxer for sure this is a different zone that he used with the MMA but for sure Boxing is a different league,


It was a big money that I have thrown and for sure there are many who bet for Jake Paul and have also thrown a huge amount of money for him, and Jake Paul was faster than Nate Diaz that Slick movement and punches that he have thrown to Nate Diaz that volume was really something for his weight class, was really something,

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Here are the result of the fight

Jake Paul VS Nate Diaz ROUND 10 - DECISION - WIN

The 1st round was pretty much at a slow pace you can see that Nate Diaz was still not into this and maybe he is looking at what technique Jake Paul could pull he is waiting to be punched in the 1st round for sure, and on the interview, he also has said that he was asleep the whole 1st round, but when it comes to the later round he wants to show off to the fans on what he can do, and on that clinch he have said that if it was on MMA rules that clutch could become a submission win for him, well this is an opener for Jake Paul that he should think twice before going to fight Nate Diaz on MMA,

I will admit that it was true boxing event atmosphere, lots of fans in the arena watching the fight live. And Nate find a way to survived the first round and I'm glad that the referee didn't stop it early as it will be a big disappointment for their fans.

But what can we say, Nate endurance is different, he is very durable. I didn't bet as well in this fight because it's hard to predict this kind of exhibitions. But it seems the Jake is really serious and tries to score a knockdown or a knockout win.

Undefeated against MMA fighters. That's the rank of Jake Paul now. But not against true boxers. 
Nate Diaz only showed his tough chin but that's it. First round he was knocked down but as an MMA fan and a Diaz fan too, I know that will only boost the morale of Nate and not the other way around.
He loves the challenge and when he is hurt, that's when he keeps on going. That is why the fight ended in a unanimous decision instead and not a KO or TKO. I am also glad that the referee knew Nate and he won't just stop the fight even if he is badly hurt.
Nate showed how strong his cardio is even against a tough opponent, it ended as a good brawl which I thought will end quickly because Nate is old. He never fails to amaze me even in the boxing ring. That might not be his best when it comes to offense but damn, having that cardio and toughness at his age must feel pretty good for him.

I'm just trying to play the devil's advocate  . But there are reports that they did get good numbers in this fight, but the reports is not yet official though, so we will have to wait.

And it was the same results, Amanda Serrano won for a lopsided victory, and she punishes Heather Hardy in 10 rounds.

Scores: 100-90, 100-90 and 99-91.

Yes right, if he really aiming to become a pro he always have that advantage over those who are trying to enter this industry, he already have a name and he can negotiate a fight with his chosen division, but same with what you said, the amount of money is far lesser unless he will hype his fight and encourage those followers and viewers to buy a ticket with his fight.

Or, if he can set his first fight against a champion or a good ranking fighter, maybe that will also bring some decent amount of profits.

With Whyte's past history of failed drug tests, Eddie Hearn should have been smarter and had a backup opponent on standby. The last time Joshua fought a replacement opponent it ended in humiliation. Maybe they will not risk the massive payday against Wilder and just remain inactive until December/January.

Maybe in the beginning and during the pandemic, it's good to see this kind of exhibitions. And really in the beginning, it was good, like Tyson vs Roy Jones. But then it was fully exploited by Floyd Mayweather and then the Paul brothers to generate millions for them and it is very effective admit it or not as they got now a company to promote their fight if I'm not mistaken.

However, now it becomes boring, and if Jake Paul wanted to be a boxer then maybe he can do it and make a pro fight. But for sure there will be less money for him and that's why he just stay in his comfort zone - exhibitions matches, easy peasy millions for them.

It is obvious this fight is created to generate money for the boxer, and promoter,  and is not created for boxing development.  Though exhibition is a good thing once in a while but having too many in a short span of time makes me look at it as boring as hell.  Though I am thinking this exhibition fight is boring, I am looking forward to see the development of Shields vs Thurman mix gender boxing fight.  I wanted to see if these thing is a scripted one (someone is pulling a string behind the scene creating a fixed results that can boost one's popularity for future marketing exploits)

I would have to agree that this fight is not even getting close to the numbers that Spence and Crawford did. It is the second biggest fight of the year, it's a professional fight. As compare to Nate Diaz vs Jake Paul who is purely for entertainment as this is just a exhibition match and most likely they are just here for the money.

And if might not end good for Diaz, going to be competitive in the first 3 rounds. But after that, Paul's will take over as per his experience in boxing. Maybe less than 500k PPV buys for me.

Not sure if you are aware that the Joshua vs Whyte fight has been cancelled already due to Dillian Whyte tested positive for some ban substance through Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA).

In any case, match room's Eddie Hearn can find a replacement fighter here so that this fight is not totally postponed as others boxers in the undercard have prepared already. And for sure we will follow the case as Whyte is going to appeal and proved that he is innocence.

Yup! For sure I will be sitting this event as well this is an obvious fight and we all know what may happen between these two fighters, for me, it also has not had good odds, sure Jake Paul will give it to Nate Diaz some fans is likely still in support for Diaz despite that this fight is pretty much obvious where it will go and Nate Diaz surely is aware of this and that he only needed the money provided when he shows himself to the fight and it is kind of a hefty money at that

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Obviously, this is the fight that I think a slightly worth watching because the other fighter is not in the MMA but likely is a boxer as well so it could also go in the other direction regarding the situation and maybe an upset, even though this is a picked fight for Anthony Joshua, and Whyte also wants a rematch,

Joshua vs. Whyte 2

DATE: Saturday 08.12.2023
TIME: 02:00 PM ET



MAIN EVENT
Anthony Joshua VS Dillian Whyte

MAIN CARD
Filip Hrgovic VS Demsey McKean
Johnny Fisher VS Harry Armstrong
Campbell Hatton VS Tom Ansell

PRELIMINARY CARD
Maisey Rose Courtney VS Gemma Ruegg
George Liddard VS Radek Roušal

Information was from Tapology: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/102916-joshua-vs-whyte-2

^^ Same here, I'll just see what will be the outcome, and I don't have any intention to bet on this fight either. Sure, the name of Nate Diaz still bring some hype because he was really a colorful individual when he was still with the UFC and had great matches.

But this is boxing, and Jake Paul has made a killing of this sports as he made a lot of money already winning fights and this will be the same case here. And I think the sports of boxing exhibitions are over, we are back the normal now. We do love to see some exhibitions, but we had some good boxing this year that we are done with this kind of fights as we are entertain with real boxers fighting each other.

I decided to sit on this fight and will just watch some highlights afterwards if I cannot make it to the fight time because, I personally have no interests in fights that got Jake Paul's name on it even if Nate Diaz's name is added, it will be a sure loss in the latter's side because this sport is not for him and he doesn't have any KO power to start with.

Nate Diaz will just be on that ring to collect his paycheck and nothing else, the one things that gets me interested is their rematch in the octagon, although it's not that sure but it is more enticing to watch rather than their first encounter.