Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 75. (Read 31638 times)

Nate Diaz doesn't seem to face any issues, whether it's in boxing or UFC, because regardless of the outcome, he still stands to earn a substantial amount of money. The real challenge lies with Jake Paul, given that he has a reputation to safeguard. A loss could significantly impact his future in boxing. Therefore, it's in his best interest to continue winning, especially since he's regarded as a superstar in the world of boxing exhibitions, unlike Nate Diaz.

Regarding the rumored $20 million figure, I would be hesitant to believe it without confirmation from a reliable source. Nevertheless, I'm inclined to think that both fighters still managed to earn a satisfactory amount, considering that their fight turned out to be quite entertaining.

Per report, Nate Diaz earns 20 million USD on his fight with Jake Paul, bigger that his whole earning in the UFC (some said bu t i don't if true) so this rematch will take place and it will be good if it happens in a Mix Martial Arts arena which i think Diaz could avenge his defeat on Paul. Even if the promoter offer half of what he earned on his fight with Jake Paul, I think Diaz will not hesitate to agree.

If they can find another alternative, maybe they will push for that instead of working on it with Dana, just like what you said
there's something between White and Paul.

But, maybe if money will speak out loud, for sure business will come up first before anything, I mean if the price is right and the negotiation
turn into a good deal between everyone's camps.

We might see things to happen inside MMA arena.

Usually though, if there is a call for a rematch, it's because the fans wanted to see more of the action and that they are not satisfied of the first time. So it's possible that the money will still be there for Nate or even get much higher than the first fight. And for sure as a organizer, Jake Paul knows this, and that if he wanted to more more money and to let Nate says "yes" again, he will have to match or offer him higher that the first offer. And the thing is that there are fans who are willing to buy expensive tickets and that's why Jake Paul and his company are capitalizing it eventhough we have a lot of great pro fights as of late and seems the sports is already in the normal state. And with that I guess exhibition match like this by Jake Paul will continue.

AFAIK Nate Diaz don't have any contract with UFC anymore, so there's no obligation they must fight using UFC as promotor. Jake Paul has a contract in PFL, it will be much easier to drag Diaz to join PFL since this MMA organization isn't that strict like UFC.

This is the reason why some good fighters are leaving UFC, the recent is Francis Ngannou,

I guess they will have to explore their options first before coming towards Dana White to organize their fight because we know that Jake and Dana haven't have any good relationship with each other and these two still keeps on bombing each other on the internet up until now, like recently where Dana White is frequently saying that Jake Paul haven't answered to his challenges where he should take a test to see if he's using a gear on his fights or not.

And base on his past performance as well, I mean Navarette went down against Liam. While Oscar Valdez had a dominant win in his last fight and it seems that he has recovered from the beating he got from Shakur Stevenson.

But majority of us really underestimated how good Navarette is on adjusting his game play. Or he even up it with his volume punching that didn't allow Oscar Valdez to rest and reset any game plan if he had because he just overwhelm him with punches, whether moving backward or pushing forward.

It was a clear Hyping of Eddie Hearn for saying that Robert Helenius will be dangerous against Anthony Joshua which is not the thing we have seen because Anthony Joshua destroyed Helenius with a single punch, a technical knockout from Anthony Joshua for sure Anthony Joshua is now using feints for sure it was a great fight for Anthony Joshua but it was not well received by many because they probably know that Anthony Joshua will surely win this even though the fight hasn't started yet,


Yup! It will not be going to be the same figures as their 1st fight but surely the next fight is MMA, so it does not have the same revenue as boxing fights, but surely both fighters agreed that they will have another fight, and this time for sure Dana White wants to produce and handle the fight between Jake Paul And Nate Diaz, but surely they don't really want anyone to help them manage an MMA fight, but maybe there will be a different combat sports to help this settle an MMA fight,

That same figure might not be that likely anymore because people already know what would happen in that fight and it is already expected as well that it will be a short fight because we know that Nate will dominate Jake Paul in a way that he will not expect it. But a $2 Million fight for Nate on their rematch will be a disrespect, Jake Paul is not that kind of fool who will give him that figure as a guaranteed money because if it weren't because of Nate, those figures are not likely.

