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Quote from: Kelvinid on June 20, 2023, 03:17:35 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on June 19, 2023, 04:41:46 PM

It Canelo's chasing greatness like Manny did during his prime or even at the start of his downfall, he should fight Benavidez and not hide on the reasons that he is a Mexican. Or fight Bivol at either weight class, but give the guy the money that he wanted because he deserves it.

He had already achieved his ultimate success and wouldn't be risking it again in a higher weight class. The loss to Bivol was a reality check that he is not as good as Manny, who can defeat champions when moving up in weight. Therefore, it's better for him to stay where he is, and I don't mind if he talks a lot, making excuses instead of admitting to himself that he isn't a pound-for-pound king.

He choose the direction to keep being practical, that loss with Bivol simply indicates that he cannot go up anymore as the competition on the upper class exploit him, the chance of winning against the defending champ is too difficult, better to stay in his current place and let the challenger to call for his name,.

If the price is right, maybe he will take that risk for Benavidez. I have a strong feeling that they are just making that excuse to keep the engagement of the fans.

When the time they feel that fans will bite the fight, the chance that they will bring it into a negotiation table and close it to earn
more money over greatness. Or can be both for the winner!

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Quote from: inthelongrun on June 20, 2023, 06:36:58 AM

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It seems that GBP and Ryan is going to be a disputed legal battle, Golden Boy Promotions Files Lawsuit Against Ryan Garcia, Lupe Valencia To Enforce Contract.

We know that this could be brewing for years now, but after Ryan lost to Tank Davis, it seems that his camp is putting the blame to everyone, even firing his training and now are looking to severe his ties with GBP and get out of his contract with Oscar.

Not siding on this one, I will just wait and wait will be the judges decision on this one. But for sure, if there are still fights in Ryan contract, he will have to finished it and then get out os GBP for sure.

Yeah, GBP submitted a lawsuit last week against Ryan Garcia. I believe the contract remains valid although the usual way to end it is by just staying inactive unless there are still many years left in the contract which might not be the case here.

Ryan Garcia is over his head, his huge social media following made him believe that his brain and skills are at the top level of boxing which is actually far from the truth. He must've been hurting after Oscar and BHop ignored his post-fight press conference after losing to Tank. I honestly don't believe the excuses of Oscar and BHop not attending the press conference but I absolutely understand it since they do not want to be seen in public as losers to their rival PBC who dictated all the terms of the fight against their wills but dumb Ryan accepted it in exchange for the huge earning potential.

I think the issue could be the people behind Ryan, and maybe putting GBP in the bad light after them, "not showing support to Ryan". But it's the post fight already, I mean they get the fight they wanted, and they agree with the rehydration clause and I don't think that Ryan should put the blame on everything as to what happen to him to his trainer and Oscar. He should man enough and go through it but it seems he just bad mouth everyone including Oscar. And for GBP, this could be Canelo case all over again and they could lose Ryan to a rival promotion like PBC or Match Room soon.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on June 20, 2023, 03:17:35 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on June 19, 2023, 04:41:46 PM

It Canelo's chasing greatness like Manny did during his prime or even at the start of his downfall, he should fight Benavidez and not hide on the reasons that he is a Mexican. Or fight Bivol at either weight class, but give the guy the money that he wanted because he deserves it.

He had already achieved his ultimate success and wouldn't be risking it again in a higher weight class. The loss to Bivol was a reality check that he is not as good as Manny, who can defeat champions when moving up in weight. Therefore, it's better for him to stay where he is, and I don't mind if he talks a lot, making excuses instead of admitting to himself that he isn't a pound-for-pound king.

I agree, but that's how greatness is measured in boxing, in my opinion. You take and fight all comers, regardless of what others think of you. That's why we wanted him to fight Bivol for a rematch or the young and upcoming Mexican in David Benavidez.

But I guess his handlers doesn't want to damage him because they've seen that maybe Canelo is losing the power and some steps and that's why they chooses a lesser opponent, and we can say that he is not on the level of Canelo.

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 19, 2023, 05:11:57 PM

It seems that GBP and Ryan is going to be a disputed legal battle, Golden Boy Promotions Files Lawsuit Against Ryan Garcia, Lupe Valencia To Enforce Contract.

We know that this could be brewing for years now, but after Ryan lost to Tank Davis, it seems that his camp is putting the blame to everyone, even firing his training and now are looking to severe his ties with GBP and get out of his contract with Oscar.

