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I think that this is how boxing has been in recent years, but a boxer should never have that thought "sometimes I win, sometimes I lose", it is the marketing of today in terms of boxing quality.  As for the rivalry between boxers for rematches, it's a classic in the sport of punches, it's not pride, it's money, it's just the idea they sell.

Boxers will always find ways to win and doesn't want to lose. Obviously, there is rivalry building if they will have a rematch because the other party wanted to avenge the lost he got.

But I do agree that everything is all for the money here, yeah you can call that they have pride, but if there are huge money in the line then definitely that will be the motivation for them to fight the second time. Like what Spence wanted against Crawford, take a revenge, but this time he wanted it at 154 lbs.

It's pride and money, but money has a bigger weight than pride. Maybe most of the boxers nowadays want money over pride, but I know some boxers who stick with their pride even if there's a huge amount of money to be made. I will give an example: Mayweather retired undefeated. If he still wanted more money, he could have continued to fight until he lost his popularity. Another boxer is Juan Manuel Marquez. After he defeated Pacquiao, he didn't have another fight anymore, despite being offered a lot of money.


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I think that this is how boxing has been in recent years, but a boxer should never have that thought "sometimes I win, sometimes I lose", it is the marketing of today in terms of boxing quality.  As for the rivalry between boxers for rematches, it's a classic in the sport of punches, it's not pride, it's money, it's just the idea they sell.

Boxers will always find ways to win and doesn't want to lose. Obviously, there is rivalry building if they will have a rematch because the other party wanted to avenge the lost he got.

But I do agree that everything is all for the money here, yeah you can call that they have pride, but if there are huge money in the line then definitely that will be the motivation for them to fight the second time. Like what Spence wanted against Crawford, take a revenge, but this time he wanted it at 154 lbs.
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For sure Nate Diaz will pulverize the crap out of Jake Paul sure when this MMA fight happened, and many fans surely want to see that, Well to see Nate Diaz beating the crap out of Jake Paul that Nate Diaz is not the dude to be a mess with because Boxing and MMA are two different sports and when it comes to MMA Nate Diaz is really good at it, and for sure Nate Diaz still has the chin, in making the fight go the distance,


For sure there are many audience for that event again all fans of Jake Paul, all fans of Nate Diaz, all non-fans that hated Jake Paul, all people that are just curious on what kind of MMA will Jake Paul should showcase, is it just boxing or a mix of wrestling, because we all know the level of wrestling Nate Diaz have, and fore sure that level of wrestling offense and defense we would likely also see in this fights, not just striking and wrestling alone, so for sure there are a lot of technical aspect when it comes to MMA so it is a little bit complicated but let's just wait on what Jake Paul would showcase,


It is, at best, a mid matchup. Helenius is old, and his last bout is against a relatively new fighter in the professional scene. His knockout against Wilder proves that he's not the type to go against the current greats in his division. Pretty sure that he'll get worked pretty easily by Anthony Joshua in their upcoming fight, given that he hasn't really had enough time to prepare for this fight due to it being short notice and him acting as a replacement. Odds will be stacked against this dude, and it's safe to say that it's not a bet that most will be willing to take unless they want to collect a few % gains on their capital.

39 years old is surely old enough to be in his prime, and yes due to father time this fight will be hard for Robert Helenius, but for sure there is a side that this fight could also be dangerous for Anthony Joshua because Robert Helenius can still punch hard and one punch is all he needs to KO Anthony Joshua, but for sure this is also a picked fight, but Robert Helenius can also pull an upset but there is just 30% possibility for it, this is just what my thought about the change,


It is a fact, now things must be even better for him, what if I am about to wait is that Jake Paul's training must be much stronger, I know that in boxing things happen when the training is hard, in fact, a boxer wins a fight is in his training, in the fight he only goes to practice what he took from that training, nothing else, I see it that way, in fact several of my friends who train think the same, unless the day After the fight, the boxer has an ailment, or is sick, something like that, but it rarely happens.

Regarding this fight, anything can happen when the rematches take place, in fact that is what gives these fights their spice, I actually like that things are like this and that after the fights they are like this the floor ask for revenge and both say yes, for me that is the spirit of the sport that is worth doing.


For sure there are many that will be curious in what will Jake Paul would do with this fight this is MMA Jake Paul could likely still goes with just boxing and because it is MMA gloves that is slightly not that thick it could damage Nate Diaz with just 1 punch, we all know when a boxer don't have any gloves it is more deadly, for sure, or he could likely have mixed boxing and wrestling and Logan Paul his brother could help him with his training,

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Well, Nate Diaz hurt Jake Paul's ego in their fight for sure that is why he wanted a rematch and now in the MMA format rules, which is Jake Paul wants to prove that he can beat Nate Diaz even in MMA,


It is a fact, now things must be even better for him, what if I am about to wait is that Jake Paul's training must be much stronger, I know that in boxing things happen when the training is hard, in fact, a boxer wins a fight is in his training, in the fight he only goes to practice what he took from that training, nothing else, I see it that way, in fact several of my friends who train think the same, unless the day After the fight, the boxer has an ailment, or is sick, something like that, but it rarely happens.

Regarding this fight, anything can happen when the rematches take place, in fact that is what gives these fights their spice, I actually like that things are like this and that after the fights they are like this the floor ask for revenge and both say yes, for me that is the spirit of the sport that is worth doing.


Not sure if you are aware that the Joshua vs Whyte fight has been cancelled already due to Dillian Whyte tested positive for some ban substance through Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA).

In any case, match room's Eddie Hearn can find a replacement fighter here so that this fight is not totally postponed as others boxers in the undercard have prepared already. And for sure we will follow the case as Whyte is going to appeal and proved that he is innocence.

