Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 80. (Read 31627 times)

Yes, I've heard about that as well that Donaire's wife, Rachel, had a beef with the Donaire Sr. in the past or should I say still have it.

For what it's worth, hopefully there will be time that both of them will forgive each other and decides to put the past behind them as they approach the future. I know it's hard because nobody deserved to be in that position as that is literally painful and will surely take time before the wound will heal itself. I don't know what causes them to be in this situation but hopefully, they will find the peace soon.

when I read this post I went to check what the Nonito Donaire wrote on his twitter account and honestly what he wrote is very painful, because when I read it here in this thread I even thought it was a small fight between father and son, something that could be resolved, but when I went to see what the
Nonito Donaire wrote on twitter, I saw that the Nonito Donaire said that his father is training other people to defeat Nonito Donaire in order to teach a lesson to Nonito Donaire is Nonito Donaire's father Not if this is being done according to what Nonito Donaire wrote, but also his father predicted that Nonito Donaire would lose so that he would laugh at his son later, it seems to me that we are facing something very more serious

a father can get angry, disappointed, sad, get angry and fight with his son, and something that happens very often with many people, but a father will go on social media or record a video or talk bad about his own son to others people, and still rooting for his son to lose in a fight knowing that it's an important fight for his son so this is a scary novel of hate, Nonito Donaire's father is forgetting that what is on the internet is recorded forever, even in the the day he regrets it, people will remember it, so how does he intend to show respect to other family members

after he shows that he prefers to root for strangers than to side with his own son? the problem with this type of attitude is that one day most family members will hate and exclude Nonito Donaire's father from the family and even when he regrets it, future generations of his family will at some point see bad things on the internet what he did and they will hate him too

The dude just got a lose after a lose and then this, that's a lot of things for him to absorb and no one probably will remember this but her wife got also some beef with other guy, a beef not an affair.

So whatever is happening to him, I just wish him all the best and hopefully that he's able to overcome all of this. He still wants to fight and get some win before he fully retires.

We are all wishing him to get a win before he finally gets a goodbye to his pro career.

A friend already had an agreement with both Junior and Rachel to talk about it to clear things up but at the moment their busy schedules cannot meet. Of course, Senior will be interviewed as well later. It's a sensitive long story and we only hope they will reconcile once again for good.

It's hard to judge them since they both have their own sides of the story. But it all started when Junior married Rachel and the wife later took over the boxing career. She changed the team big time and fired Senior as the coach. It hurt Senior but there were also allegations about him mishandling Junior's hard-earned money. There were many times they reconciled and then relationships went sour again.

With regards to the prediction, we all knew Junior is not getting knocked out, I cannot remember him getting hurt in this division and down below. Except in the Inoue fight, of course, the guy is also a living legend. But Santiago is not a knockout artist and even Senior knew his prediction is too far off. So Junior could've laughed it off and made some fun of how bad his old dad is at making predictions. Senior had been calling many times for Junior to retire, including the Inoue rematch wherein he was worried about the health of his son.

Best case scenario is that maybe we can see a Nery vs Casimero fight this year or early next year, I know that it is not yet sure but I think that it is much better to see that kind of fight to see who is more entitled and deserving to face the undisputed champion, considering that Inoue won against Tapales.

And about that "Japanese Turtle" comment, Casimero shouldn't have done and said that because that is just too low and he might get what he deserve in a bad way. I know that he is somehow durable when it comes to receiving powerful punches but he should remember that Inoue is different.

I guess it's all about the money and the involvement of Rachel, obviously, the younger Donaire chooses to follow Rachel and then step aside his father. And so with this kind of thing, someone will really gets hurt and most likely his father didn't like that and so up to now, even though he has grand kids with Nonito Jr, he still can't get over that he was bypass. He doesn't need to wish it though as Inoue has knockout his son already.

Yeah, just unfortunate that these things happened to the Donaires. If my memory serves me right, this is the second time that they have this kind of trouble. The first, it was on the money thing where Rachel (Nonito Jr's wife) was involved but this time around i don't read any article on what causes the break-up.

What kind of father that wishes hard to his son, grudges must be so deep that he hoped Nonito Jr will be KOed by Santiago but i hope one day everything will be well for their family.

Kelvinid, It is certainly not too late. He still has a chance. But obviously he will have to win fights consistently and continue to go up through the ranks. I don’t think it is going to happen if he loses even a single fight. So of course that is not going to be an easy task for him.

Casimero will have to beat anyone that is presented in front of him. “the turtle”  is not an exception. There is a chance that the fight is going to happen between them.

Casimero has to remember that no fight at this stage is going to be easy for him.  Trash talking is good for selling fights. But that might turn out to be bad if not done correctly and if the opponent uses this as fuel.