Not siding on this one, I will just wait and wait will be the judges decision on this one. But for sure, if there are still fights in Ryan contract, he will have to finished it and then get out os GBP for sure.

Yeah, GBP submitted a lawsuit last week against Ryan Garcia. I believe the contract remains valid although the usual way to end it is by just staying inactive unless there are still many years left in the contract which might not be the case here.

Ryan Garcia is over his head, his huge social media following made him believe that his brain and skills are at the top level of boxing which is actually far from the truth. He must've been hurting after Oscar and BHop ignored his post-fight press conference after losing to Tank. I honestly don't believe the excuses of Oscar and BHop not attending the press conference but I absolutely understand it since they do not want to be seen in public as losers to their rival PBC who dictated all the terms of the fight against their wills but dumb Ryan accepted it in exchange for the huge earning potential.

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Quote from: btc_angela on June 19, 2023, 04:41:46 PM

It Canelo's chasing greatness like Manny did during his prime or even at the start of his downfall, he should fight Benavidez and not hide on the reasons that he is a Mexican. Or fight Bivol at either weight class, but give the guy the money that he wanted because he deserves it.

He had already achieved his ultimate success and wouldn't be risking it again in a higher weight class. The loss to Bivol was a reality check that he is not as good as Manny, who can defeat champions when moving up in weight. Therefore, it's better for him to stay where he is, and I don't mind if he talks a lot, making excuses instead of admitting to himself that he isn't a pound-for-pound king.

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It seems that GBP and Ryan is going to be a disputed legal battle, Golden Boy Promotions Files Lawsuit Against Ryan Garcia, Lupe Valencia To Enforce Contract.

We know that this could be brewing for years now, but after Ryan lost to Tank Davis, it seems that his camp is putting the blame to everyone, even firing his training and now are looking to severe his ties with GBP and get out of his contract with Oscar.

Not siding on this one, I will just wait and wait will be the judges decision on this one. But for sure, if there are still fights in Ryan contract, he will have to finished it and then get out os GBP for sure.

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Quote from: yazher on June 19, 2023, 01:19:45 AM

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Lol it looks like Canelo like easy money plus career boost. It is really a wise move for Badou to not accept the fight since the fight is already on the lower weight limit plus the rehydration clause. It looks like the camp of Canelo wanted an easy win on this one, it is disappointing to see the Canelo's camp setting an unfair deal just to make sure their boxer win. If they are not comfortable and think that Canelo has low chance of winnings, they can just skip that boxer and look for a fighter that they can beat easily. This kind of action makes the boxing industry looks like a circus.

Obviously, they learned their lesson the hard way after Bivol beat Canelo in his very best shape, and they are now making wise decisions in order to protect his record and popularity because if he just does fight a random good contender again, he might find himself about to lose the fight again. We all know throughout the year, a boxer will expose his witness after multiple fights, and it could be high risk if they are going to accept the offer to fight Benavidez instead. They ended up looking for an easy opponent than chasing them to fight a real contender in their weight division.

I don't think that they can protect him though, if Canelo's body is giving in to Father time, then I doubt that no one can stop it. Although I like the idea of them like taking a fight that they know Canelo will win and then he will look great. But it's up to the opponent to accept Canelo's offer.

It Canelo's chasing greatness like Manny did during his prime or even at the start of his downfall, he should fight Benavidez and not hide on the reasons that he is a Mexican. Or fight Bivol at either weight class, but give the guy the money that he wanted because he deserves it.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on June 18, 2023, 09:38:51 PM

Yes, and so it also put weight on what Bivol's manager is also saying that's why they didn't accept what the offer by the Canelo's camp. And it looks like they are low balling everyone now and see who is going to bite on their offers.

So it's good that Bivol and Badou stand their grounds and not let Canelo win the psychological battle about the weights and rehydration clause and specially what should be the split between them. And I do agree that maybe they know that Canelo has a couple of fights left so why not just fight for the money as he already cemented his legacy.

A lot of experts are saying that Rehydration Clause is really too much for the body to take and sometimes it will cause brain damage to the boxer and they are not really recommending it, well it is a good stand for Bivol and Badou to not go into Canelo Alvarez terms and I think they all seen the effect of it on Ryan Garcia after his fight with Gervonta Tank Davis, it surely hurt Garcia in a sense he can not take Tank Davis punches and the damage is too much for him, I guess if Canelo Alvarez doesn't really want a fair fight he should have a fight anybody where it was easy for him, I think he is near his retirement for sure,

Quote from: danherbias07 on June 18, 2023, 11:22:46 PM

This will not be far from what happened with Ryan Garcia. A rehydration clause is not an easy task. Imagine just staying thirsty before the fight, it's not just the body that will have a problem but also mentally it could affect him.
A big disadvantage for the Badou Jack's camp if they will agree with this, almost like suicide. Grin

What kind of punches would The Ripper let go? It will not even affect Canelo in that situation.