Dang! I didn't know that thanks for the info, it surely helps surely I haven't seen the news until I have seen some comments on Tapology this one


Then you confirmed with your post it was a bummer because we don't have pretty much upcoming good fights, although this is not really a good fight because Dillian Whyte is a picked fighter for Anthony Joshua so it is still a bummer for canceling the fight and Tapology not updating their post about it,
The replacement for the fight will be Robert Helenius who has just some few days to prepare to fight one of the biggest names in boxing. I do not know how well he will be able to perform against Anthony Joshua since it is an impromptu arrangement, but he has fought some other people and has very good experience in the ring with top rated boxers like Deontay Wilder, Derek Chisora and others, so he can pull a surprising upset in the game fight. In his last fight, he was knocked out Deontay Wilder and can also be knocked out by Anthony Joshua if he gets hit by Anthony Joshua's fist.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/boxing/anthony-joshua-replacement-whyte-helenius-27478291



It is, at best, a mid matchup. Helenius is old, and his last bout is against a relatively new fighter in the professional scene. His knockout against Wilder proves that he's not the type to go against the current greats in his division. Pretty sure that he'll get worked pretty easily by Anthony Joshua in their upcoming fight, given that he hasn't really had enough time to prepare for this fight due to it being short notice and him acting as a replacement. Odds will be stacked against this dude, and it's safe to say that it's not a bet that most will be willing to take unless they want to collect a few % gains on their capital.

I would also lean towards Oshua in this case, although it is quite unfortunate about the boxer who tested positive for doping, but it is very good that they were able to resolve it somehow, although I would have liked it with another boxer, not because he is old or something like that, sometimes veteran boxers have so much technique and strategies to win that they can pass over any young man, the point here is that things with little training just don't play in his favor , for It is extremely important to train early , or the only way is to train very strictly to see if you can achieve good results, but it is at great risk that you lose the fight, it is not so easy to prepare the body in a Short time.

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Robert Helenius = “Dangerous fight” for Anthony Joshua says Eddie Hearn





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By Brian Webber: Eddie Hearn has concerns about the risks involved for his Matchroom flagship fighter Anthony Joshua going up against the “dangerous” slugger Robert Helenius on less than one week’s notice for their twelve round headliners this Saturday, August 12th, at the O2 Arena in London, England. Like the opponent he’s replacing, Dillian Whyte, Helenius (32-4, 21 KOs) knows this is his chance to make life-changing retirement money by knocking Joshua (25-3, 22 KOs) out on Saturday to set up a multi-million payday in the rematch.

Source: Robert Helenius = "Dangerous Fight" For Anthony Joshua Says Eddie Hearn - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/08/robert-helenius-dangerous-fight-for-anthony-joshua-says-eddie-hearn/)


Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/08/robert-helenius-dangerous-fight-for-anthony-joshua-says-eddie-hearn/

Well things are starting to heat up here, there are many speculations, apparently they want to protect Joshua, but of course everything here Depends on the person, how good they are at resolving a fight in such a short time, that is something that is very difficult , Here if the talent that the person tempts plays a lot and the genius that I have to be able to prepare in a short time, I really admire this position because boxers always have a very peculiar way of plowing their strategies, and time here is not an ally, so they have to do something very quickly , or at Least your strategy has to be very accurate and direct to give good results.



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Not sure if you are aware that the Joshua vs Whyte fight has been cancelled already due to Dillian Whyte tested positive for some ban substance through Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA).

In any case, match room's Eddie Hearn can find a replacement fighter here so that this fight is not totally postponed as others boxers in the undercard have prepared already. And for sure we will follow the case as Whyte is going to appeal and proved that he is innocence.

Dang! I didn't know that thanks for the info, it surely helps surely I haven't seen the news until I have seen some comments on Tapology this one


Then you confirmed with your post it was a bummer because we don't have pretty much upcoming good fights, although this is not really a good fight because Dillian Whyte is a picked fighter for Anthony Joshua so it is still a bummer for canceling the fight and Tapology not updating their post about it,
The replacement for the fight will be Robert Helenius who has just some few days to prepare to fight one of the biggest names in boxing. I do not know how well he will be able to perform against Anthony Joshua since it is an impromptu arrangement, but he has fought some other people and has very good experience in the ring with top rated boxers like Deontay Wilder, Derek Chisora and others, so he can pull a surprising upset in the game fight. In his last fight, he was knocked out Deontay Wilder and can also be knocked out by Anthony Joshua if he gets hit by Anthony Joshua's fist.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/boxing/anthony-joshua-replacement-whyte-helenius-27478291



It is, at best, a mid matchup. Helenius is old, and his last bout is against a relatively new fighter in the professional scene. His knockout against Wilder proves that he's not the type to go against the current greats in his division. Pretty sure that he'll get worked pretty easily by Anthony Joshua in their upcoming fight, given that he hasn't really had enough time to prepare for this fight due to it being short notice and him acting as a replacement. Odds will be stacked against this dude, and it's safe to say that it's not a bet that most will be willing to take unless they want to collect a few % gains on their capital.
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In spite of everything, what I have said is what he wants, a simple and good revenge, worthy of someone like Fulton, for now what they are going to concentrate on, I am sure it will be the fights that are coming for Inoue It is something exciting because the fighters in this category are going to want to measure themselves against him, in part they must be quite curious, because a new boxer in the category and he does these things, it is something that I like a lot , this makes the category more dynamic. I am sure that when Inoue achieves his goals here, he will continue to grow and search for a new category,  for me this Inoue is like a genius of the sport.