In case that Inoue will manage to unify all the belts from this division and decide to stay, chances that we might see Casimero to come out from the picture, maybe he will have his chance to take the opportunity in facing finally and test how good the Monster is, though before that Tapales will first taste Inoue's greatness.

If ever Tapales failed, then Casimero will be the next to challenge and for sure many fans want to see this fight to happen. Casimero, once trash talk Inoue way back and if fate crosses their way, it will be an interesting matchup.

It's hard not to notice it because it's been shared to almost all social media platforms and sports outlet are getting busy again because of this issue that Nonito Donaire himself posted. It will be hard for him to digest it specially after the fact that it came from his own father whom he thought he had his 100 percent unwavering support but in reality, he hoped that his own son will be defeated in his campaign to be a champion once again and worse, will be KO'd against Santiago. That's just too unfortunate man!

I've heard about this and I'm delighted that Naoya Inoue have no plans to climb the next weight class after the undisputed fight, I know that the outcome of the fight is not yet known and that he can truly defeat Marlon Tapales because it will mean that we already underestimated him. But it's just too great to discuss about the future where Inoue will have a few more fights whilst defending his belts, and so far, from what I've read in an article, it's either John Riel Casimero or Luis Nery.

While we do believe that Casimero knows those stuff and everything and can sell himself to their camp. I just recently saw about the thing with Donaire.

It was tough and hard time again for him as it's an emotional tweet that he has posted on his twitter account.

For anyone who wants to know about it, just go ahead on his handler/account.

Consistency is going to be the key here. I don’t think any fighter needs to have a very flashy style of fighting. He just needs to have a big mouth and know how to run his mouth around to sell fights and it does not matter if his actual style of fighting is a little boring. As long as he’s consistent, he’s going to get what he deserves.

With consistency and hard work, I genuinely believe that Casimero is going to get what he is dreaming for.

Yes, we have heard so much about Casimero wanting to fight Inoue at super bantamweight. But he needs to prove himself again at this new division. So far his first 2 fights is not that impressive and I doubt that Inoue caught his attention.

But if Inoue insisted to stay in this weight, then perhaps in the future this two will have to fight. However, this monster is really very huge puncher that I doubt any of the current rank fighters has a chance on him.

According to the news, Inoue is set to have more fights in the current division before moving up. This presents an opportunity for Casimero to finally face the boxer whom he called "the turtle" and claim that he is the real beast. I know he is just trash talking, but the only way to find out who is the better boxer of the two is if they fight.

Casimero is not a top contender yet based on the ranking, but as he continues to have more fights, he will eventually become a top contender. I hope the time is not too late for him to become a mandatory challenger for Inoue.

Yeah, that's going to be it.

He has to impress the Inoue's camp for him not able to resist if ever he challenges them or give them the crave to give him the challenge for Inoue and him.

I guess that he's enjoying his stay there and that's why we might see him a little bit longer on that weight class.

Well, going to be noticed, it doesn’t matter whom it comes from. So of course the best way to get what Casimero is dreaming for and longing for is to show good performance. If he keeps winning, of course, he’s going to be noticed. And at that time he’s going to become unavoidable by Inoue’s camp. But of course, first of all, he will have to prove himself worthy of such a fight. It is obviously not going to be easy. But I honestly see this fight happening in the future.

But of course for that to happen, Inoue will have to stay in the weight class for longer.

Yeah.

I remember that he wants to take Inoue but some things just happened and it didn't happen. While it's now on the line that Tapales is going to be his next bout.

Maybe he can have his push to talk and negotiate with the Inoue camp so that he'll be given the chance to fight against him. That's what he's waiting for a long time.

Yet, it's still Inoue's camp that has the final say if they'll allow or not.

I think this is more of good news for John Riel Casimero. He now has a chance if ever Naoya Inoue's camp is not bullshitting us about staying in this weight class for a year or two.
Now, Casimero will need that big fight to put him up in the rankings again because I am sure in those two years there will be limited fights that Inoue's camp will agree with and that means only higher seeds. The worst case scenario is they will just defend the title from previous titleholders like Stephen Fulton, Murodjon Akhmadaliev, and Marlon Tapales (if ever he loses his next fight).
So this is not a walk or a jog for Casimero anymore to attain that goal that he had been dreaming of, this is a sprint for him, and the more fights he could get the better the chances that Inoue's camp will find him worthy for a challenge.
I don't know but that keep me excited on what is going to happen on this weight class and I wish it was not just Inoue's marketing statement.

Well, no doubt that Crawford's defense was really good. I think that Spence Jr. should have just been patient on that match but he's not.

That's good for Inoue if he's not rushing things. He knows what he's doing and what he's up to. He's got a good roadmap for his career and that's what he needs to follow.

Maybe a year is good enough for his stay but seems two years are quite long unless he's got a lesser fight within that span.