Yeah, same here, I check some of the predictions and majority of them thinks that Oscar Valdez will win and even says that he will win by knockout. So I decided to pull the trigger and put Oscar to win in the last rounds, but it was the exact opposite.

Although initially with the physical advantage of Navarette, he could win this fight easy. But I didn't listen to my guts. In any case, no regrets, the better man win here. He uses all the advantage he got and smothered Valdez with his volumes.

@YuginKadoya It's done. The underdog won.
https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/emanuel-navarrete-vs-oscar-valdez-live-updates-results-and-highlights/14r94zamg5wky1eimh43xo1462
A volume punch fighter, I should've expected that. But I was too stiff to believe that Valdez could win this one and being the favorite added fuel to it and so I lost my bet.
Navarrete still owns his crown and I doubt someone could just strip it from him. Those long-reach hands are the key for him to win this fight. With him in control in the middle of the ring, there's no way the judges will turn on him, it is too obvious that he won it.
What I expected was a strategy from the Valdez camp to avoid those volume punches but I think they lacked on that field.

Results for the Anthony Joshua VS Robert Helenius

Joshua vs Helenius

MAIN EVENT
Anthony Joshua vs Robert Helenius - Anthony Joshua won with a KO/TKO in the 7th Round

CO-MAIN EVENT
Derek Chisora vs Gerald Washington - Derek Chisora won with a Decision

MAIN CARD
Filip Hrgovic vs Demsey McKean - Filip Hrgovic won with a KO/TKO in the last Rounds
Johnny Fisher vs Harry Armstrong - Johnny Fisher won with a KO/TKO in the 7th Round

PRELIMINARY CARD
Campbell Hatton vs Tom Ansell - Campbell Hatton won with a Decision
George Liddard vs Radek Roušal - George Liddard won with a Decision
Brandon Scott vs Louis Norman - Brandon Scott won with a Decision
Maisey Rose Courtney vs Gemma Ruegg - Maisey Rose Courtney won with a Decision

Information was from Tapology: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/102916-joshua-vs-whyte-2

It looks like Eddie Hearn is really Hyping and manipulating the fight by saying that Robert Helenius is a dangerous opponent for Anthony Joshua, for sure he is saying something like this to just hype the fight but the funny thing is if he is not really hyping the fight then he doesn't know what he is saying and it is clear that the Netizens already know what will be the result of this fight but surely Robert Helenius is the only one that has confirms as a replacement for this fight but surely maybe there is a much good one instead of Helenius but surely Robert Helenius surely needs money for him as a replacement,

Surely Robert Helenius is no match for Anthony Joshua, in this fight, you can see the technicality in Joshua's movements in conditioning Helenius where the jab will go and trapping him and pressuring Helenius in the ropes for that feint switching his punches on Robert Helenius Face or Body, surely a very bright Anthony Joshua in this event, he didn't do anything crazy this time and he is very solid towards the fight, and it was really reassuring that he's really going to win this fight for sure,

Well that is something that cannot be denied, Jake Paul is very loved, he is a player who is a fighter who can always do whatever he wants, however I am one of those who thinks that when a fighter like him against Nate, he is not up to the task. , just imagine that Nate can beat him with the MMA relations, how could he do after? I am not saying that they will stop following or supporting him, but he would be losing many things, the word, his integrity as a good fighter, apart from having many things that he can take advantage of, he can promote any fight faster than any camp, or any sponsor Apart from the fact that he is a fighter who does not fight with just anyone, I have seen that he is very Selective.