Fulton's reaction to this loss seems kind of poor to me. He is not giving any credit to Inoue and instead only talks about himself. If he thinks he deserves a rematch then he is delusional. He didn't win a single round. Inoue has nothing to prove and should just move on. It wasn't that Fulton had an off night as he claims, it's just that Inoue is superior in every way imaginable. Fulton should instead focus on rematching Brandon Figueroa since that was a controversial decision that deserves a second fight.

Yeah, it really haven't sink in to his skull that a Asian boy beat his ass to the ground, knock him out and he can't bounce back. Not very sportsman like coming for Stephen Fulton. And that's why a slew of fans are on a offensive on him, even his own fans saying that he should move on because they know he can bounce back but at least give credit where credit is due, that is he lost to Inoue.

Now, moving forward for Inoue, he is looking for Tapales, and at a very young age, he is setting a record that might not be duplicated. To become a 4 belt champion in 2 division. And who knows where he is going to stop. Maybe at 126 lbs, he can still continue and dominant as if it is still the bantamweight division.

Well, this is something very good, because if things happen with Tapales, it wouldn't be bad, although Fulton is not very happy, he said that things didn't work out for him, but he is worthy of a boxer who is going to ask for revenge, Although before Pedri has a rematch, they have to do a training from another world so that he can be at the level of Inoue, if Tapales is at the true level for Inoue, let it happen, because otherwise there is no point in organizing a fight so that it is very easy for Inoue, Inoue is a boxer who must already fight with the most famous and must show why he changed categories, and this is undoubtedly what will silence many who do not believe in the Japanese.

Here is something that may be relevant to Inoue:

Here is something that may be relevant to Inoue:



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Five weight classes in, and Naoya Inoue hasn’t found a single fighter that can push him to his physical limits. (photo by Ryan Hafey)

After taking care of business in the bantamweight division, Inoue (25-0, 22 KOs) looked around despondently. There was simply nothing more to prove. Becoming an undisputed world champion was a fun journey but after placing a checkmark next to that goal, the 30-year-old Japanese star needed something new to conquer.

Stephen Fulton became the perfect target. He was a well known name, had an undefeated record, was as skillful as they come, and most importantly, held both the WBC and WBO super bantamweight titles.

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-get-destroyed-by-gervonta-davis-says-assistant-trainer--176636



Well even the same things can go in a very focused direction that they can make Inpue fight with Davis, I don't know, but I think it would be a very interesting fight, however I could say that things with this boxer could turn out in the best way, Personally, I think that Inoue is on another level, despite the fact that he is testing this category, he has a great level as a boxer and can do things very well, be it with Davis or with whomever, I am curious that fights of the same type can take place. Japanese with several of the most famous boxers in this category, I understand that Davis's promoters say these things to provoke a good fight, maybe now everyone wants to fight Inoue, but it is up to the Japanese to accept the challenges.

Personally, boxers should not say so many things about Inoue, he has earned respect for many things he has done, so far he has not done well, he has not lost to anyone, boxers in this category should respect a little more the trajectory of this boxer.

Steph Fulton can pursue a rematch, he does have the right for it if he wishes so but that is if Inoue's camp will still be interested on him because he doesn't have anything left to offer now and for the latter, it's already a closed chapter and they are now approaching to their new journey without Fulton's name being involved.
Unifying all the belts in super bantam is now their main goal and after that, it is said that Inoue will have a few mandatory title defense before he again moves to the next division.

Anyway, about Tank Davis, he's good and I'll give him that. A battle against Naoya Inoue will be a perfect sight to see because they are both powerful and a KO artisan but they are just too far away with each other now. Furthermore, I don't even expect that Davis will pave a way and will meet Inoue at 130 pounds. It's a good fight but I don't think we can witness that soon.
But it's a shame because this fight or this type of fight is what boxing needs , Whenever there is a Rematch it's good to see and that the boxer gives it , that you don't have to go by the clauses because that's something that takes time They have to do a lot of paperwork, that's always something they have to talk about a lot , the best thing is to give him his revenge , but what I want is to see Inoue with the best, it doesn't matter, maybe this boxer is Getting there to the category , Everyone wants to fight him, and this is a good start for all boxers to Begin to see Inoue as the Strongest Rival.


There's not much to see in the first place Grin Just two good actors fooling the crowd while collecting their paychecks at the end of the event. Sadly, that figure you mentioned is just too high from what did Nate Diaz got from that fight because in this article, it was said that Nate was just given a guaranteed $500k (PPV not included) while Jake Paul brought home $2 Million. On the bright side, that is 150k more from Nate's last fight against Tony Ferguson in the UFC as he was just given $350k at that time.

Not bad at all, just a single no sparring and you'll get $500k and with that easy payout they are bringing hypes for possible rematch, and if that will materialize another addition to their paychecks, I'm not a hater but we all know that there's nothing in this fight though there are fans who loves to see their idols fighting the Paul's bros', that huge numbers of followers are bringing more millions for them, oh well, just another collection day for those performers and hopefully live viewers and PPV are also did enjoy the performances.

Well, when we see that there are boxers who have so much money, even if they lose, it is something that will always exist. I have always said that despite the fact that there is so much interest in boxing, there are always very large business models that are above the sport, but who against them if they are the ones with the money? who is it? If they say no, well, no event is held, these types of things are what normally have to be taken into consideration, we are simply boxing fans, but the Amount of things that are moved to hold events is impressive In particular , I Would say that the more famous the boxer is, the more people will be attracted, if not, I think they will not achieve anything, just seeing the great event of Crawford vs. Spence, which was not the same as that of Nonito and Santiago , In this case Jake Paul has yet another event grabbing for the handle , and it is the Possible rematch, it is what I see still feasible.