David Benavidez. Why not? Is the Canelo camp trying to avoid him? I mean, I have seen him challenging the champ for a long time now and there's still no answer yet. I heard there's a chance Canelo will be stripped of his title if he won't fight Benavidez this time. Just take it, it's good money and I bet the pay-per-view amount will be loads of money too.

For me, I think just letting Canelo do his thing and ignoring him, is a better thing to do than going with his Rehydration Clause is just suicide, and yes Badou Jack can not take that kind of thing he might get brain damage because of it, and expert is saying that there should not be Rehydration Clause, or don't accept something like it, Ryan Garcia is just lucky for not having any problems at all or what so ever but I think he now feels the effect of it in his body and I think this might be why he change his trainer for letting him accepting this suicidal fight, against Gervonta Davis,

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Now, Canelo's camp is aiming for an easy task, a money making a fight with lesser risk instead of taking good competition
to bring more boost in his career.

So, Canelo will no longer pursue a rematch against Bivol? I thought he was willing to solidify his legacy by avenging his loss to Bivol. Perhaps he was just too emotional after losing the fight and wanted a rematch right away. However, he may have come to realize that, given Bivol's weight class, it would be difficult for him to secure a victory.

Talent-wise, Bivol is superior than Canelo for me. He has good defense that's hard to crack that even Canelo's lethal body shots won't have an effect to Bivol. A rematch at the Light heavy weight division would still yield the same result, a Canelo loss but if it is in the Super-middleweight division, there is a chance that Canelo would win but it would be very risky for him as he will defend all his belt on the guy that beats him already so i think it is unwise for them to fight Bivol for now at either LW or SMW division so best for them is to cherry pick once again hehe.

It's up to him if he can ignore what are the people is saying and ignore the money the fight could offer and bring to them, but as long as legacy is involved. He surely wanted to even out his score with Bivol, but as of this time, and as the time goes by, his chances are getting much lesser and lesser especially after what he have showed to the audience in his fight against Ryder where not everybody or majority was impressed by his performance.

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Quote from: Viscore on June 19, 2023, 05:03:12 AM

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Now, Canelo's camp is aiming for an easy task, a money making a fight with lesser risk instead of taking good competition
to bring more boost in his career.

So, Canelo will no longer pursue a rematch against Bivol? I thought he was willing to solidify his legacy by avenging his loss to Bivol. Perhaps he was just too emotional after losing the fight and wanted a rematch right away. However, he may have come to realize that, given Bivol's weight class, it would be difficult for him to secure a victory.

Talent-wise, Bivol is superior than Canelo for me. He has good defense that's hard to crack that even Canelo's lethal body shots won't have an effect to Bivol. A rematch at the Light heavy weight division would still yield the same result, a Canelo loss but if it is in the Super-middleweight division, there is a chance that Canelo would win but it would be very risky for him as he will defend all his belt on the guy that beats him already so i think it is unwise for them to fight Bivol for now at either LW or SMW division so best for them is to cherry pick once again hehe.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on June 19, 2023, 03:42:51 AM

Now, Canelo's camp is aiming for an easy task, a money making a fight with lesser risk instead of taking good competition
to bring more boost in his career.

So, Canelo will no longer pursue a rematch against Bivol? I thought he was willing to solidify his legacy by avenging his loss to Bivol. Perhaps he was just too emotional after losing the fight and wanted a rematch right away. However, he may have come to realize that, given Bivol's weight class, it would be difficult for him to secure a victory.

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Quote from: yazher on June 19, 2023, 01:19:45 AM

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Lol it looks like Canelo like easy money plus career boost. It is really a wise move for Badou to not accept the fight since the fight is already on the lower weight limit plus the rehydration clause. It looks like the camp of Canelo wanted an easy win on this one, it is disappointing to see the Canelo's camp setting an unfair deal just to make sure their boxer win. If they are not comfortable and think that Canelo has low chance of winnings, they can just skip that boxer and look for a fighter that they can beat easily. This kind of action makes the boxing industry looks like a circus.