Daniel Cormier casts doubt on Jake Paul’s MMA potential following Diaz fight: ‘Nate will submit him





Source: https://www.lowkickmma.com/daniel-cormier-doubt-jake-paul-mma/

Things when it comes to this fight can get very hot , I couldn't say less , because he is a very Controversial fighter , but these things can make this fighter a little more "choppy" with what they can say about him, at least things when they are being done to generate a good show all these Comments are those that are said so that things heat up and this group can be more Intense, of course things are very Decisive here , the bettors , the fans manage to be and being in a unique Emotion mode , this is what we have to see what an event as epic as this achieves.

Indeed, and without those believers and those haters those fights that he made will not be profitable and for sure he won't be able to continue making that kind of hype in each money making fight that he's offering, more fights means more paycheck whatever the result as long as fans are enjoying or viewers are still patronizing him, he will continue to make this venue as his cash-cow, milking everything that he can get from those who supports him in each fights that he offers.

Right now Joshua vs. Helenius fight is nearing to start, but because we all pretty much know who's going to win that fight, or maybe win that fight, here is another event surely some will be interested in, now this is the full event

Navarrete vs. Valdez

Saturday 08.12.2023 at 10:00 PM ET

Promotion: Top Rank
Venue: Desert Diamond Arena
Location: Glendale, Arizona, United States



MAIN EVENT
Emanuel Navarrete VS Oscar Valdez

MAIN CARD
Lindolfo Delgado VS Jair Valtierra
Richard Torrez Jr. VS Willie Jake Jr.
Javier Martinez VS Isaiah Wise
Antonio Mireles VS Dajuan Calloway
Sergio Rodriguez VS Eduardo Ayala
Emiliano Vargas VS Jorge Luis Marquez

PRELIMINARY EVENT
Ricardo Ruvalcaba VS Adrián Orbán

Information was from Tapology: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/101493-valdez-vs-navarrete
Baofeng Thread for this fight: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/boxing-oscar-valdez-vs-emmanuel-navarette-aug-12-5458739

^ Jake vs Nate with MMA rules I think will not give Nate another $20M. I could be wrong but Jake will probably negotiate with it since it's not his stage anymore.

But Nate will not say NO to this opportunity, even if it's just $2M, he will likely not give a damn but just fight. He makes a living in fighting while earning less than $100K per fight in UFC so it's definitely a go for him. He is old and will not be given another chance of a life time. I doubt an MMA org will sign him even in Bellator.

That's right! It is indeed that much for a just a single fight with either one of the Paul Brothers and that specific figure will grow more than that if you're that someone who is already famous or made a name in other industry and there is no doubt about that. But the trouble is, it will be a one time thing because people doesn't want to see anything that they already know without any doubt what will be the outcome unless if the second fight will be contested differently, like Jake Paul and Nate planning to have a rematch with an MMA rules.

Moreover, Jake Paul is taking advantage of the fact that he got a huge fan base that will always back him up and support him in his fights. It will not be this successful if he doesn't have any people/fans to start with specially in his first few fights where marketing is very crucial as that will determine if he will be a star in this industry or not. Yet his fans didn't fail him and that is why he is successful now.

He knows how to play and use Social media platforms, he will continue to show that interest knowing that there are more money to grind if in case that deal for the rematch will take place, not sure if they will going to arrange but he only thing that I can say is money will speak on it and if the pressure for the rematch will continue to hype, the chance that it will happen is nearing.

It's just a matter of how they will negotiate and how they will going to bring it out to the fans that are willing to throw their money just to see both fighters inside the cage.

And Jake really lives his life the fullest, imagine he keeps rubbing it in to those guys that bash him. And he keeps on fighting and getting millions every fight and who knows, maybe that's what keeps him motivated to continue with exhibitions fight even though there are a lot of hate on it, specially pure boxers.

Nate on the other hand, has tasted his million pay check as a fighter and maybe realised that it's not late to join and have some fun in this kind of exhibitions and willing to take a second crack.