Nate Diaz opens as overwhelming favorite to beat Jake Paul in potential MMA rematch



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Paul defeated Nate Diaz in a 10-round boxing match on Saturday, claiming a one-sided unanimous decision over the UFC veteran at the American Airlines Center in Dallas. The bout was Diaz’s professional boxing debut, and afterward much of the conversation shifted to Paul’s challenge of a $10 million rematch back in Diaz’s stomping grounds of MMA.

Paul is now 7-1 as a professional boxer but has never competed in MMA. And if he plans to follow through on his promise, he’ll make his MMA debut as a massive underdog.

Paul opened as more than a 6-to-1 underdog (+650) in a potential MMA rematch rematch against Diaz, with the Stockton native coming in as an overwhelming 12-to-1 favorite (-1200), according to opening betting lines released Sunday by online bookmaker BetOnline.

For the uninitiated, that means a bettor would have to wager a whopping $1,200 sum on Diaz in order to make $100 of profit if he defeats Paul in an MMA rematch.

Source: https://www.mmafighting.com/2023/8/8/23822135/nate-diaz-opens-as-overwhelming-favorite-to-beat-jake-paul-in-potential-mma-rematch

Well, one of the things that I like about Jake Paul is that he is a conscientious fighter, nothing goes to his head, he knows that things are very big in fights, to reach them is difficult, if he is going to give a rematch is because he likes the sport, he understands his opponent and that's what matters, there are many fighters who when they beat their opponents don't give them a chance for a rematch , which I don't think so, but in this case it's different An example that we all saw was that of Crawford when Spence did not want him to get revenge , and the outcome after a Few Years was Evident , life teaches and hits.
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Not sure if you are aware that the Joshua vs Whyte fight has been cancelled already due to Dillian Whyte tested positive for some ban substance through Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA).

In any case, match room's Eddie Hearn can find a replacement fighter here so that this fight is not totally postponed as others boxers in the undercard have prepared already. And for sure we will follow the case as Whyte is going to appeal and proved that he is innocence.

Dang! I didn't know that thanks for the info, it surely helps surely I haven't seen the news until I have seen some comments on Tapology this one


Then you confirmed with your post it was a bummer because we don't have pretty much upcoming good fights, although this is not really a good fight because Dillian Whyte is a picked fighter for Anthony Joshua so it is still a bummer for canceling the fight and Tapology not updating their post about it,
The replacement for the fight will be Robert Helenius who has just some few days to prepare to fight one of the biggest names in boxing. I do not know how well he will be able to perform against Anthony Joshua since it is an impromptu arrangement, but he has fought some other people and has very good experience in the ring with top rated boxers like Deontay Wilder, Derek Chisora and others, so he can pull a surprising upset in the game fight. In his last fight, he was knocked out Deontay Wilder and can also be knocked out by Anthony Joshua if he gets hit by Anthony Joshua's fist.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/boxing/anthony-joshua-replacement-whyte-helenius-27478291

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I also though that when this fight was settled then there isn't any rematch but Jake Paul have said that he wants to fight Nate Diaz into MMA I was really shocked and think that this is the mistake that he have done in his career because Nate Diaz will surely Pulverize him in the MMA rules and with those small MMA gloves that they are using for sure Nate Diaz will be much comfortable and faster when they fight it's like taking of his hand cuffs when they fought in boxing that is how much constricting the gloves on boxing is,


For sure Nate Diaz will pulverize the crap out of Jake Paul sure when this MMA fight happened, and many fans surely want to see that, Well to see Nate Diaz beating the crap out of Jake Paul that Nate Diaz is not the dude to be a mess with because Boxing and MMA are two different sports and when it comes to MMA Nate Diaz is really good at it, and for sure Nate Diaz still has the chin, in making the fight go the distance,


Well not cool for me to see legends getting beaten by upcoming fighters that they could've easily beaten in their primes or in Nate's case in his preferred sport. I was actually thinking of betting on Paul even if I will never watch the fight but then I felt like there's a lot of pride in there for Nate to just take a dive. So I thought a possible hail mary punch could make an upset.

I don't know what's next for Jake Paul. Maybe he should accept the challenge from female boxer Claressa Shields. Cheesy I am pretty sure to watch it live if it happens. That girl will put a beating on the special child. Cheesy

Well, if that punch of Jake Paul could have a 1 punch power and because it is a Slim MMA glove they are using he could surely knock out Nate Diaz fast, so there surely has a chance for Jake Paul winning against Nate Diaz in the MMA, but I give him that, because that is a winning shot for Jake Paul because for sure he will struggle in learning and practicing wrestling and grappling for sure even his brother couldn't help him with this because Logan also lack some aspect with grappling,

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There's not much to see in the first place Grin Just two good actors fooling the crowd while collecting their paychecks at the end of the event. Sadly, that figure you mentioned is just too high from what did Nate Diaz got from that fight because in this article, it was said that Nate was just given a guaranteed $500k (PPV not included) while Jake Paul brought home $2 Million. On the bright side, that is 150k more from Nate's last fight against Tony Ferguson in the UFC as he was just given $350k at that time.

Not bad at all, just a single no sparring and you'll get $500k and with that easy payout they are bringing hypes for possible rematch, and if that will materialize another addition to their paychecks, I'm not a hater but we all know that there's nothing in this fight though there are fans who loves to see their idols fighting the Paul's bros', that huge numbers of followers are bringing more millions for them, oh well, just another collection day for those performers and hopefully live viewers and PPV are also did enjoy the performances.
Yes, that's easy money for Jake Paul and Nate Diaz. I heard some people say that Nate looks like not even training to win the fight but to survive. Still, I'm happy to hear that Nate survived. As for their purse, there are a lot of conflicting numbers given by different sites. But it's far from what they are receiving once PPV buys are all accounted for. PPV buys in boxing can earn them as much as 100% of the net income so even if the numbers are bad, Nate will receive a million. $10 million might be too far off though, it needs 500k PPV buys in order for Nate to earn that figure.