Obviously, they learned their lesson the hard way after Bivol beat Canelo in his very best shape, and they are now making wise decisions in order to protect his record and popularity because if he just does fight a random good contender again, he might find himself about to lose the fight again. We all know throughout the year, a boxer will expose his witness after multiple fights, and it could be high risk if they are going to accept the offer to fight Benavidez instead. They ended up looking for an easy opponent than chasing them to fight a real contender in their weight division.

Good point, Bivol was able to beat him in his own strategy, thinking that by reading what Bivol will throw him makes him
able to counter and overpower his opponent.

But it's the other way around. Bivol continues surprising him by throwing solid combinations and not to allow him to find that chance.

Now, Canelo's camp is aiming for an easy task, a money making a fight with lesser risk instead of taking good competition
to bring more boost in his career.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on June 18, 2023, 03:13:14 PM

Lol it looks like Canelo like easy money plus career boost. It is really a wise move for Badou to not accept the fight since the fight is already on the lower weight limit plus the rehydration clause. It looks like the camp of Canelo wanted an easy win on this one, it is disappointing to see the Canelo's camp setting an unfair deal just to make sure their boxer win. If they are not comfortable and think that Canelo has low chance of winnings, they can just skip that boxer and look for a fighter that they can beat easily. This kind of action makes the boxing industry looks like a circus.

Obviously, they learned their lesson the hard way after Bivol beat Canelo in his very best shape, and they are now making wise decisions in order to protect his record and popularity because if he just does fight a random good contender again, he might find himself about to lose the fight again. We all know throughout the year, a boxer will expose his witness after multiple fights, and it could be high risk if they are going to accept the offer to fight Benavidez instead. They ended up looking for an easy opponent than chasing them to fight a real contender in their weight division.

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 18, 2023, 07:54:16 AM

The Badou Jack fight is not going to happen,

https://twitter.com/BadouJack/status/1670174720149291012

And so it looks like the Canelo camp is trying to weight drain Badou hehehe. Not really sure what's up with the Canelo camp, but it seems they wanted to have to have a big advantage on this fight by draining Badou and then have rehydration clause inserted.

So the only option in which the rumor that I posted is Jermall Charlo for Canelo. Grin

This will not be far from what happened with Ryan Garcia. A rehydration clause is not an easy task. Imagine just staying thirsty before the fight, it's not just the body that will have a problem but also mentally it could affect him.
A big disadvantage for the Badou Jack's camp if they will agree with this, almost like suicide. Grin

What kind of punches would The Ripper let go? It will not even affect Canelo in that situation.

David Benavidez. Why not? Is the Canelo camp trying to avoid him? I mean, I have seen him challenging the champ for a long time now and there's still no answer yet. I heard there's a chance Canelo will be stripped of his title if he won't fight Benavidez this time. Just take it, it's good money and I bet the pay-per-view amount will be loads of money too.

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The Badou Jack fight is not going to happen,

https://twitter.com/BadouJack/status/1670174720149291012

And so it looks like the Canelo camp is trying to weight drain Badou hehehe. Not really sure what's up with the Canelo camp, but it seems they wanted to have to have a big advantage on this fight by draining Badou and then have rehydration clause inserted.

So the only option in which the rumor that I posted is Jermall Charlo for Canelo. Grin

Whoa! I literally did not expect something like this. Canelo and his whole camp are trying to be ambitious by setting a fight with Badou Jack because the terms of the fight are really unreasonable. Now it's clear to me that what they are just after now is just the money because they probably know already that Canelo is not the same anymore, and perhaps he will have a hard time keeping up with boxers in the same league as him.
Now that is a very commendable move from Badou Jack for revealing this information to the public.

Lol it looks like Canelo like easy money plus career boost. It is really a wise move for Badou to not accept the fight since the fight is already on the lower weight limit plus the rehydration clause. It looks like the camp of Canelo wanted an easy win on this one, it is disappointing to see the Canelo's camp setting an unfair deal just to make sure their boxer win. If they are not comfortable and think that Canelo has low chance of winnings, they can just skip that boxer and look for a fighter that they can beat easily. This kind of action makes the boxing industry looks like a circus.

Yes, and so it also put weight on what Bivol's manager is also saying that's why they didn't accept what the offer by the Canelo's camp. And it looks like they are low balling everyone now and see who is going to bite on their offers.

So it's good that Bivol and Badou stand their grounds and not let Canelo win the psychological battle about the weights and rehydration clause and specially what should be the split between them. And I do agree that maybe they know that Canelo has a couple of fights left so why not just fight for the money as he already cemented his legacy.

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Here is another fight card that has a fellow Filipino on the fight card the main event was for the Interim WBC World Middleweight Title while the Filipino's fight was against the IBF World Super Flyweight Title, here is the boxing fight event that has 2 Filipino fighters and those fighters was Jade Bornea, and Jerwin Ancajas,

Adames vs. Williams

Date and Time: 06.24.2023 at 09:00 PM ET
Promotion: TGB Promotions
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota

MAIN EVENT
Carlos Adames vs Julian Williams

MAIN CARD
Fernando Martinez vs Jade Bornea
Erickson Lubin vs Luis Arias

PRELIMINARY CARD
Caleb Truax vs Burley Brooks
Bryant Perrella vs Jamontay Clark
Jerwin Ancajas vs Wilner Soto
Shawn McCalman vs Bo Gibbs Jr
Mickel Spencer vs Lyle McFarlane
Robert Meriwether vs Ezra Rabin

Information was all from TAPOLOGY - https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/98771-adames-vs-williams

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 18, 2023, 07:54:16 AM

The Badou Jack fight is not going to happen,

https://twitter.com/BadouJack/status/1670174720149291012

And so it looks like the Canelo camp is trying to weight drain Badou hehehe. Not really sure what's up with the Canelo camp, but it seems they wanted to have to have a big advantage on this fight by draining Badou and then have rehydration clause inserted.

So the only option in which the rumor that I posted is Jermall Charlo for Canelo. Grin

Whoa! I literally did not expect something like this. Canelo and his whole camp are trying to be ambitious by setting a fight with Badou Jack because the terms of the fight are really unreasonable. Now it's clear to me that what they are just after now is just the money because they probably know already that Canelo is not the same anymore, and perhaps he will have a hard time keeping up with boxers in the same league as him.
Now that is a very commendable move from Badou Jack for revealing this information to the public.

Lol it looks like Canelo like easy money plus career boost. It is really a wise move for Badou to not accept the fight since the fight is already on the lower weight limit plus the rehydration clause. It looks like the camp of Canelo wanted an easy win on this one, it is disappointing to see the Canelo's camp setting an unfair deal just to make sure their boxer win. If they are not comfortable and think that Canelo has low chance of winnings, they can just skip that boxer and look for a fighter that they can beat easily. This kind of action makes the boxing industry looks like a circus.

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Ok there is a rumor circulating around that Canelo's next fight won't be Bivol and not against Benavidez as well.

Again, this is just a rumor, it is said that it will be Canelo va Jermall Charlo. Jermall last fight though is 2019, so not sure why Canelo and his camp are picking a inactive fighter and not even a true 168 super middle weight boxer.

Sure Jermall is a middle champion, but he will have to go up in weight and fight Canelo at his best weight.

And it seems that Canelo is really cherry picking his fight now or someone in his team did. So let's see if this fight is going to be developed and will actually going to happen late this year. This fight though might hit Canelo's legacy as he duck Benavidez and then his rematch with Bivol.

So far, there are two things that might explain why Canelo picked Jermall Charlo instead of picking some bad boy in the same division as him or at least active.

1. They chose Charlo to keep Canelo warmed up until they can establish a negotiating position with Bivol because as of now, Bivol shows no interest in Canelo because of the terms being given to them even after upsetting Canelo in their first clash.

2. Canelo's career is in sundown already and what they are doing right now is just taking advantage of Canelo's fame while he can still sell a fight while picking a much safer boxer that will match the equation. I mean, that fight with John Ryder might be a tune-up but that also revealed Canelo's current situation and most probably revealed the likelihood if he will fight heavy named boxers.

This is weird. Because what I am hearing is that Canelo is 90% close to making a deal against WBC cruiserweight champion Badou Jack. Not an easy fight for Canelo despite Jack at 39 years old. But should Canelo lose again, he remains undisputed at 168 while he's got the chance to become a 5-division world champion if he beats Jack.

Anyways, should the rumor of Jermall-Canelo is the one to be made, I wonder if the WBC elevates Benavidez as its champion since he is the interim champ and even fought for an unnecessary eliminator.

And this is actually the dream fight Jermall is wishing for years already. He's been avoiding the real fights, including his supposed mandatory against Mungia (WBC got paid or scared to force the mandatory?), and would rather stay inactive to preserve his virgin record for the Canelo lottery.

The Badou Jack fight is not going to happen,

https://twitter.com/BadouJack/status/1670174720149291012

And so it looks like the Canelo camp is trying to weight drain Badou hehehe. Not really sure what's up with the Canelo camp, but it seems they wanted to have to have a big advantage on this fight by draining Badou and then have rehydration clause inserted.

So the only option in which the rumor that I posted is Jermall Charlo for Canelo. Grin

Whoa! I literally did not expect something like this. Canelo and his whole camp are trying to be ambitious by setting a fight with Badou Jack because the terms of the fight are really unreasonable. Now it's clear to me that what they are just after now is just the money because they probably know already that Canelo is not the same anymore, and perhaps he will have a hard time keeping up with boxers in the same league as him.
Now that is a very commendable move from Badou Jack for revealing this information to the public.

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Ok there is a rumor circulating around that Canelo's next fight won't be Bivol and not against Benavidez as well.

Again, this is just a rumor, it is said that it will be Canelo va Jermall Charlo. Jermall last fight though is 2019, so not sure why Canelo and his camp are picking a inactive fighter and not even a true 168 super middle weight boxer.

Sure Jermall is a middle champion, but he will have to go up in weight and fight Canelo at his best weight.

And it seems that Canelo is really cherry picking his fight now or someone in his team did. So let's see if this fight is going to be developed and will actually going to happen late this year. This fight though might hit Canelo's legacy as he duck Benavidez and then his rematch with Bivol.

So far, there are two things that might explain why Canelo picked Jermall Charlo instead of picking some bad boy in the same division as him or at least active.

1. They chose Charlo to keep Canelo warmed up until they can establish a negotiating position with Bivol because as of now, Bivol shows no interest in Canelo because of the terms being given to them even after upsetting Canelo in their first clash.

2. Canelo's career is in sundown already and what they are doing right now is just taking advantage of Canelo's fame while he can still sell a fight while picking a much safer boxer that will match the equation. I mean, that fight with John Ryder might be a tune-up but that also revealed Canelo's current situation and most probably revealed the likelihood if he will fight heavy named boxers.

This is weird. Because what I am hearing is that Canelo is 90% close to making a deal against WBC cruiserweight champion Badou Jack. Not an easy fight for Canelo despite Jack at 39 years old. But should Canelo lose again, he remains undisputed at 168 while he's got the chance to become a 5-division world champion if he beats Jack.

Anyways, should the rumor of Jermall-Canelo is the one to be made, I wonder if the WBC elevates Benavidez as its champion since he is the interim champ and even fought for an unnecessary eliminator.

And this is actually the dream fight Jermall is wishing for years already. He's been avoiding the real fights, including his supposed mandatory against Mungia (WBC got paid or scared to force the mandatory?), and would rather stay inactive to preserve his virgin record for the Canelo lottery.

The Badou Jack fight is not going to happen,

https://twitter.com/BadouJack/status/1670174720149291012

And so it looks like the Canelo camp is trying to weight drain Badou hehehe. Not really sure what's up with the Canelo camp, but it seems they wanted to have to have a big advantage on this fight by draining Badou and then have rehydration clause inserted.

So the only option in which the rumor that I posted is Jermall Charlo for Canelo. Grin

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As expected, Prograis won the fight against the late replacement Danielito Zorrilla, retain his WBC 140 lbs belt. However, it was just a split decision as one judge Craig Metcalfe give it to Zorrilla 114-113, Robert Tapper (118-109) and Josef Mason (117-110).

Although you can hear some boos from the fans though. I didn't watch the full fight as it didn't really interest me, just watching from time to time to see if Zorilla can pull an upset but nah, Prograis just having his time at his home town for this fight.

Just surprised that this ends in a split decision as Bookies predicted that it would be a knockout win by Prograis.

Before the fight, i browsed the odds and it's not really attractive to bet for Prograis either by ML or knockout but the "win via decision" is @4.xx, if I'm not mistaken, which is very juicy but I didn't bother to bet as I thought that this would not reach round 12 lol.

I miss this boxing fight but thank you for the update about the odds.
I forgot to check it yesterday as I was also busy with something else. Funny, I also posted here about that fight, and yet I am the one who missed it. Cheesy

So it was 4+ odds in the decision but most gamblers took the win with lesser but sure profits or a knockout which is a loss. I would've also taken that knockout bet if I was able to catch it especially if I don't see the win profitable enough like 1.20 - 1.30 only.

Split decision. Is it really that close? I mean, 2 judges think that Prograis dominated the fight while the other judge thinks it's a close one, and worst he thinks Zorrilla won scoring 113-114 for him. I also read in one article that it's an ugly fight so that makes me not want to watch the replay. Cheesy

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