I didn't watch the fight. Pretty sure I had more fun yesterday watching Gerard Butler's action movie, Kandahar. The fight is nothing special, it's only good for the casuals who haven't seen or heard the real fights like Crawford and Inoue earlier. The undercard would've been a good show if only they picked a better live opponent. Jake Paul tried hard entering the arena riding a tank. Cheesy

But I'm just glad Nate is finally getting his well-deserved pay. I heard he is about to get paid $10 million for that event. I wish he just choke Shake Paul until he gets unconscious but I knew it won't happen as he might not get his purse. As for the rematch in MMA, I highly doubt it. It's only marketing in order to draw interest to people that there is a rematch under MMA rules. No way Paul is going to do it against an MMA legend. Maybe Paul is willing 5 years from now, at that time Nate is too inactive and old.

Actually, for me, it was really a good fight but not watching Jake Paul but for how long Nate Diaz can withstand the beating I know Nate Diaz will not win this matchup at least I have supported him to withstand the barrage of Jake Paul, for sure I want to see another Jake Paul fight and bet on what round Jake Paul retired MMA opponent can withstand the beating, it is a great bet for the boring guys that has an idea that Jake Paul will surely win this,

Well not cool for me to see legends getting beaten by upcoming fighters that they could've easily beaten in their primes or in Nate's case in his preferred sport. I was actually thinking of betting on Paul even if I will never watch the fight but then I felt like there's a lot of pride in there for Nate to just take a dive. So I thought a possible hail mary punch could make an upset.

I don't know what's next for Jake Paul. Maybe he should accept the challenge from female boxer Claressa Shields. Cheesy I am pretty sure to watch it live if it happens. That girl will put a beating on the special child. Cheesy


Meanwhile this weekend, real fights are back. A guaranteed war between multi-division champions Oscar Valdez and Emanuel Navarette on ESPN. At Showtime, former champion Emmanuel Rodriguez aims to become a champion again after losing his belt to Naoya Inoue years ago. On DAZN, the return of Anthony Joshua but the best match of the night is between Filip Hrgovic and Demsey McKean.

https://box.live/upcoming-fights-schedule/
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Not bad at all, just a single no sparring and you'll get $500k and with that easy payout they are bringing hypes for possible rematch, and if that will materialize another addition to their paychecks, I'm not a hater but we all know that there's nothing in this fight though there are fans who loves to see their idols fighting the Paul's bros', that huge numbers of followers are bringing more millions for them, oh well, just another collection day for those performers and hopefully live viewers and PPV are also did enjoy the performances.

Not just follower because there are also those haters that wants Jake Paul to lose to a MMA fighter just once, Nate Diaz is one badassery of a fighter to fight and may though that Nate Diaz will then can knockdown Jake Paul once and for all, but it really doesn't happen but yeah some of the revenue comes from sponsor that likely curious about the fight, and doesn't really know where to put their money,


It will be a regretful day for Jake Paul for challenging Nate Diaz in an MMA fight surely if he wants to continue this he needs certain help in training with the basics, maybe wrestling, and Jui Jitsu because on the stan-up he can surely use his boxing, but those kicks will be pretty much crucial and those low leg kicks, if he lost this fight his career will also going into a downtrend for sure not a career-ending but a slight down trend for him


I also though that when this fight was settled then there isn't any rematch but Jake Paul have said that he wants to fight Nate Diaz into MMA I was really shocked and think that this is the mistake that he have done in his career because Nate Diaz will surely Pulverize him in the MMA rules and with those small MMA gloves that they are using for sure Nate Diaz will be much comfortable and faster when they fight it's like taking of his hand cuffs when they fought in boxing that is how much constricting the gloves on boxing is,

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The longer i see Jake Paul fight, the more I start to believe that he is actually trying to become a genuine fighter. I heard that he is doing hard work, and i also heard that he is definitely trying to be a great boxer. The reason why i did not respect him was because he was fighting retired guys.  But this was a good fight, i was a little surprised to see the fight, go like this to be honest, but it is what it is.

I think to get the respect of people, Jake Paul needs to do more. He’s not going to get peoples respect if he just fights against old guys.

I think someone asked Andrew Tate about fighting Mike Tyson. He said it perfectly. Basically he said that Mike Tyson is old right now.  And it is not going to be morally right for a 36-year-old Andrew Tate, who was a four times kickboxing champion by the way, fight against old Mike Tyson.

in gaining more respect he needs to step up to the game well in his recent fight with Nate Diaz he announced that he now wants to challenge Nate into an MMA fight which I think is another leap toward becoming a great fighter, which is for me his going to regret later on,

For me I want him to stick with boxing if he wants some respect he needs to fight on terms and with boxing with the same level as his, well before jumping up a notch,

If in case a rematch between them will happen in the octagon, it will surely be a regret that will put a huge embarrassment to his name and to his little branding. He should know his chance because those chances are exactly the same when Nate or any MMA fighter that he fought in the past step foot in the boxing ring, or worse even lower than that boxing not only Nate can finish the fight much easier, in that sport, Jake Paul doesn't have what it takes to fight in the cage.
And if all of this is about him gaining a respect, then he is certainly seeking in the wrong place.

Or maybe for gaining attention that's why he's looking for this venue but same with how you see it, if Jake Paul will seriously
take this fight inside the cage the advantage will be on the side of Nate.

Knowing him as a fighter who really understand how things work inside the cage, it's very different scene for Paul.

Let's wait and see if there's reality from this upcoming rematch, if both will agree to set it inside the cage.
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If in case a rematch between them will happen in the octagon, it will surely be a regret that will put a huge embarrassment to his name and to his little branding. He should know his chance because those chances are exactly the same when Nate or any MMA fighter that he fought in the past step foot in the boxing ring, or worse even lower than that boxing not only Nate can finish the fight much easier, in that sport, Jake Paul doesn't have what it takes to fight in the cage.
And if all of this is about him gaining a respect, then he is certainly seeking in the wrong place.

It will be a regretful day for Jake Paul for challenging Nate Diaz in an MMA fight surely if he wants to continue this he needs certain help in training with the basics, maybe wrestling, and Jui Jitsu because on the stan-up he can surely use his boxing, but those kicks will be pretty much crucial and those low leg kicks, if he lost this fight his career will also going into a downtrend for sure not a career-ending but a slight down trend for him


I didn't watch the fight. Pretty sure I had more fun yesterday watching Gerard Butler's action movie, Kandahar. The fight is nothing special, it's only good for the casuals who haven't seen or heard the real fights like Crawford and Inoue earlier. The undercard would've been a good show if only they picked a better live opponent. Jake Paul tried hard entering the arena riding a tank. Cheesy

But I'm just glad Nate is finally getting his well-deserved pay. I heard he is about to get paid $10 million for that event. I wish he just choke Shake Paul until he gets unconscious but I knew it won't happen as he might not get his purse. As for the rematch in MMA, I highly doubt it. It's only marketing in order to draw interest to people that there is a rematch under MMA rules. No way Paul is going to do it against an MMA legend. Maybe Paul is willing 5 years from now, at that time Nate is too inactive and old.

Actually, for me, it was really a good fight but not watching Jake Paul but for how long Nate Diaz can withstand the beating I know Nate Diaz will not win this matchup at least I have supported him to withstand the barrage of Jake Paul, for sure I want to see another Jake Paul fight and bet on what round Jake Paul retired MMA opponent can withstand the beating, it is a great bet for the boring guys that has an idea that Jake Paul will surely win this,
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There's not much to see in the first place Grin Just two good actors fooling the crowd while collecting their paychecks at the end of the event. Sadly, that figure you mentioned is just too high from what did Nate Diaz got from that fight because in this article, it was said that Nate was just given a guaranteed $500k (PPV not included) while Jake Paul brought home $2 Million. On the bright side, that is 150k more from Nate's last fight against Tony Ferguson in the UFC as he was just given $350k at that time.

Not bad at all, just a single no sparring and you'll get $500k and with that easy payout they are bringing hypes for possible rematch, and if that will materialize another addition to their paychecks, I'm not a hater but we all know that there's nothing in this fight though there are fans who loves to see their idols fighting the Paul's bros', that huge numbers of followers are bringing more millions for them, oh well, just another collection day for those performers and hopefully live viewers and PPV are also did enjoy the performances.
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If in case a rematch between them will happen in the octagon, it will surely be a regret that will put a huge embarrassment to his name and to his little branding. He should know his chance because those chances are exactly the same when Nate or any MMA fighter that he fought in the past step foot in the boxing ring, or worse even lower than that boxing not only Nate can finish the fight much easier, in that sport, Jake Paul doesn't have what it takes to fight in the cage.
And if all of this is about him gaining a respect, then he is certainly seeking in the wrong place.

Did you notice after the fight well maybe I think before the fight was announced there are many criticisms that Jake Paul is returning to fighting retired MMA fighters and with that announcement he was already exposed he likely got a huge chance by just fighting retired MMA fighters. It was really a bad idea in fighting Tommy Fury and sure KSI will have a hard time with Tommy Fury aswell, this is for sure many don't want Jake Paul to return to fighting retired MMA fighters,


Now he is too much older to continue fighting, it is going to really very hard for him to continue fighting. You know it is common for every fighter, when anyone adapted to a certain weight class for a long period of fighting it is really hard for him to move up or down his weight class. This is also a prominent factor in his loss.


Nate Diaz can still fight in an exhibition match for sure the weight is really one factor for it but Nate Diaz looks huge inside the ring, so he is the one that is cutting weight here, and pretty much the biggest factor on why Nate Diaz lost is not really his age, as we can see he has finished the fight and getting it on the distance for sure he still got the fight in him, and this is boxing there are many limits for Nate Diaz and a lot of limited movement and with the gloves Diaz is really not used with the gloves but the big mistake that Jake Paul did was accepting the fight for the MMA format as Nate Diaz will surely pulverize Jake Paul with that MMA gloves and the MMA rules that Nate Diaz is certainly more familiar with, but for sure Jake Paul will surely put some additional rules here and maybe he will not show for that fight let's just wait,

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Also, the PPV numbers, could it generate more than the recent Spence vs Crawford fight?
No way mate! Let's bet. Cheesy Many casuals already understood that their idol Jake Paul is not that special after losing his first fight against a real boxer. Although they have no idea that Tommy Fury is not even a top 20, very raw and clumsy so some might believe Paul's statement that he improved and that he is a real prospect to become a world champion. So maybe this can reach 500k PPV buys.

The undercard is not that exciting either, it's a mismatch. Amanda Serrano clearly beat Heather Hardy years ago so at 41 she will lose worse than their first match. My PPV buys prediction in this event is 300k and I'm already generous with it as this could be much lower.

I would have to agree that this fight is not even getting close to the numbers that Spence and Crawford did. It is the second biggest fight of the year, it's a professional fight. As compare to Nate Diaz vs Jake Paul who is purely for entertainment as this is just a exhibition match and most likely they are just here for the money.

And if might not end good for Diaz, going to be competitive in the first 3 rounds. But after that, Paul's will take over as per his experience in boxing. Maybe less than 500k PPV buys for me.

Yup, there are no high expectations about this event specially about their figures that somehow it will be comparable because majority of the people knew that the results are already clear enough even before the bell rang and as expected, it did happened where Nate was defeated and Jake Paul won and it is not that surprising anymore because Jake Paul can only defeat MMA fighters who are transitioning to the sports of boxing.
Next up is their rematch inside the cage and I seriously hope it will happen just like what was said days prior.

I didn't watch the fight. Pretty sure I had more fun yesterday watching Gerard Butler's action movie, Kandahar. The fight is nothing special, it's only good for the casuals who haven't seen or heard the real fights like Crawford and Inoue earlier. The undercard would've been a good show if only they picked a better live opponent. Jake Paul tried hard entering the arena riding a tank. Cheesy

But I'm just glad Nate is finally getting his well-deserved pay. I heard he is about to get paid $10 million for that event. I wish he just choke Shake Paul until he gets unconscious but I knew it won't happen as he might not get his purse. As for the rematch in MMA, I highly doubt it. It's only marketing in order to draw interest to people that there is a rematch under MMA rules. No way Paul is going to do it against an MMA legend. Maybe Paul is willing 5 years from now, at that time Nate is too inactive and old.

There's not much to see in the first place Grin Just two good actors fooling the crowd while collecting their paychecks at the end of the event. Sadly, that figure you mentioned is just too high from what did Nate Diaz got from that fight because in this article, it was said that Nate was just given a guaranteed $500k (PPV not included) while Jake Paul brought home $2 Million. On the bright side, that is 150k more from Nate's last fight against Tony Ferguson in the UFC as he was just given $350k at that time.
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Nate explains he hurt his shoulder which is the reason for his sloppy performance. I was expecting him to be knocked out after that 5th round fall but he is tough to have fought standing til the end. Just a poor performance off him after going up to 200lbs while he is more confident in 155 for his UFC career.

If he is what he was back in time when he fought Conor, it probably ends in the most humiliating defeat of Jake. Yup he is old and best to retire.



Now he is too much older to continue fighting, it is going to really very hard for him to continue fighting. You know it is common for every fighter, when anyone adapted to a certain weight class for a long period of fighting it is really hard for him to move up or down his weight class. This is also a prominent factor in his loss.




I guess you can say that but, in my perspective, I see a different version of him because what I think of him is that he was just there fighting in the ring to make an easy money by taking advantage of an MMA fighter who wanted to test their versions as a boxer. While there is also that chance where he is indeed training to be a bonafide boxer but he cannot achieve what he is aiming for if he cannot even defeat a real boxer.

Bringing Mike Tyson in the table for discussion is again an easy money because people will surely watch Mike Tyson, not to see if he can still fight because that is not even a question, but people will be watching him because it's nice to see Iron Mike stepping in the ring again as a boxer.

I want to say his main target was to earn money as much as he can, and with it, he also tried to gain popularity in the boxing world. But the thing is i cant say that he has done very well to acquire popularity positively.  But you know popularity is popularity, whatever positively or partially positive. Now what I want to say is that he is beating people, he should not be able to beat. So he is certainly doing good work with his training.

But I also agree that he just cannot invite people who are not professional boxer and beat them in boxing. He should definitely try to beat a real boxer.
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But what can we say, Nate endurance is different, he is very durable. I didn't bet as well in this fight because it's hard to predict this kind of exhibitions. But it seems the Jake is really serious and tries to score a knockdown or a knockout win.
He is known for that, so I was not surprised that he could get up and not even showing a little wobbly after the knockdown.
True, Jake Paul is trying to end it but it won't work with Nate Diaz, that guy is a tough dude with a chin that is known in the UFC that cannot be broken down.  Cheesy

Surely that is just how good Jake Paul is fighting old retired MMA fighters once he steps inside the ring with a true boxer then he is minced meat I sure hope the Salt Papi vs Jake Paul fight is still in progress because I would like to see it but I am also doubting it because Jake Paul only wants to show his boxing prowess with an MMA fighter, surely Nate Diaz also amazed me as well showing his durability, cardio, and wits inside the ring against Jake Paul Nate Diaz is still the winner in the eyes of his fans, and with this fight, there is a lot of Criticism and bashing for Jake Paul for this fight it seems when he lost with real boxer he gets back to fight on MMA fighters are like a bully,
Not just criticism from boxing analysts but even the fans are not liking what he is doing. You are correct, he will receive more from anybody who loves boxing. Eventually, he will need to fight a pro boxer and a true one because his name will get old and maybe will not hit the trend anymore when he keeps on fighting MMA fighters.
Still, I am not impressed with Paul until I see him against a fighter as big as him and as trained in boxing only as him because that's when we can tell that he ain't avoiding anyone.
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Also, the PPV numbers, could it generate more than the recent Spence vs Crawford fight?
No way mate! Let's bet. Cheesy Many casuals already understood that their idol Jake Paul is not that special after losing his first fight against a real boxer. Although they have no idea that Tommy Fury is not even a top 20, very raw and clumsy so some might believe Paul's statement that he improved and that he is a real prospect to become a world champion. So maybe this can reach 500k PPV buys.

The undercard is not that exciting either, it's a mismatch. Amanda Serrano clearly beat Heather Hardy years ago so at 41 she will lose worse than their first match. My PPV buys prediction in this event is 300k and I'm already generous with it as this could be much lower.

I would have to agree that this fight is not even getting close to the numbers that Spence and Crawford did. It is the second biggest fight of the year, it's a professional fight. As compare to Nate Diaz vs Jake Paul who is purely for entertainment as this is just a exhibition match and most likely they are just here for the money.

And if might not end good for Diaz, going to be competitive in the first 3 rounds. But after that, Paul's will take over as per his experience in boxing. Maybe less than 500k PPV buys for me.

Yup, there are no high expectations about this event specially about their figures that somehow it will be comparable because majority of the people knew that the results are already clear enough even before the bell rang and as expected, it did happened where Nate was defeated and Jake Paul won and it is not that surprising anymore because Jake Paul can only defeat MMA fighters who are transitioning to the sports of boxing.
Next up is their rematch inside the cage and I seriously hope it will happen just like what was said days prior.

I didn't watch the fight. Pretty sure I had more fun yesterday watching Gerard Butler's action movie, Kandahar. The fight is nothing special, it's only good for the casuals who haven't seen or heard the real fights like Crawford and Inoue earlier. The undercard would've been a good show if only they picked a better live opponent. Jake Paul tried hard entering the arena riding a tank. Cheesy

But I'm just glad Nate is finally getting his well-deserved pay. I heard he is about to get paid $10 million for that event. I wish he just choke Shake Paul until he gets unconscious but I knew it won't happen as he might not get his purse. As for the rematch in MMA, I highly doubt it. It's only marketing in order to draw interest to people that there is a rematch under MMA rules. No way Paul is going to do it against an MMA legend. Maybe Paul is willing 5 years from now, at that time Nate is too inactive and old.
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The longer i see Jake Paul fight, the more I start to believe that he is actually trying to become a genuine fighter. I heard that he is doing hard work, and i also heard that he is definitely trying to be a great boxer. The reason why i did not respect him was because he was fighting retired guys.  But this was a good fight, i was a little surprised to see the fight, go like this to be honest, but it is what it is.

I think to get the respect of people, Jake Paul needs to do more. He’s not going to get peoples respect if he just fights against old guys.

I think someone asked Andrew Tate about fighting Mike Tyson. He said it perfectly. Basically he said that Mike Tyson is old right now.  And it is not going to be morally right for a 36-year-old Andrew Tate, who was a four times kickboxing champion by the way, fight against old Mike Tyson.

in gaining more respect he needs to step up to the game well in his recent fight with Nate Diaz he announced that he now wants to challenge Nate into an MMA fight which I think is another leap toward becoming a great fighter, which is for me his going to regret later on,

For me I want him to stick with boxing if he wants some respect he needs to fight on terms and with boxing with the same level as his, well before jumping up a notch,

If in case a rematch between them will happen in the octagon, it will surely be a regret that will put a huge embarrassment to his name and to his little branding. He should know his chance because those chances are exactly the same when Nate or any MMA fighter that he fought in the past step foot in the boxing ring, or worse even lower than that boxing not only Nate can finish the fight much easier, in that sport, Jake Paul doesn't have what it takes to fight in the cage.
And if all of this is about him gaining a respect, then he is certainly seeking in the wrong place.
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They find that these kinds of boxings are more way profitable than most of the UFC fights so they put some considerations to accept is despite the fact that some of their conditions are obviously known like the knockdown earlier and other dramas inside the ring. But who cares for that when you making good decent amount of money while doing it and even more high than real fights in the UFC.

They actually did and in fact, the MMA retired fighters are fighting boxers that could make tons of money by making those 1-time fight and are curious enough onlookers that want to see an exquisite fight will surely hype it, while retiring boxers also retired and then find themselves fighting in an exhibition match finding it more profitable and safe for them, is surely what they want and maybe that is why Teofimo Lopez wants to retire early is so he can take on a fight as a retired boxer in fighting the greats before him in an exhibition match-up to gain a decent amount of money in not risking critical injury aswell,


The longer i see Jake Paul fight, the more I start to believe that he is actually trying to become a genuine fighter. I heard that he is doing hard work, and i also heard that he is definitely trying to be a great boxer. The reason why i did not respect him was because he was fighting retired guys.  But this was a good fight, i was a little surprised to see the fight, go like this to be honest, but it is what it is.

I think to get the respect of people, Jake Paul needs to do more. He’s not going to get peoples respect if he just fights against old guys.

I think someone asked Andrew Tate about fighting Mike Tyson. He said it perfectly. Basically he said that Mike Tyson is old right now.  And it is not going to be morally right for a 36-year-old Andrew Tate, who was a four times kickboxing champion by the way, fight against old Mike Tyson.

in gaining more respect he needs to step up to the game well in his recent fight with Nate Diaz he announced that he now wants to challenge Nate into an MMA fight which I think is another leap toward becoming a great fighter, which is for me his going to regret later on,

For me I want him to stick with boxing if he wants some respect he needs to fight on terms and with boxing with the same level as his, well before jumping up a notch,


What I like the most about this is that the boxers will always ask for revenge, no matter how much they have been beaten, even if they are dying, they always ask for revenge, it is like that pride that does not let them do more than think about winning when they meet again. see, this is the typical behavior of any boxer, I just hope that Paul gives him the opportunity and they continue with the fights and give each other a good revenge because things can happen quickly, and it doesn't happen like that fight where Crawford was almost begging a Spence did not want to give him that fight and everything ended very badly for Spence, it is a shame for him, but they are all in different positions, today you can win, tomorrow you lose, that's boxing.

Well, Nate Diaz hurt Jake Paul's ego in their fight for sure that is why he wanted a rematch and now in the MMA format rules, which is Jake Paul wants to prove that he can beat Nate Diaz even in MMA